There are times when science and technology does not trump politics. Everybody knows Einstein but also Hitler.
If Trump works within the system this will be but yet another presidency. This is what every American should wish for.
If he on the other hand breaks the US Republic his name would live on in infamy.
This unlikely to happen unless the rumor in intelligence circles is true, that the FSB managed to compromise him on one of his business trips to Moscow.
Once I have to link to Alex Jones for my contentions I will take this under advisory. As it is all of these things come from pretty reputable sources. I just didn't bother to put the links in, such as
At any rate, if he is a Russian asset it will come out eventually, until then the suspicion is well founded given his behaviour, and other governments will take it into account.
NATO is but a paper tiger at this point. Not that Trump voters will care, but you shattered the Western alliance. If you think this is on the level with being unable to comprehend a birth certificate, then you have bigger problems anyhow.
For a voter base that does not believe in climate science but features many who think the earth is 6000 years old, it comes quite natural to ignore these kind of pesky facts.
Give it another year and they'll tell you that Mother Theresa had nothing on Trump.
But that's merely a sideshow anyhow. Word in intelligence circles is that Trump has been compromised by the Russians. There's a high likelihood that in voting for Trump the Republicans put a Benedict Arnold into the White House.
In all likelihood they will eventually learn that he has been owned by Russia (once Putin doesn't need him any more).
I don't even feel like blaming Russia, they are just doing what's best in their national interest, after having been squeezed on the Ukraine.
Just the facts: 1) Trump had no interest in changing the GOP platform presented at the Republican convention, with one exception, he pulled all the hawkish lingo that condemned the Russian intervention in the Ukraine.
2) His second campaign manager Paul Manafort spent considerable time in the Ukraine working for the former president, and Russian asset, Viktor Yanukovych. He had to step aside when this connection became too much of an obvious liability to the Trump campaign.
3) The Russian deputy minister confirmed that they were in contact with the Trump campaign through-out the election process.
4) According to a CNN report, a Kremlin advisor admitted they coordinated with Wikileaks.
5) Trump has considerable business interests in Russia and visited the country often.
6) Trump exhibits considerable sexual appetite.
7) Russian "political culture" perfected the art of compromising politicians with embarrassing material, they even have a word for it.
8) Mother Jones reported that a retired Intelligence officer came forward, alleging that this is exactly what has been done to Trump.
And once we manage to get down to decades AC like him will ask for year by year resolution, as if this had an impact on a trend analyzed over thousands of years.
At any rate you can get better resolution by combing many different sources, and run various statistical techniques to the the robustness of the inference (it's called data science you may want to look it up).
You don't need that kind of resolution when analyzing a trend over of geological time scale. This is not about the science, it's simply nit-picking because you don't like results.
You are thoroughly mistaken in where you think my information comes from.
I am a German native speaker, and also can read French pretty well. The intelligence that Trump has been compromised has hardly filtered through MSM yet.
I put a pretty high chance on the possibility that you just put the ultimate Manchurian candidate into the White House.
You apparently paid little attention to the discussion that you jumped into.
This was about the thermal record inferred over geological time scales, before there were human temperature measurements and historic records to throw into the mix.
The problem of how to do this reliably is a scientific one and has nothing to do with values.
What you then do with the results that are handed to you (e.g. your Thatcher example) is where the values come in.
What we've seen over and over again, is a shoot the messenger approach to climate science, and your obfuscation seems to have the same goal.
The ice core samples have a typical resolution of hundred of years, sometimes a bit higher, combining with sediment analysis can narrow it down further. The data is plenty precise enough to reconstruct the thermal record.
But let's drop the pretence that this about the science.
As unfalsifiable as any inference from a geological or planetary or fossil record. Odd how this never seems to factor in unless we are dealing with climate science.
It's almost as if you don't want to know how the inference is made. Now why would that be?
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There are times when science and technology does not trump politics. Everybody knows Einstein but also Hitler.
If Trump works within the system this will be but yet another presidency. This is what every American should wish for.
If he on the other hand breaks the US Republic his name would live on in infamy.
This unlikely to happen unless the rumor in intelligence circles is true, that the FSB managed to compromise him on one of his business trips to Moscow.
If if misguided I couldn't help but affectionally admire him.
Once I have to link to Alex Jones for my contentions I will take this under advisory. As it is all of these things come from pretty reputable sources. I just didn't bother to put the links in, such as
http://www.motherjones.com/pol...
or this one
http://www.mobypicture.com/use...
At any rate, if he is a Russian asset it will come out eventually, until then the suspicion is well founded given his behaviour, and other governments will take it into account.
NATO is but a paper tiger at this point. Not that Trump voters will care, but you shattered the Western alliance. If you think this is on the level with being unable to comprehend a birth certificate, then you have bigger problems anyhow.
Hey, I like dolphins too, you insensitive clod!
How is the US supposed to pardon him, when he is wanted by the Swedes for questioning?
For a voter base that does not believe in climate science but features many who think the earth is 6000 years old, it comes quite natural to ignore these kind of pesky facts.
Give it another year and they'll tell you that Mother Theresa had nothing on Trump.
But that's merely a sideshow anyhow. Word in intelligence circles is that Trump has been compromised by the Russians. There's a high likelihood that in voting for Trump the Republicans put a Benedict Arnold into the White House.
In all likelihood they will eventually learn that he has been owned by Russia (once Putin doesn't need him any more).
I don't even feel like blaming Russia, they are just doing what's best in their national interest, after having been squeezed on the Ukraine.
Just the facts:
1) Trump had no interest in changing the GOP platform presented at the Republican convention, with one exception, he pulled all the hawkish lingo that condemned the Russian intervention in the Ukraine.
2) His second campaign manager Paul Manafort spent considerable time in the Ukraine working for the former president, and Russian asset, Viktor Yanukovych. He had to step aside when this connection became too much of an obvious liability to the Trump campaign.
3) The Russian deputy minister confirmed that they were in contact with the Trump campaign through-out the election process.
4) According to a CNN report, a Kremlin advisor admitted they coordinated with Wikileaks.
5) Trump has considerable business interests in Russia and visited the country often.
6) Trump exhibits considerable sexual appetite.
7) Russian "political culture" perfected the art of compromising politicians with embarrassing material, they even have a word for it.
8) Mother Jones reported that a retired Intelligence officer came forward, alleging that this is exactly what has been done to Trump.
Trump made for the perfect Manchurian candidate.
Trump's victory speech was a step towards healing"
Corpses don't heal.
For all the people bitching that Trump is a raciest, homophobic, bigot... well, you're not paying attention...
He only plays one on TV, but hell did the alt-right and KKK soak it up ...
At any rate that's not really the problem, that he's a Russian asset much more so.
Well, yeah if you do this on rational or natural numbers. Try it with some other finite algebraic groups and get back to me.
(P.S.: You must really think climate scientists are fucking stupid).
The greenhouse effect is really not that complicated. That's why the core of climate science is as settled as GR, or the theory of evolution.
Hasn't stopped crackpots in the latter two cases either.
You make your bed you get to lie in it.
You want to have an actual effect, convince a legislator. Bring an envelope full of money.
You win this thread.
And once we manage to get down to decades AC like him will ask for year by year resolution, as if this had an impact on a trend analyzed over thousands of years.
At any rate you can get better resolution by combing many different sources, and run various statistical techniques to the the robustness of the inference (it's called data science you may want to look it up).
http://www.realclimate.org/ind...
You don't need that kind of resolution when analyzing a trend over of geological time scale. This is not about the science, it's simply nit-picking because you don't like results.
You are thoroughly mistaken in where you think my information comes from.
I am a German native speaker, and also can read French pretty well. The intelligence that Trump has been compromised has hardly filtered through MSM yet.
I put a pretty high chance on the possibility that you just put the ultimate Manchurian candidate into the White House.
Par for the course - welcome to the Idiocracy.
Stupid rules - literally.
People with a brain.
Just when I thought the arguments can't get any more stupid.
You apparently paid little attention to the discussion that you jumped into.
This was about the thermal record inferred over geological time scales, before there were human temperature measurements and historic records to throw into the mix.
The problem of how to do this reliably is a scientific one and has nothing to do with values.
What you then do with the results that are handed to you (e.g. your Thatcher example) is where the values come in.
What we've seen over and over again, is a shoot the messenger approach to climate science, and your obfuscation seems to have the same goal.
Yep. Post-factual world view all around.
Bingo. It's pretty sad when even Saudi Arabia can see the writing on the wall sooner than our /. trolls.
lol
The ice core samples have a typical resolution of hundred of years, sometimes a bit higher, combining with sediment analysis can narrow it down further. The data is plenty precise enough to reconstruct the thermal record.
But let's drop the pretence that this about the science.
As unfalsifiable as any inference from a geological or planetary or fossil record. Odd how this never seems to factor in unless we are dealing with climate science.
It's almost as if you don't want to know how the inference is made. Now why would that be?
... when now even biologists can detect the impact of global warming on the biosphere.
I am sure if we just keep ignoring the problem, it will go away.