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Is Technology A Bigger Story Than Donald Trump? (backchannel.com)
Steven Levy writes at Backchannel that "Technology and science is a bigger story than Donald Trump," arguing that regardless of who's president, future generations "will primarily regard these times as the era during which tech changed everything."
Remember, there have been economic crashes and horrible wars throughout history. But people carrying supercomputers in their pockets -- supercomputers that change their lives hundreds of times a day -- is new and earth shattering... we are doggedly optimistic about the future, and how technology, with all its black mirrors, will make life better.
He ultimately calls the rise of tech "the story of our time" (although in a semi-related development, American researchers are now worrying about federal funding cuts). And Motherboard warns that with Canada's new push to attract foreign tech workers, "there's a very real possibility that the U.S. could face a brain drain as some of its top science and tech talent moves to greener pastures."
He ultimately calls the rise of tech "the story of our time" (although in a semi-related development, American researchers are now worrying about federal funding cuts). And Motherboard warns that with Canada's new push to attract foreign tech workers, "there's a very real possibility that the U.S. could face a brain drain as some of its top science and tech talent moves to greener pastures."
Technology is bigger in the sense that more than the US uses technology.
Mixing government and private sector tech blurs the issues in an unnatural way.
I sure hope so.
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Technology is a great enabler, but what changes society is who uses it and for what purpose.
If you had to describe the 1940s in a sentence, it probably wouldn't be "A lot of important new technologies were invented."
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
He will be a lame duck president the whole term, whether he is impeached for past crimes or not. He is already reversing course on all the rhetoric used to rile up the populist vote. Spectacle to see the Republicans crash and burn, but with Trump busy fucking Putin in the Oval office we may have a Red Dawn.
Or even biological.
Over the next 100 years or so computers will start to really think.
What would they think about us?
Why would they want us about?
Would natural selection play the same role in shaping their moral values as it has in shaping ours?
http://www.computersthink.com/
Nothing's bigger than Donald Trump. He's the biggest. And the growing season is too short to find greener pastures in Canada.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Technology changes just about everything in the economy and in society, in major ways. To say that that will make more of a difference than one President of the United States will during his 4-8 years in office is not exactly a startling prediction.
Would people be running these stories if Hillary Clinton was elected?
There are times when science and technology does not trump politics. Everybody knows Einstein but also Hitler.
If Trump works within the system this will be but yet another presidency. This is what every American should wish for.
If he on the other hand breaks the US Republic his name would live on in infamy.
This unlikely to happen unless the rumor in intelligence circles is true, that the FSB managed to compromise him on one of his business trips to Moscow.
100 years from now that phone in your pocket will be laughed at if some idiot stands up and makes the claims that the OP did.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
My experience with technology has been the complete opposite: I find it to be obnoxious, annoying, broken, buggy, sluggish, badly designed, the "AI" is worse than a joke, VR fucking sucks even today with the best hardware and software available... I don't know WTF they are talking about.
Think about it:
- Internet giving voters access to information outside the mainstream press filtering. Especially:
- Wikileaks.
- Snowden. (Driving dissatisfaction with the power structure on both sides of the asile.)
- Social media organization/recruiting.
- Jobs crash;
- H1Bs replacing white-colars in tech.
- Illegals replacing blue-collars.
- Tech replacing more white- and blue-collars.
And I could go on.
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So even though the people who elected Trump is broader, the basic tenet of isolationism and coal miners is still inherently anti-innovation. The wind mills and solar panels that are being installed in Texas and other states, and are going to be a significant part of the energy grid in the next decade, is an extensional threat to the unskilled workers who elected Trump. The semi-skilled service jobs that require an associates degree and significant computer literacy are beyond the average Trump supporter who thinks that they deserve a middle class income for doing work a computer could do more accurately.
Which further opens the path for Asia and Germany to take over the technological world. Our trains are not designed in the US, but in Germany. More of out high technology is not only going to be built, but engineered, in Asia.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
That's naive, the clear risk is his inaction. Trump is applying for Casino Hotel rights in Moscow, Putin will grant him those once he's President, and that Casino will magically be the most profitable ever, with millions of dollars being lost everyday by just a handful of grey looking men who just popped out of the nearby Kremlin.
And in exchange, Trump will hogtie NATO to block the military and give Putin a clear run at Europe and Asia.
INACTION, is enough to do the damage.
Remember Bush? Remember his CIA and NSA desperately trying to get him to sign off on a meeting with FBI? "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in the USA.... crashing hijacked planes into buildings"... Bush wouldn't even arrange the meeting that would let the FBI go arrest "Bin Laden" ( = the family that bailed out his failed Arbusto business).
Bush had conflicting business interests, and so wouldn't even organize the meeting between the CIA and FBI to go arrest the hijackers.
Trump? He's up to his neck in Russian links, he'll block any action to secure US interests against Putin.
As revolutionary, and as fondly remembered, as IBM's Hollerith computer in the 1930's.
We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
Technology is a "bigger" story than, uh, Weefinger.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Just wait until computers drive trucks, buses and Ubers, and flip burgers.
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Dear Mark Zuckerberg,
I'm writing to you with a concern of critical national importance. I hope that you will read what I've written and consider it carefully. I believe that Facebook has a moral duty to act.
I've spent the last 18 months or so participating in our political process on Facebook. I've joined Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump groups. I've attempted to argue my position with my neighbors and fellow citizens, trying to explain to them why I think Donald Trump's proposals, policies, and distortion of truth are bad for the country. But that's not what I'm writing to you about today.
I'm writing to share the depravity I witnessed and participated in – a torrent of personal attacks, of name-calling, of ad hominem, of attacking the individual instead of the argument. I was called a "fag", a "pussy" and a "libtard". I watched people who shared my position call others "baggers", "stupid fucks", "bigots", "inbred", and "fuckwits". I did it. I am ashamed. These insults don't demean a position, or idea, or way of thinking. Those can easily be discarded by people. They can be shed. They're not an identity, no matter how much identity politics wants us to believe that. I participated in it. I am culpable. You are culpable. We are culpable.
I'll refrain from discussing James Comey's misconduct or RNC obstruction. That's all been well documented. Hillary Clinton called 25% of the country "a basket of deplorables". Not their positions, not their conduct, not their statements – them. That has an impact. It causes social pain. This is a well-documented thing in human health. It exists.
Trevor Noah of the Daily Show, America's least-appreciated successor to Jon Stewart, made a critically important point in my opinion: the basket is actually the most offensive part of this. It conjures images of a portion of the nation about to be thrown away economically, a portion that has left behind, a portion of the country that – true or not – fears they have no place in human progress. That is toxic. It cannot stand in a free and open society.
I watched my fellow citizens literally hunt down pictures of peoples' children, photoshop text on to them (sorry Adobe), and use them as political ammunition in blind rage. I've watched people use Facebook's comically understaffed and unsophisticated reporting system as a means of retaliation, to get accounts pulled, to remove peoples' ability to participate at all instead of attempt to address their arguments. This is sick. This is depravity. This cannot stand.
Facebook must add tools for fact-checking positions. It must add tools to redirect people away from personal attacks, from tracking down peoples' employers, from mining through the personal lives of others in retaliation for expressing a dissenting opinion, no matter how misguided. It must stop the spread of fake news from Veles, Macedonia designed to channel our collective outrage at things that aren't even true into Google AdSense payments. It needs to stop placing news from domains like USANEWSPOLITIC24.COM on equal visual footing with the New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Oregonian. Facebook owes it to the world, it owes it to the country, and it owes it to its shareholders, who would like to see this grand experiment in social participation actually surivive long term.
Mark, you have a duty to act. Your silence is disconcerting. Please. America can learn a powerful lesson from this tragedy of an election. The whole world is watching.
Please publish this letter anonymously. Please withhold and protect my identity for a minimum of one year. I genuinely fear reprisal and retaliation. I fear for my country and I fear for my life.
David Brown
Portland, Oregon
compared to Trump's.... Canada is jealous and it shows.
... when the drained brains are already unused because they've been replaced by H1Bs and are unemployed?
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Yeh, Internet gave him:
Hacked Democrat emails
Hacked Florida Election rolls (coupled to absentee ballots filled in with the election roll data).
The Florida election contractor hacked.
The Arizona election registration hacked.
The Illinois election hack.
The California voting machine maker that was hacked.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/florida-election-hack/index.html
So yeh, technology gave him his win. Rusky tech, and by win, I mean magic swing, mostly in states that rejected help in securing their elections from hackers.
And then of course all the money he spent campaigning, comes from casino businesses overseas. So if you were a foreign leader and wanted to donate money to Trump, you just had to go lose some money in his casinos in Panama and its untraceable. Is there a foreign leader with $2 billion in money in Panama banks?
WIKILEAKS and DRUGE.
We dont need or liar billionaires for liar fuckbook facefuck faceplant the fucking liar H1B job exporting fucker Zuck the fuck.
We need FACTS and TRUTH. I listen to leaks, wikileaks, 4chan, anonymous and drudge for TRUTH.
So you can take your FUCKBOOK, and your SNOPES and your fucking god damned shit fact checking LIAR BULLSHIT sites and cram it up your fucking ass you shithead from oregon - you fuckers are trying to restart the civil war instead of accepting your loss.
And you YOU admit to supporting that FUCKING HRC? FUCK YOU. You never read the wikileaks? the emails? you fuckin liar!.
Fuck you, you want to use facebook to manipulate truth. Fuck facebook. Fuck the enemedia. Fuck the presslitutes. Fuck you and fuck hillary - you are a dirt demon minion.
I WANT TRUTH. I WANT LEAKS. I WANT WHISTLEBLOWERS.
You're a Russian plant angry we've found out about the Russian state sponsored hacking houses eh? You just started your shift right? Go troll elsewhere.
They are horribly incompetent, not thick skinned, make poor voting choices - and are out to ruin Canada.
> This unlikely to happen unless the rumor in intelligence circles is true, that the FSB managed to compromise him on one of his business trips to Moscow.
"Intelligence" circles?
It's amazing how many people are eager to start another war for oil in Syria. I mean, is it only okay if we don't call it that?
If you want to say "but they have a brutal dictator there," then why not overthrow Saudi Arabia? Oh, right, because they give us oil (and fun Isis/9-11 hijackers). Nobody cares about that last part, though, right? Gives us a great excuse to take over in the middle east and set up puppet governments.
Ever consider how amazing it is that everyone you don't like is in a conspiracy against you?
I voted against Trump, twice. I got my wife to go vote for her first time, voting against Trump. We lost. Trump will be our presodent. He has no political experience or record, so we don't know how he'll do. As Hillary Clinton said the other day:
-- ... ...
Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.
I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a president for all of our country.
This is painful, and it will be for a long time. But I want you to remember this: our campaign was never about one person - it was about building a country that we love.
Hillary Rodham Clinton
---
and they're so butt hurt they'll never be able to sit down.
Give him a chance.... https://youtu.be/ao2Q9mYq-0M
In short, I guess we'll have to get use to the non-stop posts that are designed to invoke fear, uncertainty and doubt with the word 'Trump' being spammed into as often as they can. OP isn't trying to make a point. "Trump is here and everything will fail now!!!!"
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Trump will be our presodent. He has no political experience or record,
Why do people keep saying this? He is the founder and executive of many businesses, a global real estate empire, and now a successful campaign for the preidency. When Barack Obama was elected, the only experience he had was community organizing and a few years as a junior senator. Oh, and the campaign.
Of the two, even today, who has more years experience running an organization?
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Nuclear war with Russia would have been a bigger story. We really dodged a bullet there.
Can we stop with all those irrelevant politics? Trump won, elections are over. When he starts doing something there may be topics for further discussion, but now its just a waste of time. While there may be some people that are still coping with the results, lets keep this stuff out of slashdo as its for tech stories not social studies.
Is Technology A Bigger Story Than Donald Trump?
Are all headlines placed in the form of questions click-baits?
The web of red tape and do-nothing government design is bigger than Donald Trump if I had to specifically pick one thing.
He is the founder and executive of many businesses, a global real estate empire
...which would have been double in size today had fund managers managed it? :-p
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The NSF periodically puts out reports on science funding, which you can read yourself. Or, if you want the most relevant quote:
To put a little perspective on that, we spend $40 billion a year on startup companies.
There are a few scientists who will leave the US because they get poached by governments abroad. That has happened already and would continue, no matter what we do. Our pie is the biggest, but we have a lot of people to feed. There are also scientists who will have to leave because of visa issues. That has been happening (a lot) anyway too. We've had a labor surplus in science in the US for a long time.
The world will not end if other countries are allowed to be good at science. We will not implode if the government cuts science funding. As scientists, there are plenty of structural problems we can improve during a time of change.
We rely too much on cheap academic labor. We no longer have a working system for transitioning young, high level scientists from training to independence. The government only funds about 1/3 of scientific work, but with the slow and continuing death of real commercial research, the government funds far more than it's share of these young scientists, and this puts stress on the whole system. In general, we have become bad at commercializing scientific work. From the cost to develop new pharmaceuticals, to clean energy, to nanotechnology, we have not delivered in the fields that were supposed to have application. We are now extremely bad at understanding how our work can be applied to everyday life in a non-threatening way (think GMOs...). Our professional organizations organize these calls for increased funding, but we don't address any of our other structural issues. We have an opportunity here to work on some of these things.
Who is "we"? You and your other personalities you fuckin loon?
Try the free USA - not the brainwashed goosestepping Trump-tards. See here.
As an external observator it tell that if you continue to think as only a racist madman and understimate him he will win a second election. Also its disgusting your sense of moral superiority while you do things like beat Trump supporters. Who is acting like nazis?
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=47198.0
Its not the technology per se...its the accelerating automation that will be so disruptive. Hold on to ur hats!
"the U.S. could face a brain drain as some of its top science and tech talent moves to greener pastures."
Canada being where it is, at this time of the year, shouldn't it say: "moves to whiter pastures?"
> He has no political experience or record, so we don't know how he'll do
The President Elect told us who he was right from the get-go. If the lacquered, lying sack of personality disorders that is Donald Trump has any redeeming feature, that is it. He made no attempt to hide his narcissism, his hard-on for dictators, his vision of the entire damn world as the next acquisition in his dodgy property portfolio. He was openly racist, sexist, xenophobic, and openly willing to become more so as long as it played well with the crabbed, frightened part of his base that just wants to know someone else is hurting worse. He has vowed to jail his political and personal opponents, destroy freedom of the press, deport Muslims and give his donors free rein to frack as they please so he can carry on gaslighting the world.
To say that he is owed an open mind is like saying that a bull in a china shop deserves the benefit of the doubt. He won the election legitimately, but accepting his presidency does not mean he gets to start off tabula rasa. He must be held accountable for his words. When he asked people to vote for him because "what do they have to lose?" The answer is everything. The risk is high so the vigilance must be high too.
Responding to the protests by acknowledging the fear he has created in vulnerable people would be an easy, baby-step, test of his ability to "act presidential." So far he's failed on all accounts, accusing them of being paid protestors as a way to delegitmize their concerns and then trying to paper that over with a generic compliment of their "passion."
> Of the two, even today, who has more years experience running an organization?
When Trump showed up at the whitehouse to meet with Obama, he didn't even know he would have to hire new staff for the west wing. So much for organizational experience.
During their private White House meeting on Thursday, Mr. Obama walked his successor through the duties of running the country, and Mr. Trump seemed surprised by the scope, said people familiar with the meeting. Trump aides were described by those people as unaware that the entire presidential staff working in the West Wing had to be replaced at the end of Mr. Obama’s term.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/leading-contender-for-donald-trump-s-chief-of-staff-is-rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-1479069597
Vox? Might as well be huffpo or wapo. Give me a fuckin break idiot.
How did I know Trump was going to win and you were shocked? Because you read fuckin idiot shit sites like that.
Google finds links based on terms. Try reading it faggot. Read if you are able to.
Fuck wipe. I read it. Most of it is not true. Assange said his sources arent russian and cant obviously reveal them but get this.
You realize that if wikileaks has the info there is a damn near certain probability the Russians and the Chinese have the same fucking info.
You Soros funded fuckbots are real criminals cum and we are hunting you down day by day. Being allied with soros will soon be a god damned curse hide while you can liar.
Faggot you need to read the article I actually linked to not one that fits the playbook of your spoon fed counter-claims. Read it all because you are an ignorant fucking son of a bitch.
Oh and cowardly faggot I have no problem putting a bullet through your head if you even have the balls to ever threaten me in person.
Oh, 1:1 ? In person? No, no no - not how it works. Accidents happen so often its easy to simulate them.
Faggot now you're running scared eh? You are a piece of shit retarded motherfucker, go back and hide under your fucking blanket before I say boo!
Scared? You should be. You dont know where it will come from, who it will come from, if it will come. Will be interesting to study you as you try to determine when or if something will happen.
Motherfucker you try that shit really, you'll go home in less than a pine box.
Typical protocol would be not to leave any bodily evidence at all. Bodies are somewhat difficult to disappear for the uninitiated. Which would appear to be you.
You stupid little faggot try that shit even one god damn time - you won't live to see 12.
Wow. Either you are one incredible turing test or a rather silly, frothing, seething petulant knavish sweaty zealot.
Im thinking more the latter. Analysis continues.
You are a stupid autistic little fucktard. Go take a nap faggot.
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Fuck off you little ignorant shit for brains slack jawed faggot.
Take that shit back to your internet hole, you fucking piece of shit.
Or maybe those fund managers would've lost it all in all the crashes over the last few decades. Millions lost their pensions invested by these 'fund managers'. Some people do business and invest in less profitable, less risky yet more stable avenues, real estate is one of them.
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My story with Canadian immigration for tech worker: I worked in the country for 5 years under a student work permit and postgraduate work permit. My last employer filled for LMIA two times, and both applications were returned without explanations without even being officially rejected. The immigration lawyer handling the process told that ESDC does that for a half of applications and that he can't guess any reason for that other than being its policy. Appealing to the ESDC through every possible channel only resulted in this: "ESDC does not consult public on individual LMIA applications"
After that I said Canada bye not because I had no option to stay there, but because I simply felt fed up with weak tech job market and attitude of immigration officials.
You are an ignorant powerless little internet faggot trying to make threats but you know what? You'll get the shit kicked out of you soon enough.
God damn you fucking Russian hackers can't even run text mining correctly.
I've been pointing out to people recently that there was the very real possibility that BOTH candidates were flipped by the Russians and all the jockeying back and forth before Trump won was simply a shell game to keep people emotionally charged and questioning their options when really there were no options because both dcandidates were working for the same masters.
Going off that theory, requiring a US president to be a natural born, rather than naturalized citizen doesn't help in the modern era because it is too easy for a turncoat to escape outside the boundaries of legal US jurisdiction (extrajudicial attempts are still always possible.. if you can find them.) And in fact in the modern era, some naturalized citizens are more patrotic and concerned with their new land than people who were born here and take it for granted.
This is nothing more than Silicon Valley envy. They are so fucking liberal (marxist) and completely consumed by their ideology (religion) that they are doing a Kayne West on the Donald with a story like this. Elections have consequences, you lost.
He underestimates the power of lies, of greed and of human nature itself, the dark ages prove that "the scientific method", can be put aside as easily as any other threat.
Because the government is not a business and the president is not a CEO that gets to do whatever he wants.
No one remembers him here despite fighting a number of wars and being a sponsor of Renaissance.
But back then, everyone would have known his name.
So, Trump will be a bigger story only if he ends up doing something bigger than simply becoming a president and managing a country.
Sometimes you only have one chance at things no do over can right. The Presidency America all of it is a lesser place now and always will be.
This is a giant shit sandwich and everyone is going to have to take a bite.
Hate won, the world has been down this road before we know where it leads.
Yes our technology is much more important than even our lives as it can persist. But socially we are doing next to nothing to prepare for advanced technology . As jobs continue to vanish due to advanced technology and the masses are stressed more and more, and particularly with Luddites in control of the US government, we may see laws that banish a great deal of technology or even complete social disorder such that people live more like rats who forage for scraps. And we also face the spectacle of blaming some minority for our woes. The ignorant will always want to place blame on a minority when times are hard. In history the Jews or the black folks are the typical victims of that kind of thought. As employment becomes ever more of an issue I suspect we will hear people claiming it was the Jews who are responsible and others claiming that black folks and Latino people have wrecked the economy. The racist creeps will come out of the woodwork as the masses are stressed.
Trump is a far more serious threat to the world than tech. The next 4 years are going to be marked by a profoundly anti-science, alt-right administration that will find new and novel ways to fuck the planet and people who live on it.
First there is other technology besides processor based tech. Our lives have already been changed greatly.
I'm not so optimistic about the near future becoming known for great technological advancement. Frankly most life changing computer based tech has already been realized. Instant personal global communications. Storage of all pre video era information can be held on a single low cost drive. I just don't see anything in the near future that will be life changing. Virtual reality? More about gee whiz and sci-fi movie eye candy than any life changing tech for most people. AI and self driving cars? I'm not confident these will be realized. I'm talking about the reality kind of realization rather than the marketing hype type realization. Yet another cell phone app? Not really any new tech. Just marketing using already established tech. Oh, and not world changing either.
Why is everything we do all day long tracked? Whose business is it what I read and say online? I know who *thinks* it's their business, the tech industry. The same people who are promoting fake stories and biasing my news for their candidate of choice. The same tech industry is gleefully destroying jobs in the name of "progress" while importing people to take the few jobs that have been created. It's the media who are hiding stories that contradict their view of the world and promoting a false narrative of events to stir the pot.
So yes, it is great that I can see real-time traffic and weather and find a good deal on whatever consumer item I think I need to make me happy but I would trade all that to get rid of the blood-sucking pack of the media and the tech industry dogging my every move.
Yes, he does have a track record and experience. Have you taken a look at it? Ignore the fact that his companies declared bankruptcy however many times. Smart business if he needed to, right?
No, look at how anyone who ever put their money and trust in him made out. He has consistently used every position of power and authority he's ever had solely for maximum personal gain, and left the people who trusted him with nothing but smoking rubble and tears. Maybe this time will suddenly be different? Sure, yeah, totally.
this is the age of incremental crappy technology that pushes everyone to spend more time at work and away from their families. that's probably a first for technology.
If you want to talk about technology advancement, look at refridgeration liberating women from full-time canning.
Look at cars growing cities. And roads.
Look at the post office making written communication cost pennies -- think of everything coming by mail, like bills.
Look at telephones allowing families to connect.
Look at beer, bringing drinkable non-toxic water far from fresh-water sources, allowing civilization to build cities in the first place.
Look at sewers and plumbing and running water.
Look at flight.
All of the above improves life with family, life with friends, and the building of cities. They make us safer, and sounder, and comfortable in our own homes. They save lives.
Supercomputers in our pockets do absolutely none of that. They merely give us information, most of which we don't actually use once we acquire it, and they provide entertainment in the most anti-social manner possible, and they push us to spend more time working for less wealth.
Try again.
>> He has no political experience or record
> Why do people keep saying this? He is the founder and executive of many businesses
He has business experience. He has executive experience. He doesn't have political experience, beyonworking with politicians to get approvals for projects, etc.
> When Barack Obama was elected
A few months before Obama launched his presidential campaign, he said he shouldn't and wouldn't run for pursuant because he had no experience. Because "I believe in knowing what you're doing when you -- when you apply for a job." I agree with Obama -he's correct that he lacked experience, severely. Yet the world didn't come to an end.
People love to associate the economic successes of the 1990s with Clinton knowing full well that correlation is not causation . Meanwhile, the viral expansion of the use of PCs and the internet during that time totally changed the way business is conducted. Technology changes things regardless of who is in the White House...as long as government doesn't stand in its way e.g. the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The first iPhone came out during the Bush administration. Did he have anything to do with it? Nope. Did it change communication as we knew it? Yup.
It's like people here have never encountered office politics before.
I'll totally remember 2016 as the year I lost Medicaid. Not the year I lost my headphone jack on the iPhone.
Those who think they are immune from politics are naive idiots. Politics created the Manhattan project. Politics created military support for semiconductors, which created the integrated circuit. Politics created ARPA which created the internet. Politics can just as easily shut it all down.
Trump will be our presodent. He has no political experience or record,
When Barack Obama was elected, the only experience he had was community organizing and a few years as a junior senator.
Obama also was a State Senator from 1997-2004. He also taught constitutional law for 12 years. Years as a Senator is what is known as "political experience". Donald Trump has none.
The government is not a business. It has different goals and works in different ways. I don't know why people think it's a good idea to have a businessman run the country but here we are.
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"Canada's new push to attract foreign tech workers..."
Reminds me when the Avro Arrow (at the time was the fastest flying fighter jet ever) and the Avrocar (a real flying saucer, and led the way to hovercraft vehicles) were cancelled. Prior Canada was the third largest aerospace power. It was said thousands of Canadian engineers moved to US along with German engineers that was a great boost for the US space program. Will they become a major contender? A Canuck Silicon Valley? A Canadian be the first to walk the surface of the Moon since Gene Cernan?
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One of countless stories on the negative affcts of the technology: facebook
The one platform the people are being hurded onto for all aspects of their lives is the most damaging one, for real people that is. People who dont live fake plastic hashtag lives.
He is already reversing course on all the rhetoric used to rile up the populist vote.
Trump's supporters don't expect him to follow through on the literal statements he made during the campaign. Only his detractors took him literally. When he promised to build a wall, his supporters were not expecting a physical wall, just that they would finally see a politician take illegal immigration seriously.
Disclaimer: I didn't vote for Trump, but I know plenty of people that did, mostly relatives.
What a load of bullcrap. I know people who truly and literally believed (and still believe) he will build a wall, literally that every single illegal is from Mexico, literally that every one of them is a rapist and murderer, and literally that Trump will single handedly wave his magic wand (or dick or whatever) and they will all go poof, all of that without ever straining our finances.
I have people telling me in real life that Obama was a Kenyan and that the FEMA death camps were going to be real. People that packed ammo and shit for the ends of days, who pretty much stopped talking to me (and even started to hate me, literally) when I poked holes in their logic. People that at some point they seemed normal to me, co-workers, neighbors, activity partners. It was like holy shit, was there some type of mass lead poisoning that affected them all at infancy or something.
People who think themselves decent, churchgoing people who all of the sudden chose to look the other way at Trump's dog whistles and chose to (re)normalize racism just because Trump's campaign was throwing them a bone by making some stupid promise to make their lives better.
I get that people are frustrated, but to just look the other way at racism and claim "I'm not a racist, I'm voting for policies" when the bulk of those policies make not a goddamned fucking sense.
I mean, for fucks' sake, we are talking about a country that has people that literally believe the world was created in 7 days, that believes in Jade Helm, Agenda 21, that George Soros is some type of Jewish Nazi illuminati (and on the other side of the political fence, we have people who think vaccines are not needed and who will hear from what David whats-his-face-Avocado Wolfe telling them gravity is an allergy.)
If you really believe that his supporters didn't believe some or most of that bullshit, I have a bridge to sell to you.
Do not underestimate the immense amount of ignorance and stupidity displayed by our electorate (be them right or left leaning, there are stupid people in both sides of the aisle.)
So he lied?
Were anything of the things he said true?
How do you think the coal miners and people working in industries displaced by globalisation will feel when it comes to light he is just going to follow the establishment path on globalisation?
Get your facts straight. Those people weren't displaced by globalization. For every 1 job displaced by globalization, 6 have been done away by automation. I'm fucking tired of giving links and citations for these claims I'm making. Find them yourself if you are interested. But here is the thing as the perfect example: the US is producing more or less the same amount of steel now than 30 years ago. That's between 90 and 110 million tons.
But this is the thing. 30 years ago, the ration of integrated mills (which include mining pig iron) over mini-mills (specialized in scrap metal) was 8/2. In 2015, that ration was 3/6. We produce the same amount of steel, but with less people.
And automation and robotics is going to nuke the shit out of those jobs.
Harking back at globalization makes for a shiny boogeyman. It won't do shit for these people. This is not to say globalization hasn't had a negative impact on many (nor nullify that it has had a positive impact on "other" many in this country.)
The Rust Belt is bust and not a single political party has done squat to prevent it, nor propose anything to fix it. Not even Trump.
What you see in the Rust Belt is more or less a mirror image of what happens to a third world country that banks its luck on commodities alone.
Shit won't get fixed by barking at the wrong tree.
Which, if I'm honest, is exactly how I've been coping with W in power, and with half of my roommates having no insurance, etc. etc.
Also, don't blame ME, I'm not even eligible to vote! Blah-di-blah.
But what ppl forget when they say "don't distract us, we're transforming the world here, motherfucker" is that we have the technology to turn the entire world into something worse than 1984... And if the answer to the question "why shouldn't we" is too subtle to penetrate 50.1% of skulls, then suddenly the fact that we can do these things becomes part of the problem. Yay.
I'm looking forward to the way the shareholders will deal with the ethical dilemma of being paid to dismantle a free society.
Are you saying that Obama understood that before he became president?
Either way, it's a pretty small detail, that comes up once in a presidency.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Years as a Senator count as "zero experience as an Executive." If anything, senatorial experience exposes someone as willing to talk endlessly about a matter while doing nothing more.
Trump will be our presodent. He has no political experience or record,
Why do people keep saying this? He is the founder and executive of many businesses, a global real estate empire, and now a successful campaign for the preidency. When Barack Obama was elected, the only experience he had was community organizing and a few years as a junior senator. Oh, and the campaign.
Of the two, even today, who has more years experience running an organization?
Running a business and running a government aren't even remotely related. He's already finding out pretty damn quick that they aren't hence the considerable amount of backtracking he's already had to do from his ludicrous campaign promises.
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I am optimistic about the possible lowering of HB1's in the country. It might not be the end all solution however it will make a positive impact for US technology workers. Getting a tech job today is very difficult and it shouldn't be as we have all this tremendous "Demand".
...and be the next Snowden... https://www.greatagain.gov/ser...
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
"Supercomputers in our pockets do absolutely none of that."
The ability to have a voice conversation with anyone on the planet, at any time, hasn't benefited society? Try again.
Fund managers do no better at increasing the capital of an account than simply parking that capital into an index fund.
I am an American. and I am ashamed that Donald Jabroni Trump is the President. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Technology is Huuuugggee! Everyone knows it!
So Levy's penned yet another masturbatory hagiography of technology? (Well, at least this one is short.) Now that's news!
"Earth-shattering", eh? Please. "Significant economic and social consequences" would be fine, but the earth remains unshattered, people continue to be people, and overall for the vast majority of humanity life continues pretty much as it has for most of the modern era, even if quality of life is gradually inching upward.
For the most part we continue to live ordinary lives filled with mundane concerns and ephemeral diversions, in insular communities of mostly like-minded folk, bundled up into squabbling nation-states. Peasant or president, willfully ignorant or cosmopolitan intellectual - our lives would still be highly recognizable to members of some number of previous generations, depending on how recently modernity has swept us up into its arms. The (admittedly huge) changes in information and communication technology of the past half-century[1] certainly affect everyday life, but they haven't really transformed in any fundamental way. Sure, the telegraph is a lot more convenient now, and we have a lot fewer horses on the roads. But for everyone but the poorest, things like window screening and refrigeration and electric lighting have had a far greater impact on both the nature and quality of life.
[1] And yes, I lived through most of them too. I'm a little younger than Levy, but not enough to matter in this case. And unlike him, I actually work with those technologies.
Yes.
Look, most Presidents have very little to do with the economy and how America is doing. For example, the PC boom in the early 90s and Internet boom throughout the 90s made President Bill Clinton look good. The economy was humming, so he got to spend his time "doing" other things.
The DotCom crash happened in 1999. The economy was hit but would have survived if not for the second crash that occurred after 9/11. Clinton was a terrible president who gets all the accolades of a great economy that are undeserved. If anything, he was too busy dealing with his extramarital sex life to have any clue what was happening with the DotCom world.
Bush Jr. was also a terrible President but he looks way worse than Clinton because both 9/11 and the housing bubble happened during his years in office. Neither were his fault. But hey, he was in office, so blame him.
In reality, Trump has to work with the balance of powers. Usually a president can't do too much damage.
Similarly, Obama came after the housing crash and there was nowhere to go but up and he was just in time to catch the mobile market and the Cloud markets that are booming and driving the booming economy. He passed Obamacare, which had a very low approval rating. Forcing a bill down the people throat when the majority vote against it is not a good thing. However, trying to help everyone have health care is a good thing. So who knows if we good or bad. Usually, it is hard to tell if a President was good or bad until about 20 years after they leave office.
Trump could be in for a shock if the mobile and cloud tech bubbles pop. The economy could tank and there is nothing he or anyone else can do about it.
When it comes to the economy, the President has less power, than Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, NetFlix, etc...
Can this world turn without technology ? Can a PC operate without MicroSoft Windows ? Can a car run without FUEL ?
Re: "...the only experience [Obama] had was community organizing and a few years as a junior senator."
So then Obama had experience. As a politician.
Sorry, but I believe that running a business is quite different than being a politician. Even as President, there are tons of things that you have to cooperate to get, to negotiate for, and to persuade to achieve. As the CEO of an organization it's much easier to simply issue commands and edicts, and most CEOs do exactly that.
This isn't theoretical either. There was a successful Mayor here locally, who retired. This is in a good sized city too, not some little town. He gave a long interview that was most revealing. I'll attempt to paraphrase and summarize (apologies to him if I fall short):
"As the owner of a small business, I believe I was like most businessmen. I was busy, I kept my head down and I was totally focused on my family and managing my business. I wanted the local politicians to keep taxes down, leave us business people alone, and be efficient. I thought that was what being a successful politician was. When I became Mayor, gradually I realized that wasn't what being a Mayor was. You needed to have a vision for the city. You needed to lead citizens and city council towards a future that would be better for all. You needed to think about the lives people led and how the municipality could improve those lives. Yet even as Mayor, I only have one vote. Council decides what will happen and the Mayor gets just one vote. Being Mayor wasn't like running my business."
Absolutely correct. Shit, I wish I hadn't used up all my mod points yesterday.