Once Trump gained the candidacy it was never about Hillary. A turnip would make for a more qualified president.
Too bad you don't want that bridge... Funny though, Trump actually displayed more insight when he observed that he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and his base wouldn't mind. There is nothing that would convince you that the man has a racist bone in his body.
I don't think people like you get it. If the election were repeated Trump's win would be monumental.
C'mon, it'll be fun!
And this way the rest of the world doesn't have to mull over the uncertainty if Trump was just an electoral accident, or if he actually reflects a batshit crazy electorate.
The US meddled in the Ukraine conflict exploiting existing social fractures and feelings of disenfranchisement.
The Russian having been pushed hard in the Ukraine retaliated by meddling in the US election by exploiting existing social fractures and feelings of disenfranchisement.
BTW I am not particular ticked at Russia, they do what they think is best in their national interest, but people like you, who are blind on one eye and refuse to see the whole picture. And just to be clear IMHO America is, not now, nor ever was particular exceptional.
In other federal systems states are for instance represented in a separate chamber, co-equal to the parliament which goes by proportional representation.
The EC in practice makes the decision hinge on very few swing states. In practice there is virtually no campaigning in safe red or blue states, and the voters there are essentially completely disenfranchised.
The effect that the popular vote is not aligned with the EC is a recent one in modern history. I am old enough to remember when it was thought to be something hypothetical, and considered a fatal break-down of democracy (it would have given the Soviets ammunition to belittle the American system).
And contrary to what you may think at this time, chances are you will eventually understand that with an individual as uniquely unfit for president as Trump, we are all on the losing side. Any other Republican would be better. And that includes Pence, with whom I share not a yota of political beliefs. That is because Pence at least knows how to govern, and how to work within the complexities of the federal system.
Competency and mental stability matters in that line of work (also Pence is most certainly not a Russian asset, matters of national security would be much safer with him).
The opposition to Hitler accepted his electoral victory in 1933 even though the Nazi party had used voter intimidation and minority baiting to win.
The parliamentarian system in the Weimar republic did not work at all like the winner take all system in the US. Rather it was a proportional system, where every vote had indeed the same weight. So the Weimar party leaders did not act as naively as it may appear in hindsight, given that Hitler did not achieve a majority in parliament.
In the Weimar system your vote did not go to individual candidates but parties. These parties maintained a list of candidates. According to the share of votes more of their candidates would get into parliament in descending order. I.e. the first name on the NSDAP list was Hitler. So a vote for the NSDAP was a vote for Hitler.
Despite their best efforts the Nazis only garnered 43.9 percent of the vote. So there was no reason for the other parties to reject the election results. By banding together they could have still block the Nazi's agenda. But of course that is not how history played out. Hitler strong armed other parties to support him and declared the leftist opposition to be illegal, shutting them out of parliament to get the kind of super-majority required to turn the republic into a dictatorship.
At any rate, your point is well taken. Don't accept an election result that may end democracy. Especially not when it is won on a technicality, and does not actually represent a true majority of the voters.
As a consequence of the Weimar Republic experience, the new post-WW2 German constitution enshrined that principle as "Wehrhafte Demokratie":
If you make any politician your hero, you already made a grave mistake.
At any rate, Obama won the electoral college and the popular vote whereas Trump is projected to end up with three million votes less than Hillary. Apples and oranges.
Just like the Koch brothers Soros does what he wants to. But his influence is way exaggerated on the alt-right, because he perfectly fits their enemy schema of evil Jewish bankster.
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Once Trump gained the candidacy it was never about Hillary. A turnip would make for a more qualified president.
Too bad you don't want that bridge ... Funny though, Trump actually displayed more insight when he observed that he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and his base wouldn't mind. There is nothing that would convince you that the man has a racist bone in his body.
Who is this Hillary person you speak of and why should I care about her?
Anyhow, if you think the Birther thing wasn't about race I have a wonderful bridge to sell you. It's a great deal, you really don't want to miss it.
You mistake me for alt-right.
We are not a banana republic. Get that through your head.
LOL. Thanks for making my day.
I don't think people like you get it. If the election were repeated Trump's win would be monumental.
C'mon, it'll be fun!
And this way the rest of the world doesn't have to mull over the uncertainty if Trump was just an electoral accident, or if he actually reflects a batshit crazy electorate.
I am all for clarity.
Your caps lock got stuck.
Well he didn't accept the voting results. In his own words millions of illegal votes were cast.
So I am right there with him. This is very upsetting. We need a do over. I suggest Obama declares a state of emergency until we can figure this out.
Let's just say the whole Birther thing is a bit of a tell, then the not renting to black folks in NYC is kind of a give-away as well.
Except, he thinks, he would've won even more.
Well, that's nice for him, unfortunately now that we have his word for it, that it was rigged, we clearly can't be sure without a do-over.
Sorry, there are no Constitutional provisions for that.
Rules are for losers. But not a man like Trump.
Clearly, I must be one of those self-hating, heterosexual white males.
Clearly he grabbed you by your epic sense of humor.
talking about trademark tarnishment.
How much will daddy have to pay Ivanka for the damage that he did to her brand?
My wife tried to vote absentee from Canada, her last residence was in NC. She never received a ballot or any other follow-up.
Yes, now even Trump agrees the election was rigged and is off by million of votes. So obviously it needs to be nullified and repeated.
Voting for a racist was a great way to make your point.
Not gonna happen. A lot of people are going to have a lot of fun with the impostor Troll in Chief.
Better get used to it.
To make a short story short:
The US meddled in the Ukraine conflict exploiting existing social fractures and feelings of disenfranchisement.
The Russian having been pushed hard in the Ukraine retaliated by meddling in the US election by exploiting existing social fractures and feelings of disenfranchisement.
BTW I am not particular ticked at Russia, they do what they think is best in their national interest, but people like you, who are blind on one eye and refuse to see the whole picture. And just to be clear IMHO America is, not now, nor ever was particular exceptional.
Yeah, I can see that you totally understand all sides of the conflict, and are not just buying into the Russian narrative.
In other federal systems states are for instance represented in a separate chamber, co-equal to the parliament which goes by proportional representation.
The EC in practice makes the decision hinge on very few swing states. In practice there is virtually no campaigning in safe red or blue states, and the voters there are essentially completely disenfranchised.
The effect that the popular vote is not aligned with the EC is a recent one in modern history. I am old enough to remember when it was thought to be something hypothetical, and considered a fatal break-down of democracy (it would have given the Soviets ammunition to belittle the American system).
And contrary to what you may think at this time, chances are you will eventually understand that with an individual as uniquely unfit for president as Trump, we are all on the losing side. Any other Republican would be better. And that includes Pence, with whom I share not a yota of political beliefs. That is because Pence at least knows how to govern, and how to work within the complexities of the federal system.
Competency and mental stability matters in that line of work (also Pence is most certainly not a Russian asset, matters of national security would be much safer with him).
The opposition to Hitler accepted his electoral victory in 1933 even though the Nazi party had used voter intimidation and minority baiting to win.
The parliamentarian system in the Weimar republic did not work at all like the winner take all system in the US. Rather it was a proportional system, where every vote had indeed the same weight. So the Weimar party leaders did not act as naively as it may appear in hindsight, given that Hitler did not achieve a majority in parliament.
In the Weimar system your vote did not go to individual candidates but parties. These parties maintained a list of candidates. According to the share of votes more of their candidates would get into parliament in descending order. I.e. the first name on the NSDAP list was Hitler. So a vote for the NSDAP was a vote for Hitler.
Despite their best efforts the Nazis only garnered 43.9 percent of the vote. So there was no reason for the other parties to reject the election results. By banding together they could have still block the Nazi's agenda. But of course that is not how history played out. Hitler strong armed other parties to support him and declared the leftist opposition to be illegal, shutting them out of parliament to get the kind of super-majority required to turn the republic into a dictatorship.
At any rate, your point is well taken. Don't accept an election result that may end democracy. Especially not when it is won on a technicality, and does not actually represent a true majority of the voters.
As a consequence of the Weimar Republic experience, the new post-WW2 German constitution enshrined that principle as "Wehrhafte Demokratie":
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Think of it as the opposite of a landslide victory.
Statistically it was pretty much a toss up and Trump managed to squeeze in.
This election has yet again affirmed how outdated the system is.
You can have a federation with strong state rights without making some votes count nothing.
Or to quote: "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."
I leave it up to you to guess who said that.
If you make any politician your hero, you already made a grave mistake.
At any rate, Obama won the electoral college and the popular vote whereas Trump is projected to end up with three million votes less than Hillary. Apples and oranges.
Trump's base is going to be so delighted when he tries to phase out medicare.
And no, the nation obviously has not spoken, since the majority rejected him. And this will be rubbed into his face over and over again.
Just like the Koch brothers Soros does what he wants to. But his influence is way exaggerated on the alt-right, because he perfectly fits their enemy schema of evil Jewish bankster.