Nobody expected yet another election where the losing candidate gets the most votes. And to add insult to injury Trump received the third worst vote margin in all of US history, yet he already acts like he has a mandate by making some very extreme announcements and decisions. Such as supporting Ryan's plan to phase out medicare.
Russia has been running a disinformation campaign 24/7 since the Ukraine war started.
Just because the US knows how to snoope and spy doesn't mean the Russians unlearned that trade since the cold war. And you can be assured the NSA had nothing on KGB and Stasi.
... to how they approached the disinformation war when the Ukraine conflict was underway, you could have seen this from miles away.
Open societies are vulnerable to this kind of attack, and other Western countries like Germany, with an upcoming election are ramping up their counter-intelligence efforts to not be rolled like the US.
BS the private interests fall along the lines of old fossil fuel interests aligned with Russia versus smart tech. Thiel was just smart enough to buy himself some influence.
Well, at this point he will get plenty of publicity at any rate. Comes with the position. But there are certain things, like national security, that even hard-line Republicans should care about. Even the remote possibility that Trump has been compromised should scare the bejeezus out of everybody.
My wife already took the plunge and became a Canadian citizen. I am still just a permanent resident.
It was easy for me to transfer within the company that I worked for. At the time there were openings in Toronto, and I was able to negotiate a nice salary increase. My employer did all the paperwork for the temporary work visas. So for me it was very easy to move here.
The application for permanent residency I had to prepare without help. It's a lot of tedious work but perfectly doable without having to go through a costly immigration lawyer.
If you are a MD you will qualify easily for immigration. Getting the permanent residency is a lengthy process, but if you find an employer to sponsor a temp visa, you can move quickly. I figure for a medical professional that will be an option.
Supposedly compromising material was collected on him while he stayed in Moscow on a business trip, I've seen speculations that this happened at or during the 2013 Ms Universe pageant.
Speaking to Bloomberg News, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said staffers at the Russian Embassy in Washington met with members of Trump's campaign - meetings she described as "normal practice." Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign refused similar requests for meetings, Zakharova told the agency.
Please re-read my original post. This is not about the intel on Clinton but the alleged compromising of Trump on one of his trips to Moscow.
Or to put it in simple terms: The suspicion that the Russians have something on Trump that they can use for coercion, hence his bending over backwards to be nice to them (something that seems rather out of character).
I never said that the Russians didn't have a very good reason to engage in their (outstanding) counter-intelligence war. I don't even blame them, they are acting in what they regard as their best national interest.
Russia was squeezed way too hard in the Ukraine. It's precisely because they have such a good motive what makes this story all the more plausible.
Obviously, at this time, it is just alleged that the compromising occurred. But it is plausible given everything we know. And this possibility should give any red blooded American pause.
If you want to call these facts stupid, be my guest.
The Russian pol who admitted the coordination was Sergey Markov (not to be confused with the famous mathematician Andrey Markov): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Mandate. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Winning the electoral college and therefore becoming president, is a necessary but not sufficient criteria for a moral mandate.
Nobody expected yet another election where the losing candidate gets the most votes. And to add insult to injury Trump received the third worst vote margin in all of US history, yet he already acts like he has a mandate by making some very extreme announcements and decisions. Such as supporting Ryan's plan to phase out medicare.
Russia has been running a disinformation campaign 24/7 since the Ukraine war started.
Just because the US knows how to snoope and spy doesn't mean the Russians unlearned that trade since the cold war. And you can be assured the NSA had nothing on KGB and Stasi.
Newsflash (not fake): The Russians aren't red any more.
Didn't stop them from annexing Crimea though.
So just because the US has been doing it you think the Russians will not?
Propaganda is as old as warfare itself.
Your truth is clearly not my truth, because I fully subscribe to your points (1) and (2).
... to how they approached the disinformation war when the Ukraine conflict was underway, you could have seen this from miles away.
Open societies are vulnerable to this kind of attack, and other Western countries like Germany, with an upcoming election are ramping up their counter-intelligence efforts to not be rolled like the US.
BS the private interests fall along the lines of old fossil fuel interests aligned with Russia versus smart tech. Thiel was just smart enough to buy himself some influence.
This will create an international outcry, and the predictable Trump answer will be: You want to keep it, you'll have to pay for it.
Well, at this point he will get plenty of publicity at any rate. Comes with the position. But there are certain things, like national security, that even hard-line Republicans should care about. Even the remote possibility that Trump has been compromised should scare the bejeezus out of everybody.
He is a veritable Zelig of American Politics.
Your welcome, just practicing my Canadian politeness :-)
My wife already took the plunge and became a Canadian citizen. I am still just a permanent resident.
It was easy for me to transfer within the company that I worked for. At the time there were openings in Toronto, and I was able to negotiate a nice salary increase. My employer did all the paperwork for the temporary work visas. So for me it was very easy to move here.
The application for permanent residency I had to prepare without help. It's a lot of tedious work but perfectly doable without having to go through a costly immigration lawyer.
If you are a MD you will qualify easily for immigration. Getting the permanent residency is a lengthy process, but if you find an employer to sponsor a temp visa, you can move quickly. I figure for a medical professional that will be an option.
Hope this help.
Rational adults don't pack up and move to Canada when an election doesn't go their way, ...
Good thing nobody told me that. I moved to Canada after Bush Jr. was re-elected. Never regretted it once.
Supposedly compromising material was collected on him while he stayed in Moscow on a business trip, I've seen speculations that this happened at or during the 2013 Ms Universe pageant.
I see, so Putin is just leveling the playing field.
Well, I for once do not welcome our Russian overlords.
(3) To quote from this WPo article:
Speaking to Bloomberg News, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said staffers at the Russian Embassy in Washington met with members of Trump's campaign - meetings she described as "normal practice." Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign refused similar requests for meetings, Zakharova told the agency.
(8) I guess this Australian News service is Breitbart's left counter-part down under?
Sorry buddy, this rumor can't be knocked down that easily, it just fits the facts way too frighteningly well.
That he made Flynn national security adviser is just icing on the cake. That guy celebrated Russia's propaganda channel RT with Putin in attendance,
Russia spends over $1B annually on disinformation, and that's just the money we know about.
Facebook and Twitter build them the perfect playpen.
Please re-read my original post. This is not about the intel on Clinton but the alleged compromising of Trump on one of his trips to Moscow.
Or to put it in simple terms: The suspicion that the Russians have something on Trump that they can use for coercion, hence his bending over backwards to be nice to them (something that seems rather out of character).
You clearly don't understand my point.
I never said that the Russians didn't have a very good reason to engage in their (outstanding) counter-intelligence war. I don't even blame them, they are acting in what they regard as their best national interest.
Russia was squeezed way too hard in the Ukraine. It's precisely because they have such a good motive what makes this story all the more plausible.
I like your attention to detail, i.e. adding the cents to Clinton's speaking fee.
But you need to brush up on your puppet logic, it's not actually a STD.
You also don't seem to have read the thread.
The reason I was pointing out the 2013 pageant in Moscow, was to specifically counter the assertion by unixisc that Trump had no business in Moscow.
(BTW Bill Clinton, like all former presidents, will have had a US security detail on his trip to Moscow).
Since the Ms. Universe pageant in Moscow happens to be a fact, you can really pick and chose what media you want to report on it.
Point is, business took Trump to Moscow, i.e. there was opportunity for the FSB to compromise him.
Here's video of your hero opening the pageant in Moscow.
Obviously, at this time, it is just alleged that the compromising occurred. But it is plausible given everything we know. And this possibility should give any red blooded American pause.
If you want to call these facts stupid, be my guest.
Trump is very vain. A video showing him with a less than stellar sexual performance would sting him a lot.
Just for you dear AC, another source:
http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton...
The Russian pol who admitted the coordination was Sergey Markov (not to be confused with the famous mathematician Andrey Markov): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...