Most companies (including us) that use the popular Linux/Java combination do so without caring about any Open Source ideolgies. The combination is simply outstanding.
Linux on the desktop is facing an uphill battle. It has made very little inroads against the Apple and Microsoft jauggernaut. Lack of desktop standards and UI guidlines is the main culprit.
As long as we have KDE and GNOME and a weak display technology, Linux will never be a serious contender on the desktop. Unfortunetly, choice is NOT good when it comes to desktops. Think GSM vs. the many US cellular technologies. Standard vs fragmantation.
it will fail miserably. MS needs to redesign the user interface of this thing. It is confusing and convoluted. I would love to see MS simplify it to just audio and add podcasting.
when this topic dies down. As a Java developer for the past 7 years, can someone remind me as to how Java will benefit from being open source? Sun along with the JCP has done an incredible job in advancing the platform. Java is the number one development environment for business applications. Bar none.
Why would someone encourage fragmentation and resource wasting ala KDE, Gnome and the gazzillions of Linux flavors is beyond me.
Sun, keep up the great stwerdess of the Java platform.
There was no such upset or confusion in the realm of windowing environments. KDE -- last year's leader -- has increased its dominance, growing from 44 percent to 61 percent of respondants
Given the number of 787 orders (Over 230) vs. A380 (150), it seems that there are more companies that agree with Boeing's vision of Point-to-Point vs. big hub systems.
years ago. There is no money to be made in stock IDE's. Building value added plugins for a popular IDE (Eclipse) and people might pay more money. The Java platform is in a wonderful position with all the free (and superb) IDE's available. Eclipse and Netbeans are both excellent IDE's that other platforms can only dream off.
My prediction is that IDEA's IntelliJ will also go open source. The gap between it and the above mentioned IDE's is very narrow to warrant spending the dough.
At a hedge fund that I used to work for, traders joked that Intel keeps AMD in business just to keep the FTC off its backs. Whenever AMD gained any advantage, Intel just squashed them.
No one expected Intel to beat AMD in dual cores this quickly and be able to release 64bit x86 process at this rate. This is a huge monopoly even more so to some degree than Microsoft.
If opensource was a measuring stick for a language success, then Java would have failed miserably. Java also runs on all these systems. Why should I abandon Java for Python?
The role of Java vs. C/C++ is clearly defined. Provide a fairly portable platform that eases business application development. I just do not see what Python gives me above Java. I don't need some trivial examples of syntatic sugar that Python has. Give me a real business reason that will cause enterprise developers to abandon Java and move to Python.
There simply isn't a a business application development platform that has more industry and development muscle behind it. Microsoft and all its money has not dented Java's dominance in the enterprise. Just Check C# or.NET vs Java on Dice. Pretty sad given the billions that MS has spent.
for Python jobs. It returned 312 jobs. Java returned 9196. I don't think Python will ever dent Java's dominance in the enterprise. Do you really expect Python to do what.NET has failed to do? Not a chance. It is a cute scripting language. No more and no less. Python competes with Perl and Ruby.
Connexion by Boeing has created two attractive pricing packages that offer affordable choice and flexibility for your time in the air. All pricing shown in US dollars.
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Internet Minutes Metered access for your flight leg. Go online for 30 minutes to use your e-mail or chat with friends back home. After 30 minutes, each additional minute is only $0.25. If you plan on going online more than once, or for longer periods, our unlimited Internet Flight package will offer a better value.
$7.95 initial fee for service on short flights under 3 hours $9.95 initial fee for service on medium and long flights over 3 hours
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Tracing route to 172.16.64.1 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms aliia [192.168.1.1] deleted 2 for timeout
3 14 ms 11 ms 22 ms 68.87.227.13
4 21 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.87.229.161
5 17 ms 15 ms 16 ms 12.125.194.13
6 20 ms 28 ms 23 ms 12.123.4.230
7 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms tbr2-cl1.dtrmi.ip.att.net [12.122.10.133]
8 28 ms 21 ms 23 ms gar3-p390.dtrmi.ip.att.net [12.123.139.58]
9 26 ms 27 ms 24 ms 172.16.64.1
I know this might sound very strange, but last I checked people use computers for their applications (Word Processors, Spreadsheets, surf the net). Most users could care less about the underlying OS. The biggest problem with displacing MS from the desktop is not the OS but the huge number of applications that people have gotten used to. Office is the one application that keeps most companies from migrating to alternative OSs like Linux, BSD.
Of course Oracle is only 32 bits and the java is 32-bit as well since its closed source.
Huh? Oracle has been 64bits for ages on supported OS's (Solaris). The Java that we are using is 64bits. You can down load it from Sun's website for Solaris, Linux and http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp. also, since when does open/close source determine whether software is 32/64bit?
The article states that AMD is mostly faster than the Intel chips when performing a single task. However, the article also states that the Intel chips best AMD's offering when it comes to multitasking. I read the Linux hardware benchmark and it seems very biased towards a single task.
We currently run our Java VM's (64 bit) on AMD running FC2 each equipped with 8gigs . These servers perform thousands of calculations on multiple threads per second. So multithreaded benchmarks are of great use to us.
You are making an assumption that developers will write for XAML. Did not really happen with Active-X and other technologies that MS tried to push down developer's throats. Open standards are important to Web developers. Do not bet on automatic success for XAML.
Their phone rates are more expensive than can be had with cheap calling cards. They also seem to charge in Euros which is a 30% premium on already not very cheap rates.
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Most companies (including us) that use the popular Linux/Java combination do so without caring about any Open Source ideolgies. The combination is simply outstanding.
Linux on the desktop is facing an uphill battle. It has made very little inroads against the Apple and Microsoft jauggernaut. Lack of desktop standards and UI guidlines is the main culprit.
As long as we have KDE and GNOME and a weak display technology, Linux will never be a serious contender on the desktop. Unfortunetly, choice is NOT good when it comes to desktops. Think GSM vs. the many US cellular technologies. Standard vs fragmantation.
it will fail miserably. MS needs to redesign the user interface of this thing. It is confusing and convoluted. I would love to see MS simplify it to just audio and add podcasting.
Volume.
that typing 'dir' won't invoke a webservice.
and I just did a search:
;)
Eclipse Sucks 155,000
Netbeans Sucks 11,300
Conclusion: More people think that Eclipse sucks more than NetBean.
when this topic dies down. As a Java developer for the past 7 years, can someone remind me as to how Java will benefit from being open source? Sun along with the JCP has done an incredible job in advancing the platform. Java is the number one development environment for business applications. Bar none.
Why would someone encourage fragmentation and resource wasting ala KDE, Gnome and the gazzillions of Linux flavors is beyond me.
Sun, keep up the great stwerdess of the Java platform.
when I started using KDE part time.
Given the number of 787 orders (Over 230) vs. A380 (150), it seems that there are more companies that agree with Boeing's vision of Point-to-Point vs. big hub systems.
We currently use 64 bit Java on Linux. Works great.
Bite your tongue!!!! A good looking Java Swing app?
years ago. There is no money to be made in stock IDE's. Building value added plugins for a popular IDE (Eclipse) and people might pay more money. The Java platform is in a wonderful position with all the free (and superb) IDE's available. Eclipse and Netbeans are both excellent IDE's that other platforms can only dream off.
My prediction is that IDEA's IntelliJ will also go open source. The gap between it and the above mentioned IDE's is very narrow to warrant spending the dough.
At a hedge fund that I used to work for, traders joked that Intel keeps AMD in business just to keep the FTC off its backs. Whenever AMD gained any advantage, Intel just squashed them.
No one expected Intel to beat AMD in dual cores this quickly and be able to release 64bit x86 process at this rate. This is a huge monopoly even more so to some degree than Microsoft.
Too verbose for you?
java.io.File myFile = new java.io.File("Some file Name");
If opensource was a measuring stick for a language success, then Java would have failed miserably. Java also runs on all these systems. Why should I abandon Java for Python?
The role of Java vs. C/C++ is clearly defined. Provide a fairly portable platform that eases business application development. I just do not see what Python gives me above Java. I don't need some trivial examples of syntatic sugar that Python has. Give me a real business reason that will cause enterprise developers to abandon Java and move to Python.
.NET vs Java on Dice. Pretty sad given the billions that MS has spent.
There simply isn't a a business application development platform that has more industry and development muscle behind it. Microsoft and all its money has not dented Java's dominance in the enterprise. Just Check C# or
for Python jobs. It returned 312 jobs. Java returned 9196. I don't think Python will ever dent Java's dominance in the enterprise. Do you really expect Python to do what .NET has failed to do? Not a chance. It is a cute scripting language. No more and no less. Python competes with Perl and Ruby.
The rates from the Boeing website:
Pricing
Connexion by Boeing has created two attractive pricing packages that offer affordable choice and flexibility for your time in the air. All pricing shown in US dollars.
Internet Flight
Complete and unlimited freedom to use our service at any time during your flight leg. Sign in and out as often as you like.
$14.95 for service on short-haul flights under 3 hours
$19.95 for service on medium-haul flights between 3 to 6 hours
$29.95 for service on long-haul flights over 6 hours
Internet Minutes
Metered access for your flight leg. Go online for 30 minutes to use your e-mail or chat with friends back home. After 30 minutes, each additional minute is only $0.25. If you plan on going online more than once, or for longer periods, our unlimited Internet Flight package will offer a better value.
$7.95 initial fee for service on short flights under 3 hours
$9.95 initial fee for service on medium and long flights over 3 hours
Method of Payment
You can use your credit card or bill your use of our service through your voice and data provider. On select airlines, you may also be able to pay with your frequent flyer miles.
Tracing route to 172.16.64.1 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms aliia [192.168.1.1]
deleted 2 for timeout
3 14 ms 11 ms 22 ms 68.87.227.13
4 21 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.87.229.161
5 17 ms 15 ms 16 ms 12.125.194.13
6 20 ms 28 ms 23 ms 12.123.4.230
7 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms tbr2-cl1.dtrmi.ip.att.net [12.122.10.133]
8 28 ms 21 ms 23 ms gar3-p390.dtrmi.ip.att.net [12.123.139.58]
9 26 ms 27 ms 24 ms 172.16.64.1
A link to the real provider to this technology.
http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/
I know this might sound very strange, but last I checked people use computers for their applications (Word Processors, Spreadsheets, surf the net). Most users could care less about the underlying OS. The biggest problem with displacing MS from the desktop is not the OS but the huge number of applications that people have gotten used to. Office is the one application that keeps most companies from migrating to alternative OSs like Linux, BSD.
Huh? Oracle has been 64bits for ages on supported OS's (Solaris). The Java that we are using is 64bits. You can down load it from Sun's website for Solaris, Linux and http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp. also, since when does open/close source determine whether software is 32/64bit?
The article states that AMD is mostly faster than the Intel chips when performing a single task. However, the article also states that the Intel chips best AMD's offering when it comes to multitasking. I read the Linux hardware benchmark and it seems very biased towards a single task.
We currently run our Java VM's (64 bit) on AMD running FC2 each equipped with 8gigs . These servers perform thousands of calculations on multiple threads per second. So multithreaded benchmarks are of great use to us.
You are making an assumption that developers will write for XAML. Did not really happen with Active-X and other technologies that MS tried to push down developer's throats. Open standards are important to Web developers. Do not bet on automatic success for XAML.
Their phone rates are more expensive than can be had with cheap calling cards. They also seem to charge in Euros which is a 30% premium on already not very cheap rates.