Ditto. Delphi was the last time I actually loved programming, back in the mid/late 90s. Then I got a job using VB6 & raw C - bleh! Progress wasn't a bad 4GL/RDBMS back in the day - wonder if it's still going...
I thought it was a wave/particle probability cloud...? And that's assuming we agree on whether there are squillions of electrons in the known universe, or just the one, ahem.
I thought it was Mexicans anyway? Or was that what the slow dimwits up north call both of us...?
Anyway, I've spent time in both Sydney/NSW & Qld & have no desire or inclination whatsoever to repeat either experience, unless someone is paying me top dollar.:) In fact, Antarctica is much higher on my bucket list than Sydney, the Vegas/Sodom of Australia!;-p
Hey can we load up Google's search engine rankings so any searches for "Milorad Trkulja" come back with goatse.cx (or current equivalent) as top ranked...? <BFG>
He should have had more sense than to draw attention to this. Now the mob lawyers will sue HIS arse off for implying he was associated in any way with their honest businesses AND for calling them out as mobsters. And that's if he's lucky. Ahem.
Heh, so you're saying the US is only worth 16 trillion or so...? Would be interesting to put a net worth on a country, if you count the land, infrastructure, location, natural resources & customers (people) into a value offering. I wonder if anyone has done that for you & worked out if you're still ahead of the debt lol?;)
You're talking about hydrogen fusion only, or most elements...? I guess the difficulty to date has been in creating a working reactor for a sustained, controllable fusion reaction, but I didn't realise we could fuse elements so easily inside colliders, eh.
I think you're just spinning a yarn to us now dude!
Considering we are yet to interact in any meaningful way, much less create, a singularity of any sort, I do not think that indirect observation of the absence of light in roughly circular regions of space many light years away, with some funny gravitational effects thrown in, can be proven to in fact be BHs, by any maths we can concoct here on earth just yet. In fact, I'm starting to think that most high-level physics maths is just mental masturbation (Sheldon Cooper would be horrified!:).
Particle physics and the standard model to some extent, with all the myriad of 'elementary' particles, such as hadrons, bosons, leptons, muons, gluons, quarks, etc, all with their many properties (colour, strangeness, spin charge, direction, flavour, etc), along with the many types of matter/energy/forces is getting just a little silly now methinks. Clearly the standard model isn't enough & just doesn't satisfy any longer. Most science is approximation & best fit for now anyway, so perhaps we'll never know any ultimate truths about our multiverse & the system is in fact 'weighted' against being 'gamed' to that extent.
Well, there is that entire range of high-energy physics above that which supernovas use to create all the heavy elements. How much energy is required to make iron or lead or gold for example, considering we can't even make Helium reliably as yet...? What about the energy levels needed to create a (micro) black hole? Or is that simply crunching mass together rather than energy, allowing for the duality of course? I'd be curious to know from the real prop-heads here what the highest possible energy density output we know of is. I believe I read somewhere from memory that we could break apart space-time itself at a quantum level if we had enough squillion Joules...?
Just to add to that, wasn't there another boson that came onto the scene, which looked a lot like Pete's but wasn't the same one in fact? I would have thought that would be enough to muddy the waters from any proofs to date.
I think it's been 'tentatively observed' & the scientific jury is still out. And 6-sigma, which only requires accuracy to within 0.000002% defects, is a far cry from proving anything about a particle that only exists for 10x22secs! I didn't know that the scientific method was now using manufacturing/business principles to prove anything btw;-p.
Yeah? Well, last I checked, there was plain matter, antimatter & dark matter. That's it, I'm out! Now, to get back on topic, are they saying that they've managed to 'fuse' some sort of matter with high energy particles to create some sort of gluon hybrid porridge? Is there anyone here who speaks layman physicist English, with nothing more than high school maths pls?:-/
NO, no, it's like the largest freeway car pile-up in automotive history (ala end of Blues Brothers 2:) & the investigators then have to figure out what/who caused it & why/how it happened.
You had me at "'splain" & lost me at combinatorics, ahem.
So, to sum up boyz & girlz, particle physics is all about indirectly observing & then indirectly counting stamps. Kinda like stamp collecting, but there's a lot more of them, most of them are worthless, or worth far less than their cost & no one really cares except the collectors. Am I close...?;-p
I just blew modding by posting earlier, but would have given you a +1 Insightful, rather than funny like everyone else. Except I couldn't get enough info on Slashdot forum & modding procedures off of Wikipedia.:-/
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Ok so it's not so funny then I take it...? :-/
So, the US released a stamp commemorating its fine efforts in progressing mass murder to a new level...?
Ditto. Delphi was the last time I actually loved programming, back in the mid/late 90s. Then I got a job using VB6 & raw C - bleh!
Progress wasn't a bad 4GL/RDBMS back in the day - wonder if it's still going...
I thought it was a wave/particle probability cloud...? And that's assuming we agree on whether there are squillions of electrons in the known universe, or just the one, ahem.
He, he, cheers for enlightening us mate!
LOL - I have no idea what stamp/event you're referring to, but it's funny anyway! ;)
I thought it was Mexicans anyway? Or was that what the slow dimwits up north call both of us...?
Anyway, I've spent time in both Sydney/NSW & Qld & have no desire or inclination whatsoever to repeat either experience, unless someone is paying me top dollar. :) In fact, Antarctica is much higher on my bucket list than Sydney, the Vegas/Sodom of Australia! ;-p
LOL! (no, not at child rape, just the sentiment ;)
Hey can we load up Google's search engine rankings so any searches for "Milorad Trkulja" come back with goatse.cx (or current equivalent) as top ranked...? <BFG>
He should have had more sense than to draw attention to this. Now the mob lawyers will sue HIS arse off for implying he was associated in any way with their honest businesses AND for calling them out as mobsters. And that's if he's lucky. Ahem.
Our illustrious government & law-makers...fucking it up royally since 1838! :)))
God save the Queen & all of us lol !!!
Heh, so you're saying the US is only worth 16 trillion or so...? Would be interesting to put a net worth on a country, if you count the land, infrastructure, location, natural resources & customers (people) into a value offering. I wonder if anyone has done that for you & worked out if you're still ahead of the debt lol? ;)
See, it sucks to contribute as the real workers never get to actually make the rules! ;)
You're talking about hydrogen fusion only, or most elements...? I guess the difficulty to date has been in creating a working reactor for a sustained, controllable fusion reaction, but I didn't realise we could fuse elements so easily inside colliders, eh.
It has discovered just how little you can get for your 7.5 billion Euros these days! >8^D
I think you're just spinning a yarn to us now dude!
Considering we are yet to interact in any meaningful way, much less create, a singularity of any sort, I do not think that indirect observation of the absence of light in roughly circular regions of space many light years away, with some funny gravitational effects thrown in, can be proven to in fact be BHs, by any maths we can concoct here on earth just yet. In fact, I'm starting to think that most high-level physics maths is just mental masturbation (Sheldon Cooper would be horrified! :).
Particle physics and the standard model to some extent, with all the myriad of 'elementary' particles, such as hadrons, bosons, leptons, muons, gluons, quarks, etc, all with their many properties (colour, strangeness, spin charge, direction, flavour, etc), along with the many types of matter/energy/forces is getting just a little silly now methinks. Clearly the standard model isn't enough & just doesn't satisfy any longer. Most science is approximation & best fit for now anyway, so perhaps we'll never know any ultimate truths about our multiverse & the system is in fact 'weighted' against being 'gamed' to that extent.
Nah, Omega eats Element Zeroes for breakfast! ;)
Well, there is that entire range of high-energy physics above that which supernovas use to create all the heavy elements. How much energy is required to make iron or lead or gold for example, considering we can't even make Helium reliably as yet...?
What about the energy levels needed to create a (micro) black hole? Or is that simply crunching mass together rather than energy, allowing for the duality of course? I'd be curious to know from the real prop-heads here what the highest possible energy density output we know of is. I believe I read somewhere from memory that we could break apart space-time itself at a quantum level if we had enough squillion Joules...?
Yeah, it's probably really 11 or 13 dimensional, as opposed to the 2-dim hack job Mendeleev did.
Just to add to that, wasn't there another boson that came onto the scene, which looked a lot like Pete's but wasn't the same one in fact? I would have thought that would be enough to muddy the waters from any proofs to date.
I think it's been 'tentatively observed' & the scientific jury is still out. And 6-sigma, which only requires accuracy to within 0.000002% defects, is a far cry from proving anything about a particle that only exists for 10x22secs! I didn't know that the scientific method was now using manufacturing/business principles to prove anything btw ;-p.
Yeah? Well, last I checked, there was plain matter, antimatter & dark matter. That's it, I'm out! :-/
Now, to get back on topic, are they saying that they've managed to 'fuse' some sort of matter with high energy particles to create some sort of gluon hybrid porridge?
Is there anyone here who speaks layman physicist English, with nothing more than high school maths pls?
You know who you gotta call man!
NO, no, it's like the largest freeway car pile-up in automotive history (ala end of Blues Brothers 2 :) & the investigators then have to figure out what/who caused it & why/how it happened.
You had me at "'splain" & lost me at combinatorics, ahem.
So, to sum up boyz & girlz, particle physics is all about indirectly observing & then indirectly counting stamps. Kinda like stamp collecting, but there's a lot more of them, most of them are worthless, or worth far less than their cost & no one really cares except the collectors. Am I close...? ;-p
I just blew modding by posting earlier, but would have given you a +1 Insightful, rather than funny like everyone else. Except I couldn't get enough info on Slashdot forum & modding procedures off of Wikipedia. :-/