Well if you read the README file that comes with the drivers, it states that the tar ball comes with precompiled modules. A precompiled module may not work with other distributions and that is why they stated RH 5.2/6.0. (Notice 2 different tar balls)
There is NOTHING stoping you from compiling the sources yourself for another distro.
God created man in his image. The Bible does not say God created man in his own image.. but limited his capabilities. It seems to me that an all powerfull and all knowing God may have instilled in us the capabilities of creation. (AKA: creating life) among many other things that we will learn some time in the future.
Sure the ultra religious people will deny this, in the same maner as they deny evolution. But the majority will accept an answer that allows for both religion and science.
1. Heavens And Earth --> Big Bang 2. Land --> Formation of continents 3. Plants --> Evolution Step #1 4. Fish --> Evolution Step #2 5. Animals--> Evolution Step #3 6. Man --> Evolution Step #4
He did all this in 7 days..but who is to say that 7 "God" days is not actually hundreds of millions of "man" years?
On top of that if the religeous people here truely don't believe that their all powerfull God could not have created man by planed evolution are surely short changing his abilities. After all he is all knowing and all powerfull.
The point being is that Creationism and Evolutionism are not directly at odds with each other. What is at odds is the conclusion many people get from evolution and that is that we must have come from nothing. However life came from somewhere.. the only answer is spontaneous (ala the belief of most atheists) or from God.
Ex-Nt-User. PS. I'm actually atheist by belief not because science has proven that God does NOT exist. And to me, religion has certainly not proven he does.
1. 64 Bit Memory and IO Merced can access memory and IO Buses with 64 bit width. That is it can transfer 64bits with 1 atomic operation. On i32 it would take 2 seperate atomic operations to transfer 64bits. (I believe the PII has a 64bit memory bus/but only 32bit adressing)
2. Virtual/Real memory access. With 64bits Merced can acces as much as 2^64 bits of ram or virtual memory. (i32 can only access 2^32 bits of memory)
Considering how MS likes to hype all ot their OS upgrades a 2 years in advance, I'd guess their progress for Merced is at least 3 years away from completion. Of course MS products are always a tear late.. so I figure 2004.
On a serious note I think that like all things Intel IA-64 will be hyped to all hell, and every one will need one. If MS is more then 6 months late with a 64 bit version of NT and Linux for IA-64 is out with the release of Merced I think MS stands a good chance of being left in the dust. Ex-Nt-User
The "industry" standard that Maxtor is refering to is the HD industry. (Seagate,Quantum..etc) The truth of the matter is that the common consumer thinks a Megabyte is 10^6. And a Kilobyte is 10^3 (since they only really been tought that a "kilo" means 1000 etc..)
I don't know which HD manufacturer was first, but they decided to use the 10^6 definition to make their drives "seem" bigger to the joe consumer, thus atempting to give themselves a market advantage, it worked. And the other HD manufacturers had to folow.
Because unlike things like Word processors this stuff is only used by a a few thousand users and takes years of development to create.
It's simple economics. If it takes two programmers 1 year at $50,000 per programer per year the cost of production is: $100,000 If the product is only going to be bought by 1000 people it would have to cost $100 a copy just to break even. If it was bought by a 100,000 people.. well it would still propably cost 100 bucks.. but it would make a heafty profit.
The point is if the cost of production is high and the number of prospective buyers is low then the purchase price will have to be high.
Load does indeed increase the temperature of the CPU. At least with Intel Pentium II and higher CPU. The CPU has internal voltage regulation and control circuitry. When the CPU is executing halt, nop or any other instruction that does not require bus/memory access or is in suspended/low power mode it actually consumes less power. Less power consumed == lower temperature. Whether there is a noticeable temperature difference between Windows being in idle mode and Linux in idle mode is, however, questionable.
And the web is a perfect example of this. If Universal doesn't want people to be able to look at their stuff without going through their website then they shouldn't put it out on the internet PERIOD.
If they win this suit what next? Will they sue me if I tell (ala voice) someone the direct URL to an image on their site too? What's stoping me from instead of linking saing check out "www.universal-pictures.com/images/tippytoplefthea der.gif"? It's not a "Link".. but if you type it into your URL window it will "skip" their main site.
Please if you have a problem with how the web works.. then don't use it.
Why should a KDE/Gnome VCL do Win32's right thing?
Honestly, programmer lazyness... I'd prefer to be able to just do a recompile between a Windoze version and Linux version.
If making a source compatible VCL for GNOME/KDE would indeed be a hack (and not "The Right Thing") I could do with some incompatibilities. Especially on new projects where I could do the #ifdef thing. And have the incompatibilities on my mind when writing the code.
With old projects it's a different story, I have at least 6 apps that would be worth porting. But I wouldn't have the time to invest in modifing them to compile for Linux. Thus the usefulness of such a tool would decline for me.
Ex-Nt-User ps. Just for the record I would prefer a VCL that would do the right thing.
The VCL is a rather complex wrapper around windows common controls. I really believe that it would be possible to modify VCL to wrap around GNOME or KDE controls. Thus you could use the "C++ Builder for Linux" with either widget set.
I've actually considered writing something like this for my own use. (IE could pretty easily port my windoze apps over to KDE or GNOME)
Most of the code in my stuff is standard C++ and the only problems I've had porting the stuff is GUI development. I'd really like to be able to drag and drop GUI widgets in the manner Builder does it on Windows.
I'm stuck writing code for NT at work. I'm working on some Linux code but it's not officially sanctioned. I'm doing it to prove to management it can be done and work as well if not better then NT.
Most of the code is done in C++ Builder because the GUI development is extremely fast and flexible. If Borland would release source compatible VCL and C++ Builder for Linux I don't think my management could argue againts doing everything in Linux. On top of that I could just re-compile all my apps to Linux in not time.
working on a platform with a somewhat obtuse API and dealing with it's inconsistencies. At the same time he can make his job MUCH easier by using Microsoft's wonderful classes, thereby tying his soul forever a Windows platform.
A Class Library can always be duplicated (aka the whole QT thing) so that it may be possible in the future to recompile your windows application under linux by using a API compatible FreeMFC.
1. Cable and telcos have a government given permission to lay cabling on YOUR property.
2. Cable and telco companies are using these government given rights to deploy high-speed/broadband services to their customers.
3. AOL is complaining because they can not get their hands onto that wiring owned by telcos and cable companies.
4. AOL also can't get rights to deploy their OWN wiring to these customers. (Cable/telcos have a monopoly here)
5. AT&T says shutup AOL you should have bought a cable provider.
Here's the problem:
1. If AOL buys a cable provider then they will have a monopoly on service in the cable company's service area. (AT&T will have monopoly in their service area.. etc etc). This is bad for the consumer.
Solutions?:
1. Allow AOL or any other ISP to have land rights to lay their own high-speed infrastructure in your back yard. (I don't think that will go over well with most homeowners)
2. Ignore it. Stick it to AOL and assume that the telco companies (xDSL) and Cable companies with overlapping service areas will compete.
3. Regulate. Have the cable/telco only provide a basic IP service (for a fee) and then allow AOL or another ISP to handle the e-mail, news, etc services. (Also allow the telco/cable co to provide these services)
What's the best / fairest solution in reality?
IMHO #3 would be the best for the consumer, but only if the regulation was done well enough and for a very tiny cost to both the consumer and the service and cable provider. The fact is that #3 is what modem users are doing right now and it works quite well.. so why change it? You pay for the phone line and for the ISP seperately. Many telco's have their own ISP service (USWest), but allow you to choose any you want. But that's just my opinion.
Yeah.. but do we REALLY forget things or are they just temporarily lost there somewhere in the void. We've all had those exerainces where we "forgot" something at the moment we need it.. and then it just comes back to us when we least expect it again.
I think if you're going to try something like this it should NOT be flat fee based. I think the author deserves a fair share of the profit from the sale of the printed version of this book.
I don't know what is a fair value, but I think at least 15% is a start. (15% of the profit, not the cost of the book itself) I think that would encourage the author to do a REAL good job since the quality of the book will be reflected in how much $$$ they make.
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Overly-sensitive? It's not the public..
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I don't think US "citizens" (as in majority of people) are overly-sensitive. I think it's the few with the $$$ and Agendas that are trying to convince US that we SHOULD be overly-sensitive.
Why is it that the majority of people that I've talked to all think that what happaned in Littleton is a tragedy, but non of them think that censorship or blaming tv, video games, etc is the answer nor "the right thing" to do. Yet we're still being bombarded by the Politicians and other controling parties (IE: religious groups) that it's all the fault of tv, games.. etc. And they all seem to say that "the people" demand stricter gun laws, that "the people" demand censoring things the politicians deem immoral or offensive.
Hmm... I'm one of "the people" and no one asked me of my opinion, hell no one asked any of my friends, neighbors or coworkers for what they demand either. So who is it that's REALLY "demanding" all this? I really doubt it's "the people".
They didn't have to light up their sun. It might have been a probe they sent out milliuons of years ago that reached it's destination and proceeded to "spray the lighter fluid". Mabey an experiment, mabey a way to draw attention so that someone out there will point a radio telescope at the event and hear the history of a dieing race?
Or it could jus be a natural event. But hey! we can all fantasize a bit.
Well if we're streatching things this far. Mabey they f-ed up royally and knew they were about to become extinct. As a last act of good will they decided to disperse all of their worldly knowledge as well as a warning on wht NOT to do to the rest of the universe. What better way is there to get your message noticed? A universal "You've got mail!" (tm).
Considering how often a rockets "decide" to blow up during take off.. I'd rather have someone burry the stuff in my back yard.. then shoot it over my head and have it rain down on me.
Mabey when they find a 100% reliable method of geting it up there... but right now I'd rather not have them try.
The quality, performance and price varies from one service to another. I've heard horror stories of ADSL and Cable modem suppliers. Personally though I have ADSL service by USWest in Boulder,CO and the service is outstanding.
For $29.95 month I have 512Kbit connection that is on all the time. I run a Q3Arena server on it,a web site and ftp site and in the last year had only 2 outages each lasting less then 2 hours.
I don't doubt that many people ARE having problems. DSL is a relatively new technology, in that telcos are just now begining to deploy it. But I'm sure that as the service spreads and they gain more experiance in this it will improve signifigantly. (Same goes for cable modems).
Think back to the early days of Dial-up.. it was hell back then too.
And we thought that a Nuclear Power Plant melt down is bad. I woudn't want to be anywhere near an anti-matter storage tank if the containment mechanism broke.
Mabey you can't go faster then the speed of light. (But that's assuming we understand that part of physics.. which is still in much debate) But by the same token you can "FOLD" space time. (IE wormhole). This would alow you to travel large distances in very little time. Your velocity would be well below lightspeed.. but the distance would have "folded" from light-years.. to light-minutes.
Now if someone came up with a device that could fold space directly infront of a space ship.. you could effectively travel faster then light..
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Well if you read the README file that comes with the drivers, it states that the tar ball comes with precompiled modules. A precompiled module may not work with other distributions and that is why they stated RH 5.2/6.0. (Notice 2 different tar balls)
There is NOTHING stoping you from compiling the sources yourself for another distro.
Ex-Nt-User
God created man in his image. The Bible does not say God created man in his own image.. but limited his capabilities. It seems to me that an all powerfull and all knowing God may have instilled in us the capabilities of creation. (AKA: creating life) among many other things that we will learn some time in the future.
Sure the ultra religious people will deny this, in the same maner as they deny evolution. But the majority will accept an answer that allows for both religion and science.
Ex-Nt-User
The bible describes creation as:
1. Heavens And Earth --> Big Bang
2. Land --> Formation of continents
3. Plants --> Evolution Step #1
4. Fish --> Evolution Step #2
5. Animals--> Evolution Step #3
6. Man --> Evolution Step #4
He did all this in 7 days..but who is to say that 7 "God" days is not actually hundreds of millions of "man" years?
On top of that if the religeous people here truely don't believe that their all powerfull God could not have created man by planed evolution are surely short changing his abilities. After all he is all knowing and all powerfull.
The point being is that Creationism and Evolutionism are not directly at odds with each other. What is at odds is the conclusion many people get from evolution and that is that we must have come from nothing. However life came from somewhere.. the only answer is spontaneous (ala the belief of most atheists) or from God.
Ex-Nt-User.
PS. I'm actually atheist by belief not because science has proven that God does NOT exist. And to me, religion has certainly not proven he does.
A Summary of 64bit specific Benefits:
1. 64 Bit Memory and IO
Merced can access memory and IO Buses with 64 bit width. That is it can transfer 64bits with 1 atomic operation. On i32 it would take 2 seperate atomic operations to transfer 64bits.
(I believe the PII has a 64bit memory bus/but only 32bit adressing)
2. Virtual/Real memory access. With 64bits Merced can acces as much as 2^64 bits of ram or virtual memory. (i32 can only access 2^32 bits of memory)
Ex-Nt-User
Considering how MS likes to hype all ot their OS upgrades a 2 years in advance, I'd guess their progress for Merced is at least 3 years away from completion. Of course MS products are always a tear late.. so I figure 2004.
On a serious note I think that like all things Intel IA-64 will be hyped to all hell, and every one will need one. If MS is more then 6 months late with a 64 bit version of NT and Linux for IA-64 is out with the release of Merced I think MS stands a good chance of being left in the dust.
Ex-Nt-User
The "industry" standard that Maxtor is refering to is the HD industry. (Seagate,Quantum..etc) The truth of the matter is that the common consumer thinks a Megabyte is 10^6. And a Kilobyte is 10^3 (since they only really been tought that a "kilo" means 1000 etc..)
I don't know which HD manufacturer was first,
but they decided to use the 10^6 definition to make their drives "seem" bigger to the joe consumer, thus atempting to give themselves a market advantage, it worked. And the other HD manufacturers had to folow.
Ex-Nt-User
Because unlike things like Word processors this stuff is only used by a a few thousand users and takes years of development to create.
It's simple economics. If it takes two programmers 1 year at $50,000 per programer per year the cost of production is: $100,000 If the product is only going to be bought by 1000 people it would have to cost $100 a copy just to break even. If it was bought by a 100,000 people.. well it would still propably cost 100 bucks.. but it would make a heafty profit.
The point is if the cost of production is high and the number of prospective buyers is low then the purchase price will have to be high.
Ex-Nt-User
For more information about this check out Intel's spec sheets.
Ex-Nt-User
Load does indeed increase the temperature of the CPU. At least with Intel Pentium II and higher CPU. The CPU has internal voltage regulation and control circuitry. When the CPU is executing halt, nop or any other instruction that does not require bus/memory access or is in suspended/low power mode it actually consumes less power. Less power consumed == lower temperature. Whether there is a noticeable temperature difference between Windows being in idle mode and Linux in idle mode is, however, questionable.
Ex-Nt-User
Well technically bullets kill people..well unless you throw the gun at the guy and crack his skull ;)
Sorry for being off topic here but if a tree falls in the forest and kills someone.. what actually killed that person..?
Ex-Nt-User
And the web is a perfect example of this. If Universal doesn't want people to be able to look at their stuff without going through their website then they shouldn't put it out on the internet PERIOD.
a der.gif"? It's not a "Link".. but if you type it into your URL window it will "skip" their main site.
If they win this suit what next? Will they sue me if I tell (ala voice) someone the direct URL to an image on their site too? What's stoping me from instead of linking saing check out "www.universal-pictures.com/images/tippytoplefthe
Please if you have a problem with how the web works.. then don't use it.
Ex-Nt-User
Why should a KDE/Gnome VCL do Win32's right thing?
Honestly, programmer lazyness... I'd prefer to be able to just do a recompile between a Windoze version and Linux version.
If making a source compatible VCL for GNOME/KDE would indeed be a hack (and not "The Right Thing") I could do with some incompatibilities. Especially on new projects where I could do the #ifdef thing. And have the incompatibilities on my mind when writing the code.
With old projects it's a different story, I have at least 6 apps that would be worth porting. But I wouldn't have the time to invest in modifing them to compile for Linux. Thus the usefulness of such a tool would decline for me.
Ex-Nt-User
ps. Just for the record I would prefer a VCL that would do the right thing.
The VCL is a rather complex wrapper around windows common controls. I really believe that it would be possible to modify VCL to wrap around GNOME or KDE controls. Thus you could use the "C++ Builder for Linux" with either widget set.
I've actually considered writing something like this for my own use. (IE could pretty easily port my windoze apps over to KDE or GNOME)
Most of the code in my stuff is standard C++ and the only problems I've had porting the stuff is GUI development. I'd really like to be able to drag and drop GUI widgets in the manner Builder does it on Windows.
Ex-Nt-User
I'm stuck writing code for NT at work. I'm working on some Linux code but it's not officially sanctioned. I'm doing it to prove to management it can be done and work as well if not better then NT.
Most of the code is done in C++ Builder because the GUI development is extremely fast and flexible. If Borland would release source compatible VCL and C++ Builder for Linux I don't think my management could argue againts doing everything in Linux. On top of that I could just re-compile all my apps to Linux in not time.
Ex-Nt-User
working on a platform with a somewhat obtuse API and dealing with it's inconsistencies. At the same time he can make his job MUCH easier by using Microsoft's wonderful classes, thereby tying his soul forever a Windows platform.
A Class Library can always be duplicated (aka the whole QT thing) so that it may be possible in the future to recompile your windows application under linux by using a API compatible FreeMFC.
Ex-Nt-User
Here are the facts:
1. Cable and telcos have a government given permission to lay cabling on YOUR property.
2. Cable and telco companies are using these government given rights to deploy high-speed/broadband services to their customers.
3. AOL is complaining because they can not get their hands onto that wiring owned by telcos and cable companies.
4. AOL also can't get rights to deploy their OWN wiring to these customers. (Cable/telcos have a monopoly here)
5. AT&T says shutup AOL you should have bought a cable provider.
Here's the problem:
1. If AOL buys a cable provider then they will have a monopoly on service in the cable company's service area. (AT&T will have monopoly in their service area.. etc etc). This is bad for the consumer.
Solutions?:
1. Allow AOL or any other ISP to have land rights to lay their own high-speed infrastructure in your back yard. (I don't think that will go over well with most homeowners)
2. Ignore it. Stick it to AOL and assume that the telco companies (xDSL) and Cable companies with overlapping service areas will compete.
3. Regulate. Have the cable/telco only provide a basic IP service (for a fee) and then allow AOL or another ISP to handle the e-mail, news, etc services. (Also allow the telco/cable co to provide these services)
What's the best / fairest solution in reality?
IMHO #3 would be the best for the consumer, but only if the regulation was done well enough and for a very tiny cost to both the consumer and the service and cable provider. The fact is that #3 is what modem users are doing right now and it works quite well.. so why change it? You pay for the phone line and for the ISP seperately. Many telco's have their own ISP service (USWest), but allow you to choose any you want. But that's just my opinion.
Ex-Nt-User
Yeah.. but do we REALLY forget things or are they just temporarily lost there somewhere in the void. We've all had those exerainces where we "forgot" something at the moment we need it.. and then it just comes back to us when we least expect it again.
Ex-NT-User
I think if you're going to try something like this it should NOT be flat fee based. I think the author deserves a fair share of the profit from the sale of the printed version of this book.
I don't know what is a fair value, but I think at least 15% is a start. (15% of the profit, not the cost of the book itself) I think that would encourage the author to do a REAL good job since the quality of the book will be reflected in how much $$$ they make.
Ex-Nt-User
I don't think US "citizens" (as in majority of people) are overly-sensitive. I think it's the few with the $$$ and Agendas that are trying to convince US that we SHOULD be overly-sensitive.
Why is it that the majority of people that I've talked to all think that what happaned in Littleton is a tragedy, but non of them think that censorship or blaming tv, video games, etc is the answer nor "the right thing" to do. Yet we're still being bombarded by the Politicians and other controling parties (IE: religious groups) that it's all the fault of tv, games.. etc. And they all seem to say that "the people" demand stricter gun laws, that "the people" demand censoring things the politicians deem immoral or offensive.
Hmm... I'm one of "the people" and no one asked me of my opinion, hell no one asked any of my friends, neighbors or coworkers for what they demand either. So who is it that's REALLY "demanding" all this? I really doubt it's "the people".
Ex-Nt-User
They didn't have to light up their sun. It might have been a probe they sent out milliuons of years ago that reached it's destination and proceeded to "spray the lighter fluid". Mabey an experiment, mabey a way to draw attention so that someone out there will point a radio telescope at the event and hear the history of a dieing race?
Or it could jus be a natural event. But hey! we can all fantasize a bit.
Ex-Nt-User
Well if we're streatching things this far. Mabey they f-ed up royally and knew they were about to become extinct. As a last act of good will they decided to disperse all of their worldly knowledge as well as a warning on wht NOT to do to the rest of the universe. What better way is there to get your message noticed? A universal "You've got mail!" (tm).
Ex-Nt-User
Considering how often a rockets "decide" to blow up during take off.. I'd rather have someone burry the stuff in my back yard.. then shoot it over my head and have it rain down on me.
Mabey when they find a 100% reliable method of geting it up there... but right now I'd rather not have them try.
Ex-Nt-User
The quality, performance and price varies from one service to another. I've heard horror stories of ADSL and Cable modem suppliers. Personally though I have ADSL service by USWest in Boulder,CO and the service is outstanding.
,a web site and ftp site and in the last year had only 2 outages each lasting less then 2 hours.
For $29.95 month I have 512Kbit connection that is on all the time. I run a Q3Arena server on it
I don't doubt that many people ARE having problems. DSL is a relatively new technology, in that telcos are just now begining to deploy it. But I'm sure that as the service spreads and they gain more experiance in this it will improve signifigantly. (Same goes for cable modems).
Think back to the early days of Dial-up.. it was hell back then too.
Ex-Nt-Users
And we thought that a Nuclear Power Plant melt down is bad. I woudn't want to be anywhere near an anti-matter storage tank if the containment mechanism broke.
Ex-Nt-User
Mabey you can't go faster then the speed of light. (But that's assuming we understand that part of physics.. which is still in much debate) But by the same token you can "FOLD" space time. (IE wormhole). This would alow you to travel large distances in very little time. Your velocity would be well below lightspeed.. but the distance would have "folded" from light-years.. to light-minutes.
Now if someone came up with a device that could fold space directly infront of a space ship.. you could effectively travel faster then light..