How about spamming them back. I have not actually tried it yet, but couldn't you create millions of bogus user ids in their database with a simple perl script. That would make their data worthless. I already use junkbuster, so there is no problem for me, but there are millions of people who don't have a clue what a cookie is.
What happened almost to X11? I suspect that ignorance about exactly things like these is what makes people dismiss FS as a luny. Many newcomers like me do not know the history. So tell me please.
Der groesste Schuft im ganzen Land, das ist und bleibt der Denunziant.
And please do not fall over each other e-mailing my boss that I told you off, you little snitches. I hope some day somebody like you screws you like you do. How many notches have you got in your keyboard?
I use jikes only for the development cycle, for production it is always javac. I did not look into the matter, but I noticed that my application consumes much more memory if compiled with jikes. Its also somewhat slower. Additionally jikes compiled classes break my obfuscator. Anyway for quick compile/test/debug cycles you can't beat jikes.
Is your point for or against the need for templates? Uhhmm ?!
>All sorts of stuff, check out STL or blitz matrix/math library with fortran performance). Shit, if you're really sick you can write sin functions with templates [that are evaluated during compile time] float x =sin and have it replaced with float x = 0.39073... at compile time
I see where you're coming from. 8-/ Makes me really crave for this feature. Maybe next life!
> 1. No adequate generic programming support. I can write you containers with static type checking. Easy peasy! What else are you using templates for?
> 2. OO Obsession. I would not call it obsession, but clarity. Anyway, if you don't like classes, just put everything in static methods and you got your "good" old structured programming. Really don't know why you want this. 8-/
> 3. No access to system programming. Use JNI and do whatever you want. Java is meant to be cross-platform, remember!
> 4. Crappy text handling abilities. Use ORO. ORO is your friend!
I don't expect this discussion to go anywhere anyway.;)
double clicking on the jar file is of course realized in a platform dependant way. You are right here. You would need to access the registry for that, which could be done when you start the application for the first time. On the other it is not very hard to create a shortcut to the jar on configure that.
I just want to comment on the single archive issue. We distribute our application as one JAR file, which contains all the classes, documentation (HTML), images, whathaveyou. You can start it like that: java -jar foo.jar that's it. We don't even distribute an installer because it's so simple. Of course we assume Java is installed already, but that is not very hard either, especially on windoze.
of course that is possible, Clear could raise fees which would be bad:( well, let's hope it won't come to that. I signed the petition, just to throw some shit in the fan.
There are a couple of reasons, why I think you are right. First of all I believe consumers will not suffer in any way, **PROVIDED** Telecom does not change the terms it just proposed: 1. they will NOT disconnect you while you are on 2. there will be no prioritization which could not be done even without the new prefix, because emergency calls already have the ability to kick out other calls to get through (so on that point they are already trying to bullshit the people), and Telecom could as easily prioritize the existing ISP number as it could the new one (just makes it a bit easier for them) 3. AFAIK, there are no lower quality lines they could route data calls through, they don't have some old shoddy lines they could use for data, it is all the same stuff 4. service could be degraded if they route you with lots of detours, BUT that makes it only more expensive for them, so no danger here
So with no harm to internet users that I can see, your explanation is the only thing that makes sense to me.
-- I don't work for Telecom either, in fact I don't work for anybody but myself!;)
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How about spamming them back. I have not actually tried it yet, but couldn't you create millions of bogus user ids in their database with a simple perl script. That would make their data worthless.
I already use junkbuster, so there is no problem for me, but there are millions of people who don't have a clue what a cookie is.
What happened almost to X11? I suspect that ignorance about exactly things like these is what makes people dismiss FS as a luny. Many newcomers like me do not know the history. So tell me please.
Der groesste Schuft im ganzen Land, das ist und bleibt der Denunziant.
And please do not fall over each other e-mailing my boss that I told you off, you little snitches. I hope some day somebody like you screws you like you do. How many notches have you got in your keyboard?
Thomas
I use jikes only for the development cycle, for production it is always javac. I did not look into the matter, but I noticed that my application consumes much more memory if compiled with jikes. Its also somewhat slower. Additionally jikes compiled classes break my obfuscator. Anyway for quick compile/test/debug cycles you can't beat jikes.
just my 2c
Thomas
Uhhh ... I guess my brain was not properly activated on this one. Back under my rock! :)
Is your point for or against the need for templates? Uhhmm ?!
/math library with fortran performance). Shit, if you're really sick you can write sin functions with templates [that are evaluated during compile time]
>All sorts of stuff, check out STL or blitz matrix
float x =sin and have it replaced with
float x = 0.39073... at compile time
I see where you're coming from. 8-/ Makes me really crave for this feature. Maybe next life!
> 1. No adequate generic programming support.
;)
I can write you containers with static type checking. Easy peasy! What else are you using templates for?
> 2. OO Obsession.
I would not call it obsession, but clarity. Anyway, if you don't like classes, just put everything in static methods and you got your "good" old structured programming. Really don't know why you want this. 8-/
> 3. No access to system programming.
Use JNI and do whatever you want. Java is meant to be cross-platform, remember!
> 4. Crappy text handling abilities.
Use ORO. ORO is your friend!
I don't expect this discussion to go anywhere anyway.
double clicking on the jar file is of course realized in a platform dependant way. You are right here. You would need to access the registry for that, which could be done when you start the application for the first time. On the other it is not very hard to create a shortcut to the jar on configure that.
I just want to comment on the single archive issue. We distribute our application as one JAR file, which contains all the classes, documentation (HTML), images, whathaveyou. You can start it like that: java -jar foo.jar
that's it. We don't even distribute an installer because it's so simple. Of course we assume Java is installed already, but that is not very hard either, especially on windoze.
of course that is possible, Clear could raise fees which would be bad :( well, let's hope it won't come to that. I signed the petition, just to throw some shit in the fan.
There are a couple of reasons, why I think you are right. First of all I believe consumers will not suffer in any way, **PROVIDED** Telecom does not change the terms it just proposed:
;)
1. they will NOT disconnect you while you are on
2. there will be no prioritization which could not be done even without the new prefix, because emergency calls already have the ability to kick out other calls to get through (so on that point they are already trying to bullshit the people), and Telecom could as easily prioritize the existing ISP number as it could the new one (just makes it a bit easier for them)
3. AFAIK, there are no lower quality lines they could route data calls through, they don't have some old shoddy lines they could use for data, it is all the same stuff
4. service could be degraded if they route you with lots of detours, BUT that makes it only more expensive for them, so no danger here
So with no harm to internet users that I can see, your explanation is the only thing that makes sense to me.
-- I don't work for Telecom either, in fact I don't work for anybody but myself!