If you're doing testing, everything that *can* run as root needs to be tested *as* running as if it's root at some point during testing. You're the one questioning my ability as a programmer?
Further more, the Android security model isn't even close to perfect under the hood, Even if the user is the only user that can go as root, that still doesn't keep apps from doing awful things in the background.
Also, if your device ships with some feature X, and you don't give any sort of software support for feature X, then you're fucking it up. If feature X is so impossible to support for most users, don't ship it.
I am a programmer, but my language of choice lately seems to be PHP. So I'm not banking on my taste or ability as any sort of authority.
If everything *can* run as root, then what might break? What the hell becomes a massive regression?
Free software isn't free as in beer when you've got to support it commercially. Have you ever worked with other human beings before? Do you know that people who really don't want to be power users exist and most of them are buying computing devices?
It takes more effort for the vendor to attempt to lock these devices down than it would to leave them open.
Aside from supporting the functionality, making sure all the APIs work nicely, having customer support in case the whole thing goes wrong...
I see, you just wanted to rant irrelevantly about open source, and thought this was a reasonable place to do it. Be gone, troll.
No, I *love* open source. Open source isn't the same movement as Free Software movement. The FSF had decades to get this right, but never did. It wasn't even on their radar.
that's also not to mention that the kind of user interaction that you'd get by featuring freedom is either more modals(whee, everyone remember UAC in Vista?), or having the entire device run as root or...
The UX tradeoff isn't worth it. Have everything place nice in user land or get the fuck off my phone.
On a tablet or MID, there's less incentive to make things ultra stable, but iOS is still a nice place for most users to live.
This is, quite frankly, a false tradeoff. You can get the same stability, usability and security in several ways (like not running as root by default, like requiring extra steps to become root as with Android, etc), WITHOUT taking freedom away from users who would want it.
No, it's not.
That kind of interaction isn't free. Not as in beer and not as in freedom. You've now got to devote resources to supporting these features, documenting these features and helping users when they fuck up. Granted, yes, you could just leave users out in the cold when everything goes all pear shaped... However, that's kind of psychotic.
The freedom you want isn't free for the vendor. Not free as in beer and depending on device driver agreements, etc. may not be free as in speech. Granted that's a separate issue all together.
The "Free as in freedom" crowd had 30 years to bring UI and UX to this stage but no one really cared enough to actually do it. Instead we got everyone disagreeing with each other about KDE or Gnome.
Because the things you can do in user land are far more interesting to a lot of people that it is worth the trade offs in terms of stability, usability and security. Being able to customize the shit out of springboard, the keyboard, etc are really nice and fun but the charm of the OS isnt that I feel nice and fuzzy being in idiot mode, it's that I really don't feel the need to hack at it.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to customize the shit out of ios and run non App Store apps but I generally don't feel I need it to make the thing a nice place to live.
What's the libertarian solution to global warming?
What's the libertarian solution to child labor?
What's the libertarian solution to the lopsided inequalities of those with wealth versus those who don't? How do you solve a problem like scrip? or problems like exhaustion from forced 10-12 hour days with no days off?
The problem with trying to explain economics to libertarians is that despite being shown they're wrong, they persist.
I find it more useful to call a libertarian a useless fucking moron rather than debate them. Until they have new ideas, at least the ad hominem is cathartic.
Simply put, libertarians aren't serious. They're ideological. American history is full of libertarianism in action and also libertarianism failing.
Systems? Plural? Linux seems to do fine on 3 or 4 year old hardware. My MacBook from 2009 is actually faster with mavericks than it was with snow leopard.
You're bitching about windows.:) leave other innocent OSes out of this.
Yeah but the number of people who do that are rounding errors compared to the overall user base of computing devices.
Otoh I wouldn't use a dual socket Xeon machine with several beefy GPUs for writing, browsing the web and low intensity work.
The absolute truism about what a tablet can do is more about battery life, peripherals and size than it is about raw computing power. We've reached a point where a nexus 7, an iPad or a surface has enough juice for an average persons wants. Note: not needs. Wants. While there are arguments to be made abut the relative usefulness of the software available for these devices, the fact is, they are the future and meeting the wants of consumers.
Isn't there a good case for prison reform on some level though?
I agree that what was done should be illegal, but, I don't think that our prison system treats prisoners like people, and haven't for a long time. Even well before the privatization of prison.
However, given that Windows 8 is also about touch screens working nicely with mice, I'm not surprised they are experimenting with changing the way mice work.
Yes, if there was changes to the way mouse handling works.
Apparently Windows 8.1 includes changes to how the mice/trackballs/etc work. Also, there's more than one way to interact with the mouse via the set of APIs available to windows developers. Some games exhibit odd mouse behaviors, some don't.
This is a huge downside to the touted "backwards compatibility." Sure you're supporting a lot of apps, but a lot of those apps certainly do things the wrong way.
More than likely, they'll archive all the data for future possible uses, wipe the drives and auction off the machine.
In essence, the money would be locked up unless someone else had access to that wallet.
In so far as I know, the federal government doesn't auction off digital goods like iTunes or Steam purchases like they do with seized goods. Why they auction this stuff off is because land is finite and hosting piles of seized cars, boats, computers, etc. takes up space needlessly.
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Because as soon as a root exploit is released it's often used to jailbreak.
Which given how far and few between jailbreaks are...
Uh.
If you're doing testing, everything that *can* run as root needs to be tested *as* running as if it's root at some point during testing. You're the one questioning my ability as a programmer?
Further more, the Android security model isn't even close to perfect under the hood, Even if the user is the only user that can go as root, that still doesn't keep apps from doing awful things in the background.
Also, if your device ships with some feature X, and you don't give any sort of software support for feature X, then you're fucking it up. If feature X is so impossible to support for most users, don't ship it.
I am a programmer, but my language of choice lately seems to be PHP. So I'm not banking on my taste or ability as any sort of authority.
If everything *can* run as root, then what might break? What the hell becomes a massive regression?
Free software isn't free as in beer when you've got to support it commercially. Have you ever worked with other human beings before? Do you know that people who really don't want to be power users exist and most of them are buying computing devices?
It takes more effort for the vendor to attempt to lock these devices down than it would to leave them open.
Aside from supporting the functionality, making sure all the APIs work nicely, having customer support in case the whole thing goes wrong...
I see, you just wanted to rant irrelevantly about open source, and thought this was a reasonable place to do it. Be gone, troll.
No, I *love* open source. Open source isn't the same movement as Free Software movement. The FSF had decades to get this right, but never did. It wasn't even on their radar.
that's also not to mention that the kind of user interaction that you'd get by featuring freedom is either more modals(whee, everyone remember UAC in Vista?), or having the entire device run as root or ...
The UX tradeoff isn't worth it. Have everything place nice in user land or get the fuck off my phone.
On a tablet or MID, there's less incentive to make things ultra stable, but iOS is still a nice place for most users to live.
See what I mean!?
It's like some sort of bat shit crazy pseudo-economic, pseudo-legal and pseudo-historical madlibs.
I think the only thing this post is missing is calling me a "statist."
This is, quite frankly, a false tradeoff. You can get the same stability, usability and security in several ways (like not running as root by default, like requiring extra steps to become root as with Android, etc), WITHOUT taking freedom away from users who would want it.
No, it's not.
That kind of interaction isn't free. Not as in beer and not as in freedom. You've now got to devote resources to supporting these features, documenting these features and helping users when they fuck up. Granted, yes, you could just leave users out in the cold when everything goes all pear shaped... However, that's kind of psychotic.
The freedom you want isn't free for the vendor. Not free as in beer and depending on device driver agreements, etc. may not be free as in speech. Granted that's a separate issue all together.
The "Free as in freedom" crowd had 30 years to bring UI and UX to this stage but no one really cared enough to actually do it. Instead we got everyone disagreeing with each other about KDE or Gnome.
You ask if child labor is a problem and yet you don't know why you're not being taken seriously?
I revise my statement. It's not just that you're a moron it's that you have no heart.
Because the things you can do in user land are far more interesting to a lot of people that it is worth the trade offs in terms of stability, usability and security. Being able to customize the shit out of springboard, the keyboard, etc are really nice and fun but the charm of the OS isnt that I feel nice and fuzzy being in idiot mode, it's that I really don't feel the need to hack at it.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to customize the shit out of ios and run non App Store apps but I generally don't feel I need it to make the thing a nice place to live.
What's the libertarian solution to global warming?
What's the libertarian solution to child labor?
What's the libertarian solution to the lopsided inequalities of those with wealth versus those who don't? How do you solve a problem like scrip? or problems like exhaustion from forced 10-12 hour days with no days off?
Education?
Food and product safety?
Healthcare costs?
The problem with trying to explain economics to libertarians is that despite being shown they're wrong, they persist.
I find it more useful to call a libertarian a useless fucking moron rather than debate them. Until they have new ideas, at least the ad hominem is cathartic.
Simply put, libertarians aren't serious. They're ideological. American history is full of libertarianism in action and also libertarianism failing.
You mean like with current GSM setups? If the operator doesn't like you they can just zap your IMEI or any other identifiers.
Let's dial back the conspiracy bullshit.
My first thought is, is this breaking apps that aren't crappy flashlight apps that are harvesting data from users.
this is seriously understated.
DIY electronics? DIY mechanical engineering? Chemistry? Sure.
Nuclear reactor?
uhm.
no.
Might want to turn the volume down then.
Systems? Plural? Linux seems to do fine on 3 or 4 year old hardware. My MacBook from 2009 is actually faster with mavericks than it was with snow leopard.
You're bitching about windows. :) leave other innocent OSes out of this.
Yeah but the number of people who do that are rounding errors compared to the overall user base of computing devices.
Otoh I wouldn't use a dual socket Xeon machine with several beefy GPUs for writing, browsing the web and low intensity work.
The absolute truism about what a tablet can do is more about battery life, peripherals and size than it is about raw computing power. We've reached a point where a nexus 7, an iPad or a surface has enough juice for an average persons wants. Note: not needs. Wants. While there are arguments to be made abut the relative usefulness of the software available for these devices, the fact is, they are the future and meeting the wants of consumers.
Isn't there a good case for prison reform on some level though?
I agree that what was done should be illegal, but, I don't think that our prison system treats prisoners like people, and haven't for a long time. Even well before the privatization of prison.
So you'd have the item on.
Buy it.
Then go home and wait for it to be delivered? ...
Why not just take it home?
Depends what you're protesting.
If you're protesting the NSA's overreach or for gay rights or for any number of legitimate issues we face to this day.
Sometimes we don't need a revolution, sometimes we just need to bitch loud enough to change thingrs.
I know right!
However, given that Windows 8 is also about touch screens working nicely with mice, I'm not surprised they are experimenting with changing the way mice work.
Yes, if there was changes to the way mouse handling works.
Apparently Windows 8.1 includes changes to how the mice/trackballs/etc work. Also, there's more than one way to interact with the mouse via the set of APIs available to windows developers. Some games exhibit odd mouse behaviors, some don't.
This is a huge downside to the touted "backwards compatibility." Sure you're supporting a lot of apps, but a lot of those apps certainly do things the wrong way.
More than likely, they'll archive all the data for future possible uses, wipe the drives and auction off the machine.
In essence, the money would be locked up unless someone else had access to that wallet.
In so far as I know, the federal government doesn't auction off digital goods like iTunes or Steam purchases like they do with seized goods. Why they auction this stuff off is because land is finite and hosting piles of seized cars, boats, computers, etc. takes up space needlessly.
Of course they're not illegal. Bit coins are Disney dollars that are useful. The FBI just cares about the drugs and attempted murder.
two generations of Mac pros is kind of vague. :) Last gen mac pro came out in 2010.
mac pros as of early 2008 are supported by Mavericks.