Aha, I see the point. In the next month the warden might pick the order: 1, 67, 3, 33. In that month, prisoner #67 would learn that prisoner #1 had visited the room, and prisoner #33 would learn that prisoner #3 had visited the room.
And the best part is that #3 would learn that #2 had visited room!! And If he happens to be chosen in the day 2 of their calendar, he would transmit its knowledge to the next one...
So there are 3 people than can transmit about #2: #2 (himself), #67 and #3
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I am skeptical of your solution. Each prisoner can learn that prisoner N-1 has been in the room. How does any prisoner N learn that prisoner N-2, N-3, N-4 have been in the room? Tell me what happens if they are called in the order: 1, 2, 67, 4, 33. What does #67 see on day 3 (lamp on or off), and what information does he learn? What about #33 on day 5?
#67 sees lamp ON because #2 knows that #2 (himself) was in the room, so #67 marks #2 in his own calendar and turns the light OFF, because he doesn't know about #3...
Similar with #33 on day 5, he sees the lamp ON, marks #4 and turns it off...
I would add that if N-1 is not valid for #1 if the numbers are from 1 to 100... so the numbers must go from 0 to 99 and you use a "mod 100" algebra (99+1=0, 0-1=99)
There, you can find this text:
The space voyage begins, and Dave Bowman - Zarathustra - becomes the central figure. Dave's colleague, Frank Poole, symbolizes the rope dancer (tightrope walker), a character in an important parable in Zarathustra. One clue to Poole's allegorical identity is that the last nine of the ten letters of [F]rank Poole are an anagrammatical rearrangement of the last nine of the ten letters of "[W]alk on rope"; another clue is that Frank, like the rope dancer, is killed by an entity symbolizing God who sneaks up behind him; a third clue is that Zarathustra (Bowman) picks up the rope dancer's (Poole's) body and later disposes of it. Next, Zarathustra and God clash, and Zarathustra kills God (Bowman shuts down Hal's brain). The words "Beyond the Infinite" flash on to the screen. You undoubtedly gave those words a spatial meaning, but Kubrick gives them a temporal meaning. "Beyond" means after, and "the infinite" is one of theologian Paul Tillich's names for God. "Beyond the infinite" means "after God " - after the death of God (Hal).
It was developed at the school where I studied (Telecomm. Engineering School, Madrid: etsit.upm.es) and some people I admire contributed at it.
Isn't it a project to be proud of?
Hope you like it
"NEAR to fly"
The human being has less than twice the number of genes of a fly, so we are are very near to the fly...;)
Seriously, the number of genes doesn't mean very much...
Why search for E.T. intelligence?
If you are not happy with most of the human intelligence... (I agree with you in that;) )
why search for a better intelligence ouside this planet?
I think we can make a powerful AI with many parallel distributed contributors...
The unused cycles could be used to train Artificial Neural Nets instead of processing signal from a big telescope...
Of course, there are other nice projects like Folding@home than can be very good too.
Well, some "friends?" of mine think than I was surpassed by most machines...;)
Seriously, a human brain contains about 10^10 neurons with about 10^4 synapses each...
If you want to do real-time video input recognition + sound recognition + understanding... (I mean, some higher capabilities)
dont try with a simple PC...
What kind of marketing lie is that?
I think that the only way we could have AI (I mean with a similar power than human intelligence) would require at least 10^7 Megabytes of memory and about 10^14 Instructions per second...
And it could be done today!!
But that would require many of the computers from the Internet (at least about 100000 Ghz-PCs)... That is the direction of The InterSAINT Project.
Yeah!
That's the aim of the InterSAINT Project!
Imagine Artificial Neural Networks algorithms running in millions of distributed computers. They would learn from different data inputs to achieve good goals.
There's also a mailing list for the project.
NOTE: The power of all the computers connected to the Internet could now be very near to the power of one human brain (in terms of speed, memory,... ).
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Aha, I see the point. In the next month the warden might pick the order: 1, 67, 3, 33. In that month, prisoner #67 would learn that prisoner #1 had visited the room, and prisoner #33 would learn that prisoner #3 had visited the room.
And the best part is that #3 would learn that #2 had visited room!!
And If he happens to be chosen in the day 2 of their calendar, he would transmit its knowledge to the next one...
So there are 3 people than can transmit about #2: #2 (himself), #67 and #3
Why such an extrange answer?
r u crazy?
Explain your answer...
I am skeptical of your solution. Each prisoner can learn that prisoner N-1 has been in the room. How does any prisoner N learn that prisoner N-2, N-3, N-4 have been in the room? Tell me what happens if they are called in the order: 1, 2, 67, 4, 33. What does #67 see on day 3 (lamp on or off), and what information does he learn? What about #33 on day 5?
#67 sees lamp ON because #2 knows that #2 (himself) was in the room, so #67 marks #2 in his own calendar and turns the light OFF, because he doesn't know about #3...
Similar with #33 on day 5, he sees the lamp ON, marks #4 and turns it off...
I would add that if N-1 is not valid for #1 if the numbers are from 1 to 100... so the numbers must go from 0 to 99 and you use a "mod 100" algebra (99+1=0, 0-1=99)
Google solves it again... giving us this link: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT 2001
There, you can find this text:
The space voyage begins, and Dave Bowman - Zarathustra - becomes the central figure. Dave's colleague, Frank Poole, symbolizes the rope dancer (tightrope walker), a character in an important parable in Zarathustra. One clue to Poole's allegorical identity is that the last nine of the ten letters of [F]rank Poole are an anagrammatical rearrangement of the last nine of the ten letters of "[W]alk on rope"; another clue is that Frank, like the rope dancer, is killed by an entity symbolizing God who sneaks up behind him; a third clue is that Zarathustra (Bowman) picks up the rope dancer's (Poole's) body and later disposes of it. Next, Zarathustra and God clash, and Zarathustra kills God (Bowman shuts down Hal's brain). The words "Beyond the Infinite" flash on to the screen. You undoubtedly gave those words a spatial meaning, but Kubrick gives them a temporal meaning. "Beyond" means after, and "the infinite" is one of theologian Paul Tillich's names for God. "Beyond the infinite" means "after God " - after the death of God (Hal).
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ACid
It will surely meet all your needs.
The ISABEL CSCW application is a group communication tool for the Internet
Summary of features:
free of charge
widely used (since July 1993)
yeah!, works under Linux (recommended RH 7) and there are versions for Solaris & IRIX
Not only Teleconferencing (Video + Audio), also Shared WhiteBoard, Slides, Chat, ...
Several distinguishing features over standard videoconferencing
ISABEL was also mentioned here a long time ago: Ask Slashdot: Can Linux do Video Conferencing?
It was developed at the school where I studied (Telecomm. Engineering School, Madrid: etsit.upm.es) and some people I admire contributed at it.
Isn't it a project to be proud of?
Hope you like it
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ACid
"NEAR to fly" The human being has less than twice the number of genes of a fly, so we are are very near to the fly... ;)
Seriously, the number of genes doesn't mean very much...
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ACid
Why search for E.T. intelligence? If you are not happy with most of the human intelligence... (I agree with you in that ;) )
why search for a better intelligence ouside this planet?
I think we can make a powerful AI with many parallel distributed contributors...
The unused cycles could be used to train Artificial Neural Nets instead of processing signal from a big telescope...
Of course, there are other nice projects like Folding@home than can be very good too.
--
ACid
Well, some "friends?" of mine think than I was surpassed by most machines... ;)
Seriously, a human brain contains about 10^10 neurons with about 10^4 synapses each... If you want to do real-time video input recognition + sound recognition + understanding... (I mean, some higher capabilities) dont try with a simple PC...
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ACid
What kind of marketing lie is that?
I think that the only way we could have AI (I mean with a similar power than human intelligence) would require at least 10^7 Megabytes of memory and about 10^14 Instructions per second... And it could be done today!! But that would require many of the computers from the Internet (at least about 100000 Ghz-PCs)... That is the direction of The InterSAINT Project.
--
ACid
Yeah! That's the aim of the InterSAINT Project! Imagine Artificial Neural Networks algorithms running in millions of distributed computers. They would learn from different data inputs to achieve good goals. There's also a mailing list for the project. NOTE: The power of all the computers connected to the Internet could now be very near to the power of one human brain (in terms of speed, memory,... ).
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ACid