I saw him as a mix of Lucifer trying to overthrow God to rule the kingdom and the illegitimate son just trying to win his father's respect and affection. I didn't find him to be cardboard at all but more layered than most critics gave him credit for.
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well in the first movie there was a digital stream to supply Tron, Ram and Kevin with energy so maybe since kevin was there so often he decided to recreate more palatable digital representations of energy to keep himself powered up.
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well in the first movie there was a digital stream to supply Tron, Ram and Kevin with energy so maybe since kevin was there so often he decided to recreate more palatable digital representations of energy to keep himself powered up. .
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actually in the first one the light cycles only turn on right angles when they are on the game grid. Once they escape they are free to drive like a regular bike with leans, gradual turns etc.
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they were giving him armor for the games. rogue programs are rounded up by the recognizers and sent to the games. did anyone else on Sam's recognizer look like they were ready to participate in the games, no they also would have been armored up by the Sirens.
what is wrong with blowing up the End of Line club he had to go there first to get kevin's identity disk so on the way out he place some C4. not seeing why this isn't okay.
Tron always fought for the users, at that point he had lost both his identity disks so maybe seeing Kevin up close when he did the fly over of the light jet reset his bas programming and freed him from CLU's control.
Zuse/Castor betrayal was no different than Lando's betrayal on Cloud City just with a little more flair.
Encom has moved beyond just making videogames in the 28 years since Kevin took over the company, the tv flashback sort of covered that.
Sam learned to grow up and be a man sort of like bruce wayne went on his walk about then retook over Wayne Enterprises.
The Shiva laser digitizes you and breaks you down to base biomaterial building blocks sort of like a Trek transporter stores the person in a buffer pattern. on the way out the buffer is rebuilt using the carbon/h2o and other materials (canisters on the side of the laser nozzle) to reintegrate you. for Quorra it would use the digital blueprint to create a physical representation. now how CLU was going to fit everyone in the basement is beyond me. maybe once he got through he would move the laser to an outside location for greater output.
Enjoyed it and hoping for a TRON3
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I think it was visually stunning movie that needs to be seen in IMAX in 3D. The 3D is subtle and adds a layer of depth like some of the themes of the movie that I think most critics missed when they call it an incomprehensible plot. Unlike Pocahontas in Space last year the plot didn't hit you over the head with the themes (Last year it was pretty easy to follow Greedy white man invades kill natives, Military bad, Ecoterrorism good)
On the surface it is the typical Joesph Campbell Hero's Journey: reluctant Hero (Sam) gets a message(page to Alan Bradley) to set him off on his quest, meets wise old wizard (kevin) and mythical creature (Quorra) on the way to defeat the baddie (Clu) and save the kingdom along the way a lost warrior returns to the light to redeem himself. But deeper it is the primal story mix of Lucifer trying to overthrow God and rule the kingdom of heaven and Hitler trying to rule the world with his perfect solution. Clu is not some cookie cutter mustache twirling villain at his base core he is the illegitimate son trying to win the love and respect of his father and know he did right. He does what he does fanatically because he is limited by his program, he can't think outside the box and hates the Isos because they now have God's love (who also have free will like Man)
Have we solved the uncanny valley with Clu (Bridge's deaging) not completely but at the same time we know he is a program limited by that programing code so the fact he looks a little off actually works for me.
definitely go see it in the theater, the acting is not Shakespeare, but did anyone compare Mark Hamill in Star Wars to Laurence Olivier? Tron has always held a special place in my heart as that is about the time I started programing (BASIC on a TRS-80 after an elementary school summer camp) and it showed the wonders of the inside of computer. Tron Legacy is the next evolution has us question what is digital life, with all our social and virtual interactions of cyberspace these days does our cyberself represent us or something more.
Now with the grid existing on Sam's neck server what new evolution will it take place? What is the future for Quorra? Did Kevin's final embrace/rectication with Clu jump start a new ISO life in the sea of simulation (sort of like the monolith causing Jupiter into a Sun to support life on Europa in 2010) Will Dillinger leave Encom to start his own company to rival Sam?
I only had the DVD so I took the VOB files merged them and put the mpg up on youtube. I am trying to work with Matt to get a higher resolution version up there and available for download.
I am working on getting the high def original, but all I had was the dvd version to upload. I just wanted to get it out there for folks to see since PAO has not really helped out.
I only had the DVD version that I got from a friend and put that up, but I am trying to get the high def originals from Matt. He is busy right now working the shuttle ET tanking test for STS-133. We are just happy folks are able to see the video since Matt has been trying for a while now to get it out in the public. The outpouring of support will hopefully prompt the folks to find a way to get a high res version available for the public to purchase or at the very least download.
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two bits were in the movie, neutral start on the mantle at the hideout. Clu picks them up and looks are them.
I saw him as a mix of Lucifer trying to overthrow God to rule the kingdom and the illegitimate son just trying to win his father's respect and affection. I didn't find him to be cardboard at all but more layered than most critics gave him credit for.
in the flashbacks it showed Tron on the grid with the 3 dot over 1 dot pattern that was the same as Rinzlers. Original Tron compared to Rinzler: (see the dot pattern) http://media.photobucket.com/image/tron%20is%20rinzler/constantbertram/TronRinzler.jpg Tron on the grid from Tron:Betrayal (prequel comic, since I can't find screencap from movie of the flashbacks) http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/13410storystory_full-0233435..jpg
yeah since it was just a quick shot at the door I wish they could have done it differently.
well in the first movie there was a digital stream to supply Tron, Ram and Kevin with energy so maybe since kevin was there so often he decided to recreate more palatable digital representations of energy to keep himself powered up.
well in the first movie there was a digital stream to supply Tron, Ram and Kevin with energy so maybe since kevin was there so often he decided to recreate more palatable digital representations of energy to keep himself powered up. .
actually in the first one the light cycles only turn on right angles when they are on the game grid. Once they escape they are free to drive like a regular bike with leans, gradual turns etc.
they were giving him armor for the games. rogue programs are rounded up by the recognizers and sent to the games. did anyone else on Sam's recognizer look like they were ready to participate in the games, no they also would have been armored up by the Sirens. what is wrong with blowing up the End of Line club he had to go there first to get kevin's identity disk so on the way out he place some C4. not seeing why this isn't okay. Tron always fought for the users, at that point he had lost both his identity disks so maybe seeing Kevin up close when he did the fly over of the light jet reset his bas programming and freed him from CLU's control. Zuse/Castor betrayal was no different than Lando's betrayal on Cloud City just with a little more flair. Encom has moved beyond just making videogames in the 28 years since Kevin took over the company, the tv flashback sort of covered that. Sam learned to grow up and be a man sort of like bruce wayne went on his walk about then retook over Wayne Enterprises. The Shiva laser digitizes you and breaks you down to base biomaterial building blocks sort of like a Trek transporter stores the person in a buffer pattern. on the way out the buffer is rebuilt using the carbon/h2o and other materials (canisters on the side of the laser nozzle) to reintegrate you. for Quorra it would use the digital blueprint to create a physical representation. now how CLU was going to fit everyone in the basement is beyond me. maybe once he got through he would move the laser to an outside location for greater output.
I think it was visually stunning movie that needs to be seen in IMAX in 3D. The 3D is subtle and adds a layer of depth like some of the themes of the movie that I think most critics missed when they call it an incomprehensible plot. Unlike Pocahontas in Space last year the plot didn't hit you over the head with the themes (Last year it was pretty easy to follow Greedy white man invades kill natives, Military bad, Ecoterrorism good) On the surface it is the typical Joesph Campbell Hero's Journey: reluctant Hero (Sam) gets a message(page to Alan Bradley) to set him off on his quest, meets wise old wizard (kevin) and mythical creature (Quorra) on the way to defeat the baddie (Clu) and save the kingdom along the way a lost warrior returns to the light to redeem himself. But deeper it is the primal story mix of Lucifer trying to overthrow God and rule the kingdom of heaven and Hitler trying to rule the world with his perfect solution. Clu is not some cookie cutter mustache twirling villain at his base core he is the illegitimate son trying to win the love and respect of his father and know he did right. He does what he does fanatically because he is limited by his program, he can't think outside the box and hates the Isos because they now have God's love (who also have free will like Man) Have we solved the uncanny valley with Clu (Bridge's deaging) not completely but at the same time we know he is a program limited by that programing code so the fact he looks a little off actually works for me. definitely go see it in the theater, the acting is not Shakespeare, but did anyone compare Mark Hamill in Star Wars to Laurence Olivier? Tron has always held a special place in my heart as that is about the time I started programing (BASIC on a TRS-80 after an elementary school summer camp) and it showed the wonders of the inside of computer. Tron Legacy is the next evolution has us question what is digital life, with all our social and virtual interactions of cyberspace these days does our cyberself represent us or something more. Now with the grid existing on Sam's neck server what new evolution will it take place? What is the future for Quorra? Did Kevin's final embrace/rectication with Clu jump start a new ISO life in the sea of simulation (sort of like the monolith causing Jupiter into a Sun to support life on Europa in 2010) Will Dillinger leave Encom to start his own company to rival Sam?
I only had the DVD so I took the VOB files merged them and put the mpg up on youtube. I am trying to work with Matt to get a higher resolution version up there and available for download.
I am working on getting the high def original, but all I had was the dvd version to upload. I just wanted to get it out there for folks to see since PAO has not really helped out.
I only had the DVD version that I got from a friend and put that up, but I am trying to get the high def originals from Matt. He is busy right now working the shuttle ET tanking test for STS-133. We are just happy folks are able to see the video since Matt has been trying for a while now to get it out in the public. The outpouring of support will hopefully prompt the folks to find a way to get a high res version available for the public to purchase or at the very least download.