Yep, there's no ultimate truth. You get to believe in a flat earth, if it meshes well with your belief system. Kewl!
I'm afraid you're wrong, sadly. There are quite a few delusions, and at least at this point, none of us know everything. So we all carry around our approximations of reality.
Please don't drag out some hokum new age drivel in defense, please.
Yes, I remember back when I felt good that I'd bought all those used DRAM chips right before the shortage hit. I think I paid like $6 or so for 256Kx1 bit chips. Which was really, really cheap at the time. People were lucky to be able to afford 640K of RAM.
My first 16 Megs of DRAM (4x4MB SIMMs) cost over $600.
Conveniently, their belief allows them to pull all kinds of gratifying power moves.
If I thought saving the world involved stealing your car and bopping your girl, wouldn't life be grand. Sadly, I have a better grip on reality than that. Oh well.
As long as fools out there are willing to buy the AMD crap, it helps drive down the price on Intel chips for people like me.
Face it, AMD got their start in x86 cloning by stealing Intel IP back in the 286 era. They had licensed the 286 from Intel in order to provide a 'second source' as required by the government.
So basically we have a case of the government prying open the Intel vault, AMD stealing the goods and running with them.
I think I may have been the last person on earth to wire up a Kansas City Interface, and that was in 1987. I had this SWTP6800 computer, you see, and only had software for it on cassette tape...
Before we get all involved in talking about Kilometers per Hour, we'd better determine what the metric equivalent for 'hour' is. The standard Hour is 1/24th of a day, and since we know that anything not decimal is bad and must be eliminated....
What is the metric equivalent. And why isn't it in common use?
Plus it takes a lot less effort to turn a buffer overflow into a rootkit when you have the source.
Good point. However, for some mysterious reason I notice that the 'no such thing as security through obscurity' people have backed into the corner, put their fingers in their ears, and are chanting 'na na na na.'
People throw around the term 'Darwinian' too much. To many, and it seems you would be an example, it's as if it's a mystical processor. 'The real world' just pounds away at something long enough that it 'evolves' into being something robust and secure.
That isn't how sound products that will thrive in the long term are developed. There has to be someone in charge. Yes, it hurts the feelings of a lot of anarchist ideologues to have to admit it, but having someone in charge of development does matter.
To step outside the metaphor of using the 'Cathederal' and 'Bazaar' as a model of the development method, and look at them as the end product: A 'Cathederal' is a structure built up with great planning and foresight. Cathederals take a century to build, and last for many centures. A 'Bazaar' is basically a bunch of people dragging tents and tarps out onto a flat piece of land. It lasts for maybe a month.
What does the way something is developed have to do with the final product (or a given release), and the tests performed on it? You are testing the product, not the developement environment, surely?
It's a well-established tenant of modern 'quality' theory that it's not enough to 'test quality into a product.' One cannot simply ignore the process by which something is produced, and just test it as a final step.
I think this article, however, goes further than this, and actually hits Linux and Open Source at one of it's weakest spots: the lack of a top-down well managed design. Linux has no team of central designers determining the basic structure of the OS. It instead relies on knowledgable developers using 'Unix' in general as a reference design to produce a 'kinda sorta' Unix clone OS. The severe lack of any real architects at the top overseeing the whole effort is an issue that isn't well addressed by the 'Open Source' ideologues.
Well, considering that NetBSD grew out of the same family that yielded Solaris, Linux, and FreeBSD, while OpenBSD is a splinter (child) of NetBSD, it seems like they were describing where they came from, not where a splinter group out of NetBSD went.
I'm running it on two Macs (A IIci and an SE/30) and two K6-2's. I am on the scout for more obscure architectures to run it on. I'd like to scarf up one of those Chalice StrongARM motherboards but they are SO EXPENSIVE.
Anybody know of a good source for cheap ARM hardware?
You sound like the emporer of China, right after the Great Wall had been finished, and when about to execute the fellow who had the audacity to invent a flying machine.
What if the net does go away. Or is sliced and diced and balkanized bigtime?
It isn't that far fetched a possiblity. It dovetails well with some of these moves we're all carrying on about.
The world never stands still, and there's really no reason the signals sent down the wires can't be radically changed.
Theres still tons of money to be made, and lots of ways things can evolve. Heck, the net could be chopped up into privatized segments and sold off. Please don't assume it's gonna just continue to evolve as it has. That's the least likely thing, with the storms brewing these days with regard to IP laws, etc.
what happens when everyone has that kind of bandwith?
People like to go to the movies. It gives teenagers an excuse to get away from their parents into the dark with a member of the opposite sex. It gives people without air conditioning a chance to sit somewhere cool in the summer.
People already have TV sets. That is what the internet is and will mean to most people.
The broadband media that becomes mainstream likely won't be "the internet" in any event. Times are changing and broadband is evolving. IP is widely perceived by commercial interests these days as far too insecure for them to peddle their wares on. And it makes sense. There's no reason in the world for an antiquated Cold War topology like the Internet to become the default for the forseeable future, except inertia (read: the same reason the x86 architecture is dominant).
I'm drifting OT here, but think about this stuff. We'll not be communicating on an antique Unix/RFC defined network for much longer. I would bet my Slackware CD on it.
It's always amusing to read some random Anonymous Coward on Slashdot explaining what a coder like Rasterman should be doing instead of whatever he is doing.
Yes, you DO have the right to carp and whine about what somebody else voluntarily does with his/her coding time. No, it's not necessary to actually do any productive work YOURSELF.
The ruling is just another nail in the coffin of Public Education. And that's probably for the best in any event.
The top three winners in the National Spelling Bee this year were all home-schooled. Times are changing, and Public Education, which by the way is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution as a role for government, may soon be properly humbled.
Actually, any SCSI disk will work with a Mac. Just today I shoehorned a DEC 1 Gig drive into an old Mac that I am installing NetBSD-Mac68K on. You just have to use the A-UX disk utility instead of the feeble MacOS one.
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Ah, we have a relativist.
Yep, there's no ultimate truth. You get to believe in a flat earth, if it meshes well with your belief system. Kewl!
I'm afraid you're wrong, sadly. There are quite a few delusions, and at least at this point, none of us know everything. So we all carry around our approximations of reality.
Please don't drag out some hokum new age drivel in defense, please.
Yes, I remember back when I felt good that I'd bought all those used DRAM chips right before the shortage hit. I think I paid like $6 or so for 256Kx1 bit chips. Which was really, really cheap at the time. People were lucky to be able to afford 640K of RAM.
My first 16 Megs of DRAM (4x4MB SIMMs) cost over $600.
Naw. Whiney tree huggers think they care more.
Conveniently, their belief allows them to pull all kinds of gratifying power moves.
If I thought saving the world involved stealing your car and bopping your girl, wouldn't life be grand. Sadly, I have a better grip on reality than that. Oh well.
I guess there's nothing at all wrong with tweaking something to run less reliabliy.
Go ahead. Have fun.
Hope to see ya on the shoulder futzing around with your engine.
Or maybe I'm just 'overstocked' on two K6-2 systems (both with FIC VA-503+ motherboard) that I regret owning.
Really, they're okay machines, but that's all they are. Okay.
I like the competition too.
As long as fools out there are willing to buy the AMD crap, it helps drive down the price on Intel chips for people like me.
Face it, AMD got their start in x86 cloning by stealing Intel IP back in the 286 era. They had licensed the 286 from Intel in order to provide a 'second source' as required by the government.
So basically we have a case of the government prying open the Intel vault, AMD stealing the goods and running with them.
Actually, it takes some skill to earn $100,000 to pay for aforementioned car.
It takes plain old dorkyness and a white-trash attitude to screw around with $50 bolt-on crap to get a 500hp car.
It's status though. Fastest car in the trailer park!
That was a long, long time ago, though.
I think I may have been the last person on earth to wire up a Kansas City Interface, and that was in 1987. I had this SWTP6800 computer, you see, and only had software for it on cassette tape...
never mind.
Before we get all involved in talking about Kilometers per Hour, we'd better determine what the metric equivalent for 'hour' is. The standard Hour is 1/24th of a day, and since we know that anything not decimal is bad and must be eliminated....
What is the metric equivalent. And why isn't it in common use?
Plus it takes a lot less effort to turn a buffer overflow into a rootkit when you have the source.
Good point. However, for some mysterious reason I notice that the 'no such thing as security through obscurity' people have backed into the corner, put their fingers in their ears, and are chanting 'na na na na.'
I didn't think so either.
What was your point??
Open source's strength is that it's Darwinian.
People throw around the term 'Darwinian' too much. To many, and it seems you would be an example, it's as if it's a mystical processor. 'The real world' just pounds away at something long enough that it 'evolves' into being something robust and secure.
That isn't how sound products that will thrive in the long term are developed. There has to be someone in charge. Yes, it hurts the feelings of a lot of anarchist ideologues to have to admit it, but having someone in charge of development does matter.
To step outside the metaphor of using the 'Cathederal' and 'Bazaar' as a model of the development method, and look at them as the end product: A 'Cathederal' is a structure built up with great planning and foresight. Cathederals take a century to build, and last for many centures. A 'Bazaar' is basically a bunch of people dragging tents and tarps out onto a flat piece of land. It lasts for maybe a month.
What does the way something is developed have to do with the final product (or a given release), and the tests performed on it? You are testing the product, not the developement environment, surely?
It's a well-established tenant of modern 'quality' theory that it's not enough to 'test quality into a product.' One cannot simply ignore the process by which something is produced, and just test it as a final step.
I think this article, however, goes further than this, and actually hits Linux and Open Source at one of it's weakest spots: the lack of a top-down well managed design. Linux has no team of central designers determining the basic structure of the OS. It instead relies on knowledgable developers using 'Unix' in general as a reference design to produce a 'kinda sorta' Unix clone OS. The severe lack of any real architects at the top overseeing the whole effort is an issue that isn't well addressed by the 'Open Source' ideologues.
Sorry, guy.
The "but it's better than Microsoft" arguement is wearing thin, and might soon be rendered meaningless.
You'll have to come up with more meaningful ways of praising Linux and Open Source in the near future.
Well, considering that NetBSD grew out of the same family that yielded Solaris, Linux, and FreeBSD, while OpenBSD is a splinter (child) of NetBSD, it seems like they were describing where they came from, not where a splinter group out of NetBSD went.
Isn't that perfectly reasonable?
Hopefully, since they're BSD-centric, they're not going to GPL anything. They'll hopefully use a free license, like the BSD license.
Why does this not seem fairly obvious?
I'm running it on two Macs (A IIci and an SE/30) and two K6-2's. I am on the scout for more obscure architectures to run it on. I'd like to scarf up one of those Chalice StrongARM motherboards but they are SO EXPENSIVE.
Anybody know of a good source for cheap ARM hardware?
You sound like the emporer of China, right after the Great Wall had been finished, and when about to execute the fellow who had the audacity to invent a flying machine.
What if the net does go away. Or is sliced and diced and balkanized bigtime?
It isn't that far fetched a possiblity. It dovetails well with some of these moves we're all carrying on about.
The world never stands still, and there's really no reason the signals sent down the wires can't be radically changed.
Theres still tons of money to be made, and lots of ways things can evolve. Heck, the net could be chopped up into privatized segments and sold off. Please don't assume it's gonna just continue to evolve as it has. That's the least likely thing, with the storms brewing these days with regard to IP laws, etc.
what happens when everyone has that kind of bandwith?
People like to go to the movies. It gives teenagers an excuse to get away from their parents into the dark with a member of the opposite sex. It gives people without air conditioning a chance to sit somewhere cool in the summer.
People already have TV sets. That is what the internet is and will mean to most people.
The broadband media that becomes mainstream likely won't be "the internet" in any event. Times are changing and broadband is evolving. IP is widely perceived by commercial interests these days as far too insecure for them to peddle their wares on. And it makes sense. There's no reason in the world for an antiquated Cold War topology like the Internet to become the default for the forseeable future, except inertia (read: the same reason the x86 architecture is dominant).
I'm drifting OT here, but think about this stuff. We'll not be communicating on an antique Unix/RFC defined network for much longer. I would bet my Slackware CD on it.
It's always amusing to read some random Anonymous Coward on Slashdot explaining what a coder like Rasterman should be doing instead of whatever he is doing.
Yes, you DO have the right to carp and whine about what somebody else voluntarily does with his/her coding time. No, it's not necessary to actually do any productive work YOURSELF.
Nope.
The ruling is just another nail in the coffin of Public Education. And that's probably for the best in any event.
The top three winners in the National Spelling Bee this year were all home-schooled. Times are changing, and Public Education, which by the way is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution as a role for government, may soon be properly humbled.
Actually, any SCSI disk will work with a Mac. Just today I shoehorned a DEC 1 Gig drive into an old Mac that I am installing NetBSD-Mac68K on. You just have to use the A-UX disk utility instead of the feeble MacOS one.
I got my first AOL coaster in the mail that came in a DVD container just a few weeks ago.
*sigh*
Isn't there a little rubber Tux toy in Corel Linux or something?
(I'll never find out)