It's pretty humorous that for a bunch of people supposedly tech-savvy, you fail to understand that regular expressions can easily tell if a three or four letter pattern is bounded in whitespace or not.
Naw, you're just carrying on to be cute, you couldn't be that clueless and hang out on/.
There is no guarantee that filters will be limited to 'jiggling tits' as you so eloquently put it. Look at CyperPatrol with its politcal agenda.
The 'content filtering' industry is in it's infancy yet. Believe me, there's commercial potential there, and as the industry grows, people will figure out who has a political agenda and who doesn't.
Put simply, places that pull a 'CyberPatrol' will lose customers.
There's a simple solution for getting rid of most of the Porn on the 'net.
Get a legal precedent started that absolves people from responsiblity for paying for access to porn websites. If credit card firms were allowed to simply refuse payment to porn vendors, they'd disappear in a matter of weeks.
Don't try to stop people from accessing the sites, just make it impossible for the site owners to collect from said people. There are very few non-pay sites on the web, and actual special interest groups like the BDSM people who hang out on various Usenet groups do have legitimate free speech issues to raise. Most of them would be glad to see the commercial website spammers eliminated from their newsfeeds.
It fun to watch the "only (our defintion of) Free Software" folks paint themselves into a corner.
I hear they're working on a free re-implementation of the Teletype ASR-33 so that when they've declared non-free hardware like VGA display adapters forbidden they can still run ed and groff.
I had my first Linux install up in 1993. I got tired of the 'distro of the day' adventures a few years back when packages that used to work stopped working. I got tired of source tarballs for useful programs no longer building on the latest flavor. So I mostly use NetBSD on my free Unix machines these days. (theres one Slackware machine left for various tasks Linux does best)
And yes, when I have stuff like Image editing to accomplish I use one of my other machines (dual boot is a drag, I have 100 MB ethernet connecting a half dozen machines single booting various OSes), with the software best equipped to accomplish the task at hand.
Yep. I used to be a Linux zealot. I know where a lot of fiery eyed advocates are headed, because I've been there. I quit trying to get my schematic capture software and emulator host software to run under Linux, because in the end the real world doesn't care what OS you do your work with. Holy wars are only fun for awhile, and if you've got nothing better to do with your time.
It's four colors, the order to list them has an 'established' pattern, but the important part is to include the right four. I bet you can't list what the four letters each stand for without looking it up somewhere. But you've got the buzzword part right, eh?
Microsoft does not even TRY to get 'different versions of word to read each others files.'
Their intent is for the format to be 'forward compatible' (drives the adoption of newer versions) and hence their only goal is to make sure newer versions will read docs created in earlier versions.
So it's a bald-faced lie (or at worst a horrible distortion by someone very clueless) to claim that Microsoft is hopelessly lost and can't read their own formatted data.
The problem with the STOP button in Navigator is that they've slipped a SHOP button in right beside it. Generally I only use the STOP button in emergency situations, i.e. I accidently click on a link, on a page that took forever to load, and don't want to go through loading it again to undo my mistake. (i.e. slow loading dynamic pages). So I hit the SHOP button by mistake (I of course have the graphics turned off on the buttons), and whoosh. It sucks. It sucks a LOT.
I bought a vaccum tube White Noise generator from a guy on sci.electronics.equipment a few years ago. It has a rotary switch on the front marked 'AF' and 'RF'. I have wondered for a time if I could hook a powerful linear amplifier to the output, put it in RF mode and blank out the neighborhood.
My Microcomputers I instructor told us that Motorola was a better chip than Intel. Of course, back then Motorola's chip was the 6802 and Intel's chip was the 8085...
In fact, he told us that for some time, this was a cheap albeit illegal way for people to light up their garden sheds near a TV transmitter station in the first years of broadcasting.
Why would it be illegal? It seems like a very passive method, which doesn't radiate any interference at all. I've thought for quite some time that people living near broadcast towers should be able to soak up as much of anything that radiates from said towers with impunity, so long as they radiate nothing. Hell, they just have an efficient antenna. If the broadcaster doesn't like it, they can move.
I like the part about drawing the moths in to the fire. I imagine the people who oppose widespread music piracy on the internet like that part of what you said too. Burned moths don't get the chance to download much more music, so to speak. The analogy breaks down when you realize that humans are smarter than moths, and won't continue to fly into the flame when they see what happened to someone else who did.
Furthermore, to address the last part of what you typed, Microsoft didn't just build 'this standard.' Microsoft also built Windows 2000 and openly challanged people to crack it. Guess what? Have you heard a big hullabaloo yet about a prominent site that uses Windows 2000 being cracked? I suspect we all would if one had. There are tons of people with something else to sell who will be screaming it from the rooftop if and when it happens. So it apparently hasn't. When it does, we'll start believeing you have a chance at a taste of that apple. No, scratch that. Somebody will have a chance. We've seen your work here on/.
Read the definition closely: it says 'small inherited variations.'
That's very different from 'making a stupid mistake that causes you to be killed.' Most times the mistake that gets you killed is a big non-inherited variation.
Not very many people think it through, so you can blather on about 'evolution in action' and sound 'clever' to the average idiot. But you sound like an idiot to anybody who thinks it through. Your choice, I guess.
You fail to recognize that all Darwin describes is a process. That process could have been created by a higher being. Nothing in Darwin's theories precludes the possiblity that God created a world in which life is predestined to evolve.
Even if you're the worlds most virulent athiest, you can only say that you believe God is dead. You can't prove it. All you can do is replace one faith with another.
Everything you just said about him sounds like marketing-speak. Not hacker-speak.
I mean, really. You aren't seriously going to claim Apple's designs could be built by 'electronic enthusiasts' are you? They purposefully put stuff like GAL chips in their products to PREVENT open designs. I maintain that Don Lancaster, who I mentioned in my post earlier, was a true hardware hacker of the era. He published open plans for his designs, encouraged home-brew development, and never closed a hardware design. Woz let his partner Jobs sell him out.
You aren't seriously saying the Altair was a mainframe are you? If so, there's no point in discussing it further with you.
Gates personally wrote most (all?) the code in the TRS-80 Model 100, which is definitely one of the coolest portable computers of all time. I have a Model 100 waiting for me to buy it back from a friend I sold it to. It's a really, really cool machine.
But there were countless other innovative designs back then. His just happened to become a commercial success (the second time around, the Apple I didn't sell very well).
Don Lancaster's 'Cheap Video Cookbook' contains hardware hacks (i.e. the 'Upstream tap' design to get high speed video from low-end slow microprocessors) that's far cooler than anything the Woz thought up. Don these days is basically an eBay spammer on a number of electronics equipment newsgroups (he gets flamed regularly for his 'for auction' items listed on sci.electronics.equipment), so I guess his name doesn't look as prestigous on a plaque, but he's a far more innovative hacker/inventor than the Woz.
Will the big bucks from Apple follow in the wake of this 'award' or what??
Woz is a great guy and all that, but is he really a 'great inventor'??
I (and surely a number of you) was around and in the personal computer scene back then, and the Apple I and II designs were NOT that dramatic or better than any other designs. My Z-80 based big-board computer is also a nice integrated design. The TRS-80 was a cool hack (who would have thought of a keyboard interface consisting of address and data lines crossed in a grid except Tandy's people???) The Sinclair computer is a marvel in minimalist design (only a handful of chips in the entire design).
The Apple, and Apple Computer, mushroomed to success for reasons entirely separate from the design of their hardware. Mainly, the commercial success of the Apple II was due to the availability of Visicalc, the first spreadsheet, exclusively on the Apple machine for about a year- businessmen would go into a computer shop wanting to purchase 'A Visicalc'- the fact that the shop owner sold them an 'Apple' was incidental. And though it's now a 'legend', the Apple I wasn't even really a successful product (less than several hundred even sold).
Why is the Woz singled out for an award like this? There are countless others who we could come up with more deserving of the honor, people who actually invented stuff key to the development of the computer, like the inventor of the disk drive, or core memory, etc.
I've just never been that impressed with Apple and the 'great products' they started the company with.
Hey. I'm running NetBSD on a Mac SE/30. I am thinking of running OpenBSD on a second SE/30 I've aquired for such adventures. Did you really think I'm doing that because I can't afford a '486?
It should, if it must incorporate the X Logo, have a circle-slash over it. One of the main points of Berlin is to finally kill the X Window System dinosaur. I mean, really.
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It's pretty humorous that for a bunch of people supposedly tech-savvy, you fail to understand that regular expressions can easily tell if a three or four letter pattern is bounded in whitespace or not.
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Naw, you're just carrying on to be cute, you couldn't be that clueless and hang out on
There is no guarantee that filters will be limited to 'jiggling tits' as you so eloquently put it. Look at CyperPatrol with its politcal agenda.
The 'content filtering' industry is in it's infancy yet. Believe me, there's commercial potential there, and as the industry grows, people will figure out who has a political agenda and who doesn't.
Put simply, places that pull a 'CyberPatrol' will lose customers.
There's a simple solution for getting rid of most of the Porn on the 'net.
Get a legal precedent started that absolves people from responsiblity for paying for access to porn websites. If credit card firms were allowed to simply refuse payment to porn vendors, they'd disappear in a matter of weeks.
Don't try to stop people from accessing the sites, just make it impossible for the site owners to collect from said people. There are very few non-pay sites on the web, and actual special interest groups like the BDSM people who hang out on various Usenet groups do have legitimate free speech issues to raise. Most of them would be glad to see the commercial website spammers eliminated from their newsfeeds.
It fun to watch the "only (our defintion of) Free Software" folks paint themselves into a corner.
I hear they're working on a free re-implementation of the Teletype ASR-33 so that when they've declared non-free hardware like VGA display adapters forbidden they can still run ed and groff.
I had my first Linux install up in 1993. I got tired of the 'distro of the day' adventures a few years back when packages that used to work stopped working. I got tired of source tarballs for useful programs no longer building on the latest flavor. So I mostly use NetBSD on my free Unix machines these days. (theres one Slackware machine left for various tasks Linux does best)
And yes, when I have stuff like Image editing to accomplish I use one of my other machines (dual boot is a drag, I have 100 MB ethernet connecting a half dozen machines single booting various OSes), with the software best equipped to accomplish the task at hand.
Yep. I used to be a Linux zealot. I know where a lot of fiery eyed advocates are headed, because I've been there. I quit trying to get my schematic capture software and emulator host software to run under Linux, because in the end the real world doesn't care what OS you do your work with. Holy wars are only fun for awhile, and if you've got nothing better to do with your time.
There is no law of nature that forces you to have a modem, a computer, or even electrical wiring in your home or place of work.
It's four colors, the order to list them has an 'established' pattern, but the important part is to include the right four. I bet you can't list what the four letters each stand for without looking it up somewhere. But you've got the buzzword part right, eh?
Hell no you can't!
Ever heard of EBCDIC?
Ever heard of BAUDOT?
Microsoft does not even TRY to get 'different versions of word to read each others files.'
Their intent is for the format to be 'forward compatible' (drives the adoption of newer versions) and hence their only goal is to make sure newer versions will read docs created in earlier versions.
So it's a bald-faced lie (or at worst a horrible distortion by someone very clueless) to claim that Microsoft is hopelessly lost and can't read their own formatted data.
The problem with the STOP button in Navigator is that they've slipped a SHOP button in right beside it. Generally I only use the STOP button in emergency situations, i.e. I accidently click on a link, on a page that took forever to load, and don't want to go through loading it again to undo my mistake. (i.e. slow loading dynamic pages). So I hit the SHOP button by mistake (I of course have the graphics turned off on the buttons), and whoosh. It sucks. It sucks a LOT.
Your argument would be a whole lot stronger if you could come up with a few examples where animated images are part of the content.
I can't think of any off-hand.
I bought a vaccum tube White Noise generator from a guy on sci.electronics.equipment a few years ago. It has a rotary switch on the front marked 'AF' and 'RF'. I have wondered for a time if I could hook a powerful linear amplifier to the output, put it in RF mode and blank out the neighborhood.
My Microcomputers I instructor told us that Motorola was a better chip than Intel. Of course, back then Motorola's chip was the 6802 and Intel's chip was the 8085...
In the early days of radar, there are cases of Navy personnel being literally cooked by the beam.
In fact, he told us that for some time, this was a cheap albeit illegal way for people to light up their garden sheds near a TV transmitter station in the first years of broadcasting.
Why would it be illegal? It seems like a very passive method, which doesn't radiate any interference at all. I've thought for quite some time that people living near broadcast towers should be able to soak up as much of anything that radiates from said towers with impunity, so long as they radiate nothing. Hell, they just have an efficient antenna. If the broadcaster doesn't like it, they can move.
I like the part about drawing the moths in to the fire. I imagine the people who oppose widespread music piracy on the internet like that part of what you said too. Burned moths don't get the chance to download much more music, so to speak. The analogy breaks down when you realize that humans are smarter than moths, and won't continue to fly into the flame when they see what happened to someone else who did.
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Furthermore, to address the last part of what you typed, Microsoft didn't just build 'this standard.' Microsoft also built Windows 2000 and openly challanged people to crack it. Guess what? Have you heard a big hullabaloo yet about a prominent site that uses Windows 2000 being cracked? I suspect we all would if one had. There are tons of people with something else to sell who will be screaming it from the rooftop if and when it happens. So it apparently hasn't. When it does, we'll start believeing you have a chance at a taste of that apple. No, scratch that. Somebody will have a chance. We've seen your work here on
Read the definition closely: it says 'small inherited variations.'
That's very different from 'making a stupid mistake that causes you to be killed.' Most times the mistake that gets you killed is a big non-inherited variation.
Not very many people think it through, so you can blather on about 'evolution in action' and sound 'clever' to the average idiot. But you sound like an idiot to anybody who thinks it through. Your choice, I guess.
You fail to recognize that all Darwin describes is a process. That process could have been created by a higher being. Nothing in Darwin's theories precludes the possiblity that God created a world in which life is predestined to evolve.
Even if you're the worlds most virulent athiest, you can only say that you believe God is dead. You can't prove it. All you can do is replace one faith with another.
Everything you just said about him sounds like marketing-speak. Not hacker-speak.
I mean, really. You aren't seriously going to claim Apple's designs could be built by 'electronic enthusiasts' are you? They purposefully put stuff like GAL chips in their products to PREVENT open designs. I maintain that Don Lancaster, who I mentioned in my post earlier, was a true hardware hacker of the era. He published open plans for his designs, encouraged home-brew development, and never closed a hardware design. Woz let his partner Jobs sell him out.
You aren't seriously saying the Altair was a mainframe are you? If so, there's no point in discussing it further with you.
I got personally flamed by Marvin Minsky once (he delurked on Usenet just to flame me!).
Gates personally wrote most (all?) the code in the TRS-80 Model 100, which is definitely one of the coolest portable computers of all time. I have a Model 100 waiting for me to buy it back from a friend I sold it to. It's a really, really cool machine.
How was the Woz an innovator?
He was a TTL hacker, nobody will deny that.
But there were countless other innovative designs back then. His just happened to become a commercial success (the second time around, the Apple I didn't sell very well).
Don Lancaster's 'Cheap Video Cookbook' contains hardware hacks (i.e. the 'Upstream tap' design to get high speed video from low-end slow microprocessors) that's far cooler than anything the Woz thought up. Don these days is basically an eBay spammer on a number of electronics equipment newsgroups (he gets flamed regularly for his 'for auction' items listed on sci.electronics.equipment), so I guess his name doesn't look as prestigous on a plaque, but he's a far more innovative hacker/inventor than the Woz.
Will the big bucks from Apple follow in the wake of this 'award' or what??
Woz is a great guy and all that, but is he really a 'great inventor'??
I (and surely a number of you) was around and in the personal computer scene back then, and the Apple I and II designs were NOT that dramatic or better than any other designs. My Z-80 based big-board computer is also a nice integrated design. The TRS-80 was a cool hack (who would have thought of a keyboard interface consisting of address and data lines crossed in a grid except Tandy's people???) The Sinclair computer is a marvel in minimalist design (only a handful of chips in the entire design).
The Apple, and Apple Computer, mushroomed to success for reasons entirely separate from the design of their hardware. Mainly, the commercial success of the Apple II was due to the availability of Visicalc, the first spreadsheet, exclusively on the Apple machine for about a year- businessmen would go into a computer shop wanting to purchase 'A Visicalc'- the fact that the shop owner sold them an 'Apple' was incidental. And though it's now a 'legend', the Apple I wasn't even really a successful product (less than several hundred even sold).
Why is the Woz singled out for an award like this? There are countless others who we could come up with more deserving of the honor, people who actually invented stuff key to the development of the computer, like the inventor of the disk drive, or core memory, etc.
I've just never been that impressed with Apple and the 'great products' they started the company with.
Hey. I'm running NetBSD on a Mac SE/30. I am thinking of running OpenBSD on a second SE/30 I've aquired for such adventures. Did you really think I'm doing that because I can't afford a '486?
Coolness matters. The geek factor matters.
The Icon for this article is wrong.
It should, if it must incorporate the X Logo, have a circle-slash over it. One of the main points of Berlin is to finally kill the X Window System dinosaur. I mean, really.