That isn't fair to say. There are numerous other fine Operating Systems that people can use. The commercial Unixes are all viable. So is Netware. The new MacOS is coming on strong.
It's a mistake to focus only on Windows (which is a viable option, mind you), because you just makes it seem like Linux is the ONLY other option.
Hell, if you want a freenix, any of the three BSD variants are more viable than Linux. Unless you're a college kid in a dorm who wants all the 'latest' (as in- anything more than a year old, of course) wingie-dingie stuff.
Linux is a fine robust Operating System. When compared to Minix, which is really only the 'Ensigns training ship' Operating System, and that's all it tries to be.
It does not matter one way or the other wether Microsoft made mistakes in the case. They are one of the interested parties. Jackson was supposed to be impartial. That's why he was the judge. His reputation rides on this case, and from what has already been seen, he's screwed up before.
What do I think? I think you're obsessed with a 'circle the wagons' 'focus inward' mentality. Near as I can tell all you are motivated by is simple hatred of Microsoft.
You should include examples like Sun's blatant efforts to completely 0wn the Java 'standard' and try to balance out your point of view. Microsoft is not the 'great Satan' of IT firms. They have a habit of trying to take things over, but many firms do that as well.
Try not to make your primary focus Hatred of Microsoft. You'll find there's a big world out there and opposition to Microsoft isn't the only guide to go by in forming your ideology.
A "Standard" specifies a certain set of qualities. I don't know why you insist on ascribing levels. A standard can specify a very low level of quality. The minimum standards to graduate from High School in America, for example.
I happily removed myself from the contant upgrade cycle years ago by committing to only use 8-bit MFM Hard disk controllers. Sure my system is hellaciously noisy, since I'm using a whole stack of Seagate ST-225 20 meg hard drives, and the 65 mSec access time is a bit slow, but I can plug in a drive manufactured years ago, often without losing throughput. It's a bit of a hassle getting started, of course, as few distros give you a pre-compiled kernel with the '8-bit controller' option enabled. But it's definitely worth it in the long run!
The RS-232 4 milliampere current loop interface has been a standard for a long time. Don't make the mistake of using the new-fangled and still unproven +/- 12 volt serial interface. My 110 baud ASR-33 teletype ROCKS, man! You wouldn't believe how much faster I can edit text than back when I used an old 50 baud model.
So I agree, stick with standards for a long time. Don't mess with damn fool gear like video displays, keyboards, etc. Throw it all away and compile in serial console support to use your yellow paper teletype terminal. The current-loop adapter to attach your teletype to what was formerly the modem port of your Athlon is a cool hack you can show off to your friends!
You'll get used to ED or EX. Because, of course, you won't even be able to use vi anymore.
I chose to NOT buy my new stereo gear at Best Buy. It's all cheap garbage. I can't afford 'the best' but I can definitely afford to be discerning. So I bought a Yamaha Integrated Amp and Klipsch speakers. It wasn't that expensive, it's a medium to long term purchase (it replaced a Karmon-Kardon Vacuum Tube Integrated Amp I bought in a thrift store fifteen years ago...)
What makes you think it's a bad thing that we're free to choose?
Montreal, btw, is the only city left in North America where one is encouraged to live a life outside of work/home.
That's a rather peculiar thing for you to say.
Granted, I am sitting here at home typing this. But through my open window I hear the kids out at the park playing ball. Often enough adult ball games are being played out there as well. And guess what? Those people are encouraged to be out there by the Park & Recreation folks who put out flyers, organize leagues, etc.
One thing for certain is that I am NOT in Montreal. (but it's also a nice place to live, just like where I am in the 'Twin Cities' of Minnesota)
Speaking as somebody who just last month made the last payment on his Saturn, I am looking forward to the next few years when the car is effectively 'free.' The term of the car payments is about the same as the term of a lease, and the payments were about the same. And in either case there was a 'down payment' up front.
Code morphing is just the buzzword, to distinguish these things from other processors. Nobody is gonna want to swap in and out different microcode between applications. Odds are these things will be strapped down tight executing x86 code for the entire life of the part.
I mean, really. These are just FPGA chips with fancy marketing bolted on (**). Without Linus Torvalds in a glass display case in the lobby of corporate headquarters, nobody would even be paying attention to Transmeta.
(** and a few patents to make it seem special. Oh, that's right. We're supposed to hate companies that patent things....)
Yes, indeed. Ages ago in computer years, Intel came out with that marvelous piece of silicon known as the 486-SX. Elves throughout the Intel plant worked strenuously with a scratch awl, digging out that floating point silicon.
These days, Intel doesn't have the time, nor the resources, to engage in such operations themselves. They've got Xeons to pump out. So they've partnered with Transmeta, who are proud to introduce . . .
Crusoe- also known as . . .
. . . the Pentium-SX ! ! !
For those light duty machines ladies often carry in their handbags. Truly the derringer of microprocessors.
First, about the idea of American Indians as environmental icons. This is idiotic. They were living with fucking stone age technology. They couldn't damage the environment if they wanted to.
Actually, the fossil record in North America shows that before the Indians came over from Asia, there were horse-like animals here on the North American continent. The Indians wiped the species out without bothering to train them for transport. They were probably good eating.
Hey! I've got Emma Goldman's autobiography (a 1930's first edition copy), and I've read it.
I've also got her book 'My Disillusionment in Russia' which tells of the mess she found when she was exiled into Soviet Russia for being an Anarchist.
Hell, I've even got a Dead Kennedys album or two.
And, of course, the all-important copy of Grimm's Fairy Tales. Gotta bulk up the 'fantasy' section of the library somehow.
That's all fun stuff to dream about.
An old time lefty who I've finally been able to shake off, someone from the 60's who I admired in my idealistic youth, a guy who used to live and breathe 'Anarchist' hype, has found his way halfway into reality. He still sputters and fumes and spews out class-war rhetoric. But he also plays around a lot with online-trading. When he isn't letching over a female lab assistant 30 years younger than he is.
Anarchy is a fun hobby, like building model railroads.
Yeah, right. The cleaning crew shouldn't just come in after hours and empty the wastebaskets, they should leave a few schematics on the whiteboard on their way through the cubicle farm.
Companies should be owned by their workers, and not outside investors.
That sounds great to me. Fire anybody on staff who can't afford a proprotional share in the company.
But I think the best way to make the environment cleaner is to place a financial premium on clean technology.
And here I thought we'd just gotten through discussing the fact that it's in any businesses financial interest to embrace more efficient ('cleaner') technology.
Are you saying government bureaucrats will be better at deciding how to make industrial operations cleaner and more efficient than the experts who operate those plants?
The key is to get government out of the business of managing business. Give people back a direct stake in how they run their operations. Part of that is rolling back even FURTHER government intrusion into everyday life.
A rich industrialist will only clean up his act and spend the additional money to make his plant cleaner and more efficient if he sees a reason. One reason that comes to mind is his concern for the next generation. The next generation is his grandkids. When he sees most of his wealth expropriated in the form of inheritance taxation, it becomes a 'what's the use, may as well just aim for the short term bottom line' decision for him. So he hires an MBA to run the operation and moves to Florida. To fix this we need to get rid of Inheritance taxes altogether.
Common sense ideas like this just don't get enough exposure, it seems. Instead we have people who've made the mistake of going through college without any practical application for what they learned (social workers, political science types, hyphenated-american studes majors, etc.) scrambling to justify their meal ticket with more contrived spun-up bullsh*t theories, involving further state intervention. They've fooled themselves into thinking what they do is for 'the good of the people.' It's time to stop them from fooling the rest of us.
You didn't even have to think before responding to what he said there, did you??
Free Software = Software with Freedom.
Free Market = A Marketplace with Freedom.
I can't even figure out, and I suspect nobody else will be able to, either, what the hell your response had to do with what he said.
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Taken from the summary:
One of these ideas is totally eliminating personal income tax, and instead taxing the use or waste of natural resource;
This sounds like something true Libertarians would run away from screaming. The personal income tax was not devised to manipulate and control the market. So here we have these supposed advocates of 'freedom' advocating further, and far more pervasive government intervention in the marketplace. Claiming that it is 'natural' and based on some sort of natural law of how things work is so contrived I can't imagine it's an error on the author's part. It's outright deceitful.
I'm sorry. The kind of people I remember back in college being really into Amory Lovins philosophical outlook seemed on the surface to be all free and natural. They were actually some of the biggest advocates of state intervention in the economy. You know the type. The Ralf Naderish *PIRG people.
When my brother-in-law was in Engineering school the geeky engineering type students took over the local PIRG organization one year and completely shut it down. Don't let the type of people with ideas like 'Natural Capitalism' convince you they're cool and geeky tech freaks. They're the OPPOSITE of hackers. Hackers develop cool ideas and make them happen in reality. These people write a book, and sell it to liberals as something to use to get more government programs running.
It is probably a GPL violation that Microsoft purchased, rather than committed themselves. Interix was developed by Softway Systems and Microsoft only purchased Software about a half year ago. Softway was an NT Source license holder, under NDA.
This category seems a lot like Usenet. Less consistent than the usual discussions on/.
It's like a little mini-Usenet built inside the/. site, with all the wandering discussions weaved together like a newsgroup. Except each mini-Usenet dies and is tucked away in an archive after a day or so.
I've built some Linux and Unix code on Interix. Very little of it (if it's portable code, and not based in Linux-only functionality) required adapting to build.
Are you a paid Interix customer? If not, you don't belong in any discussion of 'breach of contract.'
Yes. Almost every OS except Linux uses the BSD stack, rather than implementing their own. That's what the BSD project(s) excel at. The BSD code provides openly available 'reference designs' that anybody else can make use of. It has the positive effect that most of the Internet (Linux is one of the rare exceptions, btw) uses the same code base to talk. That's called enhanced operability and it's the kind of thing that used to be praised. Linux, with it's own stack, is the child that doesn't always 'play nice' with everyone else.
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That isn't fair to say. There are numerous other fine Operating Systems that people can use. The commercial Unixes are all viable. So is Netware. The new MacOS is coming on strong.
It's a mistake to focus only on Windows (which is a viable option, mind you), because you just makes it seem like Linux is the ONLY other option.
Hell, if you want a freenix, any of the three BSD variants are more viable than Linux. Unless you're a college kid in a dorm who wants all the 'latest' (as in- anything more than a year old, of course) wingie-dingie stuff.
Linux is a fine robust Operating System. When compared to Minix, which is really only the 'Ensigns training ship' Operating System, and that's all it tries to be.
It does not matter one way or the other wether Microsoft made mistakes in the case. They are one of the interested parties. Jackson was supposed to be impartial. That's why he was the judge. His reputation rides on this case, and from what has already been seen, he's screwed up before.
What do I think? I think you're obsessed with a 'circle the wagons' 'focus inward' mentality. Near as I can tell all you are motivated by is simple hatred of Microsoft.
You should include examples like Sun's blatant efforts to completely 0wn the Java 'standard' and try to balance out your point of view. Microsoft is not the 'great Satan' of IT firms. They have a habit of trying to take things over, but many firms do that as well.
Try not to make your primary focus Hatred of Microsoft. You'll find there's a big world out there and opposition to Microsoft isn't the only guide to go by in forming your ideology.
Man can not live on bile alone.
A "Standard" specifies a certain set of qualities. I don't know why you insist on ascribing levels. A standard can specify a very low level of quality. The minimum standards to graduate from High School in America, for example.
I have USB speakers, and a USB scanner. When I get my next latop, I will be able to carry my nice light scanner with me to the library.
Neither works in Linux. Both (now) work in Windows 2000. The speakers had BETTER work, of course, as they're Microsoft brand.
I happily removed myself from the contant upgrade cycle years ago by committing to only use 8-bit MFM Hard disk controllers. Sure my system is hellaciously noisy, since I'm using a whole stack of Seagate ST-225 20 meg hard drives, and the 65 mSec access time is a bit slow, but I can plug in a drive manufactured years ago, often without losing throughput. It's a bit of a hassle getting started, of course, as few distros give you a pre-compiled kernel with the '8-bit controller' option enabled. But it's definitely worth it in the long run!
The RS-232 4 milliampere current loop interface has been a standard for a long time. Don't make the mistake of using the new-fangled and still unproven +/- 12 volt serial interface. My 110 baud ASR-33 teletype ROCKS, man! You wouldn't believe how much faster I can edit text than back when I used an old 50 baud model.
So I agree, stick with standards for a long time. Don't mess with damn fool gear like video displays, keyboards, etc. Throw it all away and compile in serial console support to use your yellow paper teletype terminal. The current-loop adapter to attach your teletype to what was formerly the modem port of your Athlon is a cool hack you can show off to your friends!
You'll get used to ED or EX. Because, of course, you won't even be able to use vi anymore.
That's a choice people need to be free to make.
I chose to NOT buy my new stereo gear at Best Buy. It's all cheap garbage. I can't afford 'the best' but I can definitely afford to be discerning. So I bought a Yamaha Integrated Amp and Klipsch speakers. It wasn't that expensive, it's a medium to long term purchase (it replaced a Karmon-Kardon Vacuum Tube Integrated Amp I bought in a thrift store fifteen years ago...)
What makes you think it's a bad thing that we're free to choose?
Montreal, btw, is the only city left in North America where one is encouraged to live a life outside of work/home.
That's a rather peculiar thing for you to say.
Granted, I am sitting here at home typing this. But through my open window I hear the kids out at the park playing ball. Often enough adult ball games are being played out there as well. And guess what? Those people are encouraged to be out there by the Park & Recreation folks who put out flyers, organize leagues, etc.
One thing for certain is that I am NOT in Montreal. (but it's also a nice place to live, just like where I am in the 'Twin Cities' of Minnesota)
If I had a BS degree in engineering, I would be making $30-50k more than I am with a two year tech degree and over a decade of experience.
I wish I'd gone the extra time back when it was easier than it would be now.
Speaking as somebody who just last month made the last payment on his Saturn, I am looking forward to the next few years when the car is effectively 'free.' The term of the car payments is about the same as the term of a lease, and the payments were about the same. And in either case there was a 'down payment' up front.
StrongArm is in use all over industry. The embedded market for ARM chips is exploding.
And those little boxes Corel used to make are SA powered, with a Linux port running on them.
And, of course Strong Arm runs NetBSD...
Funny. When I try to browse that link you sent, all my IE 5.0 on Windows 2000 does is pop up an error message.
Maybe I'll have to browse it tomorrow at work in Netscape on the Solaris box in the lab (using Exceed, of course, the ultimate window manager).
Code morphing is just the buzzword, to distinguish these things from other processors. Nobody is gonna want to swap in and out different microcode between applications. Odds are these things will be strapped down tight executing x86 code for the entire life of the part.
I mean, really. These are just FPGA chips with fancy marketing bolted on (**). Without Linus Torvalds in a glass display case in the lobby of corporate headquarters, nobody would even be paying attention to Transmeta.
(** and a few patents to make it seem special. Oh, that's right. We're supposed to hate companies that patent things....)
Yes, indeed. Ages ago in computer years, Intel came out with that marvelous piece of silicon known as the 486-SX. Elves throughout the Intel plant worked strenuously with a scratch awl, digging out that floating point silicon.
These days, Intel doesn't have the time, nor the resources, to engage in such operations themselves. They've got Xeons to pump out. So they've partnered with Transmeta, who are proud to introduce . . .
Crusoe- also known as . . .
. . . the Pentium-SX ! ! !
For those light duty machines ladies often carry in their handbags. Truly the derringer of microprocessors.
First, about the idea of American Indians as environmental icons. This is idiotic. They were living with fucking stone age technology. They couldn't damage the environment if they wanted to.
Actually, the fossil record in North America shows that before the Indians came over from Asia, there were horse-like animals here on the North American continent. The Indians wiped the species out without bothering to train them for transport. They were probably good eating.
Hey! I've got Emma Goldman's autobiography (a 1930's first edition copy), and I've read it.
I've also got her book 'My Disillusionment in Russia' which tells of the mess she found when she was exiled into Soviet Russia for being an Anarchist.
Hell, I've even got a Dead Kennedys album or two.
And, of course, the all-important copy of Grimm's Fairy Tales. Gotta bulk up the 'fantasy' section of the library somehow.
That's all fun stuff to dream about.
An old time lefty who I've finally been able to shake off, someone from the 60's who I admired in my idealistic youth, a guy who used to live and breathe 'Anarchist' hype, has found his way halfway into reality. He still sputters and fumes and spews out class-war rhetoric. But he also plays around a lot with online-trading. When he isn't letching over a female lab assistant 30 years younger than he is.
Anarchy is a fun hobby, like building model railroads.
Companies should make decisions democratically
Yeah, right. The cleaning crew shouldn't just come in after hours and empty the wastebaskets, they should leave a few schematics on the whiteboard on their way through the cubicle farm.
Companies should be owned by their workers, and not outside investors.
That sounds great to me. Fire anybody on staff who can't afford a proprotional share in the company.
But I think the best way to make the environment cleaner is to place a financial premium on clean technology.
And here I thought we'd just gotten through discussing the fact that it's in any businesses financial interest to embrace more efficient ('cleaner') technology.
Are you saying government bureaucrats will be better at deciding how to make industrial operations cleaner and more efficient than the experts who operate those plants?
The key is to get government out of the business of managing business. Give people back a direct stake in how they run their operations. Part of that is rolling back even FURTHER government intrusion into everyday life.
A rich industrialist will only clean up his act and spend the additional money to make his plant cleaner and more efficient if he sees a reason. One reason that comes to mind is his concern for the next generation. The next generation is his grandkids. When he sees most of his wealth expropriated in the form of inheritance taxation, it becomes a 'what's the use, may as well just aim for the short term bottom line' decision for him. So he hires an MBA to run the operation and moves to Florida. To fix this we need to get rid of Inheritance taxes altogether.
Common sense ideas like this just don't get enough exposure, it seems. Instead we have people who've made the mistake of going through college without any practical application for what they learned (social workers, political science types, hyphenated-american studes majors, etc.) scrambling to justify their meal ticket with more contrived spun-up bullsh*t theories, involving further state intervention. They've fooled themselves into thinking what they do is for 'the good of the people.' It's time to stop them from fooling the rest of us.
You didn't even have to think before responding to what he said there, did you??
Free Software = Software with Freedom.
Free Market = A Marketplace with Freedom.
I can't even figure out, and I suspect nobody else will be able to, either, what the hell your response had to do with what he said.
Taken from the summary:
One of these ideas is totally eliminating personal income tax, and instead taxing the use or waste of natural resource;
This sounds like something true Libertarians would run away from screaming. The personal income tax was not devised to manipulate and control the market. So here we have these supposed advocates of 'freedom' advocating further, and far more pervasive government intervention in the marketplace. Claiming that it is 'natural' and based on some sort of natural law of how things work is so contrived I can't imagine it's an error on the author's part. It's outright deceitful.
I'm sorry. The kind of people I remember back in college being really into Amory Lovins philosophical outlook seemed on the surface to be all free and natural. They were actually some of the biggest advocates of state intervention in the economy. You know the type. The Ralf Naderish *PIRG people.
When my brother-in-law was in Engineering school the geeky engineering type students took over the local PIRG organization one year and completely shut it down. Don't let the type of people with ideas like 'Natural Capitalism' convince you they're cool and geeky tech freaks. They're the OPPOSITE of hackers. Hackers develop cool ideas and make them happen in reality. These people write a book, and sell it to liberals as something to use to get more government programs running.
It is probably a GPL violation that Microsoft purchased, rather than committed themselves. Interix was developed by Softway Systems and Microsoft only purchased Software about a half year ago. Softway was an NT Source license holder, under NDA.
This category seems a lot like Usenet. Less consistent than the usual discussions on /.
/. site, with all the wandering discussions weaved together like a newsgroup. Except each mini-Usenet dies and is tucked away in an archive after a day or so.
It's like a little mini-Usenet built inside the
Are there any Microsoft modifications?
I would say the burden of proof lies with you.
I've built some Linux and Unix code on Interix. Very little of it (if it's portable code, and not based in Linux-only functionality) required adapting to build.
Are you a paid Interix customer? If not, you don't belong in any discussion of 'breach of contract.'
The BSD software gets around, too.
Yes. Almost every OS except Linux uses the BSD stack, rather than implementing their own. That's what the BSD project(s) excel at. The BSD code provides openly available 'reference designs' that anybody else can make use of. It has the positive effect that most of the Internet (Linux is one of the rare exceptions, btw) uses the same code base to talk. That's called enhanced operability and it's the kind of thing that used to be praised. Linux, with it's own stack, is the child that doesn't always 'play nice' with everyone else.