>>>Oh sure, there was an appeal's process, but it is up to me to wait in line to be absolved of the sin I never committed.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. All you have to do is file a counter-claim that says, "This does not infringe copyright. The music is public domain and the visual is my own content." Takes less than a minute. Not much of a line!
If google.com refuses THEN you can sue them in a court of law for censoring your content (under the provisions of the DMCA). Of course google is well aware of this which is why they will put your video back up. They have no desire to be sued by an angry customer (or the negative publicity it will generate).
>>>it's not easy finding DACs and FPGAs with the bandwidth and clocking speeds necessary to drive the radio without a lot of discrete components;
My model airplane radio does both frequency hopping and interference mitigation (so two or more radios can braodcast at the same time). Heck so too does a cellphone. I'm not understanding why you say it's not possible yet?
I have no idea what you're talking about, but here's what actually happened: The Worldcon played clips of the show Doctor Who, and the AI Bot interpreted that as BBC-copyrighted material (because it is). And under DMCA ustream.com is given immunity, just as youtube or googlevideos or any other streaming site is given immunity when they mistakenly takedown material.
Perhaps the WorldCon could claim breach-of-contract and sue to have their money refunded. That might be a possible avenue they could win.
I also want to comment that we have Too Much entertainment in the world.....more than any one person can keep-up with (I have a whole hard drive full of movies, tv shows, and books I'll probably never read). We don't need stronger enforcement of artistic works to encourage more productivity. We need less artistic productivity.
>>>I wonder if they could be gotten for breach of contract.
They CAN be sued, but I doubt the WorldCon would win the case due to the DMCA (U.S. law). They are granted immunity for implementing procedures to protect copyrighted material (in this case: Doctor Who). On the other hand maybe the Worldcon would be lucky enough to find a judge who doesn't like the DMCA, but I doubt it. They have to run reelection campaigns just like any other politicians, and they wouldn't want to pissoff their corporate backers.
The problem here is that Ustream, Youtube, and other don't program their AI bots to recognize fair use (snippets of a program are okay).
>>>You can get a RV site with full hookups (water, sewer + power, sometimes cable TV and internet too) for around $20 - $50/day.
So basically the same price as a hotel. But without the extra $10,000 pricetag of the RV. And those "secluded" RV parks you talk about probably wouldn't have internet access due to their remoteness... not something I can live without.
>>>I think it is extremely hypocritical for all the Android fanbois to call for a boycott of Apple because of the Apple/Samsung lawsuit, but at the same time, give a free pass to both Google and Samsung for their abuses
I boycott all of them. If they hand me something for free (like windows or 5 gigabytes of googledrive) I'll use it but I haven't sent a single dime to any of these companies in ten years.
That's nice. Why don't we look at the Net Neutrality bill, see how many congressional representatives voted for it, and then look to see which ones of them were funded by Comcast? The corporation got exactly the law it paid for: One which would allow them to treat their own data differently from competitors' data.
>>>Is it fair for them to get this free thing, even thought they're doing nothing for it?
For items that are ethereal ideas/concepts? No. Let the lazyass kids WORK instead of relying on their dead dad to support them. I certainly wouldn't want my kids to be fat&lazy for the next 100 years living off proceeds from the schematics I create. That just generates sloth and parasitism.
>>>the Liberals(left) have come to power over it, and they keep sloshing around the "try to ban kids from working on the farm"
Although it's popular to believe it is Christians that like to control your life, I've found the left-leaning politicians FAR more proficient at this. Christians just thump their bibles while liberals pass actual laws *forcing* you to live according to their own beliefs. Like your example: Forcing farmers' kids not to farm.
>>>Are you saying at the moment of death it should become public domain?
Either that, or have the work expire after one generation (20 years after book published)..... just long enough that the author does not need to worry if his kids will be left penniless. After 20 years they will be adults and can provide for themselves through Working instead of being lazy bums. Though I honestly don't know why an author would need to worry..... orphaned kids qualify for food stamps, welfare, free housing, and SCHIP (like medicare).
So authors can write a book and get paid for the next 110 years per U.S. law (not just a contract but an actual law enforced by the government with $750,000 fine for every file copied to a friend).
Plus their kids, grandkids, great-grandkids can also get paid, even though they never did an ounce of work in their life. BUT customers should be perfectly-happy if their ebooks or esongs no longer work after the ~20 year license ends (or if they get hit by a car and die; they the license expires immediately). Yeah that's fucking fair.
No wonder I have ZERO sympathy as you sit in your gold-lined palaces at Sony Records or Warner records or whereeever the hell you work.
Or just download the college lectures from Teaching Company which discuss the history of English and Indo-european. I listened to them while driving to work (and at work)..... good stuff.
Wait for the band or singer to release the inevitable Greatest Hits CD and buy that instead. That's what I do. Another option is to just rip if off youtube. (shhh)
Interesting. I just had a debate with another slashdotter (bws111) about authors' rights. I said when an author like JRR Tolkien dies, his heirs should no longer get paid, because the kids are not the ones who did the work. Only the original laborer should receive money.
The other slashdotter said the Author's kids should be paid. I wonder how he feels about iTunes songs? I suspect he wold be opposed to the idea that songs can be passed generation-to-generation because it would cut into his earnings. And also:
Because I've found authors/artists often expect their work should continue receiving money for 110 years (almost six generations), but they want to terminate the customer's use of the work as soon as possible. Like ten if they could get away with it. It's an unfair and double standard.
Comcast didn't start giving its user free videos (they don't count toward the 250GB cap) until AFTER the net neutrality rule was passed. Basically comcast held back until they got permission from the government, and then they went non-neutral.
>>>A lot of voters don't seem to read all the novels - so a substantial number vote for what they've read
This used to be an accurate statement, but it is no more. Everybody who votes gets a free copy of all 5 novels (and novellas and short stories and.....). I'm sure that they, like me, read through all five free books before voting for best novel.
I read a novel in 1-2 days. The shorts are like TV episodes..... about an hour each. Easily done. Oh and also: You can find all the shorts and novellas on the web for free. It's just a matter of searching.
>>>So authors are still content to rely on this outmodded must have a middleman "sucking me dry" concept, are they?
As if a book exists by itself. The authors need the following people: - an editor to turn their overlong tome into something people will be willing to read - an artist to create the cover (it's what sells books) - a publisher to contact the bookstores & stick the book onto shelves.
The alternative is to be like all those self-published authors on amazon.com that have poorly-written stories (needs an editor) filled with numerous typos, generic art covers (often look like porno mags) that only get around ten downloads (no publisher to push the book into B&N or Borders for the big sales).
I am surprised how many times "no award" was given. In every instance but one, there were some classic movies that should have won.
Example: The Day the Earth Caught Fire. Another example: Colossus The Forbin Project Another: Logan's Run Another: Twilight Zone 1963 (either the whole thing, or a single episode). It doesn't pay to be picky because when future generations look back and see "no award" they wonder if you were stupid. In all these cases the movies/shows I listed should have won an award.
>>>I don't what I find stranger, that Neil Gaiman actually took the time write a Dr. Who episode or that people really think it counts as SF.
I think you should be modded "troll". Of course Doctor Who counts as SF in the Hugo Award arena. Ditto past television winners like Babylon 5, Star Trek, and Twilight Zone. Where have you been??? (Trivia: Neil Geiman wrote an episode for not just Doctor Who, but also Babylon 5.)
>>>I'm convinced that literally everyone who talks shit about GoT is just trolling or trying to be a contrarian.
I thought it was boring. I downloaded the whole season but only watched about half of it. Then I lost interest. I'd rather watch a drama about real history. Or alt. history.
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>>>Oh sure, there was an appeal's process, but it is up to me to wait in line to be absolved of the sin I never committed.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. All you have to do is file a counter-claim that says, "This does not infringe copyright. The music is public domain and the visual is my own content." Takes less than a minute. Not much of a line!
If google.com refuses THEN you can sue them in a court of law for censoring your content (under the provisions of the DMCA). Of course google is well aware of this which is why they will put your video back up. They have no desire to be sued by an angry customer (or the negative publicity it will generate).
>>>will probably suffer for it in the long term if the "market" really works as the market lovers on slashdot says it does.
Already added Ustream to my facebook "boycott these corporations" note.
>>>it's not easy finding DACs and FPGAs with the bandwidth and clocking speeds necessary to drive the radio without a lot of discrete components;
My model airplane radio does both frequency hopping and interference mitigation (so two or more radios can braodcast at the same time). Heck so too does a cellphone. I'm not understanding why you say it's not possible yet?
I have no idea what you're talking about, but here's what actually happened: The Worldcon played clips of the show Doctor Who, and the AI Bot interpreted that as BBC-copyrighted material (because it is). And under DMCA ustream.com is given immunity, just as youtube or googlevideos or any other streaming site is given immunity when they mistakenly takedown material.
Perhaps the WorldCon could claim breach-of-contract and sue to have their money refunded. That might be a possible avenue they could win.
I also want to comment that we have Too Much entertainment in the world.....more than any one person can keep-up with (I have a whole hard drive full of movies, tv shows, and books I'll probably never read). We don't need stronger enforcement of artistic works to encourage more productivity. We need less artistic productivity.
>>>I wonder if they could be gotten for breach of contract.
They CAN be sued, but I doubt the WorldCon would win the case due to the DMCA (U.S. law). They are granted immunity for implementing procedures to protect copyrighted material (in this case: Doctor Who). On the other hand maybe the Worldcon would be lucky enough to find a judge who doesn't like the DMCA, but I doubt it. They have to run reelection campaigns just like any other politicians, and they wouldn't want to pissoff their corporate backers.
The problem here is that Ustream, Youtube, and other don't program their AI bots to recognize fair use (snippets of a program are okay).
>>>you are beating an old argument that has been put to rest to death.
No it hasn't. Apple Mac with i7, 8 gig of RAM, and 2 terabytes of drive space? Over $1300. Cost of my new compact PC with same specs. Half.
>>>You can get a RV site with full hookups (water, sewer + power, sometimes cable TV and internet too) for around $20 - $50/day.
So basically the same price as a hotel. But without the extra $10,000 pricetag of the RV. And those "secluded" RV parks you talk about probably wouldn't have internet access due to their remoteness... not something I can live without.
>>>I think it is extremely hypocritical for all the Android fanbois to call for a boycott of Apple because of the Apple/Samsung lawsuit, but at the same time, give a free pass to both Google and Samsung for their abuses
I boycott all of them.
If they hand me something for free (like windows or 5 gigabytes of googledrive) I'll use it but I haven't sent a single dime to any of these companies in ten years.
That's nice. Why don't we look at the Net Neutrality bill, see how many congressional representatives voted for it, and then look to see which ones of them were funded by Comcast? The corporation got exactly the law it paid for: One which would allow them to treat their own data differently from competitors' data.
>>>Is it fair for them to get this free thing, even thought they're doing nothing for it?
For items that are ethereal ideas/concepts? No. Let the lazyass kids WORK instead of relying on their dead dad to support them. I certainly wouldn't want my kids to be fat&lazy for the next 100 years living off proceeds from the schematics I create. That just generates sloth and parasitism.
>>>the Liberals(left) have come to power over it, and they keep sloshing around the "try to ban kids from working on the farm"
Although it's popular to believe it is Christians that like to control your life, I've found the left-leaning politicians FAR more proficient at this. Christians just thump their bibles while liberals pass actual laws *forcing* you to live according to their own beliefs. Like your example: Forcing farmers' kids not to farm.
Dicks.
>>>ex russian states
There is no such thing.
>>>Are you saying at the moment of death it should become public domain?
Either that, or have the work expire after one generation (20 years after book published)..... just long enough that the author does not need to worry if his kids will be left penniless. After 20 years they will be adults and can provide for themselves through Working instead of being lazy bums. Though I honestly don't know why an author would need to worry..... orphaned kids qualify for food stamps, welfare, free housing, and SCHIP (like medicare).
So authors can write a book and get paid for the next 110 years per U.S. law (not just a contract but an actual law enforced by the government with $750,000 fine for every file copied to a friend).
Plus their kids, grandkids, great-grandkids can also get paid, even though they never did an ounce of work in their life. BUT customers should be perfectly-happy if their ebooks or esongs no longer work after the ~20 year license ends (or if they get hit by a car and die; they the license expires immediately). Yeah that's fucking fair.
No wonder I have ZERO sympathy as you sit in your gold-lined palaces at Sony Records or Warner records or whereeever the hell you work.
Or just download the college lectures from Teaching Company which discuss the history of English and Indo-european. I listened to them while driving to work (and at work)..... good stuff.
>>>What if you only want one song off the album?
Wait for the band or singer to release the inevitable Greatest Hits CD and buy that instead. That's what I do. Another option is to just rip if off youtube. (shhh)
Interesting.
I just had a debate with another slashdotter (bws111) about authors' rights. I said when an author like JRR Tolkien dies, his heirs should no longer get paid, because the kids are not the ones who did the work. Only the original laborer should receive money.
The other slashdotter said the Author's kids should be paid. I wonder how he feels about iTunes songs? I suspect he wold be opposed to the idea that songs can be passed generation-to-generation because it would cut into his earnings. And also:
Because I've found authors/artists often expect their work should continue receiving money for 110 years (almost six generations), but they want to terminate the customer's use of the work as soon as possible. Like ten if they could get away with it. It's an unfair and double standard.
>>>Preferential routing was caused by regulation?
Comcast didn't start giving its user free videos (they don't count toward the 250GB cap) until AFTER the net neutrality rule was passed. Basically comcast held back until they got permission from the government, and then they went non-neutral.
>>>A lot of voters don't seem to read all the novels - so a substantial number vote for what they've read
This used to be an accurate statement, but it is no more. Everybody who votes gets a free copy of all 5 novels (and novellas and short stories and.....). I'm sure that they, like me, read through all five free books before voting for best novel.
I read a novel in 1-2 days. The shorts are like TV episodes..... about an hour each. Easily done. Oh and also: You can find all the shorts and novellas on the web for free. It's just a matter of searching.
P.S. Babylon 5 and Lost were not allowed to nominate a whole season, even though both were continuing stories just like Game of Thrones.
>>>So authors are still content to rely on this outmodded must have a middleman "sucking me dry" concept, are they?
As if a book exists by itself. The authors need the following people:
- an editor to turn their overlong tome into something people will be willing to read
- an artist to create the cover (it's what sells books)
- a publisher to contact the bookstores & stick the book onto shelves.
The alternative is to be like all those self-published authors on amazon.com that have poorly-written stories (needs an editor) filled with numerous typos, generic art covers (often look like porno mags) that only get around ten downloads (no publisher to push the book into B&N or Borders for the big sales).
I am surprised how many times "no award" was given. In every instance but one, there were some classic movies that should have won.
Example: The Day the Earth Caught Fire.
Another example: Colossus The Forbin Project
Another: Logan's Run
Another: Twilight Zone 1963 (either the whole thing, or a single episode). It doesn't pay to be picky because when future generations look back and see "no award" they wonder if you were stupid. In all these cases the movies/shows I listed should have won an award.
>>>I don't what I find stranger, that Neil Gaiman actually took the time write a Dr. Who episode or that people really think it counts as SF.
I think you should be modded "troll". Of course Doctor Who counts as SF in the Hugo Award arena. Ditto past television winners like Babylon 5, Star Trek, and Twilight Zone. Where have you been??? (Trivia: Neil Geiman wrote an episode for not just Doctor Who, but also Babylon 5.)
>>>I'm convinced that literally everyone who talks shit about GoT is just trolling or trying to be a contrarian.
I thought it was boring. I downloaded the whole season but only watched about half of it. Then I lost interest. I'd rather watch a drama about real history. Or alt. history.