Hmmm. Apparently the price went up since I last looked. When I was deciding between an Insight or Civic (~10 years ago), the Civic Hybrid was only $19,500 for the base model.
So yes that does change my math..... the standard civic would be cheaper. I wonder what made Honda decide to increase they hybrid's pricetag 4000 dollars. Pretty stupid move (IMHO).
>>> it's becoming more and more obvious that hybrids are destined to be a short-lived stepping stone and not the long-term solution to our oil and pollution problems
Yes because an electric car can really carry me 150 miles per day on my work commute. (Not.) By the way according to the GREET study performed by the government, the most efficient car would be a Hybrid diesel. The diesel provides the compact energy format (150,000BTU/gallon), the high-efficiency engine (22:1 compression), and the hybridization provides the constant power curve. Like a modern locomotive.
>>>STILL use outdated nimh batteries instead of lithium
Lithium-ion is explosive (see the various laptop and iPod videos). Putting that next to a gasoline-filled tank == unwise. Also NiMH is not environmentally-toxic so it is the greener choice versus lithium.
And supercaps hold very little energy. Enough for a few seconds "takeoff" and that's it. Battery makes more sense since they can hold upto 5 minutes of full acceleration (not all at once of course).
What cost difference? A Hybrid Civic is not any more expensive than a standard Civic. And with gasoline approaching $5/gallon, it won't take long to recoup costs. ~50mpg Hybrid vs. ~35mpg civic == $3600 saved during each 100,000 miles driven.
My Honda Insight has served me beautifully, with almost 90 MPG lifetime average (I drive a slow 50mph). And it wasn't any more expensive than a regular car. My only disappointment is the lack of diesel hybrids. Many of them come with small 75hp engines, so they could use the extra 15hp that a Honda-style motor provides.
I bet Jack Tramel's death won't get the kind of coverage that Steve Jobs got. His 6502 CPU (plus variants) were used in Atari 2600/5200/7800 consoles, Atari computers, Apple I/II/IIgs computers, Nintendo ES and Super Nintendo consoles. His Commodore and Atari companies popularized music, video, and preemptive tasking when the Macs/PCs were going "beep" and had about 4 colors.
And yet after today we'll probably never hear about him again. And yes the Commodore 64 was and still is the record-holder for most machines sold (peak years: 1983-86). The runner-ups:
What's that? You think in black-and-white, and therefore believe if I hate Obama I must automatically love Reagan/Bush? Well, color me UNsurprised (lots of black-and-white thinkers in the world). The fact is: I don't see any difference between Bush/Obama/Romney. They all look alike, and the first two should be tried for war crimes.
Isn't that the same CEO who was caught on tape promising to give negative NPR coverage for Republicans and good coverage for liberals? Maybe she should follow her own rules.
Ooops my mistake. It was one of her executives. He was not fired. Because it's okay to hate on Repubs and adore the Dems:
"The current Republican Party, particularly the Tea Party, is fanatically involved in peopleâ(TM)s personal lives and very fundamental Christian â" I wouldnâ(TM)t even call it Christian. Itâ(TM)s this weird evangelical kind of move," declared Schiller, the head of NPRâ(TM)s nonprofit foundation. The man posing as Malik finishes the sentence by adding, "the radical, racist, Islamaphobic, Tea Party people." Schiller agrees and goes on to describe liberals as more intelligent and informed than conservatives. "In my personal opinion, liberals today might be more educated, fair and balanced than conservatives," he said.
NPR is really no different than the lies coming from FOX and NBC.
Trusting NPR to tell the truth makes as little sense as asking Sony, "Did you install CD rootkits?" and they reply "No." The *independent* numbers I've seen put it at 8 million out of ~50 million operating budget, which is 15%. That's 15% more than it should be (because I oppose all forms of corporate welfare).
8 million dollars from the U.S. and Member State governments sounds like more than nothing.
And yes I know Juan said something racist (though I don't remember what). That's why I used it as an example of how a black reporter can get fired too. Though I don't think he should have been:
"I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous." So do I. I also get nervous around big burly rednecks. And motorcyclists with knives hanging off their belts. And police men. And.....
>>>NPR is "government funded" like oil companies are "government funded".
Really? The oil companies get billions-of-dollars in U.S. Treasury checks like NPR and PBS do? Hmmmm. I. Did not. Know that. (Probably because your statement is false.)
Ron Paul gave a speech last year about his very subject (prisons are mostly filled with blacks). He also argued that the Drug Prohibition is mostly targeted against blacks, and therefore it's a racist policy that needs to be ended.
>>>got a harsh lesson in anti-white racism by getting my ass kicked for about the 10th time at said school
More recent example:
A white guy was beat-up by some blacks who said, "This is for Trayvon." In other words it was a revenge attack against white people. (Never mind that the killer was actually hispanic; not part of the white majority. News orgs like NBC have twisted the story.) Of course the blacks were not charged for a hate crime. Or assault. Just disorderly behavior.
I recall the government-funded NPR recently fired a black reporter after he made a guest appearance on FOX and said some things NPR did not like. So to answer your question: Yes.
The ideal would be no censorship but of course that doesn't apply to private organizations. They censor things all the time.
>>> 40 miles from Cleveland and OTA broadcast reception totally bites
Hmmm. I get reception from 50-55 miles out. But then I also have a large antenna (CM4228). The weaker power levels of digital television no longer work with the tiny antennas, unless you're within 20 miles range.
Problem with that argument is Romney flew down to Washington and helped write the national healthcare bill. Afterwards he bragged he was proud to have helped make it happen (there's video on youtube). So apparently he was FOR national health care in 2009. Except now he's not. Flip flop mitt.
What if Caesar demands 100%? Or if caesar orders us into a concentration camp, because we're asian? What then Jesus?
BTW most of Jesus' words are not his words. They were written decades after his death by church members who had never met the man. (Just like the story about George Washington chopping-down a cherry tree.) (Or the story about King Arthur.)
I'm curious how this will all work out. In our American union (US), Amazon only has to pay income taxes to its home state (California?) and none of the other states (unless they have a warehouse located there). Does the same principle apply to the European Union? Is Amazon only required to pay income tax to Luxembourg and no other state?
Corporations like NBC, ABC, FOX bundle all their channels together. They know channels like Bravo, Toon, or Fox Movies would not sell, but other channels like USA, Disney, or FX are popular. They tell the cable companies, "If you want USA then you have to buy *all* our NBC channels. CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, Syfy, and so on."
ABC/Disney and FOX does the same with their plethora of channels. Basically they are blackmailing the cable companies to buy all ~10 of their channels in a single bundle, even those that are barely watched.
So don't blame Comcast or Time-Warner or Cox. The blame goes higher-up to the actual channel owners.
>>> Even the SyFy network might tank, as people would have to ask themselves "do I really want to pay for stuff like Megacroc vs. Giantshark"?
I would pay for their original series (Being Human, Eureka, Stargate, and reruns of Twilight Zone/other classics). I don't like all that "reality" crap on the other channels. In fact I DID pay extra back in the 90s. Syfy cost $5 extra, and yet it still managed to survive (and grow).
Though they should probably rename themselves "Fantasy" because that's really all the show anymore. The science fiction kinda died out..... not just on syfy, but also in books. Fantasy is outselling SF almost 10-to-1 now (so claims Gardner Dozois and a few others).
>>>Nobody actually WANTS to pay for all those shopping, religious nut, cable access bullshit channels.
I used to have limited cable for $7/month. It came with all the locals and the shopping channels, plus CSPAN. Reason: All those channels were either free or dirt cheap (locals are usually 1 cent each). It's not until you get to the "real" channels like TNT or CNN that they charge ~50 cents to the cable company, so they are only available in more pricey tiers.
That requires wireless doesn't? And Hulu Plus? My DSL didn't come with a wireless modem, so I guess I'd have to spend an extra ~$100 in order to make Roku work?
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Hmmm. Apparently the price went up since I last looked. When I was deciding between an Insight or Civic (~10 years ago), the Civic Hybrid was only $19,500 for the base model.
So yes that does change my math..... the standard civic would be cheaper. I wonder what made Honda decide to increase they hybrid's pricetag 4000 dollars. Pretty stupid move (IMHO).
>>> it's becoming more and more obvious that hybrids are destined to be a short-lived stepping stone and not the long-term solution to our oil and pollution problems
Yes because an electric car can really carry me 150 miles per day on my work commute. (Not.) By the way according to the GREET study performed by the government, the most efficient car would be a Hybrid diesel. The diesel provides the compact energy format (150,000BTU/gallon), the high-efficiency engine (22:1 compression), and the hybridization provides the constant power curve. Like a modern locomotive.
>>>STILL use outdated nimh batteries instead of lithium
Lithium-ion is explosive (see the various laptop and iPod videos). Putting that next to a gasoline-filled tank == unwise. Also NiMH is not environmentally-toxic so it is the greener choice versus lithium.
And supercaps hold very little energy. Enough for a few seconds "takeoff" and that's it. Battery makes more sense since they can hold upto 5 minutes of full acceleration (not all at once of course).
Why do diesel fans always assume it's TDI versus Hybrid? Here's a thought experiment for you:
- 60MPG Polo TDI with 15 second 0-to-60 acceleration.
- 60MPG Polo TDI with Hybrid motor == 9 second 0-to-60 acceleration
I would choose the second over the first, because it has the same economy but much better acceleration.
What cost difference? A Hybrid Civic is not any more expensive than a standard Civic. And with gasoline approaching $5/gallon, it won't take long to recoup costs. ~50mpg Hybrid vs. ~35mpg civic == $3600 saved during each 100,000 miles driven.
My Honda Insight has served me beautifully, with almost 90 MPG lifetime average (I drive a slow 50mph). And it wasn't any more expensive than a regular car. My only disappointment is the lack of diesel hybrids. Many of them come with small 75hp engines, so they could use the extra 15hp that a Honda-style motor provides.
I bet Jack Tramel's death won't get the kind of coverage that Steve Jobs got. His 6502 CPU (plus variants) were used in Atari 2600/5200/7800 consoles, Atari computers, Apple I/II/IIgs computers, Nintendo ES and Super Nintendo consoles. His Commodore and Atari companies popularized music, video, and preemptive tasking when the Macs/PCs were going "beep" and had about 4 colors.
And yet after today we'll probably never hear about him again. And yes the Commodore 64 was and still is the record-holder for most machines sold (peak years: 1983-86). The runner-ups:
2. Amiga 500 (millions of C64 owners upgraded)
3. Atari 800 (peak year: 1980-82)
4. Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 (1977-1979)
What's that? You think in black-and-white, and therefore believe if I hate Obama I must automatically love Reagan/Bush? Well, color me UNsurprised (lots of black-and-white thinkers in the world). The fact is: I don't see any difference between Bush/Obama/Romney. They all look alike, and the first two should be tried for war crimes.
And here are the flags of al-Queda flying over Libya's government buildings; Obama/Sarkozy helped a terrorist organization take over and called it "victory". I could post thousands of these articles but I'll just start with one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055630/Flying-proudly-birthplace-Libyas-revolution-flag-Al-Qaeda.html
Google if you want to see more.
Isn't that the same CEO who was caught on tape promising to give negative NPR coverage for Republicans and good coverage for liberals? Maybe she should follow her own rules.
Ooops my mistake. It was one of her executives. He was not fired. Because it's okay to hate on Repubs and adore the Dems:
"The current Republican Party, particularly the Tea Party, is fanatically involved in peopleâ(TM)s personal lives and very fundamental Christian â" I wouldnâ(TM)t even call it Christian. Itâ(TM)s this weird evangelical kind of move," declared Schiller, the head of NPRâ(TM)s nonprofit foundation. The man posing as Malik finishes the sentence by adding, "the radical, racist, Islamaphobic, Tea Party people." Schiller agrees and goes on to describe liberals as more intelligent and informed than conservatives. "In my personal opinion, liberals today might be more educated, fair and balanced than conservatives," he said.
NPR is really no different than the lies coming from FOX and NBC.
Trusting NPR to tell the truth makes as little sense as asking Sony, "Did you install CD rootkits?" and they reply "No." The *independent* numbers I've seen put it at 8 million out of ~50 million operating budget, which is 15%. That's 15% more than it should be (because I oppose all forms of corporate welfare).
8 million dollars from the U.S. and Member State governments sounds like more than nothing.
And yes I know Juan said something racist (though I don't remember what). That's why I used it as an example of how a black reporter can get fired too. Though I don't think he should have been:
"I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous." So do I. I also get nervous around big burly rednecks. And motorcyclists with knives hanging off their belts. And police men. And.....
>>>NPR is "government funded" like oil companies are "government funded".
Really? The oil companies get billions-of-dollars in U.S. Treasury checks like NPR and PBS do? Hmmmm. I. Did not. Know that. (Probably because your statement is false.)
>>>avoid conversation with unknown [...] people.
This is a wiser way of life (IMHO). Trust no one. Especially people working for corporations & governments.
Ron Paul gave a speech last year about his very subject (prisons are mostly filled with blacks). He also argued that the Drug Prohibition is mostly targeted against blacks, and therefore it's a racist policy that needs to be ended.
Oh! I thought you were talking about Obama/Sarkozy's assisting Al-queda take over Libya.
>>>got a harsh lesson in anti-white racism by getting my ass kicked for about the 10th time at said school
More recent example:
A white guy was beat-up by some blacks who said, "This is for Trayvon." In other words it was a revenge attack against white people. (Never mind that the killer was actually hispanic; not part of the white majority. News orgs like NBC have twisted the story.) Of course the blacks were not charged for a hate crime. Or assault. Just disorderly behavior.
I recall the government-funded NPR recently fired a black reporter after he made a guest appearance on FOX and said some things NPR did not like. So to answer your question: Yes.
The ideal would be no censorship but of course that doesn't apply to private organizations. They censor things all the time.
>>> 40 miles from Cleveland and OTA broadcast reception totally bites
Hmmm. I get reception from 50-55 miles out. But then I also have a large antenna (CM4228). The weaker power levels of digital television no longer work with the tiny antennas, unless you're within 20 miles range.
Problem with that argument is Romney flew down to Washington and helped write the national healthcare bill. Afterwards he bragged he was proud to have helped make it happen (there's video on youtube). So apparently he was FOR national health care in 2009. Except now he's not. Flip flop mitt.
What if Caesar demands 100%? Or if caesar orders us into a concentration camp, because we're asian? What then Jesus?
BTW most of Jesus' words are not his words. They were written decades after his death by church members who had never met the man. (Just like the story about George Washington chopping-down a cherry tree.) (Or the story about King Arthur.)
I'm curious how this will all work out. In our American union (US), Amazon only has to pay income taxes to its home state (California?) and none of the other states (unless they have a warehouse located there). Does the same principle apply to the European Union? Is Amazon only required to pay income tax to Luxembourg and no other state?
Corporations like NBC, ABC, FOX bundle all their channels together. They know channels like Bravo, Toon, or Fox Movies would not sell, but other channels like USA, Disney, or FX are popular. They tell the cable companies, "If you want USA then you have to buy *all* our NBC channels. CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, Syfy, and so on."
ABC/Disney and FOX does the same with their plethora of channels. Basically they are blackmailing the cable companies to buy all ~10 of their channels in a single bundle, even those that are barely watched.
So don't blame Comcast or Time-Warner or Cox. The blame goes higher-up to the actual channel owners.
>>> Even the SyFy network might tank, as people would have to ask themselves "do I really want to pay for stuff like Megacroc vs. Giantshark"?
I would pay for their original series (Being Human, Eureka, Stargate, and reruns of Twilight Zone/other classics). I don't like all that "reality" crap on the other channels. In fact I DID pay extra back in the 90s. Syfy cost $5 extra, and yet it still managed to survive (and grow).
Though they should probably rename themselves "Fantasy" because that's really all the show anymore. The science fiction kinda died out..... not just on syfy, but also in books. Fantasy is outselling SF almost 10-to-1 now (so claims Gardner Dozois and a few others).
>>>Nobody actually WANTS to pay for all those shopping, religious nut, cable access bullshit channels.
I used to have limited cable for $7/month. It came with all the locals and the shopping channels, plus CSPAN. Reason: All those channels were either free or dirt cheap (locals are usually 1 cent each). It's not until you get to the "real" channels like TNT or CNN that they charge ~50 cents to the cable company, so they are only available in more pricey tiers.
>>>I use a Roku box
That requires wireless doesn't? And Hulu Plus? My DSL didn't come with a wireless modem, so I guess I'd have to spend an extra ~$100 in order to make Roku work?