This will set China's progress back 20 years ! The last software I used that was written in China, sucked SO BAD that I could do nothing but throw the CD in the trash. It was worthless !
What a bone headed move. I've been in this business since you were a toddler and you NEVER quit until you have a new gig lined up unless you've been harassed or otherwise abused.
1. You quit a (good ?) paying job for a seemingly trivial reason. Bad move. 2. You missed the opportunity to learn a new development language and tool. Bad move. 3. As a good developer, one must embrace change or it will devour you.
In the 20+ years I've been a developer, only once have I quit without having a new gig lined up. In that case I filed a suit against the CEO and prevailed.
Get used to change. It's part of the job. If you hate the new owners, learn C# and Visual Studio and THEN look for another position. You passed up FREE training
The RIAA has been raping children for years (charging them $18 for a CD with 12 songs). Even with the price drop, it's still rape. Children are NOT the people who seek out CHILD pornography. I know this as a fact because I have 2 boys in my home. They want to see MATURE (looking) women with great big 'bazookas', not flat chest-ed 9 year old little girls. For a 15 yr old boy, this is normal, natural and even healthy (not to mention reassuring that I may one day be a grandfather). The people that seek out child porn are adults, sick adults, but adults none the less. The RIAA seems to think that it's children seeking this stuff out. They are truely lost souls...
This is the equivalent to outlawing cars because pedophiles use them to abduct kids.
Back to the rape, maybe the RIAA is getting jealous after watching the kiddy porn on the P2P networks.
RIAA's intent with this bill: "Nobody can rape those kids but the RIAA"
Master the English language before you post... Please...
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I don't know about other Firewalls but the one I use (Sygate) has this nasty habit of poping up when a new application want access to the net. Actually I like this "feature". If an application that you don't recognize as a network application and that you didn't install "pops up" then you'll know something is sending info about you out. I usually answer 'No" unless I know the app. This stops "AdWare" too. Be aware of the fact that these "spy" programs may be disguising themselves as/in OS utilities.
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You obviously don't have any children and, more than likely, are one yourself. Good parents monitor what their kids do all the damn time. It's a real pain in the ass sometimes. I have three boys and you have to watch the younger ones all the time. If you're not watching where your kids surf, you are an irresponsible parent. Even the screwed up state of California agrees with that. As a parent, there is a time where you stop looking after your children, it's called death.
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To be honest, making Spector "hidden" was not very difficult. Making it's activity hidden was the hardest part. I mean, how do you write data to a file and not get it noticed ?
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I agree. An an original author of this product, it was never intended to "spy" on others. It was developed so parents would know what "junior" is up to on the 'Net. Whether to do something about the sites a kid visits is up to the (perhaps less techno savy) parent. Fourth ammendment... that EXACTLY why I sold my shares & got out of this company...
That won't do it. You won't find Spector there... I'm limited on what I can say (by contract), but I can say that this would not stop Spector.
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I was one of the original authors and an original founder back in '98. We sold our shares in '99 and got out because of the way it was being marketed. The product was never intended to be a "Catch your cheating husband" type of product. It was intended to monitor your child's Internet experiences and protect them from pedophiles. Doug Fowler (dfowler@spectorsoft.com) was the guy that pushed this tactic of spying on your partner and your employees. We felt that monitoring another adult, without their knowledge, clearly violated their civil rights! They avoid lawsuits now by placing a disclaimer that you agree to inform the individual that you monitor. In reality, no one ever does. It's a classic case of the marketing weenies convoluting a product to fit a malformed business model. There's MORE MONEY selling a product to catch your "cheating husband" than to protect your kids. It feed on paranoia.
The good news is most developers could spot this product on their machine. Keystrokes slow down, mystery files appear, etc. It leaves a small footprint, but it's still a footprint. Don't look for it (Spector) in Task Manager. It's hiding in another application.
I Strongly agree. Comparing C and Java is "apples and oranges". They are two completly different languages, created for two distinctly different purposes. Some people seem to have forgotten this. There are so many factors that this comparison neglects, it's hard to take the results seriously.
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This will set China's progress back 20 years !
The last software I used that was written in China, sucked SO BAD that I could do nothing but throw the CD in the trash. It was worthless !
Maybe they should stick to Happy Meal toys...
Wow
Now I guess I gotta find some other excuse to go to Vegas and hang out at Crazy Horse (a topless bar) for a week.
What a bone headed move. I've been in this business since you were a toddler and you NEVER quit until you have a new gig lined up unless you've been harassed or otherwise abused.
1. You quit a (good ?) paying job for a seemingly trivial reason. Bad move.
2. You missed the opportunity to learn a new development language and tool. Bad move.
3. As a good developer, one must embrace change or it will devour you.
In the 20+ years I've been a developer, only once have I quit without having a new gig lined up. In that case I filed a suit against the CEO and prevailed.
Get used to change. It's part of the job. If you hate the new owners, learn C# and Visual Studio and THEN look for another position. You passed up FREE training
The RIAA has been raping children for years (charging them $18 for a CD with 12 songs). Even with the price drop, it's still rape.
Children are NOT the people who seek out CHILD pornography. I know this as a fact because I have 2 boys in my home. They want to see MATURE (looking) women with great big 'bazookas', not flat chest-ed 9 year old little girls. For a 15 yr old boy, this is normal, natural and even healthy (not to mention reassuring that I may one day be a grandfather).
The people that seek out child porn are adults, sick adults, but adults none the less. The RIAA seems to think that it's children seeking this stuff out. They are truely lost souls...
This is the equivalent to outlawing cars because pedophiles use them to abduct kids.
Back to the rape, maybe the RIAA is getting jealous after watching the kiddy porn on the P2P networks.
RIAA's intent with this bill: "Nobody can rape those kids but the RIAA"
I'd suggest a spell check next time....
Master the English language before you post...
Please...
I don't know about other Firewalls but the one I use (Sygate) has this nasty habit of poping up when a new application want access to the net. Actually I like this "feature".
If an application that you don't recognize as a network application and that you didn't install "pops up" then you'll know something is sending info about you out. I usually answer 'No" unless I know the app. This stops "AdWare" too.
Be aware of the fact that these "spy" programs may be disguising themselves as/in OS utilities.
You obviously don't have any children and, more than likely, are one yourself.
Good parents monitor what their kids do all the damn time. It's a real pain in the ass sometimes. I have three boys and you have to watch the younger ones all the time.
If you're not watching where your kids surf, you are an irresponsible parent. Even the screwed up state of California agrees with that.
As a parent, there is a time where you stop looking after your children, it's called death.
To be honest, making Spector "hidden" was not very difficult. Making it's activity hidden was the hardest part.
I mean, how do you write data to a file and not get it noticed ?
I agree. An an original author of this product, it was never intended to "spy" on others. It was developed so parents would know what "junior" is up to on the 'Net. Whether to do something about the sites a kid visits is up to the (perhaps less techno savy) parent.
Fourth ammendment... that EXACTLY why I sold my shares & got out of this company...
That won't do it.
You won't find Spector there...
I'm limited on what I can say (by contract), but I can say that this would not stop Spector.
I was one of the original authors and an original founder back in '98. We sold our shares in '99 and got out because of the way it was being marketed. The product was never intended to be a "Catch your cheating husband" type of product. It was intended to monitor your child's Internet experiences and protect them from pedophiles. Doug Fowler (dfowler@spectorsoft.com) was the guy that pushed this tactic of spying on your partner and your employees. We felt that monitoring another adult, without their knowledge, clearly violated their civil rights! They avoid lawsuits now by placing a disclaimer that you agree to inform the individual that you monitor. In reality, no one ever does.
It's a classic case of the marketing weenies convoluting a product to fit a malformed business model. There's MORE MONEY selling a product to catch your "cheating husband" than to protect your kids. It feed on paranoia.
The good news is most developers could spot this product on their machine. Keystrokes slow down, mystery files appear, etc. It leaves a small footprint, but it's still a footprint. Don't look for it (Spector) in Task Manager. It's hiding in another application.
Your absolutly correct. To quote the patent: "Security system for" NAT. The patent applies to the use of NAT as a security measure, not to NAT alone.
I Strongly agree. Comparing C and Java is "apples and oranges". They are two completly different languages, created for two distinctly different purposes. Some people seem to have forgotten this. There are so many factors that this comparison neglects, it's hard to take the results seriously.