Also, the US Army was officially created on 3 June 1784, but they trace their date of inception to 14 June 1775 when the Continental Army was formed. Likewise, the Navy was formed 13 October 1775.
Nowhere did I say that *all* of the lib arts requirements were bullshit. Psychology and various writing classes were useful. Microbiology and ancient world history, not so much. However, all of the bullshit requirements were for lib arts classes.
I got a Bachelors in Network Administration from a state school. It wasn't required for my current job, but it certainly helped get me noticed and hired. Beyond that, the main advantage of the degree was having hands-on experience with Cisco gear and server OSes in a simulated production environment. Of course, you could find a training course that does that for much cheaper and without the bullshit lib arts requirements. In the end, I'd say it was worth it because I was able to get it at a reputable state school and my ending loans were about 2/3rds of my first year's salary, which wasn't bad at all. I certainly wouldn't have paid private school tuition for it.
When XP came out, most hard drives were under 10GB. 20GB was considered large. When Windows 8 came out, 500 to 1000GB was the norm and 2000-3000GB wasn't uncommon. It was rare to see any drives under 250GB. SSDs were only starting to become mainstream, but they still really aren't.
So if we do the math, XP itself would take up 20% or more of a normal hard drive at the time. Windows 8 would only take up 4% of a normal hard drive or 8% of a small hard drive when it came out. If you give developers more hardware, they'll damn well be sure to use it.
Vista, 7 and 8 are different OSes. Sure, they want you to buy a new one (EVERY company does that regardless of product), but we're talking about the lifespan from launch until EOL.
Windows Vista, launched late 2006, EOL is mid-2017. That's a lifespan of over 10 years. Windows 7, launched mid-2009, EOL is early 2020. That's a lifespan of over 10 years. Windows 8, launched late-2012, EOL is early 2023. That's a lifespan of over 10 years.
And, of course, that all assumes they don't extend EOL like they did XP.
The point is that most people bitching about the cost of a Windows 8 license don't compare it to what they spend on other things. They'll buy a $500 smartphone or a $50 pair of jeans and won't bat an eye. Also, pray tell how spending under $200 on my household's groceries for a month is "over-consuming"?
When Windows 8 first came out, an upgrade license was $40, although there were various promotions that would let you get anywhere from $5 to $15 off. I used it to upgrade from Win 7 Ultimate to Win 8 Pro, found that some of my video drivers weren't available for Win 8 yet (when it was brand new), so I went back to Win 7. The deal lasted from launch until Jan 31, 2013.
"The Windows XP start menu is a menu, with popup submenus. I have hundreds of applications sorted into categories. Everything that can be configured to be a submenu is. All "last used", "most used", "never used" features are turned off and respective menu items hidden. I don't need my OS to handhold me through my data or applications."
How is this any different from the Windows 7 menu? Windows 7 added features, like the search box, but otherwise it has pretty much all of the same features as the XP menu. Some default settings might be different, but those can be changed in the time it takes to make a post about how they're bad.
If it won't run older programs, it's probably because you're comparing Win7 x64 to WinXP x86. I have Win7 x86 on my old Thinkpad T60 and it will run anything that XP x86 ran on that box, including many 16 bit games. As for the bugginess, that probably has more to do with his porn habits - you'd likely see even worse problems if he did the same things on an XP box.
I have a 1984 Tandy 1000 that does exactly what I need it to do - give me bragging rights in Internet threads about how my niche usage case is relevant to all users, everywhere.
How exactly is the Win 7 Start menu a shadow of XP's? Personally, I thought the search box in 7's Start menu blew away anything it's predecessors had going for them.
If you consider that a horrific sum of money, I'd hate to see what you think of my monthly grocery bill, or gas for two weeks. I paid $35 for a Windows 8 license when it first came out... I still use Windows 7 for now, but I have the license to upgrade to once I'm convinced 8.1 has the bugs shaken out.
This isn't a new problem. We still have Windows 95 and OS/2 boxes that can't be upgraded. The only difference with the XP end of life is that XP is easier to continue to support yourself.
CVT doesn't have gears. Instead, it smoothly "shifts" by making its pulleys wider or narrower. The angled gap that the belt rides on thus gets bigger or smaller, which takes the place of having separate gears.
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"Assuming you're not a felon, a weapon should be in every single citizen's possession."
Even then, there's plenty of non-violent felons that I would be ok with owning guns.
Also, the US Army was officially created on 3 June 1784, but they trace their date of inception to 14 June 1775 when the Continental Army was formed. Likewise, the Navy was formed 13 October 1775.
Nowhere did I say that *all* of the lib arts requirements were bullshit. Psychology and various writing classes were useful. Microbiology and ancient world history, not so much. However, all of the bullshit requirements were for lib arts classes.
I got a Bachelors in Network Administration from a state school. It wasn't required for my current job, but it certainly helped get me noticed and hired. Beyond that, the main advantage of the degree was having hands-on experience with Cisco gear and server OSes in a simulated production environment. Of course, you could find a training course that does that for much cheaper and without the bullshit lib arts requirements. In the end, I'd say it was worth it because I was able to get it at a reputable state school and my ending loans were about 2/3rds of my first year's salary, which wasn't bad at all. I certainly wouldn't have paid private school tuition for it.
It's the difference between "I still use XP" and "I still need XP".
That would be an entirely different debate.
When XP came out, most hard drives were under 10GB. 20GB was considered large. When Windows 8 came out, 500 to 1000GB was the norm and 2000-3000GB wasn't uncommon. It was rare to see any drives under 250GB. SSDs were only starting to become mainstream, but they still really aren't.
So if we do the math, XP itself would take up 20% or more of a normal hard drive at the time. Windows 8 would only take up 4% of a normal hard drive or 8% of a small hard drive when it came out. If you give developers more hardware, they'll damn well be sure to use it.
Vista, 7 and 8 are different OSes. Sure, they want you to buy a new one (EVERY company does that regardless of product), but we're talking about the lifespan from launch until EOL.
Windows Vista, launched late 2006, EOL is mid-2017. That's a lifespan of over 10 years.
Windows 7, launched mid-2009, EOL is early 2020. That's a lifespan of over 10 years.
Windows 8, launched late-2012, EOL is early 2023. That's a lifespan of over 10 years.
And, of course, that all assumes they don't extend EOL like they did XP.
You can't steal something that's being given away for free!
The point is that most people bitching about the cost of a Windows 8 license don't compare it to what they spend on other things. They'll buy a $500 smartphone or a $50 pair of jeans and won't bat an eye. Also, pray tell how spending under $200 on my household's groceries for a month is "over-consuming"?
You do realize that Windows 7 has that same Windows Classic theme, right?
When Windows 8 first came out, an upgrade license was $40, although there were various promotions that would let you get anywhere from $5 to $15 off. I used it to upgrade from Win 7 Ultimate to Win 8 Pro, found that some of my video drivers weren't available for Win 8 yet (when it was brand new), so I went back to Win 7. The deal lasted from launch until Jan 31, 2013.
"The Windows XP start menu is a menu, with popup submenus. I have hundreds of applications sorted into categories. Everything that can be configured to be a submenu is. All "last used", "most used", "never used" features are turned off and respective menu items hidden. I don't need my OS to handhold me through my data or applications."
How is this any different from the Windows 7 menu? Windows 7 added features, like the search box, but otherwise it has pretty much all of the same features as the XP menu. Some default settings might be different, but those can be changed in the time it takes to make a post about how they're bad.
If it won't run older programs, it's probably because you're comparing Win7 x64 to WinXP x86. I have Win7 x86 on my old Thinkpad T60 and it will run anything that XP x86 ran on that box, including many 16 bit games. As for the bugginess, that probably has more to do with his porn habits - you'd likely see even worse problems if he did the same things on an XP box.
I have a 1984 Tandy 1000 that does exactly what I need it to do - give me bragging rights in Internet threads about how my niche usage case is relevant to all users, everywhere.
So what kept you from just using XP x64, if 64bit was your only reason to upgrade?
"It's supposed to pop-up a dozen midget goat porn ads every time you open IE!"
In the opinion of Microsoft, and many IT workers, XP has been in the crap heap for a couple years now when compared to Windows 7.
How exactly is the Win 7 Start menu a shadow of XP's? Personally, I thought the search box in 7's Start menu blew away anything it's predecessors had going for them.
If you consider that a horrific sum of money, I'd hate to see what you think of my monthly grocery bill, or gas for two weeks. I paid $35 for a Windows 8 license when it first came out... I still use Windows 7 for now, but I have the license to upgrade to once I'm convinced 8.1 has the bugs shaken out.
This isn't a new problem. We still have Windows 95 and OS/2 boxes that can't be upgraded. The only difference with the XP end of life is that XP is easier to continue to support yourself.
"and yet I have never been infected, although online for hours each day."
There is a great, big difference between "have never been infected" and "have never been infected that I know of"
CVT doesn't have gears. Instead, it smoothly "shifts" by making its pulleys wider or narrower. The angled gap that the belt rides on thus gets bigger or smaller, which takes the place of having separate gears.
Or pedestrians with hearing problems. We exist too.
Let's see how much you get done on your Macs if we take away all of those Linux servers that aren't doing "real work"