An equally important copyright trial concluded this week in Manhattan, where movie industry lawyers have filed suit challenging the online publication of DVD source code
Hmmm dvd source code? No one published any dvd source code, however, if john is refering to decss, he should say "the decss source code", otherwise it's just confusing and silly.
I was refering to the headline of the article on the main page. I got all exicted when i really should not have, because technically, at the time it was posted, napster was not shut down, and the title "Napster Shut Down Until Trial" was pre-mature.
Ok, Napster has not been shut down, but the RIAA has ASKED A judge to shut it down. The following text was on the startup screen of napster today at 8:33 pm EST:
A Message to the Napster Community from Hank Barry, CEO and Shawn Fanning, Founder:
You have probably heard in the news about the recording industry's lawsuit against Napster. The RIAA has asked a federal judge to shut Napster down, and an important hearing will be held at 2:00 p.m. PDT Wednesday, July 26 at the U.S. District Court in San Francisco.
Wednesday at 7:00 p.m. PDT we will give the Napster community a brief update of what happened in the courtroom via a live webcast.
Thank you again for your continued support.
To prove this, I just downloaded Maxwell Murder by Rancid, and I am now chatting with my friends on Napster. I don't wanna be rude, but get the facts straight before you write an article!
Ok, america is not a democracy. For our presidential canditides, we always get two morons, who spend millions of dollors tell the poor and the rich that they will protect them from one another. Sure we have a 'liberal' president, but has anything really changed? I'm sure that a conservative would do the same things if there was enough public pressure (ok, unless he was someone like lbj- ick!)
Maybe if Nixon ever got any we wouldn't have had Vietnam for so long
Having a choice between only two people as we have is just about as bad as choosing between the two aliens who ran for president in that simpsons episode (Kang and Kudos?). Oh yea, don't forget the fact that the people who will be repressed by censorship software have ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN HOW THINGS ARE RUN.
I think you're right in the fact that america is screwed up, but don't forget that there are plenty of dissatisfied americans who don't like the way things are run. To quote Jello Biafra- "What would make america a real democracy is if we had a "none of the above" choice, and if that won the most votes, we would have a whole new election with all new canditates."
In conclusion- we're not all content to be repressed, a lot of us have no say in how the goverment is run when we are persecuted (I speak on behalf of the socialist/commuist/anarchist parties here), and no, we don't all hate pr0n. It's just the fools who are good enough liars to get elected who are against freedom.
Rember back about 8 years ago when there was a senate committie addressing the issue of gays in the military, and all the senators would have trouble pronoucing the word 'homosexual', as if saying it might make them turn gay or something?... anyway, it would be funny to see them saying "oral sex, anal sex, group sex, etc". Especially if you got into those really obscure fetishes.... But what I would hate is that a bunch of old senators saying dirty words would probably get more news coveradge than the DeCSS case has gotten so far.
I read the article and it looked really neat, but I just wish that they would come out with an automatic transmission version. I know that there's sort of this big macho thing where if I can't drive a stick shift I'm some how less of a man, but I think automatic trans is a lot more conveniant... like when you're trying to change a cd or drink something and you don't have a third hand to change gears.
Tell that to Mumia Abu-Jamal, or kevin mitnick, or anyone in hollywood during the 1940-50's who had possible ties to marxism.
Going after individuals without regard to the law is a tactic the united state's goverment has done, is done, and most likely will continue to do assuming there are no major chances in law enforcement policy.
...More specifically, it refers to any member of the mammal order Carnivora. The carnivores are at the top of the food chains that make up the food web of the earth's life forms. They feed on herbivores, or planteaters...
Ok, assuming we are both talking about the mammilian order Carnivora (of infraclass Eutheria, of subclass Theria), this statement is far from true. Members of this order can be described as Predatory mammals, however, this does not mean that they only prey on plant eating animals. Let's take a look at some common representitives of the order:
Dogs
cats
bears
raccoons
minks
sea lions
seals
walruses
otters
Most of these animals are far from being the apex predator in their particular biomes, and are indeed often preyed upon by other meat/meat&plant eating animals. Also, many of the aforementioned animals' prey are themselves carnivores/omnivores. Though this may be a little offtopic, it's annoying when people use zoology in vain.
Maybe this is borderline off topic, but during the early days of the fbi's war on organized crime, it was not legal for the agents to wiretap the phones and houses of mob bosses. This was mostly because J edgar Hoover was busy chasing after communists and socialists to make his agency looks statistically well, and he knew that trying to stop the mob was going to be a mess. But regardless of this, the FBI wiretapped the phones and homes of suspected members of the mob for years, although they had no warrants to do so, and it was illegal.
Anyway, I'm just saying that in the past, the FBI has illegally wiretapped "suspicous" citizens, and it could happen again. History has a funny charateristic of repeating itself a lot.
There was a show on this last weekend on either the discovery or history channel, but i forget which... anyway.
This is just another scary example of how corporations are taking the place of the police. I recently read an interesting article about the FBI's invasion of people's (civil rights leaders, socialists, unions, etc) privacy here. I think the only diffrence is that this company is doing this from behind a computer, instead of putting bugs and wiretaps in your house... and they are doing it for profit rather than even the (often flimsy) argument that the privacy invasion they take place in is in the intrests of national security.
Oh c'mon- they just stole that from Back to the Future: Part III where the kid was wearing a silly cowboy costume and he got beat up by all the real cowboys when he went back in time.
Maybe this is a total waste of electricity but like i've got anything better to do:)
The views that are expressed on the web are those of a priviliged class who do not have to suffer the effects of current liberal free-market policies and the increasing divide between the rich and the poor.
I think you're wrong in your underestimation of deviant political material on the web. I think that despite the fact that most people with web access (i.e. have fast computers w/56k modems at home) who are your middle aged white middle-upper class people are usually the ones who don't use the net as much as they could, because they are too busy working at corporations.
There's lots of younger people who like the net and certianally don't express the views of the stereotypical "privlidged class". Heck, rebellious teenagers alone probablly make up quite a large percentage of the people who USE the net (i.e. run around making web pages, chatting with imaginary internet friends, etc). Punks who hate their rich parents have been around for a long time, and I just think you underestimate their numbers online.
I agree with that... but you left out one big point. With tv, you just sit there and hope that some corporation decides that educational programming will make them rich... which is not often, hence the lack of real educational programming (besides the discovery channel).
But with the net you aren't just sitting on the reciving end. you go out and get what you want, instead of hoping someone just gives it to you. TV would only be like this if there was like 538594353768353945306473^43930323020302 channels.
"The Internet," Roszak recently told The Dallas Morning News, "offers electronic graffiti. The idea that they should be swimming in a sea of information is idiotic.
sure... but the internet also offers the greatest amount of information on every topic anyone has ever thought of EVER.
Is it nessessarily a bad thing to be exposed to the dark underbelly of socioty? Should we all just pretend that nothing bad exists and live in the perfect false world that our teachers and parents wish we did?
Learning is not just memozing facts. That's the part of learning that you only use about 10% of in your real life. The part of my childhood learning i most use was the learning about people and socioty and how things work (or don't work). And most of that I have learned online because my parents and school are afraid to fill our minds with anything that challanges traditional conservative thought.
Telling parents and teachers that the internet is a bad thing for kids is a step backward in socioty. I suppose that as a teenager today, I grew up on the internet, but also I have recived most of my education for my future job(s) there, while at school we're all just doing busy work. I don't think that a single bad thing has come of my early exposure to the internet, other than awareness of the what the world is really like- not the state sponsored channel one crap.
Yea, the thing about america today is that the companies which control it have gotten so big through mergers and (insert buisness term that i do not know here) that it is almost impossible to decide the outcome of the company if you don't buy their product. This is especially compounded when the company you hate is also in control of the media (i.e. mpaa ):
I'm not saying that It's impossible for one person to change everything, cause the only reason that anything gets done is cause a bunch of individuals get together and stand up for what they belive in (i.e. unions), but it's kinda hard when a company is soooooooo huge like the mega corps here.
"Piracy" is an issue that I like to be fanatical about. I remeber when teachers taught us that sharing was nice... now they teach us sharing is illegal. I don't think "pirating" music or video hurts anyone except the big fat buisness men. It's so horribly capitalist to sue people for being kind to other people instead of the corporations
Ok, so this is what I have learned from my adventures with the DeCSS case. Disney is a big part of the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) which includes all the big movie companies (Ex: Time Warner, 20th Century Fox, Paramount... etc). One of the MPAA's jobs is to try and stop piracy of videos, dvd's, or what have you.
For this reason, the MPAA is in kahoots with the DVD-CCA (DVD-Copy-Contol-Association). They came up with the CSS (Contents Scrambling System) encryption scheme which allowed them to make DVD's only playable in certian regions at certian times.
That's part of the reason why they are trying to stop the spread of DeCSS (Which is futile), because it threatens their control of the global movie industry.
If you are interested you can download DeCSS here, or learn more about the case at 2600 and opendvd.org ...I hope that link doesn't get/. in too much trouble:)
When I was 12 I didn't have much to do. I discovered something called a computer. I met all these cool people all over the world just like me that I could talk to. But guess what? I met this cool dude at my school who was the technology admin. He told me that it is a good idea not to give out my personal information over the (fledgling) internet.
And I haven't been molested by a pedophile yet
The point of this post is that there are many simpler and much less-repressive ways to protect our children.
My dear fellow Americans, it is with a heavy heart that today I give you the following message. Over the past few years, the internet has proved to be a very dangerous place. Our children are constantly exposed to unwanted elements of socioty, commerical web sites have be taken over by computer hackers, not even your own goverment itself has been free from the evil the internet has brought upon the world
I belive it is imparative for the Welfare of the United States that the computers are no longer in service. Starting next week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been given permission to seize and destroy any/all computers found in the united states. Anyone found hoarding technology will be met with harsh punishment.
I thank you for your support in my signing of the National Computer Saftey Bill.
Jon writes books, not slashdot articles. You make the Human Genome Project look like it was some big secret thing, I remeber learning about it in school years before it was completed. Another thing... I don't get why you're rants seem to pass as news. I mean, I usually agree with what jon is saying, be we all know that this was completed, and it is not nessessary to write about concerns that lots of people have over genetics, that's not news.
Come back when you have a story about the goverment growing a race of super-soldiers or cloning presidents, ok?
Even if there is a theoretical limit on radio frequencies available, there are other telecom carrier methods.
There are no theoretical limits on radio frequencies availible, because there are limits on radio frequencies availible. They start around 20,000Hz, and end way up there when you start getting into light. I'm not sure of the exact frequency, but I think someone already posted it on this article.
However, useable frequencies are limited, but they can still be increased by the application of more sensitive equipement and transmission modes (like NFM, SNFM).
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An equally important copyright trial concluded this week in Manhattan, where movie industry lawyers have filed suit challenging the online publication of DVD source code
Hmmm dvd source code? No one published any dvd source code, however, if john is refering to decss, he should say "the decss source code", otherwise it's just confusing and silly.
I was refering to the headline of the article on the main page. I got all exicted when i really should not have, because technically, at the time it was posted, napster was not shut down, and the title "Napster Shut Down Until Trial" was pre-mature.
Sorry if that came off wrong.
Ok, Napster has not been shut down, but the RIAA has ASKED A judge to shut it down. The following text was on the startup screen of napster today at 8:33 pm EST:
A Message to the Napster Community from Hank Barry, CEO and Shawn Fanning, Founder:
You have probably heard in the news about the recording industry's lawsuit against Napster. The RIAA has asked a federal judge to shut Napster down, and an important hearing will be held at 2:00 p.m. PDT Wednesday, July 26 at the U.S. District Court in San Francisco.
Wednesday at 7:00 p.m. PDT we will give the Napster community a brief update of what happened in the courtroom via a live webcast.
Thank you again for your continued support.
To prove this, I just downloaded Maxwell Murder by Rancid, and I am now chatting with my friends on Napster. I don't wanna be rude, but get the facts straight before you write an article!
Ok, america is not a democracy. For our presidential canditides, we always get two morons, who spend millions of dollors tell the poor and the rich that they will protect them from one another. Sure we have a 'liberal' president, but has anything really changed? I'm sure that a conservative would do the same things if there was enough public pressure (ok, unless he was someone like lbj- ick!)
Maybe if Nixon ever got any we wouldn't have had Vietnam for so long
Having a choice between only two people as we have is just about as bad as choosing between the two aliens who ran for president in that simpsons episode (Kang and Kudos?). Oh yea, don't forget the fact that the people who will be repressed by censorship software have ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN HOW THINGS ARE RUN.
I think you're right in the fact that america is screwed up, but don't forget that there are plenty of dissatisfied americans who don't like the way things are run. To quote Jello Biafra- "What would make america a real democracy is if we had a "none of the above" choice, and if that won the most votes, we would have a whole new election with all new canditates."
In conclusion- we're not all content to be repressed, a lot of us have no say in how the goverment is run when we are persecuted (I speak on behalf of the socialist/commuist/anarchist parties here), and no, we don't all hate pr0n. It's just the fools who are good enough liars to get elected who are against freedom.
Rember back about 8 years ago when there was a senate committie addressing the issue of gays in the military, and all the senators would have trouble pronoucing the word 'homosexual', as if saying it might make them turn gay or something?... anyway, it would be funny to see them saying "oral sex, anal sex, group sex, etc". Especially if you got into those really obscure fetishes.... But what I would hate is that a bunch of old senators saying dirty words would probably get more news coveradge than the DeCSS case has gotten so far.
Oh yea, no /.er should be without mebership in peacefire
I read the article and it looked really neat, but I just wish that they would come out with an automatic transmission version. I know that there's sort of this big macho thing where if I can't drive a stick shift I'm some how less of a man, but I think automatic trans is a lot more conveniant... like when you're trying to change a cd or drink something and you don't have a third hand to change gears.
Tell that to Mumia Abu-Jamal, or kevin mitnick, or anyone in hollywood during the 1940-50's who had possible ties to marxism.
Going after individuals without regard to the law is a tactic the united state's goverment has done, is done, and most likely will continue to do assuming there are no major chances in law enforcement policy.
Ok, assuming we are both talking about the mammilian order Carnivora (of infraclass Eutheria, of subclass Theria), this statement is far from true. Members of this order can be described as Predatory mammals, however, this does not mean that they only prey on plant eating animals. Let's take a look at some common representitives of the order:
Dogs
cats
bears
raccoons
minks
sea lions
seals
walruses
otters
Most of these animals are far from being the apex predator in their particular biomes, and are indeed often preyed upon by other meat/meat&plant eating animals. Also, many of the aforementioned animals' prey are themselves carnivores/omnivores. Though this may be a little offtopic, it's annoying when people use zoology in vain.
Maybe this is borderline off topic, but during the early days of the fbi's war on organized crime, it was not legal for the agents to wiretap the phones and houses of mob bosses. This was mostly because J edgar Hoover was busy chasing after communists and socialists to make his agency looks statistically well, and he knew that trying to stop the mob was going to be a mess. But regardless of this, the FBI wiretapped the phones and homes of suspected members of the mob for years, although they had no warrants to do so, and it was illegal.
Anyway, I'm just saying that in the past, the FBI has illegally wiretapped "suspicous" citizens, and it could happen again. History has a funny charateristic of repeating itself a lot.
There was a show on this last weekend on either the discovery or history channel, but i forget which... anyway.
This is just another scary example of how corporations are taking the place of the police. I recently read an interesting article about the FBI's invasion of people's (civil rights leaders, socialists, unions, etc) privacy here. I think the only diffrence is that this company is doing this from behind a computer, instead of putting bugs and wiretaps in your house... and they are doing it for profit rather than even the (often flimsy) argument that the privacy invasion they take place in is in the intrests of national security.
National Socialism = National Coporatism ?
Oh c'mon- they just stole that from Back to the Future: Part III where the kid was wearing a silly cowboy costume and he got beat up by all the real cowboys when he went back in time.
Maybe this is a total waste of electricity but like i've got anything better to do :)
The views that are expressed on the web are those of a priviliged class who do not have to suffer the effects of current liberal free-market policies and the increasing divide between the rich and the poor.
I think you're wrong in your underestimation of deviant political material on the web. I think that despite the fact that most people with web access (i.e. have fast computers w/56k modems at home) who are your middle aged white middle-upper class people are usually the ones who don't use the net as much as they could, because they are too busy working at corporations.
There's lots of younger people who like the net and certianally don't express the views of the stereotypical "privlidged class". Heck, rebellious teenagers alone probablly make up quite a large percentage of the people who USE the net (i.e. run around making web pages, chatting with imaginary internet friends, etc). Punks who hate their rich parents have been around for a long time, and I just think you underestimate their numbers online.
Don't belive me? Well here's Comrade John's Home Page for World Socialist Revolution as proof!
I agree with that... but you left out one big point. With tv, you just sit there and hope that some corporation decides that educational programming will make them rich... which is not often, hence the lack of real educational programming (besides the discovery channel).
But with the net you aren't just sitting on the reciving end. you go out and get what you want, instead of hoping someone just gives it to you. TV would only be like this if there was like 538594353768353945306473^43930323020302 channels.
"The Internet," Roszak recently told The Dallas Morning News, "offers electronic graffiti. The idea that they should be swimming in a sea of information is idiotic.
sure... but the internet also offers the greatest amount of information on every topic anyone has ever thought of EVER.
Is it nessessarily a bad thing to be exposed to the dark underbelly of socioty? Should we all just pretend that nothing bad exists and live in the perfect false world that our teachers and parents wish we did?
Learning is not just memozing facts. That's the part of learning that you only use about 10% of in your real life. The part of my childhood learning i most use was the learning about people and socioty and how things work (or don't work). And most of that I have learned online because my parents and school are afraid to fill our minds with anything that challanges traditional conservative thought.
Telling parents and teachers that the internet is a bad thing for kids is a step backward in socioty. I suppose that as a teenager today, I grew up on the internet, but also I have recived most of my education for my future job(s) there, while at school we're all just doing busy work. I don't think that a single bad thing has come of my early exposure to the internet, other than awareness of the what the world is really like- not the state sponsored channel one crap.
I think this article is baloney.
Yea, the thing about america today is that the companies which control it have gotten so big through mergers and (insert buisness term that i do not know here) that it is almost impossible to decide the outcome of the company if you don't buy their product. This is especially compounded when the company you hate is also in control of the media (i.e. mpaa ):
I'm not saying that It's impossible for one person to change everything, cause the only reason that anything gets done is cause a bunch of individuals get together and stand up for what they belive in (i.e. unions), but it's kinda hard when a company is soooooooo huge like the mega corps here.
I thought the interview said that http://www.sealandgov.com is the only official sea land site.
Yea, I read that in Wired... sounds pretty neat.
Oh yea, it's SCUBA (Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus), not suba. But technically it's not SCUBA because they are not underwater.
"Piracy" is an issue that I like to be fanatical about. I remeber when teachers taught us that sharing was nice... now they teach us sharing is illegal. I don't think "pirating" music or video hurts anyone except the big fat buisness men. It's so horribly capitalist to sue people for being kind to other people instead of the corporations
Does Disney even own the DVD rights in Japan?
Ok, so this is what I have learned from my adventures with the DeCSS case. Disney is a big part of the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) which includes all the big movie companies (Ex: Time Warner, 20th Century Fox, Paramount... etc). One of the MPAA's jobs is to try and stop piracy of videos, dvd's, or what have you.
For this reason, the MPAA is in kahoots with the DVD-CCA (DVD-Copy-Contol-Association). They came up with the CSS (Contents Scrambling System) encryption scheme which allowed them to make DVD's only playable in certian regions at certian times.
That's part of the reason why they are trying to stop the spread of DeCSS (Which is futile), because it threatens their control of the global movie industry.
If you are interested you can download DeCSS here, or learn more about the case at 2600 and opendvd.org
...I hope that link doesn't get /. in too much trouble :)
Thank goodness I live in a country that teaches its children from the time they are 13 that you have to lie to obtain basic human rights... like ICQ
When I was 12 I didn't have much to do. I discovered something called a computer. I met all these cool people all over the world just like me that I could talk to. But guess what? I met this cool dude at my school who was the technology admin. He told me that it is a good idea not to give out my personal information over the (fledgling) internet.
And I haven't been molested by a pedophile yet
The point of this post is that there are many simpler and much less-repressive ways to protect our children.
My dear fellow Americans, it is with a heavy heart that today I give you the following message. Over the past few years, the internet has proved to be a very dangerous place. Our children are constantly exposed to unwanted elements of socioty, commerical web sites have be taken over by computer hackers, not even your own goverment itself has been free from the evil the internet has brought upon the world
I belive it is imparative for the Welfare of the United States that the computers are no longer in service. Starting next week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been given permission to seize and destroy any/all computers found in the united states. Anyone found hoarding technology will be met with harsh punishment.
I thank you for your support in my signing of the National Computer Saftey Bill.
Jon writes books, not slashdot articles. You make the Human Genome Project look like it was some big secret thing, I remeber learning about it in school years before it was completed. Another thing... I don't get why you're rants seem to pass as news. I mean, I usually agree with what jon is saying, be we all know that this was completed, and it is not nessessary to write about concerns that lots of people have over genetics, that's not news.
Come back when you have a story about the goverment growing a race of super-soldiers or cloning presidents, ok?
Even if there is a theoretical limit on radio frequencies available, there are other telecom carrier methods.
There are no theoretical limits on radio frequencies availible, because there are limits on radio frequencies availible. They start around 20,000Hz, and end way up there when you start getting into light. I'm not sure of the exact frequency, but I think someone already posted it on this article.
However, useable frequencies are limited, but they can still be increased by the application of more sensitive equipement and transmission modes (like NFM, SNFM).
I thought that we called people who hyjacked web sites script kiddies.