A posts say they don't know any religous geeks, well I know more than a few fellow
Christian Geeks, so we're out there. and just to prove the point here are two famous Christian geeks to consider:
They treated the web and the net separately because, despite the fact that they are closely associated in the minds of many surfers, they comprise different networks. The web is a collection of pages connected by hyperlinks, whereas the internet is the physical network connected by data passing machines called routers.
It's obvious what happens when you take out the top four interesections in a city, you get gridlock. Yes you can go around but the side streets can't take the load. I don't see how routers are that different, so what they talk about seems to be the obvious bit.
I would have like to have heard what hapens when you take out the top 4% of linked sites. That would be the top 4% of the google database perhaps? Or the top 4% of initial starting pages on the web, ms.com ns.com, aol.com etc.
Oh well I guess the grass is allways more interesting on the other side.
OK Vancouver wins on looks and temperture hands down. And Jerico beach is nice.
But you won't buy a house there, unless you walk away from your IPO with multi millions.
The winter in Vancouver can be very depressing cause it rains and rains and rains. Ok it's cold here in Calgary, but then the next chinook blows in and the tempetur jumps 15 degrees and we get sun shine.
What about trafic? Many people in Vancouver spend hours and hours in their daily trip to work. Calgary has the worst trafic in Alberta, but it's nothing compared to Vancouver or Toronto.
One negitive about Calgary: it does get wierd weather. The weather in Alberta is a debate between Summer and Winter with lot's of heckling. In Calgary it's a WWF death match.
localman wrote: I would argue that you can't judge the merits of a language on it's "Hello World"
My response: I agree, my post was more about the "Obvious Java pitfalls " that limbo avoided. In hello world it doesn't avoid any "obvious Java pitfalls".
I was hoping people would point out the obvious things that I was missing. With real code examples, not just genral statements. Also limbo has been a bit of a sore point as I've been hearing about how it was going to kill Java since 95 (as part of inferno), so I might have been a bit harsh.
Didn't mean to slam limbo as a whole, was hoping to get some discustion at the level of actual code.
A string of Os and 1s, no matter how carefully modulated, means nothing unless it is eventually channeled, observed and understood by a recipient </QUOTE>
So if a stream fails in the forest and no one hears, there is no sound. Wow, I've been wondering about that for some time now I know.
As copy rights have grown longer than the average life span (the article gices examples of 144 years in some cases.)
Could a constitutional chalenge be mounted based on the fact that current copy right terms don't meet the stated intent of "limited times". Can "limited times." last longer than living memory?
I don't know about the politics of American constitutional law, but "reasonableness" is often sighted in Candian Supreme court rulings.
Duke Nukem 3D You Should Never get here was painted on the wall of a cave in Duke Nukem 3D, in the canyon level of the free demo. The only way to get there is to keep the jet pack from a previous level. The cave shoots plazma in regular bursts (I forget why), it's just above the lava leading to the alien mother ship.
Word Perfect DOS Had an error message that read: you should never see this message. I don't remember how to triger it.
Doom if you stand on some of the higher ledges (out side) in the original doom demo, look towards the horizon, you can see the white space where the landscape should have been, seems they never thought anyone would be able to find a spot to see over the wall.:)
The people doing the hiring are often looking for keywords, and often in things few people have cause it's new. Few HR people know how to match a resume to a job.
For instance a place looking for XML that turns down people with SGML(cause they don't know what it is), but hires HTML designers cause they thought XML came from HTML.
More source code is good no question, but Yet Another License sigh. I know (and agree) "Those who write/pay for the code get to choose the license." still how much does a custom licence buy you vs the cost of keeping all the licences rules in staight?
As I doubt your question will get moderated up, I thought I'd try an answer.
1) Would the user want to book mark the information in the right hand frame? If IE 5 is your standard browser this is not an issue.
2) Would anyone want to send a url that links to one page on the right hand side of the app? For instance the help desk might want to send an email saying the new customer form is here http://ourbox/ourapp/newcust.html
3) If some one does link to the right hand page of the app with out the enclosing frame does it still work? see Java Docs with Frames. They uses frames but if you direct link to the main content area it is still useable see: Java Docs No Frames
4) What is the impact of frames on printing information form your app
These are some of the questions you would need to answer before you can say that your app is an exception to the rule that frames suck most of the time. -Peace Dave
If you are planing to show this to your PHB some time in the future you might want to make a private mirror on your intranet now. In the past Gartner has taken links down. I'm not sure what thier window is before EOLing a document is, but I used to link to some of their stuff on Java and then it went away.
Of course Giskard had a nervous breakdown and died as a result of this though.... but Daneel went onto guide human kind to the stars. (We only find out how this ends with Foundation and Earth)
Giskard's nervous break down was the result of the action he took to make the earths crust radio acticve thus forcing the people of earth to flee, and to spread out into the universe.
Condeming millions if not billions to death caused his nervous break down.
Daneel did not take direct action in causing the earth to become radio active and thus did not suffer the nervous break down.
Slashdot Mirror
- JR Tolkien [if you don't think he counts see:
Engines of Our Ingenuity: C.S. LEWIS AND TOLKIEN
] What would geek life be without Lord of the Rings?
- Larry Wall, what would geekdom be without Perl? See Feed Mag on Larry Wall: Divine Invention
-Peace DaveMan is Toronto going to be ticked.
They are very fond of their tower. See CN Tower
My favorite quote form the story
I would have like to have heard what hapens when you take out the top 4% of linked sites. That would be the top 4% of the google database perhaps? Or the top 4% of initial starting pages on the web, ms.com ns.com, aol.com etc.
Oh well I guess the grass is allways more interesting on the other side.
Nah, in Hollywood he's type cast as "bald guy who looks good in a chair".
-Peace
Dave
I'm wondering how much karma the parot would colect on slashdot.
"Linux is faster than NT"
"Java should be GPLed"
"Music should be free"
"John Katz sucks"
"Pouring Hot Grits"
I'm sure we could teach it these simple lines. It would fit right in with the rest of us.
-Peace
Dave
OK Vancouver wins on looks and temperture hands down. And Jerico beach is nice.
But you won't buy a house there, unless you walk away from your IPO with multi millions.
The winter in Vancouver can be very depressing cause it rains and rains and rains. Ok it's cold here in Calgary, but then the next chinook blows in and the tempetur jumps 15 degrees and we get sun shine.
What about trafic? Many people in Vancouver spend hours and hours in their daily trip to work. Calgary has the worst trafic in Alberta, but it's nothing compared to Vancouver or Toronto.
One negitive about Calgary: it does get wierd weather. The weather in Alberta is a debate between Summer and Winter with lot's of heckling. In Calgary it's a WWF death match.
localman wrote:
I would argue that you can't judge the merits of a language on it's "Hello World"
My response:
I agree, my post was more about the "Obvious Java pitfalls " that limbo avoided. In hello world it doesn't avoid any "obvious Java pitfalls".
I was hoping people would point out the obvious things that I was missing. With real code examples, not just genral statements. Also limbo has been a bit of a sore point as I've been hearing about how it was going to kill Java since 95 (as part of inferno), so I might have been a bit harsh.
Didn't mean to slam limbo as a whole, was hoping to get some discustion at the level of actual code.
-Peace
Dave
A string of Os and 1s, no matter how carefully
modulated, means nothing unless it is eventually channeled, observed and understood by a recipient
</QUOTE>
So if a stream fails in the forest and no one hears, there is no sound. Wow, I've been wondering about that for some time now I know.
-Peace
Dave
implement Command;
include "sys.m";
include "draw.m";
sys: Sys;
Command: module
{
init: fn (ctxt: ref Draw->Context, argv: list of string);
};
# The canonical "Hello world" program, enhanced
init(ctxt: ref Draw->Context, argv: list of String)
{
sys = load Sys Sys->PATH;
sys->print("hello world\n");
for (; argv!=nil; argv = tl argv)
sys->print("%s ", hd argv);
sys->print("\n");
}
yeah, I'm sure glad limbo avoids those obvious Java pitfalls. Hello World in limbo is such a joy. I'm convinced.
As copy rights have grown longer than the average life span (the article gices examples of 144 years in some cases.)
Could a constitutional chalenge be mounted based on the fact that current copy right terms don't meet the stated intent of "limited times". Can "limited times." last longer than living memory?
I don't know about the politics of American constitutional law, but "reasonableness" is often sighted in Candian Supreme court rulings.
-Peace
Dave
You Should Never get here was painted on the wall of a cave in Duke Nukem 3D, in the canyon level of the free demo. The only way to get there is to keep the jet pack from a previous level. The cave shoots plazma in regular bursts (I forget why), it's just above the lava leading to the alien mother ship.
Word Perfect DOS
Had an error message that read: you should never see this message. I don't remember how to triger it.
Doom :)
if you stand on some of the higher ledges (out side) in the original doom demo, look towards the horizon, you can see the white space where the landscape should have been, seems they never thought anyone would be able to find a spot to see over the wall.
-Peace
Dave
It's just a number people!
Just wondering if stuff from HGTG has become more of a headache than you'd like from time to time, sort of like Leonard Nimoy and "I'm not Spock"
That said I caried a towel for a year in high school and they can be very handy.
-Peace
Dave
The people doing the hiring are often looking for keywords, and often in things few people have cause it's new. Few HR people know how to match a resume to a job.
For instance a place looking for XML that turns down people with SGML(cause they don't know what it is), but hires HTML designers cause they thought XML came from HTML.
-Peace
Dave
More source code is good no question, but Yet Another License sigh. I know (and agree) "Those who write/pay for the code get to choose the license." still how much does a custom licence buy you vs the cost of keeping all the licences rules in staight?
-Peace
Dave
> I'm not sure who to believe.
Well in my experiance, beliveing MS makes you feel like a sucker later.
-Peace
Dave
1) Would the user want to book mark the information in the right hand frame? If IE 5 is your standard browser this is not an issue.
2) Would anyone want to send a url that links to one page on the right hand side of the app? For instance the help desk might want to send an email saying the new customer form is here http://ourbox/ourapp/newcust.html
3) If some one does link to the right hand page of the app with out the enclosing frame does it still work? see Java Docs with Frames. They uses frames but if you direct link to the main content area it is still useable see: Java Docs No Frames
4) What is the impact of frames on printing information form your app
These are some of the questions you would need to answer before you can say that your app is an exception to the rule that frames suck most of the time. -Peace Dave
Article is Flaimbait
That is asking "Is it possible [MS] orchastrated the entire thing?" is flame bait.
MS is so good at FUD that they don't need to orchestrate something like this to create it. It's just their FUD machine capitalizing on an opportunity.
-Peace
Dave
-Peace
Dave
If you are planing to show this to your PHB some time in the future you might want to make a private mirror on your intranet now. In the past Gartner has taken links down. I'm not sure what thier window is before EOLing a document is, but I used to link to some of their stuff on Java and then it went away.
-Peace
Dave
- It creates the illusion of motion, making you feel like you're moving when you're not.
- It helps reduce Cyber Sickness by coordinating the visual and vestibular inputs.
- It GREATLY increases the realism, or presence, of an actor in a Virtual Environment.
I found it one the motionware site http://www.vm3.com/MotionWare/option01.htmlhmmm, does this mean that love songs will need to be updated?
...
<music>
When the moons hit your eyes like
<music&/gt;
There are still a billion folks in the world who haven't even made a phone call.
-Peace
Dave
Stuff like that make me smile ;)
-Peace
Dave
Giskard's nervous break down was the result of the action he took to make the earths crust radio acticve thus forcing the people of earth to flee, and to spread out into the universe.
Condeming millions if not billions to death caused his nervous break down.
Daneel did not take direct action in causing the earth to become radio active and thus did not suffer the nervous break down.