The Antarctic sea ice extent was not and is not projected to shrink in the near term.
Bzzz! False. Quoting the above-mentioned professor of "Climate Change" from Australia (emphasis mine): "Sea ice is disappearing due to climate change, but here ice is building up".
If you're not paying enough attention to the science to understand even that simple concept why should I think anything else you have to say is worth listening to.
You can keep looking for an excuse to ignore me — or just close your ears and sing "La-la-la". Truth remains — global warming was "oversold" to the general population by the usual alliance of the dishonest seeking to profit from the implementation of measures proposed to fight it and the stupid, who agreed with them.
The various dire predictions are failing to materialize — and even when they were made, none of his allies have questioned, why Al Gore himself purchased a wonderful piece of real estate on the coast rather than in the mountains somewhere.
To continue to push forward policies based on the same predictions — and the (pseudo-)scientific models that lead to them in the first place, is irresponsible if not outright criminal...
If it’s all a "liberal" conspiracy, what are they trying to gain?
All people already in government would gain increased governmental control over the citizenry's lives — the vast majority of them believe, they "know better" than their subjects — bless our little hearts — how to live. Which is why you haven't yet seen a "green" measure proposed, that reduced that control, have you?
In addition, the "green" measures cause the Capitalism to slow down — a cause dear to the Illiberals and the foreign handlers of some of them. Seriously, scratch a "green" activist, and you'll find a Che Guevara T-shirt underneath...
I can see what you get to gain by denying the problem exists
Could you be more specific? What do I get to gain? Do you suppose, I — or the KKKoch brothers — have a wonderful new planet for ourselves (or our children) to emigrate to, when Earth becomes too polluted? Some kind of Elysium being built for the 1%?
It makes no difference to the topic of dire predictions not materializing... Because it means, that other predictions made by the same people using the same methods aren't likely to materialize either — and thus any public policies based on such predictions should be scrapped.
Distinction without difference. Both ice caps were supposed to melt — dangerously increasing water-levels planetwide.
Temperature is up a little
Citation needed.
but the freezing point is up much higher, so the sea ice is forming more easily.
This would explain, why the water levels have not risen. And it would illustrate, how the "conservatively formulated claims" of the scientists become shrill calls for immediate action ("We must do something!"), when the politicians get to them — and dangerously wasteful such actions can be...
Somehow a quite conservatively formulated claim (subjunctive mode, "some models, 75% chance, 5-7 years, during some month of the summer") magically morphed into the strong claim "Al Gore said in 5 years time the Arctic will be completely ice free".
The actual scientists may be formulating their claims conservatively indeed. And the morphing does occur.
But it is not the critics, but rather the politicians and journalists — peddling the global warming panic — who are doing the morphing. "The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff," — are the actual words of Al Gore from 2007 — "It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now."
Yeah, he said "could be" — about as evasive as Geico's "could save you 15% or more"... But it increased — a lot — instead of shrinking so he was not even in ball-park. And thus, any scientific models used by to make that dire prediction are invalid and any policies based on those models ought to be abolished at once — regardless of how many solyndras have been financed already following those policies.
slashdot today!?... difference between North and South
There is a distinction between the two, of course, but it is without difference to the topic of this thread. Both ice-caps were supposed to shrink (with dire consequences for the rest of the world, of course).
One expedition set out to measure the loss of the ice, found itself stuck in it — not that it changed the leading professor's opinion about the global warming...
My OpenVPN/Raspberry Pi proxy was a miserable failure...
Dare I raise the suspicion, that the underlying Linux is to blame? pfSense, on contrast, is based on FreeBSD and is — as mentioned by numerous people here — quite usable even on old celerons...
GNOME 3 is very innovative, and is built with no patent incentives.
Grandparent didn't say, the incentives are eliminated by the ruling. Only that there are fewer now... Still enough for GNOME 3 to be developed, obviously, but, possibly, not as well as it could be.
Nature has exactly zero precedent for lighter-than air flight
Most fish regulate their buoyancy using air-bubbles inside their bodies. Water is not air, but for a precedent it would do because Archimedes' law applies to gases and liquids equally...
And even in the air — the way plants like dandelions spread their seed... Well, they aren't lighter than the surrounding air of the same volume, but they are light enough to not require any power for flight.
In the general case, however, you'll find a pipe is probably faster, because the two processes can run on different cores.
The poster I was responding to referred to "Unix tradition". The tradition started on single-CPU systems...
Even on modern multi-core computes, piping data from stdout to stdin is inefficient. Very convenient, but inefficient nonetheless. When the cost of developing (such as shell scripts written to either be one-offs or rarely executed) exceeds the costs of the inefficiency, it is justified.
But with storage — the code, that is used by millions thousands (millions!) times per day, it makes all the sense to invest in developing the subsystem.
Indeed, various OS-vendors (free and otherwise) all spend a lot of effort (and money) on improving their offerings. ZFS is just an example of something better than all (or most?) of the competition.
The Unix tradition is small, single purpose tools that do one thing well. Witness sort, grep, wc, etc.
The cost of this approach has always been performance. It is faster, for example, to use grep's -c switch than to pipe grep's output into wc -l (as is commonly done in poorly-written scripts).
When it comes to storage, the performance penalty of using separate layers, which aren't well-aware of each other, becomes big enough to justify integration...
However this is just you lying. 4mbps is not "enough" for the modern Internet.
You are quite right to put "enough" in quotes. What I don't understand is, how you can seriously accuse anyone of lying (without quotes) on a matter as subjective as this.
The minimum needs to keep rising.
Sure. And it will — when multiple providers begin competing with each other for each home. Until then, attempting to force incumbent monopolies to improve service will remain a losing proposition — they talk directly to the powers that be and, being a monopoly, aren't afraid to lose many customers.
Meanwhile, the popular anger is directed against the Koch brothers — the favorite target of fans of government's regulations.
They're now facing charges and lawsuits related to "impersonating police", and the ADA who was involved is likewise facing some severe penalties.
Exactly. Now, where is the movement to stop the property seizures? Is anyone even collecting signatures?
Much like the For Profit Prison model
Let's not get distracted, huh?
And how does a For Profit Police/Prison company make more money? By finding more criminals, and increasing criminality.
You are perfectly right that it is in the interests of such companies to find more criminals. However, the "increasing criminality" allegation needs citations... Got any? The article sure does not... It enumerates some questionable practices, but nowhere is there are an allegation of an innocent person getting locked-up "for profit".
Against corporations, how else do you deal with a bad actor?
By switching to a competitor, that's how... You don't like Coke, you switch to Pepsi, that's all.
A bunch of individuals acting in concert? Congratulations: that's what Government is.
It can also be a charity, a for-profit corporation, a collective farm, a non-profit corporation, etc. And, yes, any of those are "bunch of individuals acting in concert" — and, yes, they can do almost all, that the government is doing... And whereas government is necessarily a monopoly, all of those things compete with each other for our monies and attentions. Switching from Consumer Digest to Consumer Reports is just as easily as switching from Coke to Pepsi.
Private business performing the duties of cops using a privately run intelligence network with no oversight or rules but lots of personally identifiable information to track people whom the state isn't even legally interested in, in order to sieze their assets and then keep a piece of those assets and form a major portion of the business's profit stream?
Seriously? You find the fact, that it is a private business to be the most offensive? A private business can neither arrest nor prosecute — much less convict anybody. They can not even seize any assets themselves. Their personally identifiable information (PII) about us is unlikely to be any less regulated, than what Google or Slasdhdot collect. If anything, they are more cautious than NSA is likely to be.
That said, it is quite hilarious, how the big government types — who usually support its ever increasing role in our lives (because "corporations" are evil) — still get turned off by the police — as if the Department of Education and the FBI are not from the same government...
No, the only scandalously wrong thing described in the article is the ease, with law enforcement's can seize our assets... And the most offensive part is that the authors aren't even offended by this particular aspect.
Desert Snow encouraged state and local patrol officers to post seizure data along with photos of themselves with stacks of currency and drugs
Law enforcement doing their job — and bragging about it — is fine. All professions do that, it is normal.
I don't even mind them seizing the (illegal) drugs, but possession of cash is not against the law. Unfortunately, a loophole in the American legal thinking (as well as the British, which we inherited) does not provide much protection to a person's property. Nowhere near as much as to the person himself.
The Executive can seize cash, vehicles, and even real estate without Judiciary oversight or approval — and that ought to stop. Their justification — that what they are seizing things was used for "criminal activity" — comes into play, before anyone is convicted in any criminality.
That must stop. A judge may impose limitations on using of the suspect property (and fund-transfer) — the same way movement limitations are imposed on a person, while investigation is ongoing or a trial is pending. But no seizures ought to be permitted until a "Guilty" verdict is pronounced and the sentencing enumerates, what's to be seized as a punishment.
What's settled is that the climate is changing at the hands of man
Yeah, sure. And every time I jump, the Earth moves (a little bit) in the opposite direction. Right... No, what is far from settled, is whether the humanity's impact is anything to speak of — or whether a single volcano's eruption produces more "greenhouse effect gases", than the Earth's entire bovine population and thus there is little justification in limiting beef-consumption on that account.
In other words, what's very far from being "settled" is whether humanity's impact matches that of other factors. Counting CO2 — and making predictions based on that — has already been demonstrated to be stupid. By those predictions, for example, Arctic ice should've disappeared this summer — instead, it has grown.
Kudos for tossing in the pinch of anti-government paranoia, it has to be that and not the desire for massively profitable fossil fuel corporations to defend said profits.
The profits of fossil fuel corporations are not endangered by the "green" moves at all — the demand for oil and gas is unaffected. Besides, for each such corporation, there is a bunch of solyndras peddling their wares to the "green" crowd — you aren't going to convince many, that it is the corporate world, that opposes "green initiatives".
But for the government folks — those, who are sincerely convinced, they know better than their subjects — this is a perfect way to expand their control. And if the already government-heavy countries (like Cuba) are helping persuade the free world's scientists, then all the better. Let's look the other way...
A little scary when press cozies up to a law-enforcement branch of government, isn't it?
Unbeknown to most members of the public, among the first Executive Orders signed by President Obama upon taking office was the one, declaring Dissent is no longer patriotic.
So, whereas it was glamorous and noble to dissent against RethugliKKKan election-thieves of the past, you better get all your stories pre-approved by the loving and caring government officials as long as a Nobel Peace laureate is in office.
And yet, we are constantly bombarded with assertions that, though there are still perfectly valid debates in almost any other branch of science (dieting, economics, pedagogy, biology, and even computers — you name it — it is all in flux), the science of climate is "settled" and anybody doubting the line pushed by the governments must also believe, the Earth is flat.
And, for some reason, all measures proposed (and mandated) to solve the problems require the industrialized West to slow down, to not produce as much stuff, and to not enjoy themselves as much. And, for another mystery, all of the propositions lead to increased government control of both the industries and the individual lives.
Is it just, as Thomas Jefferson put it, "the natural process" of liberty yielding and government gaining ground? Or is there some foreign "help" leaning on Western academics to "settle" the branches of science, that would slow the West down and otherwise help the competing cultures prove, they aren't as inefficient as the history suggests?
When I pick up the phone, I want to be able to call anybody else who has a phone.
Sure. And you can. The price might differ depending on the destination, though...
Fortunately, we have some choice of phone companies now — so if one of them is not to your liking, you can switch. Until a similar choice appears in the ISP-market, attempting to legislate the behavior of existing monopolies will remain in vain.
Yep... And — for a car analogy — if I'm driving, I want to be able to drive on any road with any speed by car can go, and park wherever I see fit. No matter, who built the road or attends to the parking lot.
legitimate ISP does, as opposed to a censored ISP like sometimes exists in the USA and often exists overseas.
Legislating service is a losing proposition. The service provider will get around the legislation (have we not seen it just recently, when telcos were forced to allow other DSL-providers access to their copper-wires?), but the costs for you and the barrier to entry for a would-be competitor will both be higher.
The government's role is to help competition appear — by reducing the red-tape around laying down wires and fiber — not by trying to force the incumbent monopoly to play nice(r).
His critics are perfectly ignorant of the anti-competitive practices in Microsoft's past. They would've been just as loud against Warren Buffet or, dare I mention their names, the Koch brothers.
Why don't we let foxes into hen-houses?
You are implying, Bill Gates is trying to rewrite history of the world somehow. How would he rewrite it, and what evidence to have of his plans to do it? According to what we are reading here, it is only the method of teaching history — not the content — that he wants changed...
Bill Gates' wealth is the only reason that he has power.
That's a pretty good reason in my opinion. It is certainly a better reason, than that of the various nobility of the past — who have always been deemed "better". Bill Gates' made money by doing something other people wanted to buy — rather than by conquest. Yet, somehow, I suspect, if it were, say, the Queen of England — or, better yet, one of the adorable princ(ess)es) — who offered to subsidize the history class, there would've been fewer objections than Bill Gates is eliciting.
Slashdot Mirror
Bzzz! False. Quoting the above-mentioned professor of "Climate Change" from Australia (emphasis mine): "Sea ice is disappearing due to climate change, but here ice is building up".
You can keep looking for an excuse to ignore me — or just close your ears and sing "La-la-la". Truth remains — global warming was "oversold" to the general population by the usual alliance of the dishonest seeking to profit from the implementation of measures proposed to fight it and the stupid, who agreed with them.
The various dire predictions are failing to materialize — and even when they were made, none of his allies have questioned, why Al Gore himself purchased a wonderful piece of real estate on the coast rather than in the mountains somewhere.
To continue to push forward policies based on the same predictions — and the (pseudo-)scientific models that lead to them in the first place, is irresponsible if not outright criminal...
All people already in government would gain increased governmental control over the citizenry's lives — the vast majority of them believe, they "know better" than their subjects — bless our little hearts — how to live. Which is why you haven't yet seen a "green" measure proposed, that reduced that control, have you?
In addition, the "green" measures cause the Capitalism to slow down — a cause dear to the Illiberals and the foreign handlers of some of them. Seriously, scratch a "green" activist, and you'll find a Che Guevara T-shirt underneath...
Could you be more specific? What do I get to gain? Do you suppose, I — or the KKKoch brothers — have a wonderful new planet for ourselves (or our children) to emigrate to, when Earth becomes too polluted? Some kind of Elysium being built for the 1%?
It makes no difference to the topic of dire predictions not materializing... Because it means, that other predictions made by the same people using the same methods aren't likely to materialize either — and thus any public policies based on such predictions should be scrapped.
Distinction without difference. Both ice caps were supposed to melt — dangerously increasing water-levels planetwide.
Citation needed.
This would explain, why the water levels have not risen. And it would illustrate, how the "conservatively formulated claims" of the scientists become shrill calls for immediate action ("We must do something!"), when the politicians get to them — and dangerously wasteful such actions can be...
The actual scientists may be formulating their claims conservatively indeed. And the morphing does occur.
But it is not the critics, but rather the politicians and journalists — peddling the global warming panic — who are doing the morphing. "The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff," — are the actual words of Al Gore from 2007 — "It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now."
Yeah, he said "could be" — about as evasive as Geico's "could save you 15% or more"... But it increased — a lot — instead of shrinking so he was not even in ball-park. And thus, any scientific models used by to make that dire prediction are invalid and any policies based on those models ought to be abolished at once — regardless of how many solyndras have been financed already following those policies.
There is a distinction between the two, of course, but it is without difference to the topic of this thread. Both ice-caps were supposed to shrink (with dire consequences for the rest of the world, of course).
One expedition set out to measure the loss of the ice, found itself stuck in it — not that it changed the leading professor's opinion about the global warming...
So underpowered, the responsiveness of the console was affected by light web-browsing? Well, maybe...
Dare I raise the suspicion, that the underlying Linux is to blame? pfSense, on contrast, is based on FreeBSD and is — as mentioned by numerous people here — quite usable even on old celerons...
Grandparent didn't say, the incentives are eliminated by the ruling. Only that there are fewer now... Still enough for GNOME 3 to be developed, obviously, but, possibly, not as well as it could be.
Most fish regulate their buoyancy using air-bubbles inside their bodies. Water is not air, but for a precedent it would do because Archimedes' law applies to gases and liquids equally...
And even in the air — the way plants like dandelions spread their seed... Well, they aren't lighter than the surrounding air of the same volume, but they are light enough to not require any power for flight.
The poster I was responding to referred to "Unix tradition". The tradition started on single-CPU systems...
Even on modern multi-core computes, piping data from stdout to stdin is inefficient. Very convenient, but inefficient nonetheless. When the cost of developing (such as shell scripts written to either be one-offs or rarely executed) exceeds the costs of the inefficiency, it is justified.
But with storage — the code, that is used by millions thousands (millions!) times per day, it makes all the sense to invest in developing the subsystem.
Indeed, various OS-vendors (free and otherwise) all spend a lot of effort (and money) on improving their offerings. ZFS is just an example of something better than all (or most?) of the competition.
The cost of this approach has always been performance. It is faster, for example, to use grep's -c switch than to pipe grep's output into wc -l (as is commonly done in poorly-written scripts).
When it comes to storage, the performance penalty of using separate layers, which aren't well-aware of each other, becomes big enough to justify integration...
A single person raises the privacy concern and gets moderated "Troll"... Wow... Slashdot must really love Google.
You are quite right to put "enough" in quotes. What I don't understand is, how you can seriously accuse anyone of lying (without quotes) on a matter as subjective as this.
Sure. And it will — when multiple providers begin competing with each other for each home. Until then, attempting to force incumbent monopolies to improve service will remain a losing proposition — they talk directly to the powers that be and, being a monopoly, aren't afraid to lose many customers.
Meanwhile, the popular anger is directed against the Koch brothers — the favorite target of fans of government's regulations.
Exactly. Now, where is the movement to stop the property seizures? Is anyone even collecting signatures?
Let's not get distracted, huh?
You are perfectly right that it is in the interests of such companies to find more criminals. However, the "increasing criminality" allegation needs citations... Got any? The article sure does not... It enumerates some questionable practices, but nowhere is there are an allegation of an innocent person getting locked-up "for profit".
By switching to a competitor, that's how... You don't like Coke, you switch to Pepsi, that's all.
It can also be a charity, a for-profit corporation, a collective farm, a non-profit corporation, etc. And, yes, any of those are "bunch of individuals acting in concert" — and, yes, they can do almost all, that the government is doing... And whereas government is necessarily a monopoly, all of those things compete with each other for our monies and attentions. Switching from Consumer Digest to Consumer Reports is just as easily as switching from Coke to Pepsi.
Seriously? You find the fact, that it is a private business to be the most offensive? A private business can neither arrest nor prosecute — much less convict anybody. They can not even seize any assets themselves. Their personally identifiable information (PII) about us is unlikely to be any less regulated, than what Google or Slasdhdot collect. If anything, they are more cautious than NSA is likely to be.
That said, it is quite hilarious, how the big government types — who usually support its ever increasing role in our lives (because "corporations" are evil) — still get turned off by the police — as if the Department of Education and the FBI are not from the same government...
No, the only scandalously wrong thing described in the article is the ease, with law enforcement's can seize our assets... And the most offensive part is that the authors aren't even offended by this particular aspect.
Law enforcement doing their job — and bragging about it — is fine. All professions do that, it is normal.
I don't even mind them seizing the (illegal) drugs, but possession of cash is not against the law. Unfortunately, a loophole in the American legal thinking (as well as the British, which we inherited) does not provide much protection to a person's property . Nowhere near as much as to the person himself.
The Executive can seize cash, vehicles, and even real estate without Judiciary oversight or approval — and that ought to stop. Their justification — that what they are seizing things was used for "criminal activity" — comes into play, before anyone is convicted in any criminality.
That must stop. A judge may impose limitations on using of the suspect property (and fund-transfer) — the same way movement limitations are imposed on a person, while investigation is ongoing or a trial is pending. But no seizures ought to be permitted until a "Guilty" verdict is pronounced and the sentencing enumerates, what's to be seized as a punishment.
Yeah, sure. And every time I jump, the Earth moves (a little bit) in the opposite direction. Right... No, what is far from settled, is whether the humanity's impact is anything to speak of — or whether a single volcano's eruption produces more "greenhouse effect gases", than the Earth's entire bovine population and thus there is little justification in limiting beef-consumption on that account.
In other words, what's very far from being "settled" is whether humanity's impact matches that of other factors. Counting CO2 — and making predictions based on that — has already been demonstrated to be stupid. By those predictions, for example, Arctic ice should've disappeared this summer — instead, it has grown.
The profits of fossil fuel corporations are not endangered by the "green" moves at all — the demand for oil and gas is unaffected. Besides, for each such corporation, there is a bunch of solyndras peddling their wares to the "green" crowd — you aren't going to convince many, that it is the corporate world, that opposes "green initiatives".
But for the government folks — those, who are sincerely convinced, they know better than their subjects — this is a perfect way to expand their control. And if the already government-heavy countries (like Cuba) are helping persuade the free world's scientists, then all the better. Let's look the other way...
Unbeknown to most members of the public, among the first Executive Orders signed by President Obama upon taking office was the one, declaring Dissent is no longer patriotic .
So, whereas it was glamorous and noble to dissent against RethugliKKKan election-thieves of the past, you better get all your stories pre-approved by the loving and caring government officials as long as a Nobel Peace laureate is in office.
Exactly, darn it...
And yet, we are constantly bombarded with assertions that, though there are still perfectly valid debates in almost any other branch of science (dieting, economics, pedagogy, biology, and even computers — you name it — it is all in flux), the science of climate is "settled" and anybody doubting the line pushed by the governments must also believe, the Earth is flat.
And, for some reason, all measures proposed (and mandated) to solve the problems require the industrialized West to slow down, to not produce as much stuff, and to not enjoy themselves as much. And, for another mystery, all of the propositions lead to increased government control of both the industries and the individual lives.
Is it just, as Thomas Jefferson put it, "the natural process" of liberty yielding and government gaining ground? Or is there some foreign "help" leaning on Western academics to "settle" the branches of science, that would slow the West down and otherwise help the competing cultures prove, they aren't as inefficient as the history suggests?
Sure. And you can. The price might differ depending on the destination, though...
Fortunately, we have some choice of phone companies now — so if one of them is not to your liking, you can switch. Until a similar choice appears in the ISP-market, attempting to legislate the behavior of existing monopolies will remain in vain.
Yep... And — for a car analogy — if I'm driving, I want to be able to drive on any road with any speed by car can go, and park wherever I see fit. No matter, who built the road or attends to the parking lot.
Legislating service is a losing proposition. The service provider will get around the legislation (have we not seen it just recently, when telcos were forced to allow other DSL-providers access to their copper-wires?), but the costs for you and the barrier to entry for a would-be competitor will both be higher.
The government's role is to help competition appear — by reducing the red-tape around laying down wires and fiber — not by trying to force the incumbent monopoly to play nice(r).
Everybody "chooses" it — few people succeed.
His critics are perfectly ignorant of the anti-competitive practices in Microsoft's past. They would've been just as loud against Warren Buffet or, dare I mention their names, the Koch brothers.
You are implying, Bill Gates is trying to rewrite history of the world somehow. How would he rewrite it, and what evidence to have of his plans to do it? According to what we are reading here, it is only the method of teaching history — not the content — that he wants changed...
That's a pretty good reason in my opinion. It is certainly a better reason, than that of the various nobility of the past — who have always been deemed "better". Bill Gates' made money by doing something other people wanted to buy — rather than by conquest. Yet, somehow, I suspect, if it were, say, the Queen of England — or, better yet, one of the adorable princ(ess)es) — who offered to subsidize the history class, there would've been fewer objections than Bill Gates is eliciting.