It's very hard to "prove" anything. So, all too often, we're stuck reasoning with logical fallacies (some of which you're bound to point out in what I'm saying. But I still submit that it's true).
A second logical fallacy is say, I'm right because you committed a logical fallacy. And I would go a step beyond that (maybe a slippery slope) and say, we can't conclude anything until one way or the other is "proven." Unfortunately, those of us living in the real world are stuck using incomplete facts without the time to carry every set of reasoning to completion. Even then, are you absolutely sure of your conclusion? So sure, logical fallacies are a way of pointing out a weakness in what someone says, but what the person is saying could still be quite valuable.
But wasn't the trustworthy computing initiative meant to find these holes and fix them? Why are they calling this a failure? Oh, I just remembered. It's from the Register.
I really like the thinking you are doing, and I have tremendous respect for you and what you are saying. It's possible you are 100% right. But there are some things that really worry me. Let me play the devil's advocate for a minute. This may sound a little personal, but I hope you will not take it as anything but a cautious response mixed with some thinking out loud.
No, the RIAA is complaining about file swapping and album swapping on the internet. This is simply not legal.
The facts don't seem to support this distinction. Measures such as the one this article is about will do a lot more to stop Home Recording Act style swapping than internet swapping. Once somebody gets the binary and starts sharing it, the binary is oblivious to what kind of protection is on the CDs people are using at home.
> True. The economy did suck, it affected everyone. 10% is still a huge decrease though, so they need to justify it SOMEHOW.
And what better way to justify it than, once again, blame your customers. The RIAA is guilty of misrepresenting correlation for causation. People are being cautious. Consumer spending is way down. Music prices are higher. What do they expect to happen?
Good point, but there are even more choices for people now in post-napster world.
More choices, but not very ones. They don't perform anywhere near the speed and ease of Napster.
Yeah, pop music is wretched now. But there are a lot of smaller bands that are getting hurt by the MP3 internet thing.
To me, it seems like the Britney Spears and MTV-created performers benefit most from a restrictive system. People don't hear much of the smaller bands, and that is even more true when you: 1) Don't hear them on the local radio stations (which play about 10 songs in a continuous loop) and 2) Can't get recordings of them somewhere without shelling out $16 for a CD. If I discover that I like a band, I will buy the CD. In that sequence.
File-sharing is the RIAA's scapegoat for bad record sales. Can you blame them though?
Their jobs are on the line, and they are constantly fighting congress for more favors. When there are not solid facts to back them up, they have to be to be creative.
Who honestly does not support copyright protection? We are all fans of the GPL or BSD liscence here.
A) Some people honestly don't support copyright protection (granted, GPL and BSD backers are not among these). B) Many people who do support copyright protection don't support the abuse of copyright powers. C) As people like the makers of Lindows are finding, the GPL isn't always a rose garden. If you write on top of GPLed code, you have to accept that your code will be shared with anyone who uses your product. But yes, copy protection can often be for the public good. D) Even if we grant the RIAA every bit of copyright protection they have and more, they could well acting as a trust to abuse the rights of consumers by limiting their access to music. And, by the way, this definitely hurts small artists.
As long as I can listen to music on my iPod, I'm happy.
So if the said protection prevents this (which from what I have read, it sure seems to), wouldn't you oppose it (and Best Buy's sopport thereof)?
I support bands, I buy music. I am confident that I will still be able to listen to the music I legally own on a device of my choosing, and I believe stores and artists recognize this fact.
I really respect your sentiments, but I don't share your optimism about being able to choose the device. If my facts are right, your iPod only connects to a Mac. Copy protected CDs will not work on a computer. Some have special software to allow you to hear the music on a PC, but not a mac, and certainly not to copy it.
Thanks for being patient and reading this. Again, I mean you all respect, and I appreciate your unselfish view of the whole issue--something we consumers and the industry seem to need more of.
But like other posters are saying, courts and laws are also there to protect you.
But let's assume the ISP is 100% trustworthy. There are still reasons to be worried: 1) They have few non-technical means for taking action against hacking attacks (hobbyist, government, or otherwise). 2) A small, independent island nation may not be immune to political and/or military takeover. This means a) they could be attacked, or b) big nations could get favors from them in exchange for continued protection.
Secure, I don't think so. A safe haven for publishing things like copyrighted works--for now, probably.
let's keep in mind that this API will actually be decreasing Google pageviews and hits, which will in turn make their AdWords, AdWordsSelect, and textads less effective.
Maybe. However, you can already use screen-scraping to query Google today. The difference is that Google will better know the difference between a program and an actual user. So each ad-word view may be more effective. Of course, now that Google offers pay-per-click (in place of pay-per-impression), that might not be an issue anyway.
Will the number of actual ad impressions go down? Could be. But maybe by being a better product, Google will gain popularity and increase impression counts.
As for supporting Google: Definitely; they make an unbeatable product.
Unfortunately, the chips inside the foam may not be so heat resistant. Can anyone say "zero ventilation in a non-heat-conducting medium"? Can anyone say "toast"?
If you're running Windows, Monkey's Audio (get the Beta, not the previous release) and EAC (Exact Audio Copy) make a great combination for lossless compression. I've tried many other programs and finally have settled on these two. Once you've installed both, you'll never run Monkey's Audio. The codec will be accessible from EAC. Oh yeah, and it comes with a WinAmp decoder plugin too.
Yep. The only difference between this and other key-based encryption schemes is that these people have made it obvious they don't know what they're doing.
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It's very hard to "prove" anything. So, all too often, we're stuck reasoning with logical fallacies (some of which you're bound to point out in what I'm saying. But I still submit that it's true).
A second logical fallacy is say, I'm right because you committed a logical fallacy. And I would go a step beyond that (maybe a slippery slope) and say, we can't conclude anything until one way or the other is "proven." Unfortunately, those of us living in the real world are stuck using incomplete facts without the time to carry every set of reasoning to completion. Even then, are you absolutely sure of your conclusion? So sure, logical fallacies are a way of pointing out a weakness in what someone says, but what the person is saying could still be quite valuable.
It's the Register who is orignially to blame. Their assertions often border on ludicrous.
But I do wonder why Slashdot doesn't do a little rational thinking before they post stories from the Register.
Yes, they're telling some of the truth.
But wasn't the trustworthy computing initiative meant to find these holes and fix them? Why are they calling this a failure? Oh, I just remembered. It's from the Register.
There's nothing like a clueless moderator to brighten you're day.
And yes, this one is off-topic.
Finally, a post from someone who actually knows.
.exe's by the time they run.
I will add one more thing.
At the time an app is installed, it is possible to "pre-jit" applications, so they could be
If IIS 6 is not vulnerable, wouldn't that mean Microsoft's initiative is working?
BTW:
* In XP, tab completion is on by default.
* There's also a built-in utility called findstr, which offers many options that find does not.
George Washington...
I think I might have heard the name. Was he Martha Washington's husband?
I really like the thinking you are doing, and I have tremendous respect for you and what you are saying. It's possible you are 100% right. But there are some things that really worry me. Let me play the devil's advocate for a minute. This may sound a little personal, but I hope you will not take it as anything but a cautious response mixed with some thinking out loud.
No, the RIAA is complaining about file swapping and album swapping on the internet. This is simply not legal.
The facts don't seem to support this distinction. Measures such as the one this article is about will do a lot more to stop Home Recording Act style swapping than internet swapping. Once somebody gets the binary and starts sharing it, the binary is oblivious to what kind of protection is on the CDs people are using at home.
> True. The economy did suck, it affected everyone. 10% is still a huge decrease though, so they need to justify it SOMEHOW.
And what better way to justify it than, once again, blame your customers. The RIAA is guilty of misrepresenting correlation for causation. People are being cautious. Consumer spending is way down. Music prices are higher. What do they expect to happen?
Good point, but there are even more choices for people now in post-napster world.
More choices, but not very ones. They don't perform anywhere near the speed and ease of Napster.
Yeah, pop music is wretched now. But there are a lot of smaller bands that are getting hurt by the MP3 internet thing.
To me, it seems like the Britney Spears and MTV-created performers benefit most from a restrictive system. People don't hear much of the smaller bands, and that is even more true when you:
1) Don't hear them on the local radio stations (which play about 10 songs in a continuous loop) and
2) Can't get recordings of them somewhere without shelling out $16 for a CD.
If I discover that I like a band, I will buy the CD. In that sequence.
File-sharing is the RIAA's scapegoat for bad record sales. Can you blame them though?
Their jobs are on the line, and they are constantly fighting congress for more favors. When there are not solid facts to back them up, they have to be to be creative.
Who honestly does not support copyright protection? We are all fans of the GPL or BSD liscence here.
A) Some people honestly don't support copyright protection (granted, GPL and BSD backers are not among these).
B) Many people who do support copyright protection don't support the abuse of copyright powers.
C) As people like the makers of Lindows are finding, the GPL isn't always a rose garden. If you write on top of GPLed code, you have to accept that your code will be shared with anyone who uses your product. But yes, copy protection can often be for the public good.
D) Even if we grant the RIAA every bit of copyright protection they have and more, they could well acting as a trust to abuse the rights of consumers by limiting their access to music. And, by the way, this definitely hurts small artists.
As long as I can listen to music on my iPod, I'm happy.
So if the said protection prevents this (which from what I have read, it sure seems to), wouldn't you oppose it (and Best Buy's sopport thereof)?
I support bands, I buy music. I am confident that I will still be able to listen to the music I legally own on a device of my choosing, and I believe stores and artists recognize this fact.
I really respect your sentiments, but I don't share your optimism about being able to choose the device. If my facts are right, your iPod only connects to a Mac. Copy protected CDs will not work on a computer. Some have special software to allow you to hear the music on a PC, but not a mac, and certainly not to copy it.
Thanks for being patient and reading this. Again, I mean you all respect, and I appreciate your unselfish view of the whole issue--something we consumers and the industry seem to need more of.
You're right.
;)
Other countries did abolish female suffrage long before we did.
Also, many of them brought it back before we did
(ironic side note: Muslim nations were pioneers of such rights for women much earlier than Christian nations were)
Based on how these things keep getting disabled, it seems obvious that one of these is true:
1) NYTimes is reading Slashdot to find user names to disable.
2) NYTimes looks for user names that get used beyond certain limits and disables them.
I wonder if they're doing the things the X10 ads imply they might be doing.
Spying on the neighbors? Probably.
And you thought you could spy without anyone watching...
Very interesting. I had never heard of it.
But like other posters are saying, courts and laws are also there to protect you.
But let's assume the ISP is 100% trustworthy. There are still reasons to be worried:
1) They have few non-technical means for taking action against hacking attacks (hobbyist, government, or otherwise).
2) A small, independent island nation may not be immune to political and/or military takeover. This means a) they could be attacked, or b) big nations could get favors from them in exchange for continued protection.
Secure, I don't think so. A safe haven for publishing things like copyrighted works--for now, probably.
the bright side is that it doesn't send anything to internet
Doesn't sound so bad to me.
Sounds like Time Warner wants to stop people from running Gnutella all the time. I wonder why they'd want that...
Heh, my car can transfer a few trillion in a lot less than that.
And thanks for the fright, too! My heart is pounding like crazy now. Sheesh!
let's keep in mind that this API will actually be decreasing Google pageviews and hits, which will in turn make their AdWords, AdWordsSelect, and textads less effective.
Maybe. However, you can already use screen-scraping to query Google today. The difference is that Google will better know the difference between a program and an actual user. So each ad-word view may be more effective. Of course, now that Google offers pay-per-click (in place of pay-per-impression), that might not be an issue anyway.
Will the number of actual ad impressions go down? Could be. But maybe by being a better product, Google will gain popularity and increase impression counts.
As for supporting Google: Definitely; they make an unbeatable product.
I suspect that even non-conducting water would still be a hostile environment for computer parts.
I read somewhere that it can be done with mineral oil. That would be interesting...
Ahhh. I love eliciting the venom of moderators. Keep 'em coming, kids.
Unfortunately, the chips inside the foam may not be so heat resistant. Can anyone say "zero ventilation in a non-heat-conducting medium"? Can anyone say "toast"?
If you're running Windows, Monkey's Audio (get the Beta, not the previous release) and
EAC (Exact Audio Copy) make a great combination for lossless compression. I've tried many other programs and finally have settled on these two. Once you've installed both, you'll never run Monkey's Audio. The codec will be accessible from EAC. Oh yeah, and it comes with a WinAmp decoder plugin too.
Yep. The only difference between this and other key-based encryption schemes is that these people have made it obvious they don't know what they're doing.
And they're trying to stop radio again--Internet radio. This time it might actually work.
Let's hope campaign finance reform works. Otherwise, the guys making the rules are bought, and it's not by us.
Most of the losses will be the burden on the retailer
However, the retailers are smart and will do one of two things:
1) Stop giving refunds.
2) Stop accepting broken CDs from the manufacturer.