I disagree they are easier to pull off than people think. DNS buffer overflows have been rather common in the past and for the longest time IE allowed hostile pages to overwrite c:\windows\hosts (Not sure if they have even fixed this issue)
Don't be so sure about that. For the longest time windows allowed javascript to edit c:\windows\hosts (has the same affect)
Also the entire *point* of SSL certs is to make this sort of thing impossible. It should have popped up a warning telling the user that it wasn't the real certificate.
EDU domains tend to scare spammers.. not only is there not much money to be got. They are likely to end up with some anti spam vigalante with a lot of free time that can be spent causing them pain.
Not to mention the operating costs of having to constantly find new isps and the time needed to constantly try to keep the current ones from dumping you.
Or the sheer of having to have an unlisted number with privacy options and even then having to constantly change your number.
Ever call Alan Ralsky? You have to leave a 5 second message(only your name) just to get him to answer his phone.
How exactly do you get new buisness when your affraid of who the next caller might be?
Expensive? VERY. It only looks cheap when you don't look at the hidden costs.
Unfortunatly not everyone "gets it" But the anti spam lobby provides a good lart.
My former employer actualy teamed up with ralsky I informed him of the dangers before I quit but he didn't listen. He got his primary account disabled but didn't learn. Hes got 3 other ISPs now and a spews listing. I'm glad I left.
My current one and I had an arguement in wich he overruled me and demanded I send 30 000 emails. I sent half that and the complaints from our isp were enough to change his mind and hes never asked me again.
So in my experiance the anti spamers do have a noticeable affect. And it's not the spam users who are taking advantage it's the spammers themselves you have to admit the numbers look good on paper if you don't know about the resulting backlash. It has all the right numbers that look good to managers and marketing departments and no way to talk them out of it until they get burned.
Look at the diffrence though.. Xforce didn't wait before releasing a patch that failed to fix the problem along with an advisory that didn't grasp the full scope of the bug they found.
These guys waited a YEAR and HP still hadn't fixed the problem.
That is the problem.. there *are* no 64 bit page sizes.. if there were Linux would support it a *lot* more efficiantly. What you really have is a 32 addressing range and the abillity to swap pages into the 32 bit addressing range as needed.
Because they aren't doing it right. I used to like their idea too until I started to see the design.
They are planning for the high end only and demanding that things that are best known at runtime compilor. And they aren't even doing that consistantly. The result is a design that manages to be outrun by the Pentium IV and makes even the Athlon seem cool running.
It reminds me of how Microsoft handled Microkernel design where they managed to have the disadvantages of the micokernel combined with the disadvantages a monolithic kernel because they tossed anything speed critical(like video) into the main kernel(bypassing the Micokernel interface).
I think hes dreaming about 64 bit for the masses. As would anyone else who has had to get 32 bit x86 to handle more than 4 gig of ram or tried and figgure out how to juggle the few registers provicded as efficiantly as possible.
I made it.. whover planned this didn't think it through at all. LavaLounge doesn't open until 8:30 so we all just hung out at the terrace next dor and had a good time anyways. All 7 of us.
Damn this is so much more fun than the "lets do this the stupid way so when we show you the next function you will see how much it's needed" classes I had. I mught have bothered to continue:P Ohh well I was broke anyways.
I see someone else got the second riddle)and that is pretty close to what I was thinking of)
I doubt it.. webtvs use a software modem wich most likely doesn't even respond to AT commands. Theres also the matter of the virus shutting down the system after.
OTH this is proof that "Trusted Computing" won't fix anything.
Some of us belive because we have experianced. At this point it's not simple faith anymore.
Unfortunatly the problem comes in trying to convince someone else of my experiances since that person now has to accept what I say as true even though that person has no reason to trust what I say.
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It only takes 3 reboots if you don't use windows update to upgrade your system to the latest. If you do add another 6 or 7 reboots.
If you don't I hope you don't ever intend to either accept email or web browse.
I disagree they are easier to pull off than people think. DNS buffer overflows have been rather common in the past and for the longest time IE allowed hostile pages to overwrite c:\windows\hosts (Not sure if they have even fixed this issue)
Don't be so sure about that. For the longest time windows allowed javascript to edit c:\windows\hosts (has the same affect)
Also the entire *point* of SSL certs is to make this sort of thing impossible. It should have popped up a warning telling the user that it wasn't the real certificate.
EDU domains tend to scare spammers.. not only is there not much money to be got. They are likely to end up with some anti spam vigalante with a lot of free time that can be spent causing them pain.
That should be easy to test... just create 2 hotmail accounts and 2 fake accounts on the crush site.
I take it you have never had to deal with trident.
Trident has been known for sucky performance and bad quality hardware.
I really don't miss them.. I hope they spend a fortune on this and go bankrupt or something.
"The question is: How many mailings can you do in a day?"
I know Ralsky does at least 10 "campaigns" per day(one per site).
Not to mention the operating costs of having to constantly find new isps and the time needed to constantly try to keep the current ones from dumping you.
Or the sheer of having to have an unlisted number with privacy options and even then having to constantly change your number.
Ever call Alan Ralsky? You have to leave a 5 second message(only your name) just to get him to answer his phone.
How exactly do you get new buisness when your affraid of who the next caller might be?
Expensive? VERY. It only looks cheap when you don't look at the hidden costs.
Unfortunatly not everyone "gets it" But the anti spam lobby provides a good lart.
My former employer actualy teamed up with ralsky I informed him of the dangers before I quit but he didn't listen. He got his primary account disabled but didn't learn. Hes got 3 other ISPs now and a spews listing. I'm glad I left.
My current one and I had an arguement in wich he overruled me and demanded I send 30 000 emails. I sent half that and the complaints from our isp were enough to change his mind and hes never asked me again.
So in my experiance the anti spamers do have a noticeable affect. And it's not the spam users who are taking advantage it's the spammers themselves you have to admit the numbers look good on paper if you don't know about the resulting backlash. It has all the right numbers that look good to managers and marketing departments and no way to talk them out of it until they get burned.
Actually current coding practice has an implicit Y10K bug not Y3K.
Look at the diffrence though .. Xforce didn't wait before releasing a patch that failed to fix the problem along with an advisory that didn't grasp the full scope of the bug they found.
These guys waited a YEAR and HP still hadn't fixed the problem.
That is the problem.. there *are* no 64 bit page sizes.. if there were Linux would support it a *lot* more efficiantly. What you really have is a 32 addressing range and the abillity to swap pages into the 32 bit addressing range as needed.
What we really have is EMS all over again.
Because they aren't doing it right. I used to like their idea too until I started to see the design.
They are planning for the high end only and demanding that things that are best known at runtime compilor. And they aren't even doing that consistantly. The result is a design that manages to be outrun by the Pentium IV and makes even the Athlon seem cool running.
It reminds me of how Microsoft handled Microkernel design where they managed to have the disadvantages of the micokernel combined with the disadvantages a monolithic kernel because they tossed anything speed critical(like video) into the main kernel(bypassing the Micokernel interface).
I think hes dreaming about 64 bit for the masses.
As would anyone else who has had to get 32 bit x86 to handle more than 4 gig of ram or tried and figgure out how to juggle the few registers provicded as efficiantly as possible.
I for one am also wishing for cheap 64 bit.
That is _only_ true for module interfaces. In the past hes been very picky about changes that break userspace.
Yeah that's what I got.. a hug from Margaret the head of marketing. My day seems much improved after that.
We went to the LavaLounge.
That happened to us in Montreal Canada as well.. soeone booked the meeting at 7 at a nightclub that doesn't open till 8:30.
The waiter at the next place over gave us a table on the sidewalk next to the the nightclub's entrance so we could catch any slashdotters going in,
Seven people ended up arriving and we had a good time(at least I did).
I made it.. whover planned this didn't think it through at all. LavaLounge doesn't open until 8:30 so we all just hung out at the terrace next dor and had a good time anyways. All 7 of us.
Right, and that is why I implemented a company wide phase out of Trillian when we standardised on jabber for all internal messaging 2 weeks ago.
There is a lot to be said for having control of your own messaging server.
Or better yet Vista wich tosses in yahoo and jabber as well.
Damn this is so much more fun than the "lets do this the stupid way so when we show you the next function you will see how much it's needed" classes I had. I mught have bothered to continue :P Ohh well I was broke anyways.
I see someone else got the second riddle)and that is pretty close to what I was thinking of)
Is the answer .. nothing?
You shouldn't have to special case that since it's just another variable name.
I doubt it.. webtvs use a software modem wich most likely doesn't even respond to AT commands. Theres also the matter of the virus shutting down the system after.
OTH this is proof that "Trusted Computing" won't fix anything.
Some of us belive because we have experianced. At this point it's not simple faith anymore.
Unfortunatly the problem comes in trying to convince someone else of my experiances since that person now has to accept what I say as true even though that person has no reason to trust what I say.