The ACL security moddle they ripped from VMS is great. What I really wish is that they would actually USE it. I don't like all daemons running as administrator and good luck trying to get IIS to work as anything else.
Personally I think this was all about truth in advertising.
What was the message with the song they used for windows 95 ? Oh yea "she makes a grown man cryyy"
Now we move on to XP and they use an artist known for sleeping around. I think it's allegory someone somewhere was sending the message "anyone who wants in can have me"
For no other reason then the fact that some dumbass registered it a few years back and tried to demand payment from everyone using it. The resulting lawsuit had it transfered to Linus. That record even shows who it was.
(REGISTRANT) Croce, William R. Della, Jr. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 33 Snow Hill St. Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02113
(LAST LISTED OWNER) TORVALDS, LINUS INDIVIDUAL Assignee of FINLAND 5774 CANNES PLACE SAN JOSE CALIFORNIA 95138
EVIL
*won't open up their broadband to competition
*when forced to do the former demanded terms that would be unprofitable for the competition.
*bought their 2 largest compeditors and swallowed them into their dialup service.
*provide one massive IP block with no way to be able to ban just one user.
*provide one IM service with little to no security(ICQ).
*provide another IM service with no ability to block a user(AIM).
*denied every last security hole and tried to hide the fact that customer creditcards has been compromised.
Face it.. they are everything we dislike about MS combined with everything we hate about telcos attitude and while were at it don't forget they back the MPAA.
A world where AOL stamps out MS is a worse place to exist not a better one.
Complete and utter BS.. forks are a good thing Linus has said so himself. They let diffrent people try diffrent approaches to the same problem or include features not yet elegent enough to be included in the main line kernel.
And while I'm at it: Alan Cox regulairly submits parts of his patches to linus / marcello for inclusion in the main line kernel. A lot of it gets merged but some things Alan doesn't think are good enough and some things Linus disagrees with.
I think some parts of NT are and some parts of not.. windows 9.x/me are definatly not to prove this just watch your whole system slow to a crawl while writing to the floppy drive.
I don't think even with this the kernel will be good enough for some forms of real time process control. Real Time process control needs guarunteed sub millisecond response times and everything else including overall throughout is sacrificed for the cause.
It will however make the UI a tad more responsive and make it harder for things like web browser loading to make the mp3 player skip.
I half agree. There are plenty of older systems still out there and I don't mind supporting them as long as the drivers are self contained and don't affect anything else. Having said that.. I don't think anyone should expect the device config to be easy for obsolete hardware.
Because your referring to somehting completely diffrent. RedHat Mandrake SuSE etc all provide the same mechanism only they call it "daemons"
Same goes for kernel features you don't use.. they are simply unused.
Kernel recompile is a step further and not one often needed by the averge user anymore.
With the exception of some wierd features/devices the only reason you should need to recompile a kernel is if you either want the bleeding edge or want to upgrade to something less buggy and the later is usually pre packaged by the distro.
Some people (like me)want to squeeze that last 1% out of their load times/ram useage by recompiling and that's not a feature windows 2000 even comes close to offering.
Actually that's not really true.. I've found linux-kernel to be an easy place to ask questions in the past and get good answers. What they don't respond well to are installation(though somone will answer them usually) or worse yet things not kernel.
Software companies either closed or open source should be forced to recall all unsold software from distributers and not be permitted to release anything but a fixed version.
It's annoys me to no end to see Windows XP still on store shelves and being told by the salesman "don't worry just go to windows update"
IMO the expence and loss of momentum would be enough to make software companies take a hard look at what they are releasing.
I'm all for this.. Linux would not have had nearly as much security problems had companies like RedHat inc not consistently included software with bad security records.
Software like UW-IMAP, UW-POP3, WU-FTPD... seriously there are better options and these people need to learn not to use them.
It's also possible to get so tied up with obligactions you never have time to do what you want to or try new things. I look forward to seeing what happens to projects he now has time for.
Actually windows will do an OOM kill.. I've seen it.
As for overcommiting: it's needed; in fact Solaris and BSD both do it. The main problem is that it's hard to fix the OOM killer without getting the VM down to an art.
So what? Linus himself has said forks are a good thing.
Forks allow comparisons of 2 diffrent ways of approaching a problem(-ac or -riel) or allow for quick inclusion of features that work but aren't elegent enough to be included in tje linus tree(RedHat or SuSe).
They were only looking for a bandwagon to jump on that didn't require them to give back anything.
After seeing their posts on linux-kernel griping that they couldn't charge for drivers for hardware they don't even make I am left with the impression that Wind River is nothing more than a large corporate leach.
Several companies I've done buisness with in the past have refused anything other than plain text or html. But not for political or idiological reasons... hey did so for security reasons.
MS has blown their own leg off with this over bloated do everything format because now more and more buisnesses are blocking all potential virus entries into their systems.
RMS' rant was redundant if nothing else.
Sometimes I think the open source comunity should just shut up and let MS do it's own talking. People will learn on their own why depending on Microsoft is a problem.
Hi if you can win my game I'll give you $10 oh and I won't tell you the rules and I'll change the rules as I see fit but feel free to play anyways.
That has been in progress for awhile now what do you think kword, staroffice and abiword are all trying to do?.. and as good a goal as they all have it's rather hard to conform to something that's at least partially designed to not allow others to play on their field.
I don't know why people keep thinking it would be an easy thing to do.
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The ACL security moddle they ripped from VMS is great. What I really wish is that they would actually USE it. I don't like all daemons running as administrator and good luck trying to get IIS to work as anything else.
Personally I think this was all about truth in advertising.
What was the message with the song they used for windows 95 ? Oh yea "she makes a grown man cryyy"
Now we move on to XP and they use an artist known for sleeping around. I think it's allegory someone somewhere was sending the message "anyone who wants in can have me"
For no other reason then the fact that some dumbass registered it a few years back and tried to demand payment from everyone using it. The resulting lawsuit had it transfered to Linus. That record even shows who it was.
(REGISTRANT) Croce, William R. Della, Jr. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 33 Snow Hill St. Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02113
(LAST LISTED OWNER) TORVALDS, LINUS INDIVIDUAL Assignee of FINLAND 5774 CANNES PLACE SAN JOSE CALIFORNIA 95138
They have 24/7 support NOW provided you pay for it.
EVIL
*won't open up their broadband to competition
*when forced to do the former demanded terms that would be unprofitable for the competition.
*bought their 2 largest compeditors and swallowed them into their dialup service.
*provide one massive IP block with no way to be able to ban just one user.
*provide one IM service with little to no security(ICQ).
*provide another IM service with no ability to block a user(AIM).
*denied every last security hole and tried to hide the fact that customer creditcards has been compromised.
Face it.. they are everything we dislike about MS combined with everything we hate about telcos attitude and while were at it don't forget they back the MPAA.
A world where AOL stamps out MS is a worse place to exist not a better one.
There are times when how much you enjoy a job depends on who's bottom line your contributing to.
Complete and utter BS.. forks are a good thing Linus has said so himself. They let diffrent people try diffrent approaches to the same problem or include features not yet elegent enough to be included in the main line kernel.
And while I'm at it: Alan Cox regulairly submits parts of his patches to linus / marcello for inclusion in the main line kernel. A lot of it gets merged but some things Alan doesn't think are good enough and some things Linus disagrees with.
I think some parts of NT are and some parts of not.. windows 9.x/me are definatly not to prove this just watch your whole system slow to a crawl while writing to the floppy drive.
I don't think even with this the kernel will be good enough for some forms of real time process control. Real Time process control needs guarunteed sub millisecond response times and everything else including overall throughout is sacrificed for the cause.
It will however make the UI a tad more responsive and make it harder for things like web browser loading to make the mp3 player skip.
I half agree. There are plenty of older systems still out there and I don't mind supporting them as long as the drivers are self contained and don't affect anything else. Having said that .. I don't think anyone should expect the device config to be easy for obsolete hardware.
Ntfs has a reputation for eating filesystems.. I can see why they would turn it off.
It's worse than that.. he wanted autodetection of non PnP ISA cards.
Auto configure is one thing... auto detection of hardware that was never designed to be auto detected is quite another.
I for one would hope Aunt Tillie would have a reasonably recent system. If she uses 10 year old componants she should expect it to be hard.
Because your referring to somehting completely diffrent. RedHat Mandrake SuSE etc all provide the same mechanism only they call it "daemons"
Same goes for kernel features you don't use.. they are simply unused.
Kernel recompile is a step further and not one often needed by the averge user anymore.
With the exception of some wierd features/devices the only reason you should need to recompile a kernel is if you either want the bleeding edge or want to upgrade to something less buggy and the later is usually pre packaged by the distro.
Some people (like me)want to squeeze that last 1% out of their load times/ram useage by recompiling and that's not a feature windows 2000 even comes close to offering.
Actually that's not really true.. I've found linux-kernel to be an easy place to ask questions in the past and get good answers. What they don't respond well to are installation(though somone will answer them usually) or worse yet things not kernel.
Software companies either closed or open source should be forced to recall all unsold software from distributers and not be permitted to release anything but a fixed version.
It's annoys me to no end to see Windows XP still on store shelves and being told by the salesman "don't worry just go to windows update"
IMO the expence and loss of momentum would be enough to make software companies take a hard look at what they are releasing.
I'm all for this.. Linux would not have had nearly as much security problems had companies like RedHat inc not consistently included software with bad security records.
Software like UW-IMAP, UW-POP3, WU-FTPD... seriously there are better options and these people need to learn not to use them.
Seems to have been a common theme .. they laughed at the lawsuits. Treated Metallica like crap when they complained and now see where this got them.
The sad thing is that they are setting precidents and that in turn screws everyone else.
It's also possible to get so tied up with obligactions you never have time to do what you want to or try new things. I look forward to seeing what happens to projects he now has time for.
Actually windows will do an OOM kill.. I've seen it.
As for overcommiting: it's needed; in fact Solaris and BSD both do it. The main problem is that it's hard to fix the OOM killer without getting the VM down to an art.
Linus himself said the patchbot is a god idea so long as it checks to make sure the patch still compiles cleanly before resending.
There was also talk of a backoff mechanism to keep it from becomming a flood.
IMO this would be a very cool source control system if it gets implemented correctly.
So what? Linus himself has said forks are a good thing.
Forks allow comparisons of 2 diffrent ways of approaching a problem(-ac or -riel) or allow for quick inclusion of features that work but aren't elegent enough to be included in tje linus tree(RedHat or SuSe).
You do have the abillity to chose, just apply the patch with the vm you want.
The abillity to have both in the kernel sa a compile option would result in a huge unmaintainable mess.
Check any of the kernel archives for more details.
They were only looking for a bandwagon to jump on that didn't require them to give back anything.
After seeing their posts on linux-kernel griping that they couldn't charge for drivers for hardware they don't even make I am left with the impression that Wind River is nothing more than a large corporate leach.
last one left standing of course .. you think router admins are going to handle traffic for somone not willing to obey the simple rules of the road?
Several companies I've done buisness with in the past have refused anything other than plain text or html. But not for political or idiological reasons... hey did so for security reasons.
MS has blown their own leg off with this over bloated do everything format because now more and more buisnesses are blocking all potential virus entries into their systems.
RMS' rant was redundant if nothing else.
Sometimes I think the open source comunity should just shut up and let MS do it's own talking. People will learn on their own why depending on Microsoft is a problem.
Hi if you can win my game I'll give you $10 oh and I won't tell you the rules and I'll change the rules as I see fit but feel free to play anyways.
That has been in progress for awhile now what do you think kword, staroffice and abiword are all trying to do?.. and as good a goal as they all have it's rather hard to conform to something that's at least partially designed to not allow others to play on their field.
I don't know why people keep thinking it would be an easy thing to do.