In the US such things are legal (see nudist websites). As are images of murder victims (first amendment protected). Only the criminal who did the actual act is arrestable.
>>>defending one's right to yell, "Fire!" in a movie theater
You have that right. You can yell anything you want in a theater. Or even carry a gun into one. - You also have the right to be kicked-out by the theater owner and/or sued by anybody who was harmed by your behavior. ("...citizens have a right to free speech... being responsible for the abuse of this right.")
>>>Refused Classification only means Aussie retailers can't put it on their shelves
So how the hell is an australian supposed to get the game legally? (Note that in the US importing games is now illegal - I presume the same is true down under.)
+1 insightful. Never thought of that. The world we see in pictures doesn't really represent the world as it was circa 1900.
As for retouching: - This goes back to what I said in the previous topic: Corporations should not have the right to free speech, without limits. They should only have the *privilege* of advertising, given certain restrictions, such as not being able to LIE to the customer with words or retouched photos (such as erasing the models' knobby knees).
About frakking time. Corporations should have no more access to human rights than a tree or rock or building. If an entity can not vote, then it should not have rights.
Privileges like trademarks and advertising? Sure. But such privileges should be strictly regulated and limited (unlike individual speech rights which should be unlimited).
>>>The game isn't banned. It's refused classification and can't be sold in Australia.
Uh huh. Similarly - "The jews, gypsies, communists, and mentally ill weren't actually killed. They were just "refused classification" and can't be allowed in 1940s Europe." - Herr Hitler.
Bullshit. The games were banned. Don't try and use double-speak. They were censored; banned; the people oppressed.
>>>you bought an analog TV in 2008? One year before the total analog shutoff (2009)
Analog TVs with only RF, Video, or s-video inputs can show digital television just fine. Duh.
>>>HDMI first appeared in products around 2003.....- not smart but probably you got a good deal.
In 2003 Firewire was the future. It had even been chosen by the US-FCC to be the "standard" connector on cable boxes and televisions, and legally-mandated that CATV companies provide that output to customers. Look how that turned out.
The future is not always as easy-to-predict as you falsely believe.
Tried to claim they were "the world's largest bookstore" until a court decided they can't make that claim (they aren't a bookstore). Maybe it's time for Apple and Microsoft to learn that same lesson - - - app store is not copyrightable and neither is "windows". The terms can be used by anyone.
>>>Given the way that many parents seem to act towards their children here in the UK (and I suspect that the same applies in most English-speaking nations), then they are almost certainly correct. .
Even lousy parents are better Decision makers than Politicians ~1000 miles away who have never met your kids. The decision of whether or not to buy Mature games/movies/et cetera should remain with the custodian closest to the children (i.e. me, my wife, etc). Banning by politicians should never, ever, never be permitted.
That's exactly what he's doing by posting in public where his fellow citizens can read his opinion that 18 is too high.
Personally I think 15 is just fine. If you're old enough to deal with erections, periods, and other mature sexual topics, you should be able to distinguish between Reality and and imaginary violence.
>>>the only other decision that could be made at the time is to make it 15+
If I were a bureaucrat, that's exactly what I would do rather than be a Government Censor. If people complained I'd hold a press conference and tell them point blank, "Yes this game is violent, and it deserves a higher rating than 15, but your politicians didn't give me any other options. 15 is as high as they provided for the ratings boards. Obviously we need to update our laws to include an 'adults only' rating like the US and EU have done."
I would not be a willing participant in banning freedom of press, speech, expression.
>>>It's not a poor decision as much as a result of bureaucratic red tape.
Wow.
Nice spin-doctoring of censorship ("it's good to be oppressed"). Banning of movies or games is a suppression of first amendment and ninth amendment rights (or whatever Australia's constitution has to protect freedom of speech/expression/thought). Hell even the bureaucratic EU has free speech protections, such that these games can not be banned by the central government.
>>>Yeah, it sure is awful trying to hook up blu-ray players, video game consoles, and these new-fangled internet devices to my [2008] Zenith television.
Fixed that for you. It is ridiculous that engineers think anything three years old is too old to support. On the other hand: Maybe it's marketers desiring to obsolete perfectly working TVs, in order to sell more shit.
Yet. Fast forward to 2012 and we'll probably be reading about Microsoft Cloud - Home edition for a low-low rate of just $20 a month ($15 if you are a MSN customer).
And will be able to retire when I'm 45*, so I can enjoy the rest of my life having fun instead of in the "hell" I call the office. In contrast you'll still be working into your 80s (like my father) because you wasted all your money.
* * Or work part-time because I Want
to work, not because I "have" to work.
Have none of ye ever bother to READ the constitution? Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick. I see the Liberal/progressive-run government school has very effectively brainwashed everyone to believe "the constitution is just a piece of paper" rather than law.
(handclaps) Bravo. Well played.
Now let's see what the Constitution actually says dumbasses - This Constitution... shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby..... "A constitution binds the gov't by supreme laws which, when they transgress, their acts shall be nullities." - Jefferson 1780s
Ahhh in other words you don't want to see Netflix.com or Google.com being double-billed - first by their own ISP and then a second time by Comcast or Cox or the other Local ISP.
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>>>So you are good with kiddie porn?
In the US such things are legal (see nudist websites). As are images of murder victims (first amendment protected). Only the criminal who did the actual act is arrestable.
>>>defending one's right to yell, "Fire!" in a movie theater
You have that right. You can yell anything you want in a theater. Or even carry a gun into one. - You also have the right to be kicked-out by the theater owner and/or sued by anybody who was harmed by your behavior. ("...citizens have a right to free speech... being responsible for the abuse of this right.")
>>>Refused Classification only means Aussie retailers can't put it on their shelves
So how the hell is an australian supposed to get the game legally? (Note that in the US importing games is now illegal - I presume the same is true down under.)
+1 insightful. Never thought of that. The world we see in pictures doesn't really represent the world as it was circa 1900.
As for retouching:
- This goes back to what I said in the previous topic: Corporations should not have the right to free speech, without limits. They should only have the *privilege* of advertising, given certain restrictions, such as not being able to LIE to the customer with words or retouched photos (such as erasing the models' knobby knees).
>>>Answered will be checked for spelling
This looks like a great signature. "Answered will be checked for spelling and logical coherence." - geminidomino
About frakking time. Corporations should have no more access to human rights than a tree or rock or building. If an entity can not vote, then it should not have rights.
Privileges like trademarks and advertising? Sure. But such privileges should be strictly regulated and limited (unlike individual speech rights which should be unlimited).
>>>Super Sex Positions * Hot Sexy Videos
Do these look anything like this?
http://girls.c64.org/a__girls64.php
Maybe for the same reason Windows does?
It's easy to root.
>>>If you don't understand the underpinnings, you're missing the point.
Where does a person go to learn those underpinnings and become a Unix or linux Server expert?
I don't see Microsoft suing anybody because they say they are using Ubuntu with a windows GUI.
I can see Apple suing people to stop saying "app" or "app store"
>>>The game isn't banned. It's refused classification and can't be sold in Australia.
Uh huh. Similarly - "The jews, gypsies, communists, and mentally ill weren't actually killed. They were just "refused classification" and can't be allowed in 1940s Europe." - Herr Hitler.
Bullshit. The games were banned.
Don't try and use double-speak.
They were censored; banned; the people oppressed.
>>>you bought an analog TV in 2008? One year before the total analog shutoff (2009)
Analog TVs with only RF, Video, or s-video inputs can show digital television just fine.
Duh.
>>>HDMI first appeared in products around 2003.....- not smart but probably you got a good deal.
In 2003 Firewire was the future. It had even been chosen by the US-FCC to be the "standard" connector on cable boxes and televisions, and legally-mandated that CATV companies provide that output to customers. Look how that turned out.
The future is not always as easy-to-predict as you falsely believe.
Tried to claim they were "the world's largest bookstore" until a court decided they can't make that claim (they aren't a bookstore). Maybe it's time for Apple and Microsoft to learn that same lesson - - - app store is not copyrightable and neither is "windows". The terms can be used by anyone.
>>>Given the way that many parents seem to act towards their children here in the UK (and I suspect that the same applies in most English-speaking nations), then they are almost certainly correct.
.
Even lousy parents are better Decision makers than Politicians ~1000 miles away who have never met your kids. The decision of whether or not to buy Mature games/movies/et cetera should remain with the custodian closest to the children (i.e. me, my wife, etc). Banning by politicians should never, ever, never be permitted.
>>>lobby to change it
That's exactly what he's doing by posting in public where his fellow citizens can read his opinion that 18 is too high.
Personally I think 15 is just fine. If you're old enough to deal with erections, periods, and other mature sexual topics, you should be able to distinguish between Reality and and imaginary violence.
>>>the only other decision that could be made at the time is to make it 15+
If I were a bureaucrat, that's exactly what I would do rather than be a Government Censor. If people complained I'd hold a press conference and tell them point blank, "Yes this game is violent, and it deserves a higher rating than 15, but your politicians didn't give me any other options. 15 is as high as they provided for the ratings boards. Obviously we need to update our laws to include an 'adults only' rating like the US and EU have done."
I would not be a willing participant in banning freedom of press, speech, expression.
>>>It's not a poor decision as much as a result of bureaucratic red tape.
Wow.
Nice spin-doctoring of censorship ("it's good to be oppressed"). Banning of movies or games is a suppression of first amendment and ninth amendment rights (or whatever Australia's constitution has to protect freedom of speech/expression/thought). Hell even the bureaucratic EU has free speech protections, such that these games can not be banned by the central government.
>>>Yeah, it sure is awful trying to hook up blu-ray players, video game consoles, and these new-fangled internet devices to my [2008] Zenith television.
Fixed that for you.
It is ridiculous that engineers think anything three years old is too old to support. On the other hand: Maybe it's marketers desiring to obsolete perfectly working TVs, in order to sell more shit.
I don't see an RF out, Video out, or S-video connector?
>>>This is not a software for home use.
Yet. Fast forward to 2012 and we'll probably be reading about Microsoft Cloud - Home edition for a low-low rate of just $20 a month ($15 if you are a MSN customer).
>>>God you're always so cheap
And will be able to retire when I'm 45*, so I can enjoy the rest of my life having fun instead of in the "hell" I call the office. In contrast you'll still be working into your 80s (like my father) because you wasted all your money.
*
* Or work part-time because I Want
to work, not because I "have" to work.
>>>The Constitution... is NOT itself a law.
Wow.
Just wow.
Have none of ye ever bother to READ the constitution? Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick. I see the Liberal/progressive-run government school has very effectively brainwashed everyone to believe "the constitution is just a piece of paper" rather than law.
(handclaps) Bravo. Well played.
Now let's see what the Constitution actually says dumbasses - This Constitution... shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby..... "A constitution binds the gov't by supreme laws which, when they transgress, their acts shall be nullities." - Jefferson 1780s
Ahhh in other words you don't want to see Netflix.com or Google.com being double-billed - first by their own ISP and then a second time by Comcast or Cox or the other Local ISP.
>>>Boop's face gives me the major creeps
I think her face looks a lot like that babe Danica McKellar (winnie from the wonder years) - http://www.google.com/images?q=Danica McKellar
>>>http://www.nextdate.co.il/
The category "Personals and Dating" is filtered. Ahhh crud
Versus the $70 I spent to BUY Microsoft Office in 1998. Yeah I think I'll say "no" to this rental deal, just like I said no to Comcast rental
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