The "radium" variant is merely a later copy of the codec, packaged by pirate krew, radium, who seem to release mainly audio software. Last time one of my users had some of their software (it tripped the virus scanners, and thus was noticable:-), the filenames seemed to start ra- (in this case sound forge, it appeared, as ra-sf[..]).
So it's not something you should ask frauhofer about, unless you want them to get very very pissed indeed.
There's a lot of misinformation in this Ask, worst than most. Disappointed by the mistaken souls who describe anything Xing as high quality (it omits whole frequency bands for speed).
I guess that the moral here is that the wannabe linux horde are still unable to do multimeeeeeja worth a damn; I suppose it's not really the platform for it. Cheap headphones in the office, and an sb16 clone seems about as far as most folks can go, hardly deep hifi..:-)
Programmers with sound equipment are about as scary as programmers with screwdrivers:)(
Quite. Some of us do have to put up with NT, or even *shudder* Win9xx "workstations". That's why we hate them so, probably a lot more than those rare souls who have never had the misfortune to have to maintain the wretched things.
I brought linux into this company to reduce downtime, and so far, it's beating NT hands down on both price and performance. I suppose the fact that these are real-world situations rather than hugely contrived "benchmarks" helps.
I have to say that on the whole, NT is also rather boring to run.. there's very little inherent hack value in it. Everything seems to be designed around buying yet another suboptimal bit of M$ ransomware, to make it do things that it should have done right out of the box- and what's more, to make a really shoddy job of it (thereby adding insult to injury).
Ah well, we can all argue about this until we're blue in the face, but personally, I'm voting with my IT budget..
Mmm, another ethnocentric racist American college weenie. On a KKK scholarship are we?
Last time I was unlucky enough to be able to check, the vast majority of organised warez puppies were still American, BTW.
I'm sorry, but I'm really dissapointed at the low quality of the comments on this thread- such a reactionary WASP kneejerk crowd was exactly what I hoped to avoid, by reading slashdot rather than ZDNET.
I'm sorry, but this is narrow-minded, ethnocentric rubbish.
Have you considered that maybe the vast bulk of the japanese cosumers don't want a huge, heavy, bloated PC?
A lot of very clever, very tightly packed electronics sells in Japan- a lot of ingenuity is devoted to making things smaller, cuter, neater etc.
Maybe not everyone wants or needs the computer equivalent of a huge gas-guzzling Chevy. People who have powerful PDAs, GPSsen, mobiles phones etc. can often survive quite well, both at home and away from it.
It's a radically different society, so to mark it down because it doesn't conform to the American ideal is a bit facile and wrongheaded, IMHO.
Nah, maybe I wasn't all that clear- I was speculating that they weren't completely deaf to the open src imperative, so where it really matters- on the stuff which IS GPLed (like the kernel, no?) they won't stick their fingers in their ears and yell "I can't hear you".
The point being that this is all rather new, an alledgedly commecial computer company (lest we forget, they have built nothing except some wobbly piles of jargon to date) wrestiong with a substantial GPLed code base.
So yes, I realise that new software written from the ground up can be based on any legalse you chose (subject to statutory rights in the relevant country). However, I was merely interested in the first sign that they could do the open src thing without choking; something which seems too difficult a concept for the lieks fo creative labs etc..
Oddly, this is one of the points I raised on csa misc.
Despite the fact that the "tech" document was mostly PHB hyperbole, it did mention in passing that the Workbench WM was to be open src. This implies that someone has realised the ramifications of the GPL, and is ready to comply with it.
Let's hope so. If there has to be a big, acrimonious and public test case, I would rather (being biased and all) that it was at the cost of someone like Microsoft...
Anyway, I hope I'm not imagining it- go have a look, and see if you can verify my half-baked meanderings:)
Well, I am biased, I always want to see lots of nice 3d tools.. I used to *adore* Imagine on the Ami.
Give it a while- let XFree 4 with all that DRI stuff get a foothold, so that good, fast 3D becomes more common, and I suspect that you'll see that making some folks up. It's hard to model well without a good preview.
Me, I'm looking forward to it..
(Though I am still tempted to save my hard-earned cash for a copy of 3ds max... when I had a play on a friend's machine, it was wonderful).
Oh, yeah.. now I'm awake.. note I very carefully said people who *advocate* the Amiga...
There are still a lot of clever folks hacking impressive things on the Amiga; but they are usually doing so just because that's the computer they own; they're not under the impression that this N year old system is a world-beater any more.
As I noted before, people like Jeff Grimmet still know their chops.. the MooVid guy (Lazlo Torok) is a joy.. Chris Bauer's now free shapeshifter is great.. the NewsRog team have produced a superb product etc.
It's the cheerleaders and advocates who are embarassing, though.
(Oh, and I stick by what I said about assembly coders- my assembly slinging friends don't quite see the world in ordinary terms, they're always trying to hack it:-)
No kidding.. my main 4000 is silky smooth when it's working. However, it is trivially crashable (by the dregs of "modern" Amiga apps like ArtEffect), and it just doesn't have the raw power for the things I need to do these days.
Recently I had to edit a 3 hour WAV.. there was no damned way my poor 4000 could deal with that. What's more kernel compiles take an AGE:)
Still, in its day (maybe 8 years ago), the Amiga was the best solution.
Every assembly programmer I know (including a lot of old games hacks) are more than a little crazed.. in the nicest possible way..
There are a few very bright people left though- not just the people who complain that install sets are corrupt because the README doesn't have an icon...
Ah well, we'll see how all this shakes out.. but I still get a sinking feeling re: the new Amiga, between Collas and holger's preFUD, I had really expected more.. Glad I went linux some time ago (even on my Amigas).
The criticism stems from the fact that Mr Kruse makes the most popular stack on the Amiga (commercial, based on BSD code). His ethics aren't the highest in the business (though no doubt better than our friends at R*dm*nd), but they are somewhat dodgy.
He stands to gain a great deal by FUDding credulous Amigans.
There are old broken versions of 5 with loads of missing features, but they are barely useable.
The big push has been for Windows LW and to an extent (in latter days) Mac LW.
If you want LW, boot back into Windows, and make that 3d card sing for its supper (the 3d previews in the current version are NICE with a fasrt card:).
Shame they seem to raise the price by a random amount with every release. It's priced itself into the 3dsMAX market, and really isn't anywhere as good.
Please remember that most people that still advocate the Amiga aren't the brightest bulbs in the box. A lot of them are a bit bitter because they can't get any *nix working (despite there being great debian and redhat m68k ports which run on the Ami). A lot of them don't really understand what a kernal IS and what it does, and thus nothing they say should be taken without a hefty pinch of salt.
Today on comp.sys.amiga.misc, we've had regulars complaining that linux was so ludicrously bloated that it couldn't run on a p100, someone else claiming that linux was lethally unstable because it uses a monolithic kernel, and lots of little minitrolls screaming about the TCP/IP code, simply because they don't see that H.Kruse[1] is FUDding them into a nice pliable future market.
There's nothing more insecure than an Amiga advocate.
Of course, there are clever, interesting people left, like Jeff Grimmet, Jason Compton and Joe Cosby (all of whom speak in sentences, and can plug the thing in), but on the whole, it's a crazy boneyard flamefest.
Like Mouldy (or is that Skuller?), they want to believe so bad it hurts.
[1] Who produces a very closed src commercial stack, based on BSD code.. which has some interesting litte surrpises, to delete files, send private information to a remote site and crash your machine, under certain circumstances. The face that Holger claims they will be only used for "known pirate" keyfiles mollifies me not one bit. The whole mechanism smacks of less than lofty ethics.
This is also the arrogant fsckwit who put backdoors and or timebombs in his TCP/IP stack (of which I own a scad of legit copies). When challenged on the wisdom of this, he replied that he'd take "any and all means necessary" to protect his software. Of course, when I objected to this on moral and ethical grounds, I got derided as a "Liberal", a "Hippy" and a "Pirate". This was of course, the private hissing and spitting of the csa misc flamebait, but still...
I suspect that he's just blowing up the extent of the problems in order to persuade everyone to buy his NG stack (assuming the NG ever comes out). His business is writing TCP/IP stacks. Simple as that, he's FUDding, just like old Billy Gates.
That's just it; in other countries, "Liberal" is not an insult, nor an accusation.
Sadly, America has some growing up to do (yes, there *are* other countries out there). For all its energy and enthusiasm, it still has a somewhat dysfunctional worldview. Once the acne and the growing pains die down, things might get better.
Flames to/dev/null, this really isn't a troll. However, some of the more vocal right wingers in the US are going to have to undergo a paradigm shift to cope with being part of a global community.
It happened to other countries- the old imperial powers have had to have a rethink. HEll, with the 4th (happy 4th, guys!) just behind us, look at the way that Britain has had to come to terms with its offspring wanting to live their own lives, as well as gettingused to being part of the EU.
Admittedly, they aren't the best Europeans, but at least they're trying.
The whole point of community efforts like the FSF, or indeed the Linux project is co-operation. They are communities untited by a common purpose, rather than divided by tired old political cliches.
I agree with your comments, and what's more was quite interested in BeOS. However, the borderline FUD rubbishing in order to make a tenuous point was a really cheap and dishonest shot. Classic advocate behaivior..
Slashdot Mirror
Well,if XGal is your quality metric for a distro, why not just make XGal-linux that does nothing else? :)
"built in subwoofer".. This was a really low-spec rebadged performa, as I recall. What /are/ you on?
The "radium" variant is merely a later copy of the codec, packaged by pirate krew, radium, who seem to release mainly audio software. Last time one of my users had some of their software (it tripped the virus scanners, and thus was noticable :-), the filenames seemed to start ra- (in this case sound forge, it appeared, as ra-sf[..]).
:-)
:)(
So it's not something you should ask frauhofer about, unless you want them to get very very pissed indeed.
There's a lot of misinformation in this Ask, worst than most. Disappointed by the mistaken souls who describe anything Xing as high quality (it omits whole frequency bands for speed).
I guess that the moral here is that the wannabe linux horde are still unable to do multimeeeeeja worth a damn; I suppose it's not really the platform for it. Cheap headphones in the office, and an sb16 clone seems about as far as most folks can go, hardly deep hifi..
Programmers with sound equipment are about as scary as programmers with screwdrivers
Quite. Some of us do have to put up with NT, or even *shudder* Win9xx "workstations". That's why we hate them so, probably a lot more than those rare souls who have never had the misfortune to have to maintain the wretched things.
I brought linux into this company to reduce downtime, and so far, it's beating NT hands down on both price and performance. I suppose the fact that these are real-world situations rather than hugely contrived "benchmarks" helps.
I have to say that on the whole, NT is also rather boring to run.. there's very little inherent hack value in it. Everything seems to be designed around buying yet another suboptimal bit of M$ ransomware, to make it do things that it should have done right out of the box- and what's more, to make a really shoddy job of it (thereby adding insult to injury).
Ah well, we can all argue about this until we're blue in the face, but personally, I'm voting with my IT budget..
Mmmm, a trekkie NT advocate. Not that OS advocacy right here on slashdot is some sort of induatrial flamebait or anything.
Well, at the time of writing, my local mirror
:-)
(ftp.uk.kernel.org, at HENSA) had it, in its full
glory.
Plenty fast enough for us UKers cowardly enough
to want the stable series..
Remember, some mirrors are faster than others-
balance speed of update with mirror load in making
your choice. There are a LOT of mirrors.
Enjoy..
Mmm, another ethnocentric racist American college weenie. On a KKK scholarship are we?
Last time I was unlucky enough to be able to check, the vast majority of organised warez puppies were still American, BTW.
I'm sorry, but I'm really dissapointed at the low quality of the comments on this thread- such a reactionary WASP kneejerk crowd was exactly what I hoped to avoid, by reading slashdot rather than ZDNET.
I'm sorry, but this is narrow-minded, ethnocentric rubbish.
Have you considered that maybe the vast bulk of the japanese cosumers don't want a huge, heavy, bloated PC?
A lot of very clever, very tightly packed electronics sells in Japan- a lot of ingenuity is devoted to making things smaller, cuter, neater etc.
Maybe not everyone wants or needs the computer equivalent of a huge gas-guzzling Chevy. People who have powerful PDAs, GPSsen, mobiles phones etc. can often survive quite well, both at home and away from it.
It's a radically different society, so to mark it down because it doesn't conform to the American ideal is a bit facile and wrongheaded, IMHO.
Nah, maybe I wasn't all that clear- I was speculating that they weren't completely deaf to the open src imperative, so where it really matters- on the stuff which IS GPLed (like the kernel, no?) they won't stick their fingers in their ears and yell "I can't hear you".
The point being that this is all rather new, an alledgedly commecial computer company (lest we forget, they have built nothing except some wobbly piles of jargon to date) wrestiong with a substantial GPLed code base.
So yes, I realise that new software written from the ground up can be based on any legalse you chose (subject to statutory rights in the relevant country). However, I was merely interested in the first sign that they could do the open src thing without choking; something which seems too difficult a concept for the lieks fo creative labs etc..
Oddly, this is one of the points I raised on csa misc.
:)
Despite the fact that the "tech" document was mostly PHB hyperbole, it did mention in passing that the Workbench WM was to be open src. This implies that someone has realised the ramifications of the GPL, and is ready to comply with it.
Let's hope so. If there has to be a big, acrimonious and public test case, I would rather (being biased and all) that it was at the cost of someone like Microsoft...
Anyway, I hope I'm not imagining it- go have a look, and see if you can verify my half-baked meanderings
The unifying concept would seem to be shovelware, on the cheap. I don't see that as good for the old Amiga lags, or the Linux camp.
Of course, it goes without saying that I'd rather be proved wrong...
Hellya. It was calm, reasoned, and better yet, had suggestsions for the Way Ahead[tm].
I think things are going to get very intresting very soon.
Yoinks!
Fair comment, I suppose.
I still maintain that it's rather dodgy, but I see where you're coming from- I'll try to cool it down a bit..
Thanks...
-A-
Yeah, they more or less have it nailed now; it runs OK.
Oddly, older versions seemed way more stable, though...
Well, I am biased, I always want to see lots of nice 3d tools.. I used to *adore* Imagine on the Ami.
Give it a while- let XFree 4 with all that DRI stuff get a foothold, so that good, fast 3D becomes more common, and I suspect that you'll see that making some folks up. It's hard to model well without a good preview.
Me, I'm looking forward to it..
(Though I am still tempted to save my hard-earned cash for a copy of 3ds max... when I had a play on a friend's machine, it was wonderful).
Oh, yeah.. now I'm awake.. note I very carefully said people who *advocate* the Amiga...
:-)
There are still a lot of clever folks hacking impressive things on the Amiga; but they are usually doing so just because that's the computer they own; they're not under the impression that this N year old system is a world-beater any more.
As I noted before, people like Jeff Grimmet still know their chops.. the MooVid guy (Lazlo Torok) is a joy.. Chris Bauer's now free shapeshifter is great.. the NewsRog team have produced a superb product etc.
It's the cheerleaders and advocates who are embarassing, though.
(Oh, and I stick by what I said about assembly coders- my assembly slinging friends don't quite see the world in ordinary terms, they're always trying to hack it
No kidding.. my main 4000 is silky smooth when it's working. However, it is trivially crashable (by the dregs of "modern" Amiga apps like ArtEffect), and it just doesn't have the raw power for the things I need to do these days.
:)
Recently I had to edit a 3 hour WAV.. there was no damned way my poor 4000 could deal with that. What's more kernel compiles take an AGE
Still, in its day (maybe 8 years ago), the Amiga was the best solution.
Quite possibly :-)
Every assembly programmer I know (including a lot of old games hacks) are more than a little crazed.. in the nicest possible way..
There are a few very bright people left though- not just the people who complain that install sets are corrupt because the README doesn't have an icon...
Ah well, we'll see how all this shakes out.. but I still get a sinking feeling re: the new Amiga, between Collas and holger's preFUD, I had really expected more.. Glad I went linux some time ago (even on my Amigas).
Bruce,
The criticism stems from the fact that Mr Kruse makes the most popular stack on the Amiga (commercial, based on BSD code). His ethics aren't the highest in the business (though no doubt better than our friends at R*dm*nd), but they are somewhat dodgy.
He stands to gain a great deal by FUDding credulous Amigans.
Lightwave has been dead on the Amiga for years.
:).
There are old broken versions of 5 with loads of missing features, but they are barely useable.
The big push has been for Windows LW and to an extent (in latter days) Mac LW.
If you want LW, boot back into Windows, and make that 3d card sing for its supper (the 3d previews in the current version are NICE with a fasrt card
Shame they seem to raise the price by a random amount with every release. It's priced itself into the 3dsMAX market, and really isn't anywhere as good.
Please remember that most people that still advocate the Amiga aren't the brightest bulbs in the box. A lot of them are a bit bitter because they can't get any *nix working (despite there being great debian and redhat m68k ports which run on the Ami). A lot of them don't really understand what a kernal IS and what it does, and thus nothing they say should be taken without a hefty pinch of salt.
Today on comp.sys.amiga.misc, we've had regulars complaining that linux was so ludicrously bloated that it couldn't run on a p100, someone else claiming that linux was lethally unstable because it uses a monolithic kernel, and lots of little minitrolls screaming about the TCP/IP code, simply because they don't see that H.Kruse[1] is FUDding them into a nice pliable future market.
There's nothing more insecure than an Amiga advocate.
Of course, there are clever, interesting people left, like Jeff Grimmet, Jason Compton and Joe Cosby (all of whom speak in sentences, and can plug the thing in), but on the whole, it's a crazy boneyard flamefest.
Like Mouldy (or is that Skuller?), they want to believe so bad it hurts.
[1] Who produces a very closed src commercial stack, based on BSD code.. which has some interesting litte surrpises, to delete files, send private information to a remote site and crash your machine, under certain circumstances. The face that Holger claims they will be only used for "known pirate" keyfiles mollifies me not one bit. The whole mechanism smacks of less than lofty ethics.
This is also the arrogant fsckwit who put backdoors and or timebombs in his TCP/IP stack (of which I own a scad of legit copies). When challenged on the wisdom of this, he replied that he'd take "any and all means necessary" to protect his software. Of course, when I objected to this on moral and ethical grounds, I got derided as a "Liberal", a "Hippy" and a "Pirate". This was of course, the private hissing and spitting of the csa misc flamebait, but still...
I suspect that he's just blowing up the extent of the problems in order to persuade everyone to buy his NG stack (assuming the NG ever comes out). His business is writing TCP/IP stacks. Simple as that, he's FUDding, just like old Billy Gates.
The link is dud because the guy didn't test his HTML. You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof :)
I have to admit that when Jim Collas posted this on csa misc, I was pretty skeptical, too. I think there's going to be a huge row over this.
Jim Collas is also somewhat less than forthcoming in matters of telling the truth *ahem* so we may never get to the bottom of this.
Still, I wonder if they realise that the GPL will force them to release their kernel mods?
That's just it; in other countries, "Liberal" is not an insult, nor an accusation.
/dev/null, this really isn't a troll. However, some of the more vocal right wingers in the US are going to have to undergo a paradigm shift to cope with being part of a global community.
Sadly, America has some growing up to do (yes, there *are* other countries out there). For all its energy and enthusiasm, it still has a somewhat dysfunctional worldview. Once the acne and the growing pains die down, things might get better.
Flames to
It happened to other countries- the old imperial powers have had to have a rethink. HEll, with the 4th (happy 4th, guys!) just behind us, look at the way that Britain has had to come to terms with its offspring wanting to live their own lives, as well as gettingused to being part of the EU.
Admittedly, they aren't the best Europeans, but at least they're trying.
The whole point of community efforts like the FSF, or indeed the Linux project is co-operation. They are communities untited by a common purpose, rather than divided by tired old political cliches.
Ok, end of ramble..
Hear hear!
I agree with your comments, and what's more was quite interested in BeOS. However, the borderline FUD rubbishing in order to make a tenuous point was a really cheap and dishonest shot. Classic advocate behaivior..
"W-w-w-w-w-why can't we all get along?"
etc.