I am here to make money only and so are 95% of everyone interested. Otherwise dollars would be easier.
If I need to make money I need to learn things or I will end up broke. Smart people learn all their is in everything money related whether it is a career or investment. Warren Buffett refuses to invest in things he doesn't understand. It is common sense.
If you want to take the risk you need to learn and since everyone gets paid in dollars why risk if there is no money to be made?
Where can I sign up for such a security policy? I am willing to to even have them take 5% or more of my earnings for security as I have to share bank account or credit card info to buy and sell and that scares the shit out of me more than losing some bitcoins!!
Well that or you give out your bank account or credit info on these sites.
I mean you need to buy and sell them with real currency right? Right now I need to find a trustworthy place and that is my weakness. I want to invest but do not trust anyone listening via a man in the middle or the server being compromised or worse having it store my info so the Russian mobfia can have it.
Properly setting up a VM, or in fact doing any proper security or even backups is beyond the abilities of most people. If those sorts of measures are required, bitcoins can't become a universal currency.
This is the attitude of someone who is poor or broke. Those who want to make it find a way to do it and learn. VMs are mentioned for anyone who wants to learn about security and computers. If you are investing your hard earned savings it is prudent. I think even Grandma knows about hackers and how things are not always safe. Before you invest real money you research.
I am still researching wallets and transactions as I type this even though I am in IT. I want to prepare before I take the scary step of using a my bank debit card to buy shit off God knows where. Always prepare.
It uses a block chain network for each transactio with everyone else. When you mine you add blocks to the chain so mathematically it is controlled. You cant mine or transact without the control of the block network
Easy you short them when they fall in value by a computer program and you get a bump while the other guy waits for the value to fall.
Or since since bitcoins vanish over time the value goes up unlike housing so economic wise the value has to go no where else but up due to its design as the law of supply vs demand kicks in.
I work hard for my limited money and something like this is a life saver in case I get a trojaned mining app or a website. This will prevent it from getting through.
... and use a VM just for that purpose. Since I do IT I have a copy of VMware workstation and will utilize this for just that purpose to play it safe.
I have one for porn and one I am going to make for litecoin trading as bitcoin is too expensive already:-(
Firefox and Chrome with flash can get you just as infected as IE under Windows in this day and age so any browser is bad. A VM is the only way to stay safe sadly.
Now since CNN and real Wall Street brokers are getting into the act I expect the value to go skyhigh! It went up 1000% in just 12 months.
Even if you think that is non sense Tulip bubble mania all over again you can't ignore the fact that this got some Wall Street investors attention. With supercomputers and high trading algorithms you can bet they will automate the process and prevent it from crashing. Remember if you have a super computer you can make money too by shorting the bitcoin.
You make free money the more volatile it is. This is much more profitable than the dow jones. At this point I doubt it will go away anytime soon.
A platform is a stack such as LAMP. The kernel, OS, and apps, and last use are part of that platform. Windows is just one piece.
Slashdotters keep getting into the argument of whether Android is Linux. I argued no as Linux applies gnu/Linux with an xorg, shell script, unix whatever app. Android is a Linux kernel with a java based proprietary stack on top. Otherwise I am a VMS operator because I run XP at work with a VMS like kernel or a BSD admin because I work on Avaya phones which run on NetBSD.
MS Office is a platform too and if I do office on a Mac I can share with you on Windows. Only outlook and Access are not there.
Well humans tend to do the same behaviors over and over again out of habbit.
Any change whatsoever is flagged as wrong on a pyschological level. So if they are used to see the pretty green hills and blue title bar every morning they will resist and think it is the best thing ever to justify not leaving!
I should not have to fight and get modded own by people saying XP is more secure and the issue must be X or javascript. Funny this bug doesn't hit Windows 7? Why. Duh it is built more securely.
XP is slow, unpredictable, and really not that much lighter. My XP machine at work with an icore5 has its senior moments while my phenomII from 2010 is like butter with Windows 7.
People hate change and slashdotters should be ashamed of promoting and modding up unformed comments on those who hate change. Shoot I am spending more and more time on www.neowin.net instead these days. yes they are fanboys and I realize that, but they at least embrace change and see advantages and are more informed than most slashdotters sadly.
I support users and loose my own free time doing dumb workarounds for 12 year old operating systems for those who like the pretty green hills and blue colors of XP.
Windows 7 is a great OS. Not server grade like Solaris or RHES, but for a consumer OS it is lighter, quicker, stable, and hell of alot more secure.
After gnome 3 I switched back to Windows and haven't looked back. I have a CentOS VM and a FreeBSD VM for any unix stuff I want to do. With the exception of Metro I think the MS of 2013 is not the same company as 2003. IE is usable, Windows 8 is a great OS kernel wise and performs well on low end ARM hardware with Nokia phones. Xboxnone has voice activated commands.
XP gui is supperior is opinion with no facts. Windows 7 aero I can do snap side by side. I have instant search. I can move the cursor down and see preview thumbnails of everything open.
Yes I was an angry MS hater back in the day like yourself but I grew up and MS got its act on quality.
People need Windows not because they love it but they have apps. If that is you Windows 7 doesn't have the bizaare slowdowns, slow disk access that locks things, better security. I love instant search too which changed my mind on WIndows 7. I have tons and tons of files and can access them all in seconds. Hit the Windows key and type? After a week you will see the value.
XP is not user friendly. More than people got used to its reflexes. It is quite behind but people are just familiar with it.
Just because they are comfortable doesn't mean it is the best OS ever made. It doesn't mean the problem must be with javascript. After all I am comfortable and hate change so I will blame something else etc.
I liked XP back in the day. I loved Linux but liked XP back in 2001. Times have changed. XP is dangerous and if you are in IT and still refuse to upgrade you are incompentent.
XP is a damn security nightmare right up there with IE 6. The grand parent is correct and it is 2013. Unfortuantely slashdot has been infiltrated by geeks claiming XP is the best ever and I call them out with their geek card.
I wont be fired if they get cryptolocker trojan and loose their documents because they like the pretty green hills and blue colors. The answer is to stay up to date.
XP certainly has no ASLR or sandboxing. Look it up?
DEP only a few services use it on XP and the browser is not one of them. EVen Firefox and Chrome are not sandboxed due to the lack of kernel support on that ancient OS.
Dude arguing that XP is not broken is like arguing IE 6 is not broken because it runs your corporate websites fine. It most certainly is and there are tons of hacks in that html code to make it even display right that the user does not see. XP has +800 workarounds for tens of thousands of virii each time code executes which is why a 128 meg Pentium III that ran XP fast in 2001 can't run XP SP 3 at all today. You do not see them but they are there and is obvious in performance degradation.
Windows Transfer wizard takes care of moving files over.
If XP was fine then why have this article? That exploit doesn't hit Windows 7 and later now does it?
Run what you want man. To me keeping XP up and running from a fresh install is hell of a lot more of a hassle than Windows 7. Yes hardware fails and good luck trying to re-install XP. Windows update wont even work with a fresh install of XP SP 3 and will hang with 100% CPU if you try. MS has been trying to fix it since July .
You need to change water softeners and repair cars don't you? Yes your computer is more complex than a simple appliance.
Sorry I prefer progress. I like TRIM for my ssds, pin apps and websites, instant search (no more using the all programs with a mouse to find something), ribbons, HTML 5, security, no hangs, side by side SXS.dlls which dynamically link so one.dll doesn't overwite another during an app install, virtualized registry for each user with defrags and doesn't have windows rot... and with Windows 8 instant fast boot up, no memory leaks, less bloat, etc.
Windows 7 is a very superior OS. XP has tons of bugs and quirks and slows down over time. XP was never that great anyway. It became great when Vista came out and loyalists appeared who fight to the death to keep it.
My fathers computer took 5 minutes to boot and always was slow with XP. I put Windows 7 and it is fast now.
I am glad XP is coming to an end as my cell phone is more advanced and more pleasant to use and up to date over it.
Hint... it wont work. The cpu will hit 100% usage and updates wont work. MS knew about this since last July and a fix has yet to be seen. Hair pulling experience. That dinosaur takes more work than installing Solaris and FreeBSD and many many days and hours of patch after patch after fix and KB just to get it semi up to date to run IE 6 (oxymoron) to make my risk adverse customers afraid of change happy.
I wont install XP again. I am done and I had to pirate another VM with it. After April I will just upgrade my ram in my host. Adobe CS 6 products already cancelled support, IE is no longer updated, Chrome will end support soon, Games coming out no longer work on DirectX 9, and the list goes on and on. Even Windows 7 is showing its age as it takes forever with updates on a fresh install and workarounds if you need to test older IE browsers.
If it were not for Metro I would have taken the $40 upgrade as Windows 7 is 5 years old since the first RCs came out! In the old days people would laugh at you for running a 5 year old OS and many here wont even move to that yet?!
Too bad my Ford XT won't be supported much longer with modern airbags and security fixes from cars a century later. It would be a shame if something were to happen to my car... greedy FORD
I think you should learn about exploits as your rant on javascript is an IE 6 issue. Modern browsers have sandboxing to prevent things from just running. You need to exploit the language, then the sandbox, and DSLR or DEP in Windows 7/8 to gain an exploit. Not impossible but much more difficult than in XP which does not have the later security defenses as it was designed in a world of AOL in a trusted network and security meant a good password.
Change can be hard and the only reason to use XP is the fear of change because you are familiar and then find a reason why not to upgrade. XP has been shown to be 600% more likely to be infected than Windows 8.
Have you tried to install XP in the last 6 months in VMware
It has the SVCHost.exe taking 100% cpu utilization bug, updates do not work, this is what happens. It took a week to install XP with my host machine running very hot.
I finally found a fix of looking for a KB randomly for an IE update. MS support and googling had no answer to this but someone in a forum mentioned this fix after many many patches and fixits.
100% of all XP versions are impacted regardless of source as I assumed I had a bad.iso. The thing is the hardest OS to install compared to FreeBSD and other harder oses due to the amount of patches, steps, and other workarounds to get IE 6 working for myself.
I accidently lost my iso folder and I wont miss re-installing XP. I have an XP image still backed up and will gladly just upgrade my ram to use Windows 7 images instead when that nasty outdated dinosaur dies off.
I am here to make money only and so are 95% of everyone interested. Otherwise dollars would be easier.
If I need to make money I need to learn things or I will end up broke. Smart people learn all their is in everything money related whether it is a career or investment. Warren Buffett refuses to invest in things he doesn't understand. It is common sense.
If you want to take the risk you need to learn and since everyone gets paid in dollars why risk if there is no money to be made?
They heat them to 2500 F and the chemical bonds break creating just water, carbon, and some trace elements.
I can see an accident like a puncture to a warhead can be deadly otherwise.
How reliable are they? Who are they? Are they Russian mob owned etc?
Ok
Where can I sign up for such a security policy? I am willing to to even have them take 5% or more of my earnings for security as I have to share bank account or credit card info to buy and sell and that scares the shit out of me more than losing some bitcoins!!
Well that or you give out your bank account or credit info on these sites.
I mean you need to buy and sell them with real currency right? Right now I need to find a trustworthy place and that is my weakness. I want to invest but do not trust anyone listening via a man in the middle or the server being compromised or worse having it store my info so the Russian mobfia can have it.
If you have an alternative I want to hear it?
Properly setting up a VM, or in fact doing any proper security or even backups is beyond the abilities of most people. If those sorts of measures are required, bitcoins can't become a universal currency.
This is the attitude of someone who is poor or broke. Those who want to make it find a way to do it and learn. VMs are mentioned for anyone who wants to learn about security and computers. If you are investing your hard earned savings it is prudent. I think even Grandma knows about hackers and how things are not always safe. Before you invest real money you research.
I am still researching wallets and transactions as I type this even though I am in IT. I want to prepare before I take the scary step of using a my bank debit card to buy shit off God knows where. Always prepare.
It uses a block chain network for each transactio with everyone else. When you mine you add blocks to the chain so mathematically it is controlled. You cant mine or transact without the control of the block network
Easy you short them when they fall in value by a computer program and you get a bump while the other guy waits for the value to fall.
Or since since bitcoins vanish over time the value goes up unlike housing so economic wise the value has to go no where else but up due to its design as the law of supply vs demand kicks in.
Thanks man!
I work hard for my limited money and something like this is a life saver in case I get a trojaned mining app or a website. This will prevent it from getting through.
I
... and use a VM just for that purpose. Since I do IT I have a copy of VMware workstation and will utilize this for just that purpose to play it safe.
I have one for porn and one I am going to make for litecoin trading as bitcoin is too expensive already :-(
Firefox and Chrome with flash can get you just as infected as IE under Windows in this day and age so any browser is bad. A VM is the only way to stay safe sadly.
Now since CNN and real Wall Street brokers are getting into the act I expect the value to go skyhigh! It went up 1000% in just 12 months.
Even if you think that is non sense Tulip bubble mania all over again you can't ignore the fact that this got some Wall Street investors attention. With supercomputers and high trading algorithms you can bet they will automate the process and prevent it from crashing. Remember if you have a super computer you can make money too by shorting the bitcoin.
You make free money the more volatile it is. This is much more profitable than the dow jones. At this point I doubt it will go away anytime soon.
Sure it is.
A platform is a stack such as LAMP. The kernel, OS, and apps, and last use are part of that platform. Windows is just one piece.
Slashdotters keep getting into the argument of whether Android is Linux. I argued no as Linux applies gnu/Linux with an xorg, shell script, unix whatever app. Android is a Linux kernel with a java based proprietary stack on top. Otherwise I am a VMS operator because I run XP at work with a VMS like kernel or a BSD admin because I work on Avaya phones which run on NetBSD.
MS Office is a platform too and if I do office on a Mac I can share with you on Windows. Only outlook and Access are not there.
Well humans tend to do the same behaviors over and over again out of habbit.
Any change whatsoever is flagged as wrong on a pyschological level. So if they are used to see the pretty green hills and blue title bar every morning they will resist and think it is the best thing ever to justify not leaving!
I should not have to fight and get modded own by people saying XP is more secure and the issue must be X or javascript. Funny this bug doesn't hit Windows 7? Why. Duh it is built more securely.
XP is slow, unpredictable, and really not that much lighter. My XP machine at work with an icore5 has its senior moments while my phenomII from 2010 is like butter with Windows 7.
People hate change and slashdotters should be ashamed of promoting and modding up unformed comments on those who hate change. Shoot I am spending more and more time on www.neowin.net instead these days. yes they are fanboys and I realize that, but they at least embrace change and see advantages and are more informed than most slashdotters sadly.
Well it better not be connected to the network.
If the kid intern browses facebook on it and it gets the cryptolocker virus which destroys the files your company will be SOL!
That is rational.
LOL I am a shill?
I support users and loose my own free time doing dumb workarounds for 12 year old operating systems for those who like the pretty green hills and blue colors of XP.
Windows 7 is a great OS. Not server grade like Solaris or RHES, but for a consumer OS it is lighter, quicker, stable, and hell of alot more secure.
After gnome 3 I switched back to Windows and haven't looked back. I have a CentOS VM and a FreeBSD VM for any unix stuff I want to do. With the exception of Metro I think the MS of 2013 is not the same company as 2003. IE is usable, Windows 8 is a great OS kernel wise and performs well on low end ARM hardware with Nokia phones. Xboxnone has voice activated commands.
XP gui is supperior is opinion with no facts. Windows 7 aero I can do snap side by side. I have instant search. I can move the cursor down and see preview thumbnails of everything open.
Yes I was an angry MS hater back in the day like yourself but I grew up and MS got its act on quality.
People need Windows not because they love it but they have apps. If that is you Windows 7 doesn't have the bizaare slowdowns, slow disk access that locks things, better security. I love instant search too which changed my mind on WIndows 7. I have tons and tons of files and can access them all in seconds. Hit the Windows key and type? After a week you will see the value.
XP is not user friendly. More than people got used to its reflexes. It is quite behind but people are just familiar with it.
Just because they are comfortable doesn't mean it is the best OS ever made. It doesn't mean the problem must be with javascript. After all I am comfortable and hate change so I will blame something else etc.
I liked XP back in the day. I loved Linux but liked XP back in 2001. Times have changed. XP is dangerous and if you are in IT and still refuse to upgrade you are incompentent.
XP is a damn security nightmare right up there with IE 6. The grand parent is correct and it is 2013. Unfortuantely slashdot has been infiltrated by geeks claiming XP is the best ever and I call them out with their geek card.
I wont be fired if they get cryptolocker trojan and loose their documents because they like the pretty green hills and blue colors. The answer is to stay up to date.
XP certainly has no ASLR or sandboxing. Look it up?
DEP only a few services use it on XP and the browser is not one of them. EVen Firefox and Chrome are not sandboxed due to the lack of kernel support on that ancient OS.
Dude arguing that XP is not broken is like arguing IE 6 is not broken because it runs your corporate websites fine. It most certainly is and there are tons of hacks in that html code to make it even display right that the user does not see. XP has +800 workarounds for tens of thousands of virii each time code executes which is why a 128 meg Pentium III that ran XP fast in 2001 can't run XP SP 3 at all today. You do not see them but they are there and is obvious in performance degradation.
Windows Transfer wizard takes care of moving files over.
If XP was fine then why have this article? That exploit doesn't hit Windows 7 and later now does it?
Run what you want man. To me keeping XP up and running from a fresh install is hell of a lot more of a hassle than Windows 7. Yes hardware fails and good luck trying to re-install XP. Windows update wont even work with a fresh install of XP SP 3 and will hang with 100% CPU if you try. MS has been trying to fix it since July .
You need to change water softeners and repair cars don't you? Yes your computer is more complex than a simple appliance.
Sorry I prefer progress. I like TRIM for my ssds, pin apps and websites, instant search (no more using the all programs with a mouse to find something), ribbons, HTML 5, security, no hangs, side by side SXS .dlls which dynamically link so one .dll doesn't overwite another during an app install, virtualized registry for each user with defrags and doesn't have windows rot... and with Windows 8 instant fast boot up, no memory leaks, less bloat, etc.
Windows 7 is a very superior OS. XP has tons of bugs and quirks and slows down over time. XP was never that great anyway. It became great when Vista came out and loyalists appeared who fight to the death to keep it.
My fathers computer took 5 minutes to boot and always was slow with XP. I put Windows 7 and it is fast now.
I am glad XP is coming to an end as my cell phone is more advanced and more pleasant to use and up to date over it.
Try installing XP brand new on a VM.
Hint ... it wont work. The cpu will hit 100% usage and updates wont work. MS knew about this since last July and a fix has yet to be seen. Hair pulling experience. That dinosaur takes more work than installing Solaris and FreeBSD and many many days and hours of patch after patch after fix and KB just to get it semi up to date to run IE 6 (oxymoron) to make my risk adverse customers afraid of change happy.
I wont install XP again. I am done and I had to pirate another VM with it. After April I will just upgrade my ram in my host. Adobe CS 6 products already cancelled support, IE is no longer updated, Chrome will end support soon, Games coming out no longer work on DirectX 9, and the list goes on and on. Even Windows 7 is showing its age as it takes forever with updates on a fresh install and workarounds if you need to test older IE browsers.
If it were not for Metro I would have taken the $40 upgrade as Windows 7 is 5 years old since the first RCs came out! In the old days people would laugh at you for running a 5 year old OS and many here wont even move to that yet?!
It wont work if you have a fresh VM. It will go under as well.
The trick is to find a recent IE 6 security patch. The cause is 1000+ bug fixes buffer overflowing the database.
Yeah it is the press releases THATS IT.
XP never had any security issues and I do not want to change and I am familiar with it so it must be the press releases.
Too bad my Ford XT won't be supported much longer with modern airbags and security fixes from cars a century later. It would be a shame if something were to happen to my car ... greedy FORD
I think you should learn about exploits as your rant on javascript is an IE 6 issue. Modern browsers have sandboxing to prevent things from just running. You need to exploit the language, then the sandbox, and DSLR or DEP in Windows 7/8 to gain an exploit. Not impossible but much more difficult than in XP which does not have the later security defenses as it was designed in a world of AOL in a trusted network and security meant a good password.
Change can be hard and the only reason to use XP is the fear of change because you are familiar and then find a reason why not to upgrade. XP has been shown to be 600% more likely to be infected than Windows 8.
Have you tried to install XP in the last 6 months in VMware
It has the SVCHost.exe taking 100% cpu utilization bug, updates do not work, this is what happens. It took a week to install XP with my host machine running very hot.
I finally found a fix of looking for a KB randomly for an IE update. MS support and googling had no answer to this but someone in a forum mentioned this fix after many many patches and fixits.
100% of all XP versions are impacted regardless of source as I assumed I had a bad .iso. The thing is the hardest OS to install compared to FreeBSD and other harder oses due to the amount of patches, steps, and other workarounds to get IE 6 working for myself.
I accidently lost my iso folder and I wont miss re-installing XP. I have an XP image still backed up and will gladly just upgrade my ram to use Windows 7 images instead when that nasty outdated dinosaur dies off.
If its linked dynamically or statically anywhere then that must be opened too. Read the license?
Developers are so uninformed on this. Its why Iced Tea had to include a classpath exception or Redhat and its customers couldnt use it.