That can be standard on some contracts where it is critical that someone finish their term such as teaching where kids do not have a teacher or a Windows 7 migration project.
I had one employer who did this and I agreed. THen they claimed to let me go due to budget problems only to rehire me 2 weeks later. SInce they violated the contract I felt after 4 months I had the right when it was brought up during my 2 week notice. They realized I was right and didn't want to muddy the waters so they agreed to give me a positive reference when I left.
For permanent employment that is a very assholish clause and I wonder why the COO would want to go back to that?
Not because the assholes at work deserve it, rather you deserve and you are better as an adult not to sink to their level.
If you leave without a reference they win and you get screwed over again in the job search.
You can argue about how employers do not give you the 2 weeks why should you give them that! But economic reality is the employer always has the bargaining power and there is little or nothing you can do to change this.
My story: I left and fired my employer just like they fire other people. I mentioned what was acceptable and not for the contract and work load and pay and customer satisfaction (they were not treating them well).
1. After being abused and picked on and not appreciated I had a talk and documented it in an email. 2. Next, I had a second talk with her and her boss about what is going on and how we can over come this and they were not open 3. After cussing at me over something over my control and near sabatage for helping a vice president out that threatened me with discipline for not following orders as I was supposed to blow her off I frankly had it. 4. Forth interaction I treated it like a firing. I said on this date you said this and that and you failed to deliver. We talked about this remember? I do not like how I am being treated. I do not feel valued or appreciated. You are not happy with me here anyway right?
At this point I am officially giving you my 2 week notice as I do not feel we have a good fit.
It was very liberating and the look on their faces was that of shock. The bosses boss begged me to come back:-( But I made a deal and a deal is a deal. So in essence I won and got a reference and stood up for myself in a professional method using their own medicine.
Don't let the assholes win by screwing you over. If you want to stand up for the man in the mirror the best thing you can do is to just have the guts to tell them: 1. On this date you did this and I did not appreciate it 2. On this date we talked about how we could work together and you blew me off or whatever x or Y might be when that didn't work in your situation 3. I do not feel this is a good working arrangement and after multiple attemps I feel we need to part ways for the betterment for both of us.
I therefore, am giving my 2 week notice.:-)
That is what I did 2 weeks ago and kept my reference (not from the abusive boss) but from her boss and HR.
In essence it was a reverse firing. Give the 2 weeks not because you are kissing up to them but because you: a. Have bills to pay regardless b. In this economic climate the employer wins and leaving without a 2 week is suicide. There is nothing you can do to change this as I agree it is unfair that employers do not give us that, but you need to think forward.
I counted my days and it seemed like forever but trust me I had to do and I am glad. The abusive bosses felt sad and worried and shut up after the 2 weeks. I knew I won and have extra $$$ which is needed as I do job searches.
In this current economic climate I or anyone wont hire anyone with a gap on their resume or without a reference recently.
That brings big flags! Terrible advise.
Why would I even talk to you when I get 55 applications within 48 hours from desperate out of work people! It is not 1999 anymore and ask anyone who was hot shit back then who got laid off between 2009 - 2012 how well their job search is going? Yes, on good terms you can be hired elsewhere.
No references then it is Walmart and minimum wage for you! That is just reality
Sales droids use enterprise thinking it means stable, mature, proven.
When I hear enterprise I hear overpriced, rented, mediocre quality.
There was a time when only IBM was enterprise ready and real mainframes were required for real business work like word processing or simple file serving and inventory management. Zdnet who owns PCMagazine made fun of the first wintel/Novelltel servers calling them PCs on steriods when Compaq invented the filepro or whatever the first server was called. Banks and financial institutions even ignored them as they were not enterprise ready.
Now who has the laugh? Were mini computers like DECs also considered non enterprise ready and poor mans substitutes back in the 60s and 70s and not enterprise ready too? It would not surprise me.
On paper it appears you saved all this money for the beancounters so they can get there raises for being soo smart!
Problem was desktop support was forbidden to do anything besides support desktops and it is a 2 week response time!! Your sap is not working... sorry we can't support that go call Fred in Illinios as this shadow IT group takes care of that.
Lisa is one smart cookie who hates I.T! She figured out if she can use a cloud for the new accounting system she wont have to wait 2 weeks for a response. Guess what. The business process requires Johnny to check something and the bank to respond. Johnny goes on vacation and now Lisa is helpless and IT can not help he as Johnny clears and is the auditor for Lisa who use their own invented system. Lisa leaves 6 months later and Johnny is in another state and a new guy who comes in and is lost and takes a month to learn this weird process they do which no one else in the company knows about.
That financial report is now lost and the SEC fines the company etc.
You have business process engineering doing its own thing, Finance doing its own thing, and other departments who now can't integrate and work together as SAP had modules for these functions but each department thought they could save money and work around I.T. with their own clouds.
You lose money in the long term.
When this 1400 employee count had 6 I.T. guys instead of 2 shit would get done and none of this nonsense existed. Reports were never late. Response time was in 30 minutes, not 2 weeks, a new employee would get a new computer and his software installed before he started, not wait a month before things are configured etc. How money are you really saving?
Yes clouds do make sense, but using them like H1B1 or outsourcing to save costs is the wrong reason. They are there to promote efficient to work with your existing system not replace what you have.
I am sure that Foxconn would still be more than happy to open their new rumored plant in Brazil and help one of the most impoverished countries in the world better themselves after this!
First off, there is a general sense and a scientific sense definitions. The world has less methane and CO2 then when the dinosaurs were around and the atmosphere was thicker so of course the world is much colder.
We wont ever leave the scientific definition of an ice age until the sun expands as a result.
In a general sense we are out of an ice age. In the real world only scientist use such definitions as glaciation only happens in a few spots in the world today. Ice only happens in the winter typically in latitudes over 45 degrees occasionally and more towards 50 to 60 does snow and ice occur regularly for a portion of the year hence why people do not consider the current time frame an ice age.
Second, it is a fact that the ice ages (in a general sense) occur from the following: 1. Variations in Earth orbit is accepted as science 2. The sun is closer in winter which means the southern hemisphere has less energy in its winter time where it is almost all water which moderates temperature. The summer solstice in the last glacier period occured in December and land cools much faster than water. Hence why Seattle sees rain almost all winter and Minnesota sees Arctic conditions. Likewise the southern oceans are hell of alot warmer than its anti latitudes of its Siberian and Canadian counter parts. 3. As snow and ice expand they reflect sunlight away from the surface and cool things down so the spring and summer sunlight does not warm things up as much as if it were all melted. Which is why it is always bone chilling cold after it snows typically for a few days 4. There are some theories that when it cooled down CO2 froze into dry ice and accumulated at the poles. Currently Antarctica can get down to -80 and -109 is when CO2 freezes which is not such a far fetched theory. This would cause a chain reaction with less C02 creating more dry ice and lower temperatures
Sounds like you have been watching too much Fox News?
Libya is the most moderate and pro western friendly government int the middle east! The muslim brotherhood there got around 10% of the votes. The people had no desire for this and had choices.
You do know the majority of Egyptians oppose Morsi? The elections were setup in a way where a former Marbarak henchman vs a Morsi were your only 2 votes. They voted agaisnt marbarek more than voted for Morsi. Then Morsi gave himself god like powers and dissolved parliment.
The election was flawed inthe first place and rushed.
The way it was setup insured there were only 2 choices. Center and left was fractured while the right was united through a single radical muslim. So the rule of 2 applied where you had a former Mabarik henchman corrupt or a radical muslim and no further candidates? If you were Egyptian who would you vote for?
A dictator under corrupt American imperialist or freedom from a religious group who is fanatical, yet was not part of the old boss club?
American anology would be Pat Robertson who promises a Christian theocracy or King George III who promises a return to the old? Wouldnt must of you protest too?
These are what the post Morsi protests to ask the army to remove him were about? Majority of Egyptians oppose Morsi like the majority of Americans and Floridians voted for Al Gore, yet Harris threw out enough ballots to tip it to Bush combined with Electoral College caused the anti Bush bias you see and divided country. Egypt is the same. Divided with one group thinks its legit and the other feels robbed.
Are they insane? Six grand for a server OS that literally can be replicated with any Linux distribution and a few things like SAMBA, Rsnapshot, etc? So long as it LOOKS like a Windows server to the user community, they don't care.
I take it you have not seen an Oracle License for Solaris have you?
They go for up to $100,000 as the database is part of the deal whether you need it or not!
$6,000 is laughable cheap as the real cost comes when Samba doesn't work for a 3,000 user environment where shit wont break because of a Windows Update to the clients or if you need virtualization.
VSPhere last time I looked was $8000+. So $6,000 is -$2000 less than debian plus VSPhere to run your virtual machines believe it or not. Dynamic I/o that moves the requests to the least uitilized SAN/volume means hardware savings too and Linux (outside of IBM's flavor) still does not have this.
The enteprise is totally different than the desktop world.
I know Oracle started the latest craze with banning benchmarks if you want to evaluate or use their products as soon as SQL Server caught which is fucking bullshit!
If the EULA's would allow I think a Redhat enterprise vs Windows DataCenter test on a 8 core as well as 24 core system with I/O, costs, and speed would be interesting.
Normally I favor Unix for servers and price as a crappy old desktop can be a great server if you are dirt cheap unlike Windows Server. But Windows 2012 Server has come a long way. 1. Fast I/O where it picks volumes and SANs with the least I/O to put more tasks dynamically 2. SMB/AD data compression 3. A level 1 HyperV bare metal hypervisor now that goes head to head with VMWare's VSphere 4. Kernel and service compatible VM. Now when you create a Windows Server VM it does not use 100% of the ram. Like Linux it dynamically grows as the VM uses more
The cost difference is negligable when you need real shit done compared to the hardware purchase and the outrageous cost of VMWare products. Redhat has its own VM service but it is a joke and no one uses it.
Maybe I should email MaximumPC and Tomshardware for such a showdown?
Fact of the matter I.T.is there to help them do business. Nothing more and nothing less. They do not care about freedom or what someone says on slashdot. They use software that is made for Windows only to do this. Just because it runs on Windows does not mean it is crap.
It has been said a million times people do not want to be free of Microsoft. Slashdotters who have not run Windows in a decade are unaware it is not based on DOS anymore. It doesn't crash. It is not buggy anymore. It works. Maybe there is no other peice of software that works for thier niche set of processes that is available on Unix? Maybe the CEO had a round of golf with the sales person and no platform was discussed when they shook hands on it with a beer later?
In many ways Linux is not favorable to the average person who sees no need to free themselves?
Linux does not even have a stable ABI which means an update can break ATI drivers. It is not a good desktop OS for this reason as Hairyfeet has mentioned he tried selling Linux boxen. Customers always return them when an update breaks something or a printer doesn't work. Since Windows has an ABI it means a driver or piece of software will work between versions! Unix has it but Linux does not as it would encourage people to write binary blobs... oh the horrors.
I favor FreeBSD for this reason but you need an expensive Redhat certified system because of the driver issue and them working with the server vendor so you save little if anything anyway. Add VSphere to the mix and it is more expensive than Windows Data center on the same hardware if you want to run virtual machines.
Office and Photoshop work. SAP works. That VBA macro for Excel and Access that Bob wrote in Finance that is now a central business process that makes money works! You cost money as a cost center.
Now who do you think the big boss will listen too? Bob that wrote that VBA macro/SAP salesperson that generated 3 million dollars, or some nerd who recites things from RMS who costs $60,000 a year? Your ass will be shown the door. Simple.
I used to be like you but man the real world is different than my Moms place and college where I played with Linux and FreeBSD. Money is money and whatever helps generate it with the least hassle wins and of course politics if you want job security.
CIO screaming: Fix those damn servers are sales team is about to lose 1 million dollars now billly !!! We are LOSING $60,000 an hour in LOST BUSINESS
Billly: Sorry boss, I wanted save $2,000 instead and will post on some internet forums like ask slashdot and www.experts-exchange.com by going with CentOS. YOu will get an answer in a few days don't worry. It is free software so everyone has taken a look at the source code.
CIO:......H.R. give Billy Gates his last pay check and then kick your fucking high heels into his ass as hard as you can while you KICK THIS LOSER OUT THE DOOR!
In the real world this shit doesn't fly and when you talk about the evils of MS and closed source they will view you as that crazy guy who talks to himself about the USSR on the subway.
Netcraft.com shows the opposite for the past 5 years actually.
IIS is gaining popularity as Windows is replacing Unix. Linux is stagnant the last time I looked. With MS CRM the lockin is actually increasing and many 3rd party products link to SQL Server rather than Oralce now requiring more Windows Servers.
Help desk ticking systems to backups for MS Access databases are driving this.
So you mean this is why Microsoft's net income has basically TRIPLED over the last 10 years?
Profit isn't really the best measurement of the success of a company in an expanding industry. Even if your profit increased, if over the same period you've lost market share, you've essentially failed. Not that I have any clue what MS market share looks like over the last 10 years; you still might be correct.
Son, please tell me you do not work for a for profit company?
"Remember, when you run a datacenter edition, all your VM's are automagically licensed."
This is an increase in the cost of the Datacenter version, not a comparison of the Datacenter version to non-Datacenter versions, so your point is meaningless.
Not meaningless at all. Customers dont buy them to play solitare. They buy them to run VMs and the cost of the OS is only one tiny part of the equation. To me even with the price increase I can save double over the cost of VSphere. IT costs keep going up. Mostly sharks like VMWare and Oracle causing it
From Windows 2008 a ton. Its finally vm ready where if you allocate 2 gigs of ram it wont use a 100% of the ram. Like Linux it will dynamically use it. It supports AD data compression too which is nice for slow wan links. You can now run a dns and ad controller in a VM finally! Also HyperV is now a type 1 virtualizer and goes head to head with VMware.That is the biggest selling point for the datacenter edition.
R2 just has a sily role menu to chose from over R1 and some IIs feautures.
So no business reason over R1. However over 2008 it is cheaper even with the extra cost than Vsphere plus outdated system.
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That can be standard on some contracts where it is critical that someone finish their term such as teaching where kids do not have a teacher or a Windows 7 migration project.
I had one employer who did this and I agreed. THen they claimed to let me go due to budget problems only to rehire me 2 weeks later. SInce they violated the contract I felt after 4 months I had the right when it was brought up during my 2 week notice. They realized I was right and didn't want to muddy the waters so they agreed to give me a positive reference when I left.
For permanent employment that is a very assholish clause and I wonder why the COO would want to go back to that?
Not because the assholes at work deserve it, rather you deserve and you are better as an adult not to sink to their level.
If you leave without a reference they win and you get screwed over again in the job search.
You can argue about how employers do not give you the 2 weeks why should you give them that! But economic reality is the employer always has the bargaining power and there is little or nothing you can do to change this.
My story:
I left and fired my employer just like they fire other people. I mentioned what was acceptable and not for the contract and work load and pay and customer satisfaction (they were not treating them well).
1. After being abused and picked on and not appreciated I had a talk and documented it in an email.
2. Next, I had a second talk with her and her boss about what is going on and how we can over come this and they were not open
3. After cussing at me over something over my control and near sabatage for helping a vice president out that threatened me with discipline for not following orders as I was supposed to blow her off I frankly had it.
4. Forth interaction I treated it like a firing. I said on this date you said this and that and you failed to deliver. We talked about this remember? I do not like how I am being treated. I do not feel valued or appreciated. You are not happy with me here anyway right?
At this point I am officially giving you my 2 week notice as I do not feel we have a good fit.
It was very liberating and the look on their faces was that of shock. The bosses boss begged me to come back :-( But I made a deal and a deal is a deal. So in essence I won and got a reference and stood up for myself in a professional method using their own medicine.
I was in your boat trust me it is hard!
Don't let the assholes win by screwing you over. If you want to stand up for the man in the mirror the best thing you can do is to just have the guts to tell them:
1. On this date you did this and I did not appreciate it
2. On this date we talked about how we could work together and you blew me off or whatever x or Y might be when that didn't work in your situation
3. I do not feel this is a good working arrangement and after multiple attemps I feel we need to part ways for the betterment for both of us.
I therefore, am giving my 2 week notice. :-)
That is what I did 2 weeks ago and kept my reference (not from the abusive boss) but from her boss and HR.
In essence it was a reverse firing. Give the 2 weeks not because you are kissing up to them but because you:
a. Have bills to pay regardless
b. In this economic climate the employer wins and leaving without a 2 week is suicide. There is nothing you can do to change this as I agree it is unfair that employers do not give us that, but you need to think forward.
I counted my days and it seemed like forever but trust me I had to do and I am glad. The abusive bosses felt sad and worried and shut up after the 2 weeks. I knew I won and have extra $$$ which is needed as I do job searches.
In this current economic climate I or anyone wont hire anyone with a gap on their resume or without a reference recently.
That brings big flags! Terrible advise.
Why would I even talk to you when I get 55 applications within 48 hours from desperate out of work people! It is not 1999 anymore and ask anyone who was hot shit back then who got laid off between 2009 - 2012 how well their job search is going? Yes, on good terms you can be hired elsewhere.
No references then it is Walmart and minimum wage for you! That is just reality
Sales droids use enterprise thinking it means stable, mature, proven.
When I hear enterprise I hear overpriced, rented, mediocre quality.
There was a time when only IBM was enterprise ready and real mainframes were required for real business work like word processing or simple file serving and inventory management. Zdnet who owns PCMagazine made fun of the first wintel/Novelltel servers calling them PCs on steriods when Compaq invented the filepro or whatever the first server was called. Banks and financial institutions even ignored them as they were not enterprise ready.
Now who has the laugh? Were mini computers like DECs also considered non enterprise ready and poor mans substitutes back in the 60s and 70s and not enterprise ready too? It would not surprise me.
I worked for such a client.
On paper it appears you saved all this money for the beancounters so they can get there raises for being soo smart!
Problem was desktop support was forbidden to do anything besides support desktops and it is a 2 week response time!! Your sap is not working ... sorry we can't support that go call Fred in Illinios as this shadow IT group takes care of that.
Lisa is one smart cookie who hates I.T! She figured out if she can use a cloud for the new accounting system she wont have to wait 2 weeks for a response. Guess what. The business process requires Johnny to check something and the bank to respond. Johnny goes on vacation and now Lisa is helpless and IT can not help he as Johnny clears and is the auditor for Lisa who use their own invented system. Lisa leaves 6 months later and Johnny is in another state and a new guy who comes in and is lost and takes a month to learn this weird process they do which no one else in the company knows about.
That financial report is now lost and the SEC fines the company etc.
You have business process engineering doing its own thing, Finance doing its own thing, and other departments who now can't integrate and work together as SAP had modules for these functions but each department thought they could save money and work around I.T. with their own clouds.
You lose money in the long term.
When this 1400 employee count had 6 I.T. guys instead of 2 shit would get done and none of this nonsense existed. Reports were never late. Response time was in 30 minutes, not 2 weeks, a new employee would get a new computer and his software installed before he started, not wait a month before things are configured etc. How money are you really saving?
Yes clouds do make sense, but using them like H1B1 or outsourcing to save costs is the wrong reason. They are there to promote efficient to work with your existing system not replace what you have.
Or the cynic in me feels they are contributing to the project so they can copyright and patent the hell out of it.
That would fulfill his argument on it being a toy for poor people and if you want to not have a liability than pay me ala SCO/Oracle.
I am sure that Foxconn would still be more than happy to open their new rumored plant in Brazil and help one of the most impoverished countries in the world better themselves after this!
Oh please.
First off, there is a general sense and a scientific sense definitions. The world has less methane and CO2 then when the dinosaurs were around and the atmosphere was thicker so of course the world is much colder.
We wont ever leave the scientific definition of an ice age until the sun expands as a result.
In a general sense we are out of an ice age. In the real world only scientist use such definitions as glaciation only happens in a few spots in the world today. Ice only happens in the winter typically in latitudes over 45 degrees occasionally and more towards 50 to 60 does snow and ice occur regularly for a portion of the year hence why people do not consider the current time frame an ice age.
Second, it is a fact that the ice ages (in a general sense) occur from the following:
1. Variations in Earth orbit is accepted as science
2. The sun is closer in winter which means the southern hemisphere has less energy in its winter time where it is almost all water which moderates temperature. The summer solstice in the last glacier period occured in December and land cools much faster than water. Hence why Seattle sees rain almost all winter and Minnesota sees Arctic conditions. Likewise the southern oceans are hell of alot warmer than its anti latitudes of its Siberian and Canadian counter parts.
3. As snow and ice expand they reflect sunlight away from the surface and cool things down so the spring and summer sunlight does not warm things up as much as if it were all melted. Which is why it is always bone chilling cold after it snows typically for a few days
4. There are some theories that when it cooled down CO2 froze into dry ice and accumulated at the poles. Currently Antarctica can get down to -80 and -109 is when CO2 freezes which is not such a far fetched theory. This would cause a chain reaction with less C02 creating more dry ice and lower temperatures
Sounds like you have been watching too much Fox News?
Libya is the most moderate and pro western friendly government int the middle east! The muslim brotherhood there got around 10% of the votes. The people had no desire for this and had choices.
No the majority of Americans voted for Gore
You do know the majority of Egyptians oppose Morsi? The elections were setup in a way where a former Marbarak henchman vs a Morsi were your only 2 votes. They voted agaisnt marbarek more than voted for Morsi. Then Morsi gave himself god like powers and dissolved parliment.
The election was flawed inthe first place and rushed.
The way it was setup insured there were only 2 choices. Center and left was fractured while the right was united through a single radical muslim. So the rule of 2 applied where you had a former Mabarik henchman corrupt or a radical muslim and no further candidates? If you were Egyptian who would you vote for?
A dictator under corrupt American imperialist or freedom from a religious group who is fanatical, yet was not part of the old boss club?
American anology would be Pat Robertson who promises a Christian theocracy or King George III who promises a return to the old? Wouldnt must of you protest too?
These are what the post Morsi protests to ask the army to remove him were about? Majority of Egyptians oppose Morsi like the majority of Americans and Floridians voted for Al Gore, yet Harris threw out enough ballots to tip it to Bush combined with Electoral College caused the anti Bush bias you see and divided country. Egypt is the same. Divided with one group thinks its legit and the other feels robbed.
Libya is fine and done right
Great I can now walk into any club or bar with the ultimate app to get chics. Outlook!
Man I knew something was the last time I tried to shew them my surface
Well appearently you are as you do not know what a real business needs in the enterprise market are and never worked in such an environment before.
Are they insane? Six grand for a server OS that literally can be replicated with any Linux distribution and a few things like SAMBA, Rsnapshot, etc? So long as it LOOKS like a Windows server to the user community, they don't care.
I take it you have not seen an Oracle License for Solaris have you?
They go for up to $100,000 as the database is part of the deal whether you need it or not!
$6,000 is laughable cheap as the real cost comes when Samba doesn't work for a 3,000 user environment where shit wont break because of a Windows Update to the clients or if you need virtualization.
VSPhere last time I looked was $8000+. So $6,000 is -$2000 less than debian plus VSPhere to run your virtual machines believe it or not. Dynamic I/o that moves the requests to the least uitilized SAN/volume means hardware savings too and Linux (outside of IBM's flavor) still does not have this.
The enteprise is totally different than the desktop world.
I would like to see a good geekbenchmark.
I know Oracle started the latest craze with banning benchmarks if you want to evaluate or use their products as soon as SQL Server caught which is fucking bullshit!
If the EULA's would allow I think a Redhat enterprise vs Windows DataCenter test on a 8 core as well as 24 core system with I/O, costs, and speed would be interesting.
Normally I favor Unix for servers and price as a crappy old desktop can be a great server if you are dirt cheap unlike Windows Server. But Windows 2012 Server has come a long way.
1. Fast I/O where it picks volumes and SANs with the least I/O to put more tasks dynamically
2. SMB/AD data compression
3. A level 1 HyperV bare metal hypervisor now that goes head to head with VMWare's VSphere
4. Kernel and service compatible VM. Now when you create a Windows Server VM it does not use 100% of the ram. Like Linux it dynamically grows as the VM uses more
The cost difference is negligable when you need real shit done compared to the hardware purchase and the outrageous cost of VMWare products. Redhat has its own VM service but it is a joke and no one uses it.
Maybe I should email MaximumPC and Tomshardware for such a showdown?
It does matter what they do with it to justify the expense.
If the hypervisor is improved it means ditching VSphere and better I/O means less SANs so the cost would be offset.
Who says it is MS CRM or whatever?
Fact of the matter I.T.is there to help them do business. Nothing more and nothing less. They do not care about freedom or what someone says on slashdot. They use software that is made for Windows only to do this. Just because it runs on Windows does not mean it is crap.
It has been said a million times people do not want to be free of Microsoft. Slashdotters who have not run Windows in a decade are unaware it is not based on DOS anymore. It doesn't crash. It is not buggy anymore. It works. Maybe there is no other peice of software that works for thier niche set of processes that is available on Unix? Maybe the CEO had a round of golf with the sales person and no platform was discussed when they shook hands on it with a beer later?
In many ways Linux is not favorable to the average person who sees no need to free themselves?
Linux does not even have a stable ABI which means an update can break ATI drivers. It is not a good desktop OS for this reason as Hairyfeet has mentioned he tried selling Linux boxen. Customers always return them when an update breaks something or a printer doesn't work. Since Windows has an ABI it means a driver or piece of software will work between versions! Unix has it but Linux does not as it would encourage people to write binary blobs ... oh the horrors.
I favor FreeBSD for this reason but you need an expensive Redhat certified system because of the driver issue and them working with the server vendor so you save little if anything anyway. Add VSphere to the mix and it is more expensive than Windows Data center on the same hardware if you want to run virtual machines.
Office and Photoshop work. SAP works. That VBA macro for Excel and Access that Bob wrote in Finance that is now a central business process that makes money works! You cost money as a cost center.
Now who do you think the big boss will listen too? Bob that wrote that VBA macro/SAP salesperson that generated 3 million dollars, or some nerd who recites things from RMS who costs $60,000 a year? Your ass will be shown the door. Simple.
I used to be like you but man the real world is different than my Moms place and college where I played with Linux and FreeBSD. Money is money and whatever helps generate it with the least hassle wins and of course politics if you want job security.
Ah no.
CIO screaming: Fix those damn servers are sales team is about to lose 1 million dollars now billly !!! We are LOSING $60,000 an hour in LOST BUSINESS
Billly: Sorry boss, I wanted save $2,000 instead and will post on some internet forums like ask slashdot and www.experts-exchange.com by going with CentOS. YOu will get an answer in a few days don't worry. It is free software so everyone has taken a look at the source code.
CIO: ......H.R. give Billy Gates his last pay check and then kick your fucking high heels into his ass as hard as you can while you KICK THIS LOSER OUT THE DOOR!
In the real world this shit doesn't fly and when you talk about the evils of MS and closed source they will view you as that crazy guy who talks to himself about the USSR on the subway.
Netcraft.com shows the opposite for the past 5 years actually.
IIS is gaining popularity as Windows is replacing Unix. Linux is stagnant the last time I looked. With MS CRM the lockin is actually increasing and many 3rd party products link to SQL Server rather than Oralce now requiring more Windows Servers.
Help desk ticking systems to backups for MS Access databases are driving this.
So you mean this is why Microsoft's net income has basically TRIPLED over the last 10 years?
Profit isn't really the best measurement of the success of a company in an expanding industry. Even if your profit increased, if over the same period you've lost market share, you've essentially failed. Not that I have any clue what MS market share looks like over the last 10 years; you still might be correct.
Son, please tell me you do not work for a for profit company?
Good, even smaller chances that someone will buy it.
I know. I am soo going to buy an Oracle license
This is an increase in the cost of the Datacenter version, not a comparison of the Datacenter version to non-Datacenter versions, so your point is meaningless.
Not meaningless at all. Customers dont buy them to play solitare. They buy them to run VMs and the cost of the OS is only one tiny part of the equation. To me even with the price increase I can save double over the cost of VSphere. IT costs keep going up. Mostly sharks like VMWare and Oracle causing it
From Windows 2008 a ton. Its finally vm ready where if you allocate 2 gigs of ram it wont use a 100% of the ram. Like Linux it will dynamically use it. It supports AD data compression too which is nice for slow wan links. You can now run a dns and ad controller in a VM finally! Also HyperV is now a type 1 virtualizer and goes head to head with VMware.That is the biggest selling point for the datacenter edition.
R2 just has a sily role menu to chose from over R1 and some IIs feautures.
So no business reason over R1. However over 2008 it is cheaper even with the extra cost than Vsphere plus outdated system.