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Nvidia CEO: We Are Working On Next Generation Surface
UnknowingFool writes "CEO Jen-Hsun Huang has told CNET that Nvidia is working with Microsoft on the next generation of Surface tablets. While sales of the first generation have been poor, Huang believes the second generation will be more successful with the inclusion of Outlook."
Huang believes the second generation will be more successful with the inclusion of Outlook
Yay, Outlook
Hopefully it'll include a more power efficient Haswell chip. The Surface Pro was promising but lacked sufficient battery life.
When it actually becomes useful. At least with the iPad you can use it to play Angry Birds.
Yeah, I went there, boyfriend. *snaps fingers in a Z formation*
Magic 8-ball says "Outlook not so good".
Just sayin'...
OSX pwns.
and not lock it to metro only
Lets hope Mr.Paperclip will come back as well,
yay another generation of a product for a niche that doesn't exist.
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Eventually Microsoft will run out of money to bribe partners and will have to give up. Surely they've alienated a number of companies with all of their failed mobile hardware attempts. There is no evidence that they'll succeed. I'm sure Nvidia will be sorry in a few years.
Outlook? Sign me the fuck up!
They should focus in making hardware and drivers for everything, if people don't like the included OS, should be able to change it for something else (android, ubuntu touch, plasma active, whatever). If its only for Microsoft, their are tying their ship to the Titanic, just after it hit the iceberg.
What will the unemployment rate be if you include all of Microsoft?
News just in vets are now using Outlook to revive dead horses.
I just got an amazing toy. It's got all these free built in applications. It comes with an e-mail client. It has a beautiful 1920x1080 display and responsive touch screen..
It was only $229 and it was made by Asus for Google. Seriously, you intend to compete with that? The margins on the device have to be thin. How does Microsoft plan to make it up? Do I need an Office 365 subscription to go with it?
Call me skeptical. The first iteration of tablet wasn't that good, I still hate Windows 8, and the price point you'd have to get to in order to make me consider a Win8 tablet is so low, it would be unprofitable. Those people who would buy the Win8 tablet at $200, will just as happy with the Android equivalent.
That, or if you drop it, about 3 inches before it hits the ground, tiny little airbags will break the fall.
Perhaps they are creating a roll out device. 8 inches by 1 inch, but rolls out to a full 20 inches across.
Maybe they'll integrate full android app compatibility?
Maybe the thing will have little legs that come out so that when it's at the other side of the room, you can call it over to you because you're on the sofa.
Is it possible that there will be no screen and there will be lasers that will just shoot the image directly into your eyes?
Some may think that when you buy many of them, you can put them together and the screens mesh together so well that not even one pixel is out of place in the suddenly larger screen that you have.
Maybe they will really make it 3 millimeters thick... really, that would be a pretty nice change.
Maybe the OS will really allow you to "Operate the System", you know someone should really make one of those for a phone or tablet, I don't think they exist yet.
well it's gotta be something good right? Not just more of the same to think they'll break the ice.
Maybe the Surface 2.0 will sell twice as many tablets as the current product, doubling market share, to four customers.
Unfortunately both current Windows tablet customers will feel cheated with their now-obsolete tablets.
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Because nobody cares about or wants the current generation surface except a buncha fanboys.
Really? Outlook's what's going to save the day? Well, there's a first time for anything.
Please don't, Microsoft, I deal with outlook and exchange everyday. From Office 2003 through 2013, server 2003 through 2012, exchange 2003 - 2013, noting but a giant hunk of crap taking up rack space. Nothing but problems, problems and more problems. The little linux server tucked away at the bottom of the rack with a little layer of dust on it? Never has a problem. But those windows servers? Countless hours of sleep lost by all employees because of how often they go down. Please don't include outlook, it hardly works with your own exchange server and works far worse with technologies not developed by you. For the sake of what hair is left on my head, PLEASE STOP.
I was at a mall this evening and though it was funny that the little kiosk that used to demo the Surface Pro/RT was gone...until my wife pointed out that it's because they just opened a "Microsoft Store". I had to see it, and sure enough it was an incredibly thorough facsimile of an apple store, except the "geniuses" (I wonder what they call them...) had purple shirts, and of course there was microsoft crap on all of the extremely well-lit Ikea-esque tables instead of apple crap.
I'm kind of a bystander in the MS/Apple flamewar (for work and personal use I have a suped-up macbook pro that runs a Windows7 VM) but the sight of this down to the wood-grain copy of an Apple store just made me feel pity for Microsoft. I mean, jesus, it was already clear that their business model since the Zune has been "do what apple does, seems to work", but this place takes it to a new level.
I like Windows7, I loved my xbox (until I had a kid and gave it to a cousin after 2 years of non-use), they can do some shit right and should accentuate that instead of this across the board pathetic strategy of Apple emulation. After all, the sincerest form of flattery is imitation, as they say. I just don't get it.
Microsoft are becoming the gobots to Apple's transformers.
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Well, good luck.
I once brought down an entire cluster of exchange servers using a very old MIPS based mail server.. Took almost a week for the admins to clean up the mess.
All because the servers didn't know how to reject a mail message for being too large...
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OK I know millions of people use outlook hundreds of times a day BUT how many actually step outside of the core function email, calender, and contacts?
Theres a billion and 1 programs that do what people want for email, thunderbird included, and as long as people can read an email and set an appointment reminder I doubt they would even care.
Outlook is not a seller, hell it used to be a value added freebee
Has Elop become Nvidia's CEO recently?
So they are going to fork windows 8 3 ways then: intel, Arm and now Tegra? It was barely functional on Arm.
Acer is deserting Microsoft. Nokia is dead. Next up Invidia is tied to the sinking microsoft boat anchor. Google ascends to be the new mass market microsoft in the cloud and apple is still going be apple. As fake steve jobs put it, Apple is better off doing their best for the top 10% of the market than 90% of the bottom market share. Time to invest in Arm Stock and Apple stock. Google stock won't go up at all (all this will do is, in five years, it will make their P/E ratio reasonable and the stock not over valued).
RIM launched their first (and only) tablet without their premier email product. That worked out super-well for sales too.
Seriously, I didn't know the RT had no Outlook! It really was useless for business.
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Fuck you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
That excuse may be the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
We'll keep taking Microsoft's money to prop up our failing Tegra business.
just get the price down
As long as it's Microsoft writing them off I guess there might be money to be made. Go Balmer!
I'm writing on my Surface right now while traveling in Bolivia. I know it is fun to slam MS on everything they make and many will wet their pants when Apple comes out with a new digital tennis shoe that will record your steps and post it on Facebook someday. For me, the Surface RT beats out my ultrabook for portability and durability (beginning to get screen marks on the Samsung Series 9 from getting it mashed in the overhead bin of the planes), the battery lasts a long time, the type keyboard is great (not the touch version), and it has most of the programs I need for regular work.
Of course, I'm not designing with CAD on this...will do that when I get home. I'm not programming either...will do that when I get home. While traveling, this is better than a tablet and laptop for the basic needs that many have. I will look forward to Outlook because that is what I use at home as well as a hundred million other people. Get that basic tool included (which should have been in the first release) and this will be even better for us power-travelers that don't need power-laptops.
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You're conveniently forgetting that it also says "Outlook good"
(If not for that one mistake, the Magic 8-ball would have a perfect record.)
Who's working on the next generation landfill? The last land fill is full now.
We know there are several hundred thousand or million missing generation 1 Surface / RT's out there. No one has ever figured out where they went and Microsoft already publicly took close a billion dollar write down on them. Educational facilities are wisely resisting the dumping bait of the $199 Surface RT. That means all of those RT's were sent to a landfill. What I want to know is where Microsoft dumped their great embarassment (recycle center etc).
The Surface sales were bad enough. Now they're gonna get the Osborne effect too?
and locking out steam and other stores is antitrust also the censorship as well. At least give use easy side loading like android.
If not, I can imagine that the second generation will be even less successful than the first. The problem with surface, was that it ran Windows. RT is just crap, and full Windows 8 doesn't really work well on a tablet (or, come to think of it, a desktop).
Outlook is bloated, outdated, and tied to Windows. Email has moved onto cross platform cloud services, and can be used from any platform. Who wants to be locked into the past?
They're setting the bar awfully low - the current Surface inventory is rotting in a warehouse - hard to imagine anything being "more successful" - Microsoft ought to order some C4 plastic explosives and blow up the current inventory, since if a new generation comes out, the current ones will be even more worthless than they are now.
here's a idea. make the new "surface" a two piece device. ... oh wait .. i mean pocket.
like a piece of chocolate, you break it in half once you get it.
one part you connect via ethernet or wireless to your internet router.
the second part you tap on the first part (NFC).
the first piece now is your email server.
the second part you stick on your
surely you c an get a free "@mychocolatebar.com" from the cloud?
nevermind.
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Outlook, not so good...
Microsoft meets at least one of the definitions for insanity: Keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
Really. SO f-ing arrogant! "We weren't mistaken, and will double down."
How's all them ZuneHD's been doing?
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As I understand it, Windows RT has one advantage over Android: a tiling window manager. Windows RT has built-in support for "snapping" an app to a side of the screen, allowing one application to run in a "tablet" size space and another in a "phone" size space. This is useful for writing a document while referring to another document. Stock Android doesn't have this because the CDD allows Android applications to assume that the screen size won't change after installation. Samsung's custom version of Android has a multi-window mode, but this works only for those few applications that opt in to Samsung multi-window because it's not a core OS feature.
Surface RT is dead. At some point, Microsoft may revert back to the original plan of launching full-blown Windows for ARM, but this won't happen until Google releases Android for Desktops.
Meanwhile, MS has no problem if suckers like Nvidia wish to waste their own time and money working on a potential Surface RT 2- after all Nvidia has found near zero customers for its late, power-hungry, expensive and unremarkable Tegra 4. Microsoft tablets tend to be bricks, so there is plenty of room for the giant battery the Tegra 4 would prefer.
Meanwhile, the new Google Nexus 7 has a Qualcomm SoC that is faster than the Tegra 4, and half the price of anything Microsoft may sell in the near future. The Tegra 4 is stillborn, and so are any expensive tablets that appear in the future using the chip.
Anyway, Nvidia has put the terrible Tegra 4 fiasco behind them, and are currently prepping 'Logan', the Tegra 5. This part matches AMD's Temash and Kabini parts, having a full-blown PC desktop class GPU solution for the first time in ARM space. Sadly, Tegra 5 will be a poor match for the needs of the phones and tablets produced during its run.
Nvidia needs Google to produce Android for Desktops/laptops, so the Tegra 5 has a better place to go than just the latest Google Chromebook. Nvidia can also hope that Tegra 5 will see a proper Windows OS from Microsoft that runs on ARM.
Missing outlook is the reason why the tablet did not sold? IMO in order to derive such a conclusion, one really needs to be a high ranking manager not involved in any real work beside exchanging e-mails.
If WinRT got third-party desktop apps in the Surface 2 timeframe, that could make them a lot less silly. Not that his comment should be interpreted as meaning that; he's got a hardware partner and is quasi-obligated to make optimistic noises about how they'll do, even though he surely knows better.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Whew. Thanks, that was a good one.
Wait, they're serious?
HA HA HA HA HA!
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