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  1. Re:Windows is not disappearing anytime soon on Windows 8.1 May Restore Boot-To-Desktop, Start Button · · Score: 1

    ... I meant businesses will pick the former. Doh

    If you are stuck running applets use a tablet with a bluetooth monitor and keyboard doc rather than a bulky non touch PC screen running a tablet OS. The laptop will be the new tablet and you can take it on the go out of the office. Clouds are part of the progression to this and we see it already. How many corps still use Exchange? Sure about 2/3 do, but 1/3 is hosted on outlook.com as an example.

  2. Re:Windows is not disappearing anytime soon on Windows 8.1 May Restore Boot-To-Desktop, Start Button · · Score: 1

    Windows will be disappearing.

    After 2019 Windows 7 will be EOL. The corps have 2 choices then. Switch to futuristic tablets with bluetooth docking stations for keyboards and mice and host all their legacy IE 6 and win32 apps in a virtualized cloud/server somewhere and use a terminal program? Or continue the complexity with a nasty tablet interface? Businesses in 10 years will pick the later.

    Employees will be trained in Android and iOS by then on their own. Same argument existed for the mainframe and VMS too when the PC was new. Look what happened after the products appeared to be stable and enterprise ready? Yes tablets will be enterprise ready then. No active directory needed. That is for the cloud only running legacy products. Just turn them on and fire your I.T. department and save money. DONE.

    Statistics are showing this in small business switching to the cloud already. all that legacy odbc is something a cloud providoer can do in a 3rd world country. Look at the trend and not just the present. Windows is a legacy product yes, but that is all it is. It will fade and be treated as such once Windows 7 is EOL.

  3. Re:Windows 7 on Windows 8.1 May Restore Boot-To-Desktop, Start Button · · Score: 2

    At this date I only send documents that are .docx or .xlsx MS OpenXML. Good luck with that and hope you are not sending out resumes with that format. A hint. that table that looks fine will look like crap and be misformatted in my Word 2010 viewer. I will throw it out and go to another candidate.

  4. Re:No on Windows 8.1 May Restore Boot-To-Desktop, Start Button · · Score: 2

    Smart phones have more graphics power than an intel chipset sadly. Maybe the newest are fine but if you have a crappy GMA 915 or even the 2000 with an ATOM it will be inferior to my 2 year old Galaxy S 1!

    I think you underestimate how cheap the OEMs are when it comes to just satisfying the cpu mhz speed and ram but including bottom of the line components for everything. Most do not run dedicated graphics and the embedded is 10 years obsolete on 70% of all new pcs.

    A smartphone is a top of the line PC from 10 years ago. My Galaxy s1 is very similiar to my Windows2000 machine back then with 512 megs of ram, 700 mhz pentium III processor, and geforce2MX graphics.

  5. Great! on Windows 8.1 May Restore Boot-To-Desktop, Start Button · · Score: 1

    I can get to the desktop/IE faster than ever now so I can download Windows 7.

  6. Re:Microsoft's future on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 1

    This is because Balmer and Gates own more than 50% of the share of Microsoft. The only way Balmer is going to go is if he resigns, or if Bill Gates or Paul Allen sides with investors to fire him. Since he is a personal friend for many decades I doubt this is going to happen very easily.

    Trust me investors and the board have tried to fire him many times if you read the news. Unless the shareprice starts sliding down then Paul Allen and Bill Gates have no incentive to let him go. While the price has not bombed it is still constant so their wealth is not adversely effected yet.

  7. Re:Whats the alternative? on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 5, Informative

    Which is true ... if you do not read PDFs ... have javascript disabled ... or never go onto the net!

    I have seen the same corporate computers get infected over and over again by java exploits. They ran java 1.4.2 and only went on business websites. I looked at the logs. No porn, no downloading free screensavers, just doing the occasional Google image search and using corporate websites with infected ad servers.

    The sysadmin in all his good wisdom decided not to allow updates after May 2009! Gee viruses keep coming and coming. Can't imagine why?! You can get infected just by doing a Google Image search of OBL killed back in 2011. With javascript exploits you could get infected even without clicking the images! Goole would pass the XSS domain cross vulnerability and your browser would run whatever the hacker would want.

    Little girls searching for puppies got infected constantly this way. Adobe reader, flash, and even 0 day browser exploits all target Windows after they get through the browser security to run. These XP machines will be infected immediately. Hell slashdot tried to serve malware on my laptop though an infected ad a year or two ago too. If you ran unpatched flash, XP, without adblock you got 0wned.

  8. Re:it's happened before on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 1

    Not just hardware. What about software?

    This time in 2006 I thought what could Vista do that XP couldn't? I had a multi user, multitasking, managed, secure, operating system. What did it offer besides Aero? The corps still upgrade hardware but keep the same software as there is no need to change. This hurts Microsoft.

    Even if Windows 9 includes the start button again as evidence shows 8.1 has a boot to desktop feature, why should I leave Windows 7? What headache will this induce. After being burned with Vista and seeing Windows 8 first hand, if I do buy a new PC I will image it with Windows 7. I am familiar with it and see no reason to change. It is a well supported industry by then (there are still XP only apps being sold to this day!)

    By 2020 I will have to make a decision then on what I will do? Windows 9 or a tablet?

  9. Re:What numbers? on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 2

    Also the big proponents to upgrading where the very corps and MBAs who are insistent on XP today lol.

    If you wanted to keep word 95 and your boss/vendor upgraded to Word 97, by hell you upgraded to remain relevant! They pushed hard much like you want to appear cool with your college buddies iwth the latest igadget and macbook. You were hip and could show off in Starbucks in all your glory!

    Now you are irrelevent if you word 2013 resume looks like crap in Word 2003! You are irrelevant if you do not support IE 6. You are irrelevant if you are not a generation older technology wise. It is a complete -180 universe like an inverse where for consumers it is this way with iPhones.

    MS was very fucking cool in those days. Part of me wonders since Steve Jobs left if Apple will be uncool again in 10 years? Bill Gates run MS tight and it went to shit right after he left. He left during XP's haydays and it never returned to its former glory.

  10. Re:And... no big loss on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 1

    You know they said the same thing about IBM Mainframes and Decs running VMS.

    In 1983 "PCs are toys. Real men do word processing on the mainframes where you can collaborate and be managed by your I.T. department and can do real work! PCs are for hobbiests and the wannabe hipster crowds"

    Fastword to 2013 "Tablets are toys. Real men do excel/photoshop on the PC where you can collaborate and be managed by yout I.T. department with active directory and can do real work! IPads are for histpers"

    By 1993 the mainframe was dead the PC was the business standard and file servers started taking over where mainframes once managed things running Novel Netware.

    By 2023 tablets with screens and keyboards via bluetooth docking stations will be the norm. Any legacy win32 or IE 6/8 app (yes folks they wont die yet!) will be run in a terminal via a server on a cloud running virutalization just like in 1993 corps still run IBM mainframe software in terminals with Rally. With Windows 7 EOL this will force the remaining corps to ditch Windows forever and switch to iOS or Android and have an Indian cloud provideor manage the active directory and run their ancient shitty IE 8 and VB apps with Citrix or VMWare viewer in a browser plugin with the product running elsehwere.

    The PC is dying indeed and clouds running terminal software with virtualized ancient versions of IE and Windows will run everywhere. Where is Microsoft in this picture? My guess is nowhere unless things change very very fast!

  11. Re:Whats the alternative? on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 1

    Do you seriously think the number of people using Photoshop and/or Premiere is at all relevant to the entire PC-market?

    Yes. If not htose apps. Perhaps something by Siebel if you are into customer relationship management, or ACT, or GreatPlains if you do corporate accounting, or any other speciality apps. Everyone uses them in their respective fields. Even tech neophyte jobs like Teachers use them too for IEP reports and statistical modeling for class averages compared to other teachs with the district etc.

    Some are moving to the cloud. Some are not. Photoshop and Premiere are examples of vertical apps without anyone in marketing, advertising, or doing anything creative. So yes this is a big deal. Speaking of Adobe apps ... have you seen the shear amount of crap both install in the start menu let alone start screen? 24 tiles! Yuck. You have 4 pages of just adobe apps for 2 products you actually use. Another problem for Windows 8 on a surface with a tiny screen.

    These users hate Windows 8 too and will stick with Windows 7 if they can.

  12. Re:I will still stick with Windows 7 on ZDNet Proclaims "Windows: It's Over" · · Score: 1

    It works fine and my older PC now will probably continuing to run fine in 2.5 years from now when its out.

    The real question is why upgrade? That is the problem. I remember reading all the cool things about Vista this time in 2006 (before it was a bad review). I thought the screenshots were kind of cool, but then thought for a second "What does this do that XP does not?" I just wanted a secure, reliable, operating system that had file permissions, accounts, and multitasking. XP did these all just fine.

    Today Windows 7 continues to do this well. MS had to do something really worth while for me to say "That is freaking cool. Ahh too bad my 2010 era machine can't do that! ..." for me to even consider it. The start button is one thing but perhaps if I owned a Windows Phone and wanted to run the same apps I *might* consider it or some skydrive thing to share between my work/home PCs. Congrats MS you have matured much like cars. Now we only upgrade when the wheels fall out or when we hit a different economic class and want a shiny new toy with new bells. But necessity. It is not once what it is.

  13. Re:Java is not slow for webscale on Ask Slashdot: Building a Web App Scalable To Hundreds of Thousand of Users? · · Score: 1

    In a web app the bottleneck is the I/O and latency speed of your SQL Database. Not the execution speed hogging the CPU.

    If this were an issue then how did PHP become so popular? Unlike Java is it is fully interpreted with the exception of some mods running in the web server engine.

    For this you need a platform that has tons of mods and apis to build upon, frameworks, and great interconnectivity to RDBMS and NoSQL engines, and awesome threading support. While webapps are not CPU bound compared to graphics rendering they are highly threaded where you can have well into the thousands different threads and processes all using small tiny bursts of CPU activity all at different times.

    Thus, Linux is insanely popular for this reason as you can move things to other servers easily like hits in a cluster or switch and Java is an excellent enterprise language to do something big and expandable for that reason. Maybe a little much for something small but works for something big. If you know anything about high traffic you would no your performance is not on the cpu at 100% but rather the load on the machine.

  14. Re:Cannot evolve on AMD Says There Will Be No DirectX 12 — Ever · · Score: 0

    Yeah only ran on Vista so it was never adopted as users to this very day still cling to XP as the worlds most popular OS until last year.

    DirectX 12 will never come to be because of 95% of us who hate METRO/Windows 8 and will never upgrade. Windows 7 will be here still for a very long time and making a Windows Blue exclusive is stupid as all 7 users would use it.

  15. Re:They stopped selling working computers. on Why PC Sales Are Declining · · Score: 1

    The Best Buy told me Microsoft came in and destroyed all copies of Office 2010 and Windows 7 in the trash compactor. I HAD to use the blinding white and awful UI of Office 2013 whether I like to or not.

    I had to order Office 2010 online. Amazing! But Microsoft wont allow them to sell any Windows 7 units PERIOD. They want EVERYONE to use METRO. It is pissing me off and these XP users wont leave as a result. I personally do not blame them.

  16. Re:They stopped selling working computers. on Why PC Sales Are Declining · · Score: 1

    You can buy Windows 7 for more money on OEM websites. Microsoft refuses to allow retailers to offer them to you. They want you to get trained on how to use Windows Phone instead.

    Or build your own or buy one with a Windows 8 Pro license. You can download and use the keys for Windows 7.

  17. Re:Ban the Space Heater on Why PC Sales Are Declining · · Score: 1

    With XP that takes 4 minutes to boot up and that shiny ugly METRO box, I think most users will just stick with XP instead.

    It works! I know I wont upgrade until the start button is back. Windows 7 here for life! XP users seem very content and if you go to www.wired.com you can see the rage and anger by these XP users. Maybe they are right?

  18. I was planning to upgrade in 2015 on Why PC Sales Are Declining · · Score: 0

    That is the date I will obsolete this box I am typing on.

    But with no start button NO DEAL. It is not that my computer is good enough, but rather I want to stay current and prefer to have things go down because of decommissioning rather than break when I have something due.

    Yes many go to the store folks and see Windows 8 and shake their head and think, maybe my XP box is just fine? I do not want an IPAD. I want a PC!

  19. Re:Compatible with Windows 7? on Intel Unveils New Atom and Xeon Processors and Future Rack Scale Architecture · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a good chore for a foss project:

    Build a custom HAL to be invoked by NTLDR that makes virtual surrogates for win7 to be happy with at kernel init, then proper kernel drivers after that.

    Could probably fork and share code with the ReactOS project, actually.

    Sounds like a huge undertaking. The PCI bus and architecture is so finely ingrained in the Windows 7 kernel that I do not know if it would be easy or even possible to do?

    I guess the move to share the same kernel with Windows Phone is what MS had to do to rid the old code.

  20. Re:My theory on Windows 8 Killing PC Sales · · Score: 1

    Google Docs and Gmail are not IE 8

    LOL, we have a few applications that folks use that require IE6 (seriously) and are still considered to be business critical. Trust me, I am looking forward to this transition with eager anticipation.

    *sips coffee*

    It gets better!

    Google's policy is no browser 2 versions old. This means IE 9 are dropping support in a few months when Windows Blue with IE 11 comes out and so is Firefox Extended Release which is stuck at 17 until next year. IE 9 is just now starting to get some support and it is being phased out probably in October for IE10/11 only. Hope your XP systems are gone by that date. Grins

    On the upside perhaps its time to get rid of crappy browsers? Googe is so insistent to push Chrome.

  21. Re: Compatible with Windows 7? on Intel Unveils New Atom and Xeon Processors and Future Rack Scale Architecture · · Score: 2

    Only Windows 7 has IE 8.

    That is a must for my job if I get a netbook and Windows 8 comes with IE 10 so that is a no go. Windows 7 support is a must for me

  22. Re:Win8 Experience on Windows 8 Killing PC Sales · · Score: 1

    The problem is the anti-skuemorphism crowd in the graphics art department more than Sinofsky. But he convinced Balmer the start menu had to go as our goal was to train people to get used to our phones that they do not want. Not servicing the customer

  23. Re:Not selling Office 2010 UGH on Windows 8 Killing PC Sales · · Score: 1

    I spoke to someone at BustBuy as I needed a **paid* version of office and they told me Microsoft came in ordered them to destroy all copies of Windows 7 and Office 2010 with the trash compatctor! Not waited but actually physically destroyed anyone wanting a non ugly bright white ribbon or Metro UI!?

    I paid an inflated price as Aamzon and NewEgg or greedy bastards and raising the prices as supply becomes more limited. I tried oFfice 2013 and it was so horrible it was well worth the extra cash. Why what did MS do so wrong?

    It is plain bad with no UI testing. Just anti skuemorphism elitests who design the graphics in management I swear. It took over a week to finally get a non pirated version of Office 2010.

    I now join with XP loyalists who fear change. MS knows they have crap and are frankly doing everything in their power not take your money to force feed new ways of doing thing fed by the elitists who hate deisgn that worked well previously in order to differentiate from Apple.

  24. Re:My theory on Windows 8 Killing PC Sales · · Score: 1

    corporate IT is so tied to Microsoft

    I work for a multinational company, very structured, AMAZING levels of bureaucracy and I thought we were joined at the hip, neck and everywhere else to Microsoft products - yet I was amazed to hear they are moving this company (200k+ employees) over to Gmail for emails and contacts as well as a bunch of other things. Until I heard that, I would have bet body parts to say that they would never move off their current technology.

    Having said that, we are still on XP rather than having skipped Vista to Win 7.

    YA! They do know that Google Docs and Gmail are not IE 8 compatible right? Google shoot themselves in the foot and brought in Office 365 as a result of this. I hope you do not have critical business intranet apps or can upgrade at the same time as XP's IE is not up to date enough

  25. Compatible with Windows 7? on Intel Unveils New Atom and Xeon Processors and Future Rack Scale Architecture · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If not then I am not interested.

    Rumor has it the new Atoms with Clovertail are not Windows 7 compatible. As Microsoft wants us to be testers first rather than customers so they can sell more phones as we get used to the UI.