I agree Microsoft has no taste and I was just starting to warm up to them for the first time with Windows 7, IE 9, and Office 2010. They actually didn't suck (well IE 9 is ok and not great, but sooo much of a drastic improvement over earlier versions and is usable if your boss wont let you use any other browser) for the first time. I left Linux as I did not like gnome-shell in 2011.
I have a VM of CentOS somewhere with Gnome 2.x but its days are numbered and I realized Vista is gone now and so is XP, IE 6, and Office 2k. As soon as I went back and lost fans and mod points as I was an anti MS pro linux zealot on here.
MS just had to do something so stupid. Windows 8 could have been a success with a reformed Metro that integrated with Aero, the win 7 taskbar, small start screen/menu, that builds on 7 and can enable multitasking at the user level much greater than any iOS or Android tablet. Not make it look EGA 16 colors, remove lines, depth, shadows, so Office 2013 ribbon is blind white and you can't tell where your document ends and where the ribbon begins etc.
No R&D and the decision to get rid of the start menu was mention on www.neowin.net. Essentially the former Windows Vp (the one who was fired) told Balmer that we need to force users to get used to Metro to sell more phones the start button was the obstacle . so they threw the golden goose under the bus to be more cool to get back at Apple as we would be used to since apparently we all hate change. No user testing, no R&D, nothing, just rushed.
Worse you can write one iOS or Android app and it will run across the phone or tablet perfectly. Not Windows 8/RT/Windows 8 mobile. You need to rewrite your app 3x! wtf.... enough ranting. I believe tablets are here to stay and the PC will go niche ala the mainframe in the next 10 years. In 2023 I predict we will all run Android or iOS or maybe just maybe Windows at work if they can get their act together and run our legacy XP/IE6 apps in a citrix cloud run who knows where. We will still have our monitors and keyboards via docking station and I.T. will be extinct. We will ahve cloud email, cloud active directory if at all, cloud legacy terminal apps in vmware or Citrix, maybe cloud Cisco routing with just a big VPN box with a plug. The PC is expensive to support and software licensing is going up not down. I read 10 years ago each PC costs $12,000 per employee in I.T. and software costs. I am sure that number is closer to $15,000 today! No wonder they do not want to leave XP. Enough! Where is my return on investment? We are a insurance, banking, hospital, restaurant, not an I.T. company etc.
I dunno what MS will do next but I am leaving I.T. to become a teacher. Sadly it pays more than what I have been getting these past 3 years in the great recession and I see no future when everyone doesn't want to pay and tablets will take over. Shit the new haswell intel cpus that just came out are soldered on to the boards. How can you make money on your shop servicing those? Just throw out is the new norm sigh.
The way to fix that, and I hope the XP switch forces this, is that the company culture changes back to one with IT planning and lots of IT workers to do that planning.
Well I am a fan of your comments and agree with you on most things. However, management for all my clients does not and I am leaving the I.T. field. It is a cost that adds no value. In the past I.T. did process engineering work to save money and automate things. Today mechanical engineers do that. I.T. is outsourced to the lowest bidder and is now moving to the cloud.
The newer companies that are growing do not have an I.T. department at all period! All cloud, and they view I.T. like having an electrical department. Why have that when they just pay a bill each month to the electrical company. Do we need a Chief Electrician Officer? No, maybe in the 1880s yes but not today.
MBA types buy the software and dictate to India you shall support this MAKE IT HAPPEN. I.T. does not have any voice. It wont change either as many have seen their shareprices go up and the cost accountants get their bonses this way.
As a reference my last client had 4 different outsources and just 3 people supporting 1100 users. Want to test a new SCCM image? Nope our TCS does that in Inda. Hey my Outlook is not working? Call Microsoft.com and put in a ticket for office 365 cloud support. Lets go check out networking... ooh another outsourcer can't touch them. Just go back to putting out those fires billly etc.
This is accelerating too and the MBA thought it we are in the banking, food, retail, construction, whatever industry, not the computer industry. Give it to a specialist instead and specialize on your comparative strengths (economic terms). In 10 years from now I envision we will all have tablets with attached docking stations for screens and keyboard with cloud email, cloud Active Directory management, cloud cisco routing with just a big VPN box where the routing is done in Inda, cloud phone with that same big VPN box to elsewhere, and outsourced African/Indian helpdesk to route your tickets. Where does that leave us? Nowhere.
Anyway slightly offtopic but you can't change company culture as the big boys are the ones driving this and it is an industry phenomena to cut costs. The 1990s were very unique time in history much like steam and electricy were int he 19th century, yet it is matured and technology is rapidly maturing too. XP usage is just the symptom
Once something becomes the pillar that everything rests upon its impossible to remove. Witness XP and IE 6.? One 1/4 of corps still have not upgraded to the all so cutting edge 4 year old IE 8 and windows 7! Those that have upgraded still have apps like Dell EMS that cant run on anything newer. IE 10 is considered broken at work even though its the first W3C version.
Python 3 is just that. Broken! Python 2.7x is the standard now and why leave since it works fine? Welcome to the lgacy club! You can have a seat there next to Cobol andXP?
The only reason IE 6 support is dying is because MS is EOLing it. Can the python foundation exert this much conrtol? Too many apps and apis are dependent on it amd its old quirks are hard coded into apps.
Dick Cheney flunked out of Harvard and made a few bucks above minimum wage in his late 20s fixing freaking telephone polls.
Just because you were born rich doesn't mean you stay rich. Every rich person needed to prove him or herself. I can tell this is a troll because no one should earn just by being born.
> Then putting my head to shame I went as low as $13/hr. Bang! Got hired!
Dude, I was making $13 an hour 12 years ago doing fucking data entry!
You're right about not being worth $70k a year these days. It's a brutal market, an employer's market. The wages are in a race to the bottom. The only debate here is the reason why - and I can tell you it's NOT because of anything domestic IT workers did!
It beats working at McDonalds. There is no time to debate if you are down on your luck. Only time to work and many making $13/hr is the new norm. You are right it is not 12 years ago. 12 years ago was not the norm either remember? It does not take a genius to type shit in a computer. That can be done for minimum wage.
So we have one extreme down today and 12 years ago we had the opposite extreme, where the real value should be in the middle if logic serves. I think it is the economy, health care costs, taxes, lawyers being sue happy, and H1B1 are a tiny part of it. No one wants to be poor but if your competition is happy to live at that wage you need to match it.
It is true employers can not find qualified people who are experts and the wages keep going up for that. So if you start low in time it will go up much faster than 12 years ago.
Lower your salary and you will get hired. Yes it will pay shit and you will need a 2nd job for a year or two but that is what you need to do.
The $13.50 or all outsourcers and temp agencies. Start there, volunteer, do some temp projects like Windows XP to Windows 7 migrations where you can learn and get a reference or two. It will take a few years.
Most who ask for the world know for $13/hr they will not get all of it. Many will use that for 6 months to see how you do and them move you up to $18/hr afterwards. They can do so because they can and after you show them you are well worth that extra money and they are afraid you will quit on them.
H1B1 outsourcing companies make more upfront. Yes their employers make shit but the company takes the other 40%!
Call me a jackass all you want. The fact is I am the one with the job.
I am not saying this to be insulting but I could not live with myself being someone who is a loser which is what I was when I turned down work. Temp agencies want someone who can do very basic things but you need to let them know ahead of time what you can do. Put them on your resume and get some contacts. Your bestbuy can even help at Geeksquad if you are desperate. Have you went to the local Computer Repair shops in your area? Have you talked to the owners and explain you just want to prove yourself and will be happy just to have a job? Did you pass the A+ exam?
I did 100% of the above. I am also quiting the I.T. field and looking at teaching because I am worth mroe than $13/hr. Just perhaps to a different employer doing something else. In alaska (do not live there now) you can substitute teach and make $140 a day with a degree. There are jobs out there unless you are in Detroit. They suck and pay not that much. You need to fill in that gap on your resume Hedwards anyway possible.
So a talk to a copier/computer repair shop guy is how to get in since HR will filter your resume out. After 1 year quit, After a 2nd year in a corp you will have the experience and now references to make a middle class salary. Or do something else?
A rootkit in a non signed way is impossible on UEFI unless you disable it by default.
However if it is signed and the AV software does not have the access to it then you are fucked. It is an OS reinstall. Worse if it uses the keys to reimage the rom then it is bricked.
I used to want to get a job in IT, but all the entry level positions required 5 years or more of experience on top of the certifications, and that was just for jobs where they were having you read a support script.
I'm sure once you're in it's a lot easier, but I don't recall seeing a single opening back then where I could apply, not a single one. Ultimately, I gave up and got work in a different sector where it wasn't quite as bad, but entry level does not mean 5 years of experience, it means at most 1 year.
Well if you do not have 5 years experience you are not competent. You are entry level and when I lowered my salary to $13.50/hr employers jumped all over me! I am going to work as a bartender and wait some tables too to make up for this:-(
But, the days of making $35,000 with 0 experience are over. What makes you so special you feel entitled to all that HUGE amount of money? YOu need to prove yourself. The good news is after I accepted that I am getting more calls for jobs offering more. That is not the fault of H1B1 visas my friend.
This is just reality pre 1999 for every single profession out there. Even lawyers start out as secretaries and assistants for the first 3-5 years making $30,000 a year before getting that $60,000 job. Making $200,000 a year needs a very thorough and proven track record and those are the ones you hear about on TV. Not Susan who just graduated and only knows theory and never even worked on a case before?!
Not to sound dickish, but if you were willing to accept that position you would not be unemployed.
Unless of course they wanted to pay you $32,000 a year or something so absurdly silly. I had to lower my standards, yet I realize I am not in a position to demand what I once was worth when so many are out of work and were happy to take that fake programmer job because the repo man is looking for his car, wife ready to leave, and house 1 month from being taken away!
I am planning to leave the I.T. industry anyway as I see by 2020 we will all be using tablets with cloud exchange, cloud hosted proprietary apps, cloud Active Directory over VPN, with attached monitors and keyboards. Explain why business needs an I.T. department?
After all they do not have a plumbing or electrical department? They just pay a bill.
I.T. is dying and is so 20th century. I hope I am wrong but we are seen as cost drainers who do not add any value to the bottom line. Engineers know do business processing stuff. So I am becoming a teacher instead. You can't outsource that.
Reasonable should be no less than 50% ABOVE the median income of the area they are getting hired to work in. If the companies really can't get workers in that area, then they should be willing to pay more.
You find me a job, ANY JOB, where they lack qualified applicants and I can show you a job where they don't pay enough.
Problem with that argument is then they can just outsource to India where they can just pay INdian wages and get a nice tax tax cut doing so as money that stays there is not seen by the IRS.
If you start messing with this it will only encourage more outsourcing.
I have been in your boat my friend and this is not an attempt at a flamebait.
I accepted near poverty wages as no one would talk to me when I demanded $20 an hour! Then I lowered to $18/hr. Got 1 interview. Lowered it to $15/hr got 6 interviews! Then putting my head to shame I went as low as $13/hr. Bang! Got hired!
You are not worth $70,000 a year. If you were you would not have typed this and would be working right? So you went to school and had no jump? Welcome to the fucking real world my friend where 40% do not get jobs in their field.
So work 2 jobs. Go wait tables? Go sell shit at Best Buy when you are not making $13 an hour. Money with degrees only make $13/hr or $26,000 a year starting out?! No you did not misread that. Sorry buddy but, without experience no one is going to talk to you.
Go work, get your references, join a temp agency so you can maximize the amount of references you obtain so you can make that $70,000 some day. My brother makes $130,000 a year and has an MBA. How much did he make as a young kid fresh out of school at the same company? Only $50,000 as a systems analysis excel jockey. He had to earn that.
Whining about Indians and H1b1s folks will not change the situation. You have to be worth that $70,000 in an ROI and out of school you wont get that. It takes years. Sorry slashdotters but that is the hard truth and why the corps are really whining about qualified workers. Not wages, but for $70,000 a year you should as hell have many years experience.
So get to work gaining them. Other slashdotters reading this who make $70,0000 will repeat what I am saying.
And who uses the "consulting companies"? Your local company. They use these "consulting companies" for their IT needs.
And in the meantime they bitch and moan about the lack of local talent.
Listen folks: business people are two faced liars. Anyone who defends them is the same.
I know people who still think their house should be worth 1.5 million because that is what they used to sell for in 2007.
What?! It has 2 acres. That should be worth $500,000 an acre right!?
But they fail to see the reality of not everyone is a doctor, CEO, or lawyer who is willing to pay that since the banks want 20% down now for jumbo mortgages and those reading this comment probably can not afford that except for 2% of the readers.
When you pay X for Y time your brain gets hardwired to figure that is how much X should be worth. Same iwth gas prices. Now we do not care that they are over $3.00/gallon. In 2001 we would be pissing our pants and cutting out expenses.
The HR robots and beancounters got used to cheap in-disposable labor for 7 years where 4 applicants applied per 1 job! Maybe 10 if you count the.com pop since 2001? So $39,000 a year for a entry level JR program/LAN admin is considered expensive. No one should pay more than $55,000 for an I.T job because we have never offered that in the history we worked here.
Now the ball is returning back to the employee in negotiations. In Florida it is still an employers job market. I was offiered $13.50/hr to administrator MS Exchange on a Lan admin level?! They wanted 5 years experience and up to date Microsoft credentials on top of that. That is how much an Indian H1B1 made so why pay more??
No one is buying windows 8 machines that owns any previous windows computer
Except to replace a PC that currently runs an operating system that will stop receiving security patches a year from now.
Most XP users if they have not left for now have no plans to do so in 2014 either. They have AV software so why worry? And will keep XP for the next 13 years afterwards until the day the power supply goes kapoof.
So you are more interested in purchasing something malware writters who now know the keys to sign their malware as a rootkit making it impossible to remove?
Bad? Part of the UEFI barrier for other OS's has just been Open Sourced.
And there was much rejoicing.
Or a piece of malware will now sign itself and change the keys making it impossible to remove. It would be better totally unlocked otherwise. If the keys were in ROM where they could not be rewritten then yes there will be much rejoicing but who is to say the malware wont reimage itself in the UEFI and put another set of keys maybe randomly generated on the host?
Thats because most sites sniff useragents and serve browser specific code. This move will break apps that sniff android or Chrome and only serve -webkit specific CSs
Where I am from there is only one standard. It is what the user uses that previously worked fine. If IE 6 works for Dell EMS then IE 6 is the standard and IE 10/Chrome break it according to my users and therefore are the broken ones. The browser is never blamed. And mentioning W3C is behind their comprehension.
That is the point. Whenever someone uses something it is not the defecto standard and if it tries to do things the right way in future releases the user will consider that one broken so in the case of dropping -webkit in Android/Chrome for -Blink would be disastrous and make a lot of pissed off users or confused webdevelopers if 2 -webkit CSS deliver different results. Then the user will always blame the I.T. department and website administrators.
Jquery 2.0 supports all modern as in less than 2 current releases old. I hate to bring to you but, Firefox 3.6 is not modern. It is old, buggy, insecure, archaic, and now over 2 years old and should be dropped. Its marketshare is beginning to match IE 6 and is now below IE 7. I was a big firefox fan but even started playing with IE 8 at the beginning of 2011 as Firefox 3.6 was just terrible and felt more like old IE than its phoenix beginnings.
But that has changed and it is a much improved browser.
I use ESR Firefox which is based off of 17 and that is considered current.
In addition JQuery 1.9 is almost done and is built exactly for older browsers with some back-ported features.
""We are not browsing a vendor-agnostic web. IE6 simply had shitty enough CSS that, when IE7/8 corrected it, the bandwagon pointed at ACID3 and declared this the promised land of standards-compliance, ignoring that this is just a calm between storms. Mark my words, "Best viewed in" is returning, and it will be just as bad as you remember. You'll know it finally happens when jQuery gets fed up with an engine and takes sides."
You mean how JQuery 2.0 wont support IE 8?
That I am in favor of. The corps will whine and freak out how trajic it is to not use a 4 year old browser that thinks xhtml means emulate quirky HTML IE 5.5, but I am in favor of this on the desktop.... on the cell phone end. Yes Windows Phone wont browse half the websites! They see mobile and feed -webkit crap sheets to it that it doesn't understand and not W3C HTML 5/CSS 3. After all webkit owns 95% of the mobile market so why bother targeting it? But IE 6... that thing sucks because its sooo proprietary yadda yadda.
If we all switch to tablets in 10 years we might be in for some trouble if webkit becomes too dominate.
I hope they don't keep -webkit-* enabled forever. The CSSWG agreement doesn't say anything about phasing out existing prefixed properties, but keeping them around with outdated syntax/behavior doesn't seem like a good idea. It was never good practice to use a prefixed property without its unprefixed version. So if removing prefixed properties breaks some pages, that means they were broken in the first place.
You must be new here:-)
Things stay freaking forever in the industry once it someone or a corporation is dependent on something. IE 6 and XP is still being used with its users considering an open standard broken because it breaks and broken standard to them which is open. Logic is backwards but CMS never get replaced, sites stay, and users whine and blame YOU if something doesn't work. Never the product.
This is a classic lesson on why standards are so important and why going proprietary is bad. Not a closed vs open debate more than a standard one. Stuff never goes away even if it is broken.
My fear now is Chrome is the new IE 6 of this decade.
With things changing and mobile users monopolized on it this will get confusing as much as different versions of IE last decade which is why the corps all standardized on IE 6.
Mobile sites will go through hell next and it might hurt Android and help IOS if the -webkit extension is removed or if W3C changes a standard that is different from the -webkit one. Look up IE boxmodel? This caused hell as IE 6 was ahead in this arena and W3C changed it and Firefox followed the other box model for CSS layout leaving IE 6 only webapps that still are in to this day.
Many CMS are never updated as beancounters consider them a cost so they will still output the proprietary -webkit code even if it is slated to be finalized by the W3C. Yuck.
Why not just make the choice of rendering engine user configurable?
Yeah, that will work real well with clueless (l)users complaining why a site wont work to developers.
What engine are you using IE, what version, IE, what setting, IE hey you are going to fix this or what!
At least now you tell them about IE for the version. Or the logs will report it. Imagine if Firefox emulating trident IE 8 displayed different than IE 8, but was recorded as IE 8 in the logs?
The real question is will the corps and users want to keep old versions of Chrome around for their web apps and sites?
Many with -webkit CSS extensions wont work if Chrome gets rid of them. If Google calls it -webkit then we will have 2 different versions and web developers will be confused and not know which is which when users report a site looks funny.
The bios is manufactored, programmed, designed, and all made in China.
I would not be surprised if they have a backdoor to spy or be disabled. We know all our cell phones have this and can record everything with a secret code and the US government is in on that one. It has been posted on slashdot before as they are perfect spy devices for any citizen. It makes sense China would want the same.
Even the new Lenovo assembled PCs in the US are probably made in China. WIth firmware on all our weapons and planes China would love to disable our whole military in a blink of an eye if something like a conflict in Korea ever happened. The power is too incredible to ignore and CEOs to eager to comply to meet shareholder expectations and get their bonus.
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I agree Microsoft has no taste and I was just starting to warm up to them for the first time with Windows 7, IE 9, and Office 2010. They actually didn't suck (well IE 9 is ok and not great, but sooo much of a drastic improvement over earlier versions and is usable if your boss wont let you use any other browser) for the first time. I left Linux as I did not like gnome-shell in 2011.
I have a VM of CentOS somewhere with Gnome 2.x but its days are numbered and I realized Vista is gone now and so is XP, IE 6, and Office 2k. As soon as I went back and lost fans and mod points as I was an anti MS pro linux zealot on here.
MS just had to do something so stupid. Windows 8 could have been a success with a reformed Metro that integrated with Aero, the win 7 taskbar, small start screen/menu, that builds on 7 and can enable multitasking at the user level much greater than any iOS or Android tablet. Not make it look EGA 16 colors, remove lines, depth, shadows, so Office 2013 ribbon is blind white and you can't tell where your document ends and where the ribbon begins etc.
No R&D and the decision to get rid of the start menu was mention on www.neowin.net. Essentially the former Windows Vp (the one who was fired) told Balmer that we need to force users to get used to Metro to sell more phones the start button was the obstacle . so they threw the golden goose under the bus to be more cool to get back at Apple as we would be used to since apparently we all hate change. No user testing, no R&D, nothing, just rushed.
Worse you can write one iOS or Android app and it will run across the phone or tablet perfectly. Not Windows 8/RT/Windows 8 mobile. You need to rewrite your app 3x! wtf. ... enough ranting. I believe tablets are here to stay and the PC will go niche ala the mainframe in the next 10 years. In 2023 I predict we will all run Android or iOS or maybe just maybe Windows at work if they can get their act together and run our legacy XP/IE6 apps in a citrix cloud run who knows where. We will still have our monitors and keyboards via docking station and I.T. will be extinct. We will ahve cloud email, cloud active directory if at all, cloud legacy terminal apps in vmware or Citrix, maybe cloud Cisco routing with just a big VPN box with a plug. The PC is expensive to support and software licensing is going up not down. I read 10 years ago each PC costs $12,000 per employee in I.T. and software costs. I am sure that number is closer to $15,000 today! No wonder they do not want to leave XP. Enough! Where is my return on investment? We are a insurance, banking, hospital, restaurant, not an I.T. company etc.
I dunno what MS will do next but I am leaving I.T. to become a teacher. Sadly it pays more than what I have been getting these past 3 years in the great recession and I see no future when everyone doesn't want to pay and tablets will take over. Shit the new haswell intel cpus that just came out are soldered on to the boards. How can you make money on your shop servicing those? Just throw out is the new norm sigh.
The way to fix that, and I hope the XP switch forces this, is that the company culture changes back to one with IT planning and lots of IT workers to do that planning.
Well I am a fan of your comments and agree with you on most things. However, management for all my clients does not and I am leaving the I.T. field. It is a cost that adds no value. In the past I.T. did process engineering work to save money and automate things. Today mechanical engineers do that. I.T. is outsourced to the lowest bidder and is now moving to the cloud.
The newer companies that are growing do not have an I.T. department at all period! All cloud, and they view I.T. like having an electrical department. Why have that when they just pay a bill each month to the electrical company. Do we need a Chief Electrician Officer? No, maybe in the 1880s yes but not today.
MBA types buy the software and dictate to India you shall support this MAKE IT HAPPEN. I.T. does not have any voice. It wont change either as many have seen their shareprices go up and the cost accountants get their bonses this way.
As a reference my last client had 4 different outsources and just 3 people supporting 1100 users. Want to test a new SCCM image? Nope our TCS does that in Inda. Hey my Outlook is not working? Call Microsoft.com and put in a ticket for office 365 cloud support. Lets go check out networking ... ooh another outsourcer can't touch them. Just go back to putting out those fires billly etc.
This is accelerating too and the MBA thought it we are in the banking, food, retail, construction, whatever industry, not the computer industry. Give it to a specialist instead and specialize on your comparative strengths (economic terms). In 10 years from now I envision we will all have tablets with attached docking stations for screens and keyboard with cloud email, cloud Active Directory management, cloud cisco routing with just a big VPN box where the routing is done in Inda, cloud phone with that same big VPN box to elsewhere, and outsourced African/Indian helpdesk to route your tickets. Where does that leave us? Nowhere.
Anyway slightly offtopic but you can't change company culture as the big boys are the ones driving this and it is an industry phenomena to cut costs. The 1990s were very unique time in history much like steam and electricy were int he 19th century, yet it is matured and technology is rapidly maturing too. XP usage is just the symptom
Once something becomes the pillar that everything rests upon its impossible to remove. Witness XP and IE 6.? One 1/4 of corps still have not upgraded to the all so cutting edge 4 year old IE 8 and windows 7! Those that have upgraded still have apps like Dell EMS that cant run on anything newer. IE 10 is considered broken at work even though its the first W3C version.
Python 3 is just that. Broken! Python 2.7x is the standard now and why leave since it works fine? Welcome to the lgacy club! You can have a seat there next to Cobol andXP?
The only reason IE 6 support is dying is because MS is EOLing it. Can the python foundation exert this much conrtol? Too many apps and apis are dependent on it amd its old quirks are hard coded into apps.
Dick Cheney flunked out of Harvard and made a few bucks above minimum wage in his late 20s fixing freaking telephone polls.
Just because you were born rich doesn't mean you stay rich. Every rich person needed to prove him or herself. I can tell this is a troll because no one should earn just by being born.
> Then putting my head to shame I went as low as $13/hr. Bang! Got hired!
Dude, I was making $13 an hour 12 years ago doing fucking data entry!
You're right about not being worth $70k a year these days. It's a brutal market, an employer's market. The wages are in a race to the bottom. The only debate here is the reason why - and I can tell you it's NOT because of anything domestic IT workers did!
It beats working at McDonalds. There is no time to debate if you are down on your luck. Only time to work and many making $13/hr is the new norm. You are right it is not 12 years ago. 12 years ago was not the norm either remember? It does not take a genius to type shit in a computer. That can be done for minimum wage.
So we have one extreme down today and 12 years ago we had the opposite extreme, where the real value should be in the middle if logic serves. I think it is the economy, health care costs, taxes, lawyers being sue happy, and H1B1 are a tiny part of it. No one wants to be poor but if your competition is happy to live at that wage you need to match it.
It is true employers can not find qualified people who are experts and the wages keep going up for that. So if you start low in time it will go up much faster than 12 years ago.
Lower your salary and you will get hired. Yes it will pay shit and you will need a 2nd job for a year or two but that is what you need to do.
The $13.50 or all outsourcers and temp agencies. Start there, volunteer, do some temp projects like Windows XP to Windows 7 migrations where you can learn and get a reference or two. It will take a few years.
Most who ask for the world know for $13/hr they will not get all of it. Many will use that for 6 months to see how you do and them move you up to $18/hr afterwards. They can do so because they can and after you show them you are well worth that extra money and they are afraid you will quit on them.
H1B1 outsourcing companies make more upfront. Yes their employers make shit but the company takes the other 40%!
Call me a jackass all you want. The fact is I am the one with the job.
I am not saying this to be insulting but I could not live with myself being someone who is a loser which is what I was when I turned down work. Temp agencies want someone who can do very basic things but you need to let them know ahead of time what you can do. Put them on your resume and get some contacts. Your bestbuy can even help at Geeksquad if you are desperate. Have you went to the local Computer Repair shops in your area? Have you talked to the owners and explain you just want to prove yourself and will be happy just to have a job? Did you pass the A+ exam?
I did 100% of the above. I am also quiting the I.T. field and looking at teaching because I am worth mroe than $13/hr. Just perhaps to a different employer doing something else. In alaska (do not live there now) you can substitute teach and make $140 a day with a degree. There are jobs out there unless you are in Detroit. They suck and pay not that much. You need to fill in that gap on your resume Hedwards anyway possible.
So a talk to a copier/computer repair shop guy is how to get in since HR will filter your resume out. After 1 year quit, After a 2nd year in a corp you will have the experience and now references to make a middle class salary. Or do something else?
A rootkit in a non signed way is impossible on UEFI unless you disable it by default.
However if it is signed and the AV software does not have the access to it then you are fucked. It is an OS reinstall. Worse if it uses the keys to reimage the rom then it is bricked.
I used to want to get a job in IT, but all the entry level positions required 5 years or more of experience on top of the certifications, and that was just for jobs where they were having you read a support script.
I'm sure once you're in it's a lot easier, but I don't recall seeing a single opening back then where I could apply, not a single one. Ultimately, I gave up and got work in a different sector where it wasn't quite as bad, but entry level does not mean 5 years of experience, it means at most 1 year.
Well if you do not have 5 years experience you are not competent. You are entry level and when I lowered my salary to $13.50/hr employers jumped all over me! I am going to work as a bartender and wait some tables too to make up for this :-(
But, the days of making $35,000 with 0 experience are over. What makes you so special you feel entitled to all that HUGE amount of money? YOu need to prove yourself. The good news is after I accepted that I am getting more calls for jobs offering more. That is not the fault of H1B1 visas my friend.
This is just reality pre 1999 for every single profession out there. Even lawyers start out as secretaries and assistants for the first 3-5 years making $30,000 a year before getting that $60,000 job. Making $200,000 a year needs a very thorough and proven track record and those are the ones you hear about on TV. Not Susan who just graduated and only knows theory and never even worked on a case before?!
Not to sound dickish, but if you were willing to accept that position you would not be unemployed.
Unless of course they wanted to pay you $32,000 a year or something so absurdly silly. I had to lower my standards, yet I realize I am not in a position to demand what I once was worth when so many are out of work and were happy to take that fake programmer job because the repo man is looking for his car, wife ready to leave, and house 1 month from being taken away!
I am planning to leave the I.T. industry anyway as I see by 2020 we will all be using tablets with cloud exchange, cloud hosted proprietary apps, cloud Active Directory over VPN, with attached monitors and keyboards. Explain why business needs an I.T. department?
After all they do not have a plumbing or electrical department? They just pay a bill.
I.T. is dying and is so 20th century. I hope I am wrong but we are seen as cost drainers who do not add any value to the bottom line. Engineers know do business processing stuff. So I am becoming a teacher instead. You can't outsource that.
Reasonable should be no less than 50% ABOVE the median income of the area they are getting hired to work in. If the companies really can't get workers in that area, then they should be willing to pay more.
You find me a job, ANY JOB, where they lack qualified applicants and I can show you a job where they don't pay enough.
Problem with that argument is then they can just outsource to India where they can just pay INdian wages and get a nice tax tax cut doing so as money that stays there is not seen by the IRS.
If you start messing with this it will only encourage more outsourcing.
I have been in your boat my friend and this is not an attempt at a flamebait.
I accepted near poverty wages as no one would talk to me when I demanded $20 an hour! Then I lowered to $18/hr. Got 1 interview. Lowered it to $15/hr got 6 interviews! Then putting my head to shame I went as low as $13/hr. Bang! Got hired!
You are not worth $70,000 a year. If you were you would not have typed this and would be working right? So you went to school and had no jump? Welcome to the fucking real world my friend where 40% do not get jobs in their field.
So work 2 jobs. Go wait tables? Go sell shit at Best Buy when you are not making $13 an hour. Money with degrees only make $13/hr or $26,000 a year starting out?! No you did not misread that. Sorry buddy but, without experience no one is going to talk to you.
Go work, get your references, join a temp agency so you can maximize the amount of references you obtain so you can make that $70,000 some day. My brother makes $130,000 a year and has an MBA. How much did he make as a young kid fresh out of school at the same company? Only $50,000 as a systems analysis excel jockey. He had to earn that.
Whining about Indians and H1b1s folks will not change the situation. You have to be worth that $70,000 in an ROI and out of school you wont get that. It takes years. Sorry slashdotters but that is the hard truth and why the corps are really whining about qualified workers. Not wages, but for $70,000 a year you should as hell have many years experience.
So get to work gaining them. Other slashdotters reading this who make $70,0000 will repeat what I am saying.
And who uses the "consulting companies"? Your local company. They use these "consulting companies" for their IT needs.
And in the meantime they bitch and moan about the lack of local talent.
Listen folks: business people are two faced liars. Anyone who defends them is the same.
I know people who still think their house should be worth 1.5 million because that is what they used to sell for in 2007.
What?! It has 2 acres. That should be worth $500,000 an acre right!?
But they fail to see the reality of not everyone is a doctor, CEO, or lawyer who is willing to pay that since the banks want 20% down now for jumbo mortgages and those reading this comment probably can not afford that except for 2% of the readers.
When you pay X for Y time your brain gets hardwired to figure that is how much X should be worth. Same iwth gas prices. Now we do not care that they are over $3.00/gallon. In 2001 we would be pissing our pants and cutting out expenses.
The HR robots and beancounters got used to cheap in-disposable labor for 7 years where 4 applicants applied per 1 job! Maybe 10 if you count the .com pop since 2001? So $39,000 a year for a entry level JR program/LAN admin is considered expensive. No one should pay more than $55,000 for an I.T job because we have never offered that in the history we worked here.
Now the ball is returning back to the employee in negotiations. In Florida it is still an employers job market. I was offiered $13.50/hr to administrator MS Exchange on a Lan admin level?! They wanted 5 years experience and up to date Microsoft credentials on top of that. That is how much an Indian H1B1 made so why pay more??
No one is buying windows 8 machines that owns any previous windows computer
Except to replace a PC that currently runs an operating system that will stop receiving security patches a year from now.
Most XP users if they have not left for now have no plans to do so in 2014 either. They have AV software so why worry? And will keep XP for the next 13 years afterwards until the day the power supply goes kapoof.
So you are more interested in purchasing something malware writters who now know the keys to sign their malware as a rootkit making it impossible to remove?
Bad? Part of the UEFI barrier for other OS's has just been Open Sourced.
And there was much rejoicing.
Or a piece of malware will now sign itself and change the keys making it impossible to remove. It would be better totally unlocked otherwise. If the keys were in ROM where they could not be rewritten then yes there will be much rejoicing but who is to say the malware wont reimage itself in the UEFI and put another set of keys maybe randomly generated on the host?
Thats because most sites sniff useragents and serve browser specific code. This move will break apps that sniff android or Chrome and only serve -webkit specific CSs
Where I am from there is only one standard. It is what the user uses that previously worked fine. If IE 6 works for Dell EMS then IE 6 is the standard and IE 10/Chrome break it according to my users and therefore are the broken ones. The browser is never blamed. And mentioning W3C is behind their comprehension.
That is the point. Whenever someone uses something it is not the defecto standard and if it tries to do things the right way in future releases the user will consider that one broken so in the case of dropping -webkit in Android/Chrome for -Blink would be disastrous and make a lot of pissed off users or confused webdevelopers if 2 -webkit CSS deliver different results. Then the user will always blame the I.T. department and website administrators.
Jquery 2.0 supports all modern as in less than 2 current releases old. I hate to bring to you but, Firefox 3.6 is not modern. It is old, buggy, insecure, archaic, and now over 2 years old and should be dropped. Its marketshare is beginning to match IE 6 and is now below IE 7. I was a big firefox fan but even started playing with IE 8 at the beginning of 2011 as Firefox 3.6 was just terrible and felt more like old IE than its phoenix beginnings.
But that has changed and it is a much improved browser.
I use ESR Firefox which is based off of 17 and that is considered current.
In addition JQuery 1.9 is almost done and is built exactly for older browsers with some back-ported features.
""We are not browsing a vendor-agnostic web. IE6 simply had shitty enough CSS that, when IE7/8 corrected it, the bandwagon pointed at ACID3 and declared this the promised land of standards-compliance, ignoring that this is just a calm between storms. Mark my words, "Best viewed in" is returning, and it will be just as bad as you remember. You'll know it finally happens when jQuery gets fed up with an engine and takes sides."
You mean how JQuery 2.0 wont support IE 8?
That I am in favor of. The corps will whine and freak out how trajic it is to not use a 4 year old browser that thinks xhtml means emulate quirky HTML IE 5.5, but I am in favor of this on the desktop. ... on the cell phone end. Yes Windows Phone wont browse half the websites! They see mobile and feed -webkit crap sheets to it that it doesn't understand and not W3C HTML 5/CSS 3. After all webkit owns 95% of the mobile market so why bother targeting it? But IE 6... that thing sucks because its sooo proprietary yadda yadda.
If we all switch to tablets in 10 years we might be in for some trouble if webkit becomes too dominate.
I hope they don't keep -webkit-* enabled forever. The CSSWG agreement doesn't say anything about phasing out existing prefixed properties, but keeping them around with outdated syntax/behavior doesn't seem like a good idea. It was never good practice to use a prefixed property without its unprefixed version. So if removing prefixed properties breaks some pages, that means they were broken in the first place.
You must be new here :-)
Things stay freaking forever in the industry once it someone or a corporation is dependent on something. IE 6 and XP is still being used with its users considering an open standard broken because it breaks and broken standard to them which is open. Logic is backwards but CMS never get replaced, sites stay, and users whine and blame YOU if something doesn't work. Never the product.
This is a classic lesson on why standards are so important and why going proprietary is bad. Not a closed vs open debate more than a standard one. Stuff never goes away even if it is broken.
My fear now is Chrome is the new IE 6 of this decade.
With things changing and mobile users monopolized on it this will get confusing as much as different versions of IE last decade which is why the corps all standardized on IE 6.
Mobile sites will go through hell next and it might hurt Android and help IOS if the -webkit extension is removed or if W3C changes a standard that is different from the -webkit one. Look up IE boxmodel? This caused hell as IE 6 was ahead in this arena and W3C changed it and Firefox followed the other box model for CSS layout leaving IE 6 only webapps that still are in to this day.
Many CMS are never updated as beancounters consider them a cost so they will still output the proprietary -webkit code even if it is slated to be finalized by the W3C. Yuck.
Why not just make the choice of rendering engine user configurable?
Yeah, that will work real well with clueless (l)users complaining why a site wont work to developers.
What engine are you using IE, what version, IE, what setting, IE hey you are going to fix this or what!
At least now you tell them about IE for the version. Or the logs will report it. Imagine if Firefox emulating trident IE 8 displayed different than IE 8, but was recorded as IE 8 in the logs?
The real question is will the corps and users want to keep old versions of Chrome around for their web apps and sites?
Many with -webkit CSS extensions wont work if Chrome gets rid of them. If Google calls it -webkit then we will have 2 different versions and web developers will be confused and not know which is which when users report a site looks funny.
The bios is manufactored, programmed, designed, and all made in China.
I would not be surprised if they have a backdoor to spy or be disabled. We know all our cell phones have this and can record everything with a secret code and the US government is in on that one. It has been posted on slashdot before as they are perfect spy devices for any citizen. It makes sense China would want the same.
Even the new Lenovo assembled PCs in the US are probably made in China. WIth firmware on all our weapons and planes China would love to disable our whole military in a blink of an eye if something like a conflict in Korea ever happened. The power is too incredible to ignore and CEOs to eager to comply to meet shareholder expectations and get their bonus.
I am a subscriber. Will the servers shutdown?