The reason Linus turned down GPLv3 is that it required giving the copyright and permission available from all contributors. Linus wants to keep it trademarked under his name and the task is impossible to track everyone down for approval with GPLv3.
With trusted computing and drm teh answer is yes with security.
It will be Microsoft's selling point since running unsigned apps will be impossible if you setup windows Vista this way. IT departments will love this.
I just wrote on various livejournal communities a question about using Linux on powerpc. I planned to buy a powerbook.
Linux is a required unix to learn at class so macosx is out of the question. What surprissed me is that Linus now uses a mac as his main linux workstation so I assumed linux would be alot better on it now.
I think Opensolaris has a beta that works on powerpc that supports sleep but I am not too sure on that.
Are you sure Linux doesn't support it? That sucks dude.
Appearently our laws say its legal to support China and illegal to take a stance as it gets in the way of profits. Being humane is actually a crime on their our laws agaisnt it if it goes in the agaisnt the shareholders.
The shareholders are just guys with calculators making critical business decisions and missing china will make the accountant take action agaisnt the CEO as he reports to his bosses on what Google did and lost billions in *potential* revenue.
I find this very disturbing where teh laws even here favor teh shareholders over morality as the mighty buck is the new god of morality.
Also noteworthy is that George punished Nortel for supporting him AND KERRY in 2004. Now that can't bid on some contracts as punishment for not being republican.
I see a very disturbing pattern here. You are either for him or agaisnt him and with this spying crap going on I see us literally turning fascist by the day.
Google's CEO would be fired if he didn't and be replaced by someone else who would get the job done. Its just business.
Also as another poster posted, Google could be sued for violating laws that prohibit companies for being humanitarian? Henry Ford lost a case on this.
Its absolutely disgusting that its illegal to not be evil and a requirment of supporting what you described. Money is the root of all evil and I surely agree with this.
Google is the victim is how I see it. If they take a stand someone else like Microsoft will take the money and all the 1.2 billion market from them.
Who said comunism is at all evil? The free market supporters which supposed to be good are the evil ones in this case.
Perhaps they are furious that Google refused to hand over the search records of millions of people so now the whitehouse is going after them?
I would not be surprised considering Bush punished several corporations who gave money to Kerry in 2004 so now they can't bid on government contracts but republican companies can.
If you own the sushi suite you may want to change its name. Sushi is an opensource packing tool for NetBSD from Wasabi systems. They own the copyright for that. Just giving you a headsup.
Itanium was supposed to take over by now as powerpc took over the mk6800 for the mac.
Infact Itanium was Intel's response to the powerpc chip and the growing threat of risc. IT was supposed to take over and was designed to do so under a false premise that manufactoring would limit transistor counts by now and things should be moved to software and cache/ram should be moved to hardware. What a disaster.
Intel was expecting to make over $20 billion last year in Itanium sales and made only mere millions. No one wants it and it has no real market.
The scientific community is even abandonding it for Opterons in supercomputers.
I think Intel/HP should keep making it but no longer invest in it besides having a niche place in the market. THe market doesn't want it.
Even Intel mentioned they were expected by shareholders to make $26 billion last year with Itanium sales and only made sales targets in the mere millions??
Not to sound flamebaitish but how many billions upon billions have Intel/HP invested in the Itanic errr ITanium? To me I see it as a way to say "Hey! We just blew billions into this project and were are going to get a return whether you like it or not!" and being totally ignorant about sunken costs or what the market prefers.
For $1 billion they could resurrect the alpha and take over the whole market. IT sounds silly to say this but the alpha is the only chip that is fast enough to get corporate clients to switch and can run winx86 software nominally fast. If not then bring back PA-Risc for some of their high end systems.
THe market has responded many times over and over again that they dont want the Itanium. Yet, stupidly and arrogance designed to protect a few executives self image (perhaps their job) means 10 billion more lost.
I think Sun and IBM are getting quite a kick out of it.
If a mere mortal known as a middle class person such as myself or 99% of those reading this made such a dumb decision about investments at work we would be canned in a second.
Intel purchased a small Israeli chip firm to make the new Pentium Dou core that is used in Apple's powerbooks...err macbook pros. Very efficient chip and low power usage produced with a cap only in the mere millions. That just goes to show how poor of an investment it was.
This makes no sense. Just like in the game of poker you need to leave the money on the table and walk. Its gone and your not going to get it back.
My uncle laughed his ass off at my 2006 Hyundia Elantra that I bought. Why? Because only a liberal would buy a car when you could get a truck. I didn't argue.
I did ask him why I needed a big Ford F250 truck? I am a college student hurting on money and have nothing to hual. I got no answer.
After seeing gas prices go back up again I smirk when I think of his 9mpg truck.
You can't convince people that they can't have the car of their dreams sadly.
I bought a new 2006 Hyundia Elantra and any ethenal can damage the engine and my car's manual has big warning labels about using ethanol at all.
I want to avoid ethanol as even %10 could damage my engine. I hope they dont mix it in gas soon without informing customers. My fear is with high gas prices there will be an incentive to mix it in to cut down on costs. After all if you say 2 gas stations with one for $2.30 a gallon and one for $2.40 a gallon then which one would you chose?
Most linux distros for x86 dont include efi support in the default kernel so editing grub wont work. Also the El Torrito bios feature which boots cdroms is not available on the macs. So they wont boot and macosx uses its own method to boot from the cd's.
You can get it to work if you use linux from scratch which is a pain in the ass and for experts only. My guess is Gentoo will be first since its developers are familiar with linux from scratch which gentoo evolved from. All they need is EFI support in the bootable kernel as well as efi cdrom support and instructions on how to configure grub for EFI.
If your in charge of the systems and admit you can't do them it will look at such. IN a circumstance its best to do so before being promoted and warn them you need training. Afterwards it reflects poorly on the employee since the PHB's who are the bosses boss assume you are already trained and knowledgable in new technology.
After all they are paying already for this right? Its not about free but costs that are already being paid in her salary.
many employers are under the impression that if you can't learn on your or if you can't know everything about anything then you need to fire that person and replace them with someone who is.
Training today means incompetance to lots of folks in IT who consider us janitors that Indians do for $5k-10k a year. With salaries like that we get no respect and we are viewed as a cost center only.
Businesses buy ms crap and they use microsoft products because they feel its somehow all integrated and works together with other MS crapware. Many sites today require IE and Windows and dont care about mac users or anyone else since its too niche and expensive to support.
If this integrated with MSAccess, IIS, MS SQL-SERVER, and Frontpage then you could have a very killer product.
Microsoft could tie it in to Frontpage and IIS. This would make it valuable to web developers who work in corporate America who have already standardized on Microsoft standards.
If its by Microsoft people will buy. Corporate American especially.
Its in Microsoft nature to bring the demand aka price up by having requirements to use their products. Since you can't use a competitors product then you are at the mercy of Microsoft.
Microsoft loves to do this as it makes consumers and business purchasers weary of non microsoft standards. If any standard can be replaced it would be an open one or one from another company. A MS standard is here to stay.
That in turn rakes in more money for Microsoft due to increased demand. MS makes more money because things like database features will work best with SQL-Server and MS-Access of course. IT likes to call them glue. As in everything just works together if you use all microsoft.
Very old 1994 joke with the pentiumI. It had a serve FPU problem causing strange things during division.
I am trying to remember some old jokes with the pentium60's and 66's
1.112356 Intel's new pentium FPU confirms to the IEE standards. Wonder what it would be like to fly a plane designed on the new pentium? IIIEEEEEEEE!
2.111004 Intel's new pentium is great for running games like doom that dont need precise floating point numbers heavily. After all, after paying $3500 for the opportunity to run the pentium over the 486 to just run games is priceless.
2.99998 Intel's new pentium makes the Monty Python skit with engineers seeing double when designing a new bridge a dream come true.
I can't remember the rest. There were 10. I think the third one I read on usenet somewhere and not part of the classic 10 pentium joke list that was on zdnet's pcmagazine.
I studied this in economics with the theory of monopolies being good. Supporters love to talk about how patents are required to stay in business but the facts go agaisnt this.
Colaboration and a monopoly on particular drugs and manufactoring processes of the drugs keep new cures from coming to light. Mainly because its not profit to cure a deadly disease if only a few hundred thousand people have it. However another over the counter drug for the common cold is where the money is at.
So we have more cold medication and less aids and cancer cures as a result.
Also if you have a monopoly or obglipoly(spelling) then there is no incentive for research. Research is an expense that cost money and therefor needs to be eliminated as such. Patents encourage this as they give monopolies to drugs to these companies so they are not under financial pressure to innovate.
Why can't drugs just be copyrighted instead?
also I would like to point out that since one supplier owns %100 of drugX, drugX is only made in very limited quantities to jerk the price up to insane levels. Its the main reason health care costs are going up. It has little to do with lawsuits and more to do with greedy drug companies gouging the market.
Flamebait all you want from the moderators reading this belonging to the pure gnu persusian but writing closed source drivers are tough for linux.
Blame the manufactors? Its the FCC that forces them to not give out details to hackers. Many other governments have similiar regulations on what hackers can and can not do to wireless. The government doesn't want people takign down airplanes are terrorists doing espianage on communication equipment.
So they must stay closed source if they are an American company. Many manufactors are now using software and creating win-wlan cards to save money. Remember what happened to linux after modem makers only made software modems? Samething with winprinters that make up the majority of printers today.
Under windows you write once and most likely the drivers will work with future versions of windows unless there is a major upgrade. That is because of NDIS and kernel and software level api's and device driver kits for windows.
We need a consistant and stable abi's and api's for linux so hardware makers can release the drivers for linux. Also old solaris drivers work just fine under solaris10 because of consistant api's and abi's.
I know VIA and several manufactors have requesting to Morton and Linus for this feature even though it divides then linux community.
Why should blackberry consumers pay a %50 tax on the companies legal defense from a counter company that doesn't make anything only buys patents to sue people?
Do they even make any products at all? They are a patent purchasing firm that just hires lawyers to buy patents and sue people and pass the money onto us the consumer.
Worse the money used to win the case will now be used to obtain other patents so they can SUE even more people and pass the cost on to us.
What service are they providing the economy? What resource are they providing us? They shouldn't exist at all according to classic economics as they dont server society its need. Its classic socialism right there as they are a government mandated monopoly on the patents they own. Just plain stupid.
Its just another reason to ban patents all together and stick with copyrights.
Now everyone has to suffer to make some CEO happy and their shareholders.
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The reason Linus turned down GPLv3 is that it required giving the copyright and permission available from all contributors. Linus wants to keep it trademarked under his name and the task is impossible to track everyone down for approval with GPLv3.
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With trusted computing and drm teh answer is yes with security.
It will be Microsoft's selling point since running unsigned apps will be impossible if you setup windows Vista this way. IT departments will love this.
Meanwhile it sounds scary for the rest of us.
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I just wrote on various livejournal communities a question about using Linux on powerpc. I planned to buy a powerbook.
Linux is a required unix to learn at class so macosx is out of the question. What surprissed me is that Linus now uses a mac as his main linux workstation so I assumed linux would be alot better on it now.
I think Opensolaris has a beta that works on powerpc that supports sleep but I am not too sure on that.
Are you sure Linux doesn't support it? That sucks dude.
Appearently our laws say its legal to support China and illegal to take a stance as it gets in the way of profits. Being humane is actually a crime on their our laws agaisnt it if it goes in the agaisnt the shareholders.
The shareholders are just guys with calculators making critical business decisions and missing china will make the accountant take action agaisnt the CEO as he reports to his bosses on what Google did and lost billions in *potential* revenue.
I find this very disturbing where teh laws even here favor teh shareholders over morality as the mighty buck is the new god of morality.
Also noteworthy is that George punished Nortel for supporting him AND KERRY in 2004. Now that can't bid on some contracts as punishment for not being republican.
I see a very disturbing pattern here. You are either for him or agaisnt him and with this spying crap going on I see us literally turning fascist by the day.
Google's CEO would be fired if he didn't and be replaced by someone else who would get the job done. Its just business.
Also as another poster posted, Google could be sued for violating laws that prohibit companies for being humanitarian? Henry Ford lost a case on this.
Its absolutely disgusting that its illegal to not be evil and a requirment of supporting what you described. Money is the root of all evil and I surely agree with this.
Google is the victim is how I see it. If they take a stand someone else like Microsoft will take the money and all the 1.2 billion market from them.
Who said comunism is at all evil? The free market supporters which supposed to be good are the evil ones in this case.
Perhaps they are furious that Google refused to hand over the search records of millions of people so now the whitehouse is going after them?
I would not be surprised considering Bush punished several corporations who gave money to Kerry in 2004 so now they can't bid on government contracts but republican companies can.
I smell a rat.
PS
If you own the sushi suite you may want to change its name. Sushi is an opensource packing tool for NetBSD from Wasabi systems. They own the copyright for that. Just giving you a headsup.
Itanium was supposed to take over by now as powerpc took over the mk6800 for the mac.
Infact Itanium was Intel's response to the powerpc chip and the growing threat of risc. IT was supposed to take over and was designed to do so under a false premise that manufactoring would limit transistor counts by now and things should be moved to software and cache/ram should be moved to hardware. What a disaster.
Intel was expecting to make over $20 billion last year in Itanium sales and made only mere millions. No one wants it and it has no real market.
The scientific community is even abandonding it for Opterons in supercomputers.
I think Intel/HP should keep making it but no longer invest in it besides having a niche place in the market. THe market doesn't want it.
I know I surely would if I were a big investor.
How could they be so stupid?
Even Intel mentioned they were expected by shareholders to make $26 billion last year with Itanium sales and only made sales targets in the mere millions??
Not to sound flamebaitish but how many billions upon billions have Intel/HP invested in the Itanic errr ITanium? To me I see it as a way to say "Hey! We just blew billions into this project and were are going to get a return whether you like it or not!" and being totally ignorant about sunken costs or what the market prefers.
For $1 billion they could resurrect the alpha and take over the whole market. IT sounds silly to say this but the alpha is the only chip that is fast enough to get corporate clients to switch and can run winx86 software nominally fast. If not then bring back PA-Risc for some of their high end systems.
THe market has responded many times over and over again that they dont want the Itanium. Yet, stupidly and arrogance designed to protect a few executives self image (perhaps their job) means 10 billion more lost.
I think Sun and IBM are getting quite a kick out of it.
If a mere mortal known as a middle class person such as myself or 99% of those reading this made such a dumb decision about investments at work we would be canned in a second.
Intel purchased a small Israeli chip firm to make the new Pentium Dou core that is used in Apple's powerbooks...err macbook pros. Very efficient chip and low power usage produced with a cap only in the mere millions. That just goes to show how poor of an investment it was.
This makes no sense. Just like in the game of poker you need to leave the money on the table and walk. Its gone and your not going to get it back.
Good luck
My uncle laughed his ass off at my 2006 Hyundia Elantra that I bought. Why? Because only a liberal would buy a car when you could get a truck. I didn't argue.
I did ask him why I needed a big Ford F250 truck? I am a college student hurting on money and have nothing to hual. I got no answer.
After seeing gas prices go back up again I smirk when I think of his 9mpg truck.
You can't convince people that they can't have the car of their dreams sadly.
Exactly.
I bought a new 2006 Hyundia Elantra and any ethenal can damage the engine and my car's manual has big warning labels about using ethanol at all.
I want to avoid ethanol as even %10 could damage my engine. I hope they dont mix it in gas soon without informing customers. My fear is with high gas prices there will be an incentive to mix it in to cut down on costs. After all if you say 2 gas stations with one for $2.30 a gallon and one for $2.40 a gallon then which one would you chose?
Now I can learn how to create secure bugfree code from the masters.
Most linux distros for x86 dont include efi support in the default kernel so editing grub wont work. Also the El Torrito bios feature which boots cdroms is not available on the macs. So they wont boot and macosx uses its own method to boot from the cd's.
You can get it to work if you use linux from scratch which is a pain in the ass and for experts only. My guess is Gentoo will be first since its developers are familiar with linux from scratch which gentoo evolved from. All they need is EFI support in the bootable kernel as well as efi cdrom support and instructions on how to configure grub for EFI.
If your in charge of the systems and admit you can't do them it will look at such. IN a circumstance its best to do so before being promoted and warn them you need training. Afterwards it reflects poorly on the employee since the PHB's who are the bosses boss assume you are already trained and knowledgable in new technology.
After all they are paying already for this right? Its not about free but costs that are already being paid in her salary.
Great way to get canned too for causing trouble and taking things to the powers that be instead of your super bla bla bla.
Makes you look incompetant too since its her job to learn and fix things. If not hten why does she work here?
What a damn mess. I hate corporate america sometimes and the politics in it.
many employers are under the impression that if you can't learn on your or if you can't know everything about anything then you need to fire that person and replace them with someone who is.
Training today means incompetance to lots of folks in IT who consider us janitors that Indians do for $5k-10k a year. With salaries like that we get no respect and we are viewed as a cost center only.
Sure it would kill. Its from Microsoft.
Businesses buy ms crap and they use microsoft products because they feel its somehow all integrated and works together with other MS crapware. Many sites today require IE and Windows and dont care about mac users or anyone else since its too niche and expensive to support.
If this integrated with MSAccess, IIS, MS SQL-SERVER, and Frontpage then you could have a very killer product.
Microsoft could tie it in to Frontpage and IIS. This would make it valuable to web developers who work in corporate America who have already standardized on Microsoft standards.
If its by Microsoft people will buy. Corporate American especially.
Its in Microsoft nature to bring the demand aka price up by having requirements to use their products. Since you can't use a competitors product then you are at the mercy of Microsoft.
Microsoft loves to do this as it makes consumers and business purchasers weary of non microsoft standards. If any standard can be replaced it would be an open one or one from another company. A MS standard is here to stay.
That in turn rakes in more money for Microsoft due to increased demand. MS makes more money because things like database features will work best with SQL-Server and MS-Access of course. IT likes to call them glue. As in everything just works together if you use all microsoft.
Very old 1994 joke with the pentiumI. It had a serve FPU problem causing strange things during division.
I am trying to remember some old jokes with the pentium60's and 66's
1.112356 Intel's new pentium FPU confirms to the IEE standards. Wonder what it would be like to fly a plane designed on the new pentium? IIIEEEEEEEE!
2.111004 Intel's new pentium is great for running games like doom that dont need precise floating point numbers heavily. After all, after paying $3500 for the opportunity to run the pentium over the 486 to just run games is priceless.
2.99998 Intel's new pentium makes the Monty Python skit with engineers seeing double when designing a new bridge a dream come true.
I can't remember the rest. There were 10. I think the third one I read on usenet somewhere and not part of the classic 10 pentium joke list that was on zdnet's pcmagazine.
Yes they do support the grandposters idea.
I studied this in economics with the theory of monopolies being good. Supporters love to talk about how patents are required to stay in business but the facts go agaisnt this.
Colaboration and a monopoly on particular drugs and manufactoring processes of the drugs keep new cures from coming to light. Mainly because its not profit to cure a deadly disease if only a few hundred thousand people have it. However another over the counter drug for the common cold is where the money is at.
So we have more cold medication and less aids and cancer cures as a result.
Also if you have a monopoly or obglipoly(spelling) then there is no incentive for research. Research is an expense that cost money and therefor needs to be eliminated as such. Patents encourage this as they give monopolies to drugs to these companies so they are not under financial pressure to innovate.
Why can't drugs just be copyrighted instead?
also I would like to point out that since one supplier owns %100 of drugX, drugX is only made in very limited quantities to jerk the price up to insane levels. Its the main reason health care costs are going up. It has little to do with lawsuits and more to do with greedy drug companies gouging the market.
Flamebait all you want from the moderators reading this belonging to the pure gnu persusian but writing closed source drivers are tough for linux.
Blame the manufactors? Its the FCC that forces them to not give out details to hackers. Many other governments have similiar regulations on what hackers can and can not do to wireless. The government doesn't want people takign down airplanes are terrorists doing espianage on communication equipment.
So they must stay closed source if they are an American company. Many manufactors are now using software and creating win-wlan cards to save money. Remember what happened to linux after modem makers only made software modems? Samething with winprinters that make up the majority of printers today.
Under windows you write once and most likely the drivers will work with future versions of windows unless there is a major upgrade. That is because of NDIS and kernel and software level api's and device driver kits for windows.
We need a consistant and stable abi's and api's for linux so hardware makers can release the drivers for linux. Also old solaris drivers work just fine under solaris10 because of consistant api's and abi's.
I know VIA and several manufactors have requesting to Morton and Linus for this feature even though it divides then linux community.
Why should blackberry consumers pay a %50 tax on the companies legal defense from a counter company that doesn't make anything only buys patents to sue people?
Do they even make any products at all? They are a patent purchasing firm that just hires lawyers to buy patents and sue people and pass the money onto us the consumer.
Worse the money used to win the case will now be used to obtain other patents so they can SUE even more people and pass the cost on to us.
What service are they providing the economy? What resource are they providing us? They shouldn't exist at all according to classic economics as they dont server society its need. Its classic socialism right there as they are a government mandated monopoly on the patents they own. Just plain stupid.
Its just another reason to ban patents all together and stick with copyrights.
Now everyone has to suffer to make some CEO happy and their shareholders.