I am a MIS major and focusing on Java right now since its the number 1 language sought after. For someone with limited experience should I be focusing on c#?
I am having flashbacks to 1998 right now with the mcse craze. The ones who had MCSE on their resume got the highest paying jobs. I wonder if the same is going to happen with c#?
After all I will be competing with folks with 10+ years of experience in Java on their resumes when I hit the job market.
Actually I think this is why it hit the list of top jobs demanded. Seriously.
If I were an IT manager and needed a.net webservice I would hire some experience java programmers. But many folks in HR dont consider it the same as c#.net experience in webservices so they want experieced applicants only.
Then this leaves a void from HR to find experienced applicants and it makes some dumb top 10 list of highly sought after jobs.
I think if I ever became an IT manager I would just hire folks without HR. They just keep getting in the way.
Most seem to require java and its still #1 by far in any job search.
So I wonder about this claim?
Its stupid to me as a good programmer is proficient in programming and not a language. Maybe the HR weenies think 10+ years in java programming dont count as webservice programming experience in c#.net, so they want all the newbies out of college with no experience. Idiots.
But the spike may not reflect the large situation because not everyone has experience with.net because its new and HR folks filter qualified applicants whose language skills dont match.
If you dont believe me go to dice.com or monsterboard.com and look for jobs in your area? java is the #1 sought after language with c++ second and perl or php third.
I wonder if they consider c++ a.net language since programers are just switching to it whether they use the additional webservices or not?
Also QA jobs is bolony. Most employers tell me its the QA and helpdesk jobs that go to India.
Programming needs to be highly speced and is therefore more efficient where the company headquarters is at for planning. QA doesn't need to be near where the business processes are planned and can be done cheaper oversea's.
I am surprissed any demand is left for programming jobs? Maybe they mean consultants or business process engineering for the phb jobs? Those are needed here.
So the moral of the story is get your degree and get a good business background to suceed. I am back at school after being a formal techie and I learned a ton in my economic classes and now accouting classes that give me a competitive advantage.
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Java6 aka mustang will be focuses on improving swing. It will be multithreaded by default finally so the gui wont lock up making java look slow when the apps is busy. Also it finally has decent mdi support with tabs. Java7 will have swt like widgets that will integrate and look native to each platform its running on. A windows app will look like windows in java. And a linux app will appear like a normal gnome app on Linux.
Thank god for C#. Its putting pressure on sun to improve Java and its finally moving forward again. Java5 is alot better then past releases.
The gui tools are next to none with Netbeans... well for free ide's that is. Jbuilder is nice too... does anyone still use it?
I need Java5 due to school so I have not been using Netbeans as the earlier versions had some issues with it. but I plan to switch and will fire it up later tonight after its done downloading.
Well the big guys own the last mile monopolies and have put the little ISP's out of business. Now since the big guys are left they can have their cake and eat it too and your screwed. This and deregulation hurt competition.
I dont mean to sound like a prick. I work in a call center environment so we have these kinds of ethics. Its harsh I admit but I grew acustomed to them. If someone can't perform you replace them with someone who can. Its cold and heartless but its capitalism and basic economics.
Yes there are reasons behind things. But firing the CIO of a company whose policy creates a hinderance rather than providing a ROI needs to go. Whats the point of paying a large sum of money that only prevents other divisions from doing its job.
If what you claim its the upper managements fault then having a few beers with the IT folks wont help. Filing complaints about things not getting will solve the problem. If the IT worker is stopped by redtape then he or she wont get in trouble. Their boss on the otherhand would and should.
Yes we need procedures but its the CIO's job to provide maximum value back to the company and shareholders. His job is help prevent loss of income from equipment not working and to streamline businesses processes so computers can help the humans work more efficiently. Thats it.
Then hopefully the new IT department in India will share the language. Not to sound like a prick but if it takes 9 months to get a freaking ram module then its a waste of time to deal with.
Being friendly with incompentance can work in certain situations if performance can improve. Mostly its they are incompentant and you just replace.
Why would you get fired? Its not like your causing trouble?
Sounds like a semi decent security depending on the size of the company. I assume another virus scanner runs on your file servers and perhaps a locked down profile is needed as well. Does your company have this?
This guy wont have a job for long if he can't do it.
He needs to get things done and a job is not just a job. Your taking money from your employee and giving him/her a return on their investment. Thats it.
If your not providing value and earnings then you dont deserve to be working for the company. Economics101.
IT is a hinderance and takes money away. So its time to launch a compliant or find an Indian outsourcer which could save millions. If upper management wont listen to his boss then $$$ saved from outsourcing might get their attention.
Needlessly things need to be acomplished so people can do their jobs.
If it takes 9 months to get approval for a freaking ram upgrade then IT deserves to be treated like 3rd class citizens. Respect is earned. They are taking alot of money from the revenue of the organization and contributing nothing in return. Its time to let them go as they provide no value. if I did squat for 9 months as your employee I think you would want to fire me.
Or outsource to India as another poster suggested. Flamebaitish yes but things need to get done.
I have seen many companies have programmers and system administrators that are not members of IT. My father did this because the IT department where he used to work was incompentant. Eventually the CIO was fired and the staff transfered to IT after they could actually do things again.
The cost savings are barely %15 at the most and the Indian management companies take most of the cost savings away.
You need to spec requirements for any programming projects and you can't outsource business processing that far away. If anything efficiency eats in and costs actually go up.
There are a few companies that are %100 based here in the US where manufactoring, operations, and management are all in one location. Outsourcing to China will actually cost more because work wont flow seeminglessly or as easily with everything apart.
I wonder if this guy works for a government contractor or has the military as a customer? Such companies are required to do tons of checks and ballances and security.
It seems Sun is coming out with java Server Faces as an asnwer to rad and php. Have any of you guys tried it?
I am surprised it has no mention here on slashdot so far but most new young slashdot geeks are not interested in java. What a difference a decade makes?
This is why Java Server Faces are taking over to streamline Servlet development. You can include custom tags right in html like php from what I heard. I have not used them yet but they look promising.
But I suppose that would make napster cheaper than rahsody which is $10 a month.
I bought my Ipod because of Itunes and I now realize there are much chaper alternatives. Its a wonder why napster never caught on? Price is alot cheaper than Itunes. But with google behind it I am sure it would become popular.
I am waiting for a google movie/audio player. Microsoft has monopolized the market which is a shame. Windows is now required to watch porn with some codecs which is hurting Linux. The only alternative is the crappy realplayer but no one seems to use it anymore.
Opensolaris already has backported it to powerpc. Its almost finished. So why not?
I think he wants solaris to be the alternative to linux. As a former FreeBSD user its nice to see a stable operating system that is also enterprise ready in terms of scalability and performance. I like unix more than linux and I want to try out OpenSolaris soon when I have time. The way sun wants to do this is increase the platforms and peripherals solaris can run on. Solaris10 is a big improvement on x86 over 9 in terms of hardware support and performance.
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I am a MIS major and focusing on Java right now since its the number 1 language sought after. For someone with limited experience should I be focusing on c#?
I am having flashbacks to 1998 right now with the mcse craze. The ones who had MCSE on their resume got the highest paying jobs. I wonder if the same is going to happen with c#?
After all I will be competing with folks with 10+ years of experience in Java on their resumes when I hit the job market.
Actually I think this is why it hit the list of top jobs demanded. Seriously.
.net webservice I would hire some experience java programmers. But many folks in HR dont consider it the same as c#.net experience in webservices so they want experieced applicants only.
If I were an IT manager and needed a
Then this leaves a void from HR to find experienced applicants and it makes some dumb top 10 list of highly sought after jobs.
I think if I ever became an IT manager I would just hire folks without HR. They just keep getting in the way.
Most seem to require java and its still #1 by far in any job search.
So I wonder about this claim?
Its stupid to me as a good programmer is proficient in programming and not a language. Maybe the HR weenies think 10+ years in java programming dont count as webservice programming experience in c#.net, so they want all the newbies out of college with no experience. Idiots.
But the spike may not reflect the large situation because not everyone has experience with.net because its new and HR folks filter qualified applicants whose language skills dont match.
If you dont believe me go to dice.com or monsterboard.com and look for jobs in your area? java is the #1 sought after language with c++ second and perl or php third.
.net language since programers are just switching to it whether they use the additional webservices or not?
I wonder if they consider c++ a
Also QA jobs is bolony. Most employers tell me its the QA and helpdesk jobs that go to India.
Programming needs to be highly speced and is therefore more efficient where the company headquarters is at for planning. QA doesn't need to be near where the business processes are planned and can be done cheaper oversea's.
I am surprissed any demand is left for programming jobs? Maybe they mean consultants or business process engineering for the phb jobs? Those are needed here.
So the moral of the story is get your degree and get a good business background to suceed. I am back at school after being a formal techie and I learned a ton in my economic classes and now accouting classes that give me a competitive advantage.
Java6 aka mustang will be focuses on improving swing. It will be multithreaded by default finally so the gui wont lock up making java look slow when the apps is busy. Also it finally has decent mdi support with tabs. Java7 will have swt like widgets that will integrate and look native to each platform its running on. A windows app will look like windows in java. And a linux app will appear like a normal gnome app on Linux.
Thank god for C#. Its putting pressure on sun to improve Java and its finally moving forward again. Java5 is alot better then past releases.
The gui tools are next to none with Netbeans... well for free ide's that is. Jbuilder is nice too... does anyone still use it?
I need Java5 due to school so I have not been using Netbeans as the earlier versions had some issues with it. but I plan to switch and will fire it up later tonight after its done downloading.
Apple still makes G5's for people like yourself. If you have an old G4 go upgrade?
Whats the name of yoru ISP? I want to make sure I never do business with them.
All the small ISP's have gone away due to illegal moves by the big carriers who owned the last mile.
Now there are only a handfull of players left with a financial interest to screw you. Why not?
Well the big guys own the last mile monopolies and have put the little ISP's out of business. Now since the big guys are left they can have their cake and eat it too and your screwed. This and deregulation hurt competition.
The world will move on and laugh at us.
So I can run this exciting game on it.
Kudos to both software development groups with their stable and done products.
I dont mean to sound like a prick. I work in a call center environment so we have these kinds of ethics. Its harsh I admit but I grew acustomed to them. If someone can't perform you replace them with someone who can. Its cold and heartless but its capitalism and basic economics.
Yes there are reasons behind things. But firing the CIO of a company whose policy creates a hinderance rather than providing a ROI needs to go. Whats the point of paying a large sum of money that only prevents other divisions from doing its job.
If what you claim its the upper managements fault then having a few beers with the IT folks wont help. Filing complaints about things not getting will solve the problem. If the IT worker is stopped by redtape then he or she wont get in trouble. Their boss on the otherhand would and should.
Yes we need procedures but its the CIO's job to provide maximum value back to the company and shareholders. His job is help prevent loss of income from equipment not working and to streamline businesses processes so computers can help the humans work more efficiently. Thats it.
Then hopefully the new IT department in India will share the language. Not to sound like a prick but if it takes 9 months to get a freaking ram module then its a waste of time to deal with.
Being friendly with incompentance can work in certain situations if performance can improve. Mostly its they are incompentant and you just replace.
Why would you get fired? Its not like your causing trouble?
Sounds like a semi decent security depending on the size of the company. I assume another virus scanner runs on your file servers and perhaps a locked down profile is needed as well. Does your company have this?
These guys can go after you as well.
If you complain about IT they will go behind your back as well. The joy of politics.
This guy wont have a job for long if he can't do it.
He needs to get things done and a job is not just a job. Your taking money from your employee and giving him/her a return on their investment. Thats it.
If your not providing value and earnings then you dont deserve to be working for the company. Economics101.
IT is a hinderance and takes money away. So its time to launch a compliant or find an Indian outsourcer which could save millions. If upper management wont listen to his boss then $$$ saved from outsourcing might get their attention.
Needlessly things need to be acomplished so people can do their jobs.
If it takes 9 months to get approval for a freaking ram upgrade then IT deserves to be treated like 3rd class citizens. Respect is earned. They are taking alot of money from the revenue of the organization and contributing nothing in return. Its time to let them go as they provide no value. if I did squat for 9 months as your employee I think you would want to fire me.
Or outsource to India as another poster suggested. Flamebaitish yes but things need to get done.
I have seen many companies have programmers and system administrators that are not members of IT. My father did this because the IT department where he used to work was incompentant. Eventually the CIO was fired and the staff transfered to IT after they could actually do things again.
Bolony.
The cost savings are barely %15 at the most and the Indian management companies take most of the cost savings away.
You need to spec requirements for any programming projects and you can't outsource business processing that far away. If anything efficiency eats in and costs actually go up.
There are a few companies that are %100 based here in the US where manufactoring, operations, and management are all in one location. Outsourcing to China will actually cost more because work wont flow seeminglessly or as easily with everything apart.
I wonder if this guy works for a government contractor or has the military as a customer? Such companies are required to do tons of checks and ballances and security.
It seems Sun is coming out with java Server Faces as an asnwer to rad and php. Have any of you guys tried it?
I am surprised it has no mention here on slashdot so far but most new young slashdot geeks are not interested in java. What a difference a decade makes?
This is why Java Server Faces are taking over to streamline Servlet development. You can include custom tags right in html like php from what I heard. I have not used them yet but they look promising.
But I suppose that would make napster cheaper than rahsody which is $10 a month.
I bought my Ipod because of Itunes and I now realize there are much chaper alternatives. Its a wonder why napster never caught on? Price is alot cheaper than Itunes. But with google behind it I am sure it would become popular.
I am waiting for a google movie/audio player. Microsoft has monopolized the market which is a shame. Windows is now required to watch porn with some codecs which is hurting Linux. The only alternative is the crappy realplayer but no one seems to use it anymore.
Nintendo has been losing tons of money and marketshare for awhile. I remember one slashdot post which showed a %70 loss!
Cisco makes fine routers but their other products such as their proxy software and linksys cards are garbage.
The profit margins are razor thin in the console market anyway so it would not make them any money. It has to be only a rumor.
.. a filter that blocks out things non friendly to the communist government of China?
It looks like slashdot will always be visible in China. :-)
Opensolaris already has backported it to powerpc. Its almost finished. So why not?
I think he wants solaris to be the alternative to linux. As a former FreeBSD user its nice to see a stable operating system that is also enterprise ready in terms of scalability and performance. I like unix more than linux and I want to try out OpenSolaris soon when I have time. The way sun wants to do this is increase the platforms and peripherals solaris can run on. Solaris10 is a big improvement on x86 over 9 in terms of hardware support and performance.