So you see nothing wrong with blobs of callback after callback with making your own threading and scheduling from scratch?
JavaScript has been accused of many things, but "threading" isn't one of them.
I don't mind blobs of callback in principle. Continuation-passing style doesn't scare me at all (especially in a language like Scheme or Haskell). But I agree with you. The more I used Node.JS, the more I realised I really wanted Erlang.
Why can't you use nginx or something else to handle your async calls rather than write your own crappy one in JavaScript? I see no point of reinventing threading and other things when technology exists that do that for you so you can focus on other things.
They need to match. For example if you lie on your taxes you can get in big trouble. By law corporations have to fill out the paperwork titles showing they tried but can get away by using fake job ads etc. My solution is get rid of the fake ads.
Charge a particular title and the department of labor ensures your company that you follow the description exactly and pay the extra money accordingly. This way we can hire people when a REAL shortage is in. Today they just use a contacting company as a loophole. I can be in favor of closing this too or heavily modifying that work around.
The problem is the untold suffering that happens for 30 of those 50 years. That's what a safety net is for.
We got the New Deal because the socialists were gaining support rapidly. It was New Deal or a Socialist revolution.
There will need to be another New Deal or there will be a revolution well before that 50 year mark.
The people calling for a safety net and other changes are basically asking "Couldn't we try learning from history this time around?".
I used to be more liberal and appalled studying history on this. However, economist Milton Friedman was asked this question and you can youtube it in "Free to choose here.
Average incomes WENT UP during the industrial revolution.
The middle class was created. Sure there were crafters who were lower middle class that got hit. But conditions in famine strict Ireland, Poland, Italy, and Eastern Europe on farms WERE DEPLORABLE. Likewise poor farmers in China today are willing to work 16 hours a day for several months at a time and take money home to get ahead. Yes, it is a depressing life for us outsiders. But overall, the industrial revolution created wealth and increased the standards of living of many poor folks.
Pre industrial revolution you were upper class who owned land or a peasant starving. The middle was quite tiny.
You know there are some positions (not helpdesk sweatshops) that require under 100k a year? Your local system administrator, help desk tier II/III, and doctors, and college interns for those studying abroad.
A physician does not make more than 100K a year until well after residency which is 2 years long. These are jobs we need.
I favor a 25% salary increase over the average market value for the said position. This way it is scalable and if someone really can not find talent truly and are not just cheaping out with a shell company they can still hire.
Also there are lots of old odd things companies need in IT which no one has experience in where talent is stuff. Try apic datastores (pre SQL), cobol, etc.
The problem is all the big companies shit on the small and medium sized ones. Gee with the rampant corruption and unlimited campaign contributions just who do you think will get those lovely cheap workers?
Also many are Doctors and Engineering professionals and not just helpdesk sweatshops.
How the can smaller guy compete with the big houses then for projects at companies when they can offer the same service for 1/2 the price due to cheaper labor?
The solution is to charge 25% above the average market value by county which keeps statistics for job titles. Let's say that Sr Unix admin is worth $125,000 a year in San Jose? The H1B1 visa holder can do the job but by law has to pay $156,260. A Sr. Unix Admin in rural Texas is worth $70,000 a year? Hire an H1B1 Visa for $87,500.
The doctors can still come here with no limit. Since they are specialists mostly they already charge $250,000 a year so the extra cost won't prohibit hospitals from hiring these doctors which America desperately needs which I think most slashdotters agree is what the Visa program was originally for
We have a winner. Sorry Slashdot. Realistically you can't be all conservative and gong ho Libertarian like most all and so that is the market wage yada yada with other people's jobs including minimum wage hikes or automation stories with posts about increasing demands for robots..... then cry WANNA UNFAIR.
I am not saying I agree with this. But rather I want to state economic reality. If you put in artificial caps the market will respond appropriately and negatively. Our version of robots taking over is to give Phreej a root account and have him do the work in Bangalore.
I think this will surely bring more jobs overseas than protect them. Limits on H1B1 visas sure but 100k is quite excessive as not all IT jobs are frankly worth 100k. Yes someone needs to administer a database or do Active Directory infrastructure support and work. These are solid middle class jobs that are not super specialized anymore.
I maybe about to be modded -1 but if you ask any IT director or HR manager they will tell you good talent is very hard to find. No, I am not talking about a senior level position with a Jr level paid below market value.
I am talking about a freaking developer or System Administrator who is competent in NoSQL, Erlang, or any mobile platform development working for ANY WAGE. Sure one could argue that is a 100K job. I would argue some are most are not. A good Unix System Administrator where I am in Houston with 5+ years of experience is worth 70K a year. I looked it up on Dice which gathers its data from the Department of Labor. $150,000 a year??! Are you kidding me? Hell, we can offer up to $85,000 a year and still no one is qualified besides some paper MCSEs who tinker around with Ubuntu on a virtualbox at home who only do helpdesk tier I/II are the only candidates.
Should H1B1 Visas be abused? NO! But is 100k excessive? Yes, we can't find local talent who meet the requirements of SQL admin and Unix and NoSQL or those who actually have written commercial based ANdroid/IOS apps (no your freaking hello world or flashlight app doesn't count!)
MY brother works for a successful company which I won't name. It is fortune 250. HE goes to India because he too can't find anyone qualified. THe salaries he uses from HR are from his local Department of Labor. No he DOES NOT CHEAP out. He can't find anyone willing to work at least 25% over the market average in his area. He has no choice
You have one cloud program realize the business needs and use algorithms to optimize flow. That cloud program uses another cloud program to make the goods and delivery them.
No humans required other than how many widgets to make. You are not needed.
FYI Visual Basic became popular much to geeks laughing at it because programming is becoming more automated. You have a GUI to create another Gui for you. the user slaps the logic to pull from SQL and tada app done in just 1 hours WOW! They saved lots of money not hiring a programmer.
So yes you are already being impacted by IDE's and frameworks and once the cloud APIs kick in you can have one app tell another app what to do. Even routers you can configure with a website now as the cloud takes care of the scripts for you
The same arguments hit in the19th century. Factories were scary! The Barron's of wallstreet and CEOs ruled. Illegal immigrants from Ireland , China, and Italy were taking all the jobs. Professional box makers, clock makers, textile tailor jobs were all disappearing! It was the end??!
Or was it? It turns out without the industrial revolution we wouldn't have a modern lifestyle today. It sounds very similar to today. Replace ethnic groups and names of baron titans to ones today? Viola.
True you do not have housewives as rich tailors making shirts anymore. You do not see professional box makers nor time keepers (before alarm clocks they would knock on your window to get u up) anymore. But we have cars, cheap goods, and the migrants descendents are all middle to upper class now.
Goods will become cheaper as globalism expands these countries buy our stuff back as they enter middle class. Look at China? Japan was poor too. Now we make money off them. When the dust settles 50 years from now we all will be rich. Africa will be the last challenge. Everyone will be better off
Not to sound racist but we have plenty of Mexicans and other Latinos entering the US and Canada to do work white people feel is beneath them.
What will happen is regular people will live 6 to a home and pick vegatables, mow lawns, clean toilets, and wash dishes. That is a problem if you want an SUV, 1 million for retirement, and own a home though
Good luck. With 600 million out of work it would be logical to assume an 80 hour a week job with no benefits paying $15/hr is better than 0 an hour. If you don't do it the boss will find some other desperate worker who will. Another cost savings to give to the CEO and MBAs in the form of bonuses
Will they still be power hogs like that 220 watt behemoth currently in production?
According to AMD it will be 90 watts:-) FYI the i7 from Intel is 120 watts. Looks like AMD might be quite competitive if rumors are true for the first time since 2002
It is wrong to discriminate and something that women and even trans women put up with on a daily basis. Until you walked in these shoes you have no rights to talk. 30 years ago it was ok to do the same with gay people. Why are trans people any different than a homosexual?
Providing a service vs a currency is different. Yes a service generates money. Having a piece of paper called a dollar does not and goes down in value over time because of inflation.
My point is there is a big difference between investing and gambling. Sure McDonalds might not be doing well at hte present moment due to intense competition, but it generates consistent revenue from customers. You won't see the wild swings and historically has grown more than gold or other commodities. Even housing is going back up due to it collecting rent every month which is a great value. Do your bitcoins make money every month?
Here is the difference betting on Miami apartments or oil actually generates revenue in addition to being able to trade. Yes downs happen but one creates money consistently. Gold and bitcoins do not. Only if someone wants to buy it more than what you paid hoping the value can go up. Yes housing got hit by this too but the prices are going up again. Why? Even if the value goes down you can collect rent.
Gold is terrible and I am not a financial guru. Dave Ramsey has a point in investing in something that generates revenue is always a much better long term bet.
My boss loves Poker and Las Vegas and we have funny arguments on his so called 2nd job generating revenue. Sure you can win one good hand on a poker table but is this a wise long term investment?
To me it is not gambling as much per say if one does a return on investment. I got into a flamewar 5 ytears ago on shares with no dividends. I refuse to invest without a solid dividend because it is Monopoly money that someone MIGHT pay more for later. Hmm no thanks.
Try to store gold for your great grand children. Now try to store bitcoins for your future self within 20 years. Gold has been the default choice to protect your capital for thousands of years.
A share in a company historically has a much much better rate of return as a company actually provides value and creates wealth rather than speculators jerk the price up. Also if you bought gold lets say in 1890 the value even if it goes up is eaten away by inflation by the dollar.
True some companies go out of business but the majority do not after they make it to the stock market as a trade
That is not investing. That is hoarding betting on a disaster.
Investing to me is using that money to gain more money through a product or service. I could be wrong on this as Gold has performed terribly compared to housing or the S&P 500 which both make money by economic activity and not just speculation
Actually traditional businesses are doing quite well now. With a booming economy Home Depot and Disney are growing as they actually make money by providing a product or service.
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JavaScript has been accused of many things, but "threading" isn't one of them.
I don't mind blobs of callback in principle. Continuation-passing style doesn't scare me at all (especially in a language like Scheme or Haskell). But I agree with you. The more I used Node.JS, the more I realised I really wanted Erlang.
Yeah man. Erlang is the real rockstar language
Why can't you use nginx or something else to handle your async calls rather than write your own crappy one in JavaScript? I see no point of reinventing threading and other things when technology exists that do that for you so you can focus on other things.
From the same guy who wrote the funny mongodb webscale argument is his take on Rockstar node.js arguments.
So you see nothing wrong with blobs of callback after callback with making your own threading and scheduling from scratch?
Wouldn't it make sense to use nginx for performance and let that and your OS do the threading instead?
They need to match. For example if you lie on your taxes you can get in big trouble. By law corporations have to fill out the paperwork titles showing they tried but can get away by using fake job ads etc. My solution is get rid of the fake ads.
Charge a particular title and the department of labor ensures your company that you follow the description exactly and pay the extra money accordingly. This way we can hire people when a REAL shortage is in. Today they just use a contacting company as a loophole. I can be in favor of closing this too or heavily modifying that work around.
The problem is the untold suffering that happens for 30 of those 50 years. That's what a safety net is for.
We got the New Deal because the socialists were gaining support rapidly. It was New Deal or a Socialist revolution.
There will need to be another New Deal or there will be a revolution well before that 50 year mark.
The people calling for a safety net and other changes are basically asking "Couldn't we try learning from history this time around?".
I used to be more liberal and appalled studying history on this. However, economist Milton Friedman was asked this question and you can youtube it in "Free to choose here.
Average incomes WENT UP during the industrial revolution.
The middle class was created. Sure there were crafters who were lower middle class that got hit. But conditions in famine strict Ireland, Poland, Italy, and Eastern Europe on farms WERE DEPLORABLE. Likewise poor farmers in China today are willing to work 16 hours a day for several months at a time and take money home to get ahead. Yes, it is a depressing life for us outsiders. But overall, the industrial revolution created wealth and increased the standards of living of many poor folks.
Pre industrial revolution you were upper class who owned land or a peasant starving. The middle was quite tiny.
You know there are some positions (not helpdesk sweatshops) that require under 100k a year? Your local system administrator, help desk tier II/III, and doctors, and college interns for those studying abroad.
A physician does not make more than 100K a year until well after residency which is 2 years long. These are jobs we need.
I favor a 25% salary increase over the average market value for the said position. This way it is scalable and if someone really can not find talent truly and are not just cheaping out with a shell company they can still hire.
Also there are lots of old odd things companies need in IT which no one has experience in where talent is stuff. Try apic datastores (pre SQL), cobol, etc.
The problem is all the big companies shit on the small and medium sized ones. Gee with the rampant corruption and unlimited campaign contributions just who do you think will get those lovely cheap workers?
Also many are Doctors and Engineering professionals and not just helpdesk sweatshops.
How the can smaller guy compete with the big houses then for projects at companies when they can offer the same service for 1/2 the price due to cheaper labor?
The solution is to charge 25% above the average market value by county which keeps statistics for job titles. Let's say that Sr Unix admin is worth $125,000 a year in San Jose? The H1B1 visa holder can do the job but by law has to pay $156,260. A Sr. Unix Admin in rural Texas is worth $70,000 a year? Hire an H1B1 Visa for $87,500.
The doctors can still come here with no limit. Since they are specialists mostly they already charge $250,000 a year so the extra cost won't prohibit hospitals from hiring these doctors which America desperately needs which I think most slashdotters agree is what the Visa program was originally for
We have a winner. Sorry Slashdot. Realistically you can't be all conservative and gong ho Libertarian like most all and so that is the market wage yada yada with other people's jobs including minimum wage hikes or automation stories with posts about increasing demands for robots ..... then cry WANNA UNFAIR.
I am not saying I agree with this. But rather I want to state economic reality. If you put in artificial caps the market will respond appropriately and negatively. Our version of robots taking over is to give Phreej a root account and have him do the work in Bangalore.
I think this will surely bring more jobs overseas than protect them. Limits on H1B1 visas sure but 100k is quite excessive as not all IT jobs are frankly worth 100k. Yes someone needs to administer a database or do Active Directory infrastructure support and work. These are solid middle class jobs that are not super specialized anymore.
It is
I maybe about to be modded -1 but if you ask any IT director or HR manager they will tell you good talent is very hard to find. No, I am not talking about a senior level position with a Jr level paid below market value.
I am talking about a freaking developer or System Administrator who is competent in NoSQL, Erlang, or any mobile platform development working for ANY WAGE. Sure one could argue that is a 100K job. I would argue some are most are not. A good Unix System Administrator where I am in Houston with 5+ years of experience is worth 70K a year. I looked it up on Dice which gathers its data from the Department of Labor. $150,000 a year??! Are you kidding me? Hell, we can offer up to $85,000 a year and still no one is qualified besides some paper MCSEs who tinker around with Ubuntu on a virtualbox at home who only do helpdesk tier I/II are the only candidates.
Should H1B1 Visas be abused? NO! But is 100k excessive? Yes, we can't find local talent who meet the requirements of SQL admin and Unix and NoSQL or those who actually have written commercial based ANdroid/IOS apps (no your freaking hello world or flashlight app doesn't count!)
MY brother works for a successful company which I won't name. It is fortune 250. HE goes to India because he too can't find anyone qualified. THe salaries he uses from HR are from his local Department of Labor. No he DOES NOT CHEAP out. He can't find anyone willing to work at least 25% over the market average in his area. He has no choice
That problem will be solved.
You have one cloud program realize the business needs and use algorithms to optimize flow. That cloud program uses another cloud program to make the goods and delivery them.
No humans required other than how many widgets to make. You are not needed.
FYI Visual Basic became popular much to geeks laughing at it because programming is becoming more automated. You have a GUI to create another Gui for you. the user slaps the logic to pull from SQL and tada app done in just 1 hours WOW! They saved lots of money not hiring a programmer.
So yes you are already being impacted by IDE's and frameworks and once the cloud APIs kick in you can have one app tell another app what to do. Even routers you can configure with a website now as the cloud takes care of the scripts for you
The same arguments hit in the19th century. Factories were scary! The Barron's of wallstreet and CEOs ruled. Illegal immigrants from Ireland , China, and Italy were taking all the jobs. Professional box makers, clock makers, textile tailor jobs were all disappearing! It was the end??!
Or was it? It turns out without the industrial revolution we wouldn't have a modern lifestyle today. It sounds very similar to today. Replace ethnic groups and names of baron titans to ones today? Viola.
True you do not have housewives as rich tailors making shirts anymore. You do not see professional box makers nor time keepers (before alarm clocks they would knock on your window to get u up) anymore. But we have cars, cheap goods, and the migrants descendents are all middle to upper class now.
Goods will become cheaper as globalism expands these countries buy our stuff back as they enter middle class. Look at China? Japan was poor too. Now we make money off them. When the dust settles 50 years from now we all will be rich. Africa will be the last challenge. Everyone will be better off
Not to sound racist but we have plenty of Mexicans and other Latinos entering the US and Canada to do work white people feel is beneath them.
What will happen is regular people will live 6 to a home and pick vegatables, mow lawns, clean toilets, and wash dishes. That is a problem if you want an SUV, 1 million for retirement, and own a home though
Good luck. With 600 million out of work it would be logical to assume an 80 hour a week job with no benefits paying $15/hr is better than 0 an hour. If you don't do it the boss will find some other desperate worker who will. Another cost savings to give to the CEO and MBAs in the form of bonuses
Foxit comes with malware which installs toolbars. It's worse than Adobe
Will they still be power hogs like that 220 watt behemoth currently in production?
According to AMD it will be 90 watts :-) FYI the i7 from Intel is 120 watts. Looks like AMD might be quite competitive if rumors are true for the first time since 2002
You sir are an asshole.
It is wrong to discriminate and something that women and even trans women put up with on a daily basis. Until you walked in these shoes you have no rights to talk. 30 years ago it was ok to do the same with gay people. Why are trans people any different than a homosexual?
Sorry both PcBSD and TrueOS have e been terrible versions of Freebsd. Buggy as hell and TrueOS broke Freebsd standstands
What is so inferior go pkg install or /usr/ports?
We dont't want kfreebsd. Freebsd is more i integrated, Works just fine and is more tested. We don't want beta quality software
Providing a service vs a currency is different. Yes a service generates money. Having a piece of paper called a dollar does not and goes down in value over time because of inflation.
My point is there is a big difference between investing and gambling. Sure McDonalds might not be doing well at hte present moment due to intense competition, but it generates consistent revenue from customers. You won't see the wild swings and historically has grown more than gold or other commodities. Even housing is going back up due to it collecting rent every month which is a great value. Do your bitcoins make money every month?
Here is the difference betting on Miami apartments or oil actually generates revenue in addition to being able to trade. Yes downs happen but one creates money consistently. Gold and bitcoins do not. Only if someone wants to buy it more than what you paid hoping the value can go up. Yes housing got hit by this too but the prices are going up again. Why? Even if the value goes down you can collect rent.
Gold is terrible and I am not a financial guru. Dave Ramsey has a point in investing in something that generates revenue is always a much better long term bet.
My boss loves Poker and Las Vegas and we have funny arguments on his so called 2nd job generating revenue. Sure you can win one good hand on a poker table but is this a wise long term investment?
To me it is not gambling as much per say if one does a return on investment. I got into a flamewar 5 ytears ago on shares with no dividends. I refuse to invest without a solid dividend because it is Monopoly money that someone MIGHT pay more for later. Hmm no thanks.
Try to store gold for your great grand children. Now try to store bitcoins for your future self within 20 years. Gold has been the default choice to protect your capital for thousands of years.
A share in a company historically has a much much better rate of return as a company actually provides value and creates wealth rather than speculators jerk the price up. Also if you bought gold lets say in 1890 the value even if it goes up is eaten away by inflation by the dollar.
True some companies go out of business but the majority do not after they make it to the stock market as a trade
The phrase "getting laid" originated from the phrase "laid to rest". Attempting to "impress the ladies" can be fatal.
Is that an apt-get command?
It's more than that. Investing in a currency is investing in the economy that denominates its activities in that currency.
Man you people are as stupid as fuck.
Right so that means inflation which decreases the value in said currency.
That is not investing. That is hoarding betting on a disaster.
Investing to me is using that money to gain more money through a product or service. I could be wrong on this as Gold has performed terribly compared to housing or the S&P 500 which both make money by economic activity and not just speculation
Actually traditional businesses are doing quite well now. With a booming economy Home Depot and Disney are growing as they actually make money by providing a product or service.