Gee, considering the Liberal or the PC's form(ed) the majority of the governments, both federal and provincial, in Canada for the past 133 years and the Alliance/Reform/Libertarians/Comunists/Marxists-Le ninists/Marijuana/Christian Reform et al HAVE/DO NOT, I think I can safely say I speak for most Canadians. I dare say you would have trouble finding Canadians outside Ralph Klien's cabinet (hey wasn't Stockwell Day one of his ministers?) who support a US style health care system - check www.cbc.ca for the latest poll results if you don't beleive me (not just about who people want to vote for but what they consider the most important issue - SAVING our healthcare system).
As for "Facists, Fundementalists, Extremists" comments I have made, well, I just have to say that any party that Doug Christie (the neo-Nazi lawyer - Facist)supports, whose leader is got into politics because he started up his own fundementalist Christian school and loves to tell people how he's against abortion (read -fundementalist) and has candidates the likes of Brian Fitzpatrick and Betty Granger (both spewing ignorant, racist comments during an election - not only extremists but stupid extremists) running for it qualifies as all of the above and deserves any derision heaped on it by Canadians.
I don't need to be 'spoon fed' anything to know that this is wrong. And I will stand by my ideals when I state that sometimes free, universal healthcare, safe streets and fighting poverty is more important to me than an extra $200 on my paycheck because of some idiot 'tax cut' (which I will end up spending 3 fold on user fees and service charges).
If you talk like a duck, walk like a duck and look like a duck, chances are, your a duck.
At least we will be able to GET mail (or medical service). We won't be turned away from the ISP because we haven't been able to afford $400 US per month for "insurance" for my family (an accurate quote from my sister living in Arkansas for HMO coverage or what every you call your for profit medical system).
Sometimes pure capitalism and pure socialism(communism) is NOT the answer...there is a "third way" and we practice it. As does Norway, Sweden and a great many other countries in the world....just because it's not the "make as much profit as you can and people be damned" American way doesn't mean it's wrong.
Give up Aurthur, the Facist Alliance Party of Canada is not going to win. Most Canadians don't hold your Ultra-libertarian, Ayn Rand-esque views. I guess most of us ARE "socialists" (which explains why the NDP has formed sooo many national governments!!). I also sumise this is whu Canada has been voted "the best country in the world to live in" for about 7 of the last 10 years.
If you don't like it, don't live here. Stay in the States. We don't want you anyway!!
Comapre sapples with apples my American friend...that's $50 Canadian. That's about $33 US.
My Rogers@home costs me $36 Canadian (about $24 US) because I also happened to be one of their cable subscribers. The average price for DSL/cable internet is around $35-40 Canadian (as advertised in most of the local computer newspapers here in Ottawa).
Actually the French are #3 tied with Britain in the nuke power race - behind USA and Russia (former USSR) and they seem to have no qualms about "testing" in the south pacific so be careful, yank....
Yes the ICON...actually I used it in high school back in 83 so it's closewr to 20 years old. And your also right about the whole 3com thing...my buddy is one of there head engineers in Kanata and he would be very surprised to find out that 3dom owns them...
I agree. but those days of really broadband networks may be a little closer. Nortel has a new optical switch which is 100X faster than the fastest currently available. Jason Lanier (sp?) spoke at the unvieling of the "fridge" and said it could be a big help in web enabled 3d and real-time virtually reality.
But that big switch is probably 4-5 years away from common usage.
BTW, I know about it because my brother-in-law hold a wack of patents on it.
I think we need more than just marketing to drive the need for web based 3d - how about some really usefull applications of a 3d UI?
I'm using the Java plugin 1.3 and Java on build 2000080712 under NT 4.0 right now and it works just fine....I haven't tried it under Linux so I don't know if its a porting issue.
We each pick a book and memorize it. Then, we recite it to anyone who wants the information. As we grow older, we teach our children our book(s) and they teach their children...and so on. The information is always available and free, since even the government can't "password protect" your memory (short of using a bullet).
I have a friend named Sontag who is very interested in this...he works for those who put the DMCA into action and now he's having second thoughts...
Once I thought Ray Bradbury was a little out of touch...not so much now.
BTW, just what is the ignition point of an e-book file?
Wow, what a lot of whining here by the "java is too slow" crowd.
The right tool for the job. Look at what you need to do. Look into ways to do it. Choose the way that is right for your situation. If that means using Java on Linux great! If it means ASP on NT, fine (insert anti-MS statement here).
I'm currently using the 1.3 Java 2 SDK on an NT box for some development we are doing. The data access(JDBC) and networking (Servlets) works great - quite zippy, at least for our needs. The client (a custom applet) renders a little slow but we accept some slow rendering speed in order to get the peculiar UI our client wants (a round component with buttons that are pie wedges a la Trivial Pursuit pieces each one of which pops up a dynamically created menu with database data in it). We choose java because it was one of the few languages which allowed us to do all these disparate programming chores and keep the code clean and maintainable. We went from zero to prototype in 5 days.
Now I'm sure we could have done this in a number of different ways (although we couldn't figure any others).
The story was about how much the IBM JDK for Linux has improved in terms of speed, how it's almost ready to do graphic intensive stuff like desktop apps and such. If you really need that couple of extra milliseconds, use something else. Just stop whining about it.
I personally don't like perl (my own opinion) but I don't go around slagging it - for some things its probably the best tool for the job.
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Let me see If I got this right...don't use Java (pure OO), use Pascal (Delphi by any other name...). And you're telling ME to grow up?
Try going below to read some of the other, more well thought out comments before you spout idiotic nonsense.
Would I use java to create a graphic-intensive, Windows only exe? No that's not what the tool is for. Would I use it to create a thread-safe, cross-platform networked servlet? Now your talking.
About 10-15 years ago many people were saying the same thing about some upstart, slow, bloated language called C++. I guess we know what happened to that.
I agree with a lot of your points but your Ralph Nader analogy needs some clarification. Nader did what he did because of a genuine concern for safety. His entire purpose was to get these things fixed. Script Kiddies do not do it for this reason...they do it because they can, because they can impress their friends with their cut-and-paste coding abilities (see this site for what I mean).
But the reason they CAN do it is because of shoddy design or implementation of software by designers and sysadmins. I would rather have everyone know about a buffer overflow problem in sendmail or a DNS exploit than only the black hats. Sometimes sysadmins and designers aren't aware of problems and a "grey hat" who creates a cut-and-paste exploit program makes them aware rather quick. This give impetous to fix it. For instance, if I found out that every 3rd key in my town could open my back door, I would be concerned. I might have to fix that someday, in case anyone finds out. If I found out that someone published this information in the local paper and was giving away a machine to cut those keys, I would have my locks changed NOW.
And I would test my lock better.
And I would demand a new lock design so this could not happen again.
And I would make sure, possibly by lawsuit, that the lock maker doesn't continue selling that particular lock.
How long do you think MS or some engineer that worked for them knew something like Melissa or ILOVEYOU was possible but didn't bother to fix it until it happened. How long were the other holes around and used by black hats before they were uncoved and "published" by the grey hats?
Qt is native C++. For those of us who want a good C++ toolkit, this is much better than some terrible C++ wrapper of a C toolkit (and faster as well). Personally I don't like C programming and much prefer C++/Java. Thus I use Qt. If you want to use C, use GTK+.
Down on the farm, we call that having a choice and that is a good thing.
Human eye - random series of mutations where by NATURAL SELECTION, those creatures with bad or no eysight were eaten by creatures with it, thus leaving only sighted creatures to reproduce (more sighted creaures)
Human soul - I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt that it exists. Electromagnetic energy stored in our brains and nervous systems. These are the the 3D representations (shadows if you will) of our multi-dimensional bodies from 4th-7th dimensions existing only 1 mm away (see string and M-theory).
My ideas are just about as provable as yours. The eye thing is absolutly proveable.
As for observing evloution, try microbes. I generation of human life can be millions for a bacteria - plenty of time to observe evolution.
BTW can you suck your testicles up into your body cavity at will? The ancient Romans could. But since it no longer serves a purpose, the ability has been "bred out" of humans (as is the ability to wiggle you ears) so that today, almost no one can do it.
That sound suspiciously like evolution to me.
I'd rather be decended from a Bonobo or Chimp than be created by a God which says its ok to kill someone who doesn't believe in him/her the "right way" - see Northern Ireland, Isreal, Iran, the Crusades, the Inquisition etc all done in the name of God.
Well, read it or not, this reporter, or you or I cannot be compelled to testify to the truth of anything. As a former Journalism student, I am quite aware that, in Canada at least, there is a presumption that the news is true. It is only false when it is proved false. This is just like the presumption of innocence - I don't have to do or say anything on my own behalf, since it is up to my accusors to prove my guilt.
What is the point? If this story is true, getting the report to testify that it is true will be redundant and not prove anything. If it is false, he will testify that it is true to save his job and possibly his bottom line(you can have your arse sued off for knowingly reporting false news - ask that Washington Post Reporter who won the Pulitzer prize for a story about a drug addicted 9 year old that she just made up).
The only reason they want him in to testify about anything is to try to get him to reveal his sources. In that case, he is doing absolutely the right thing.
If this guy has to reveal who "Slut Puppy" et al are then Woodward and Berstien would have to reveal who Deep Throat is...
And when you go for that MRI you'd better hope that the hospital recognizes your insurance, or that you have enough insurance, or that going to the hospital won't raise your premiums or that the MRI is even covered by your insurance...because you know they will take care of business before you get treated. I'd rather wait a little longer and be able to get medical procedures just by showing my little green and white card (OHIP). And get treatment because I need it not because I can afford it.
I once paid $1000(Can - about $600 US) for 5 stitches in Boston. In Toronto I may have had to wait an extra hour but it would have cost $0(Can - about $0 US).
BTW MRI patients in Toronto are being sent to Buffalo on OHIP and are getting treament.
If you don't like Canada, move...no one will miss you.
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Gee, considering the Liberal or the PC's form(ed) the majority of the governments, both federal and provincial, in Canada for the past 133 years and the Alliance/Reform/Libertarians/Comunists/Marxists-Le ninists/Marijuana/Christian Reform et al HAVE/DO NOT, I think I can safely say I speak for most Canadians. I dare say you would have trouble finding Canadians outside Ralph Klien's cabinet (hey wasn't Stockwell Day one of his ministers?) who support a US style health care system - check www.cbc.ca for the latest poll results if you don't beleive me (not just about who people want to vote for but what they consider the most important issue - SAVING our healthcare system).
As for "Facists, Fundementalists, Extremists" comments I have made, well, I just have to say that any party that Doug Christie (the neo-Nazi lawyer - Facist)supports, whose leader is got into politics because he started up his own fundementalist Christian school and loves to tell people how he's against abortion (read -fundementalist) and has candidates the likes of Brian Fitzpatrick and Betty Granger (both spewing ignorant, racist comments during an election - not only extremists but stupid extremists) running for it qualifies as all of the above and deserves any derision heaped on it by Canadians.
I don't need to be 'spoon fed' anything to know that this is wrong. And I will stand by my ideals when I state that sometimes free, universal healthcare, safe streets and fighting poverty is more important to me than an extra $200 on my paycheck because of some idiot 'tax cut' (which I will end up spending 3 fold on user fees and service charges).
If you talk like a duck, walk like a duck and look like a duck, chances are, your a duck.
READ MY SIG:
At least we will be able to GET mail (or medical service). We won't be turned away from the ISP because we haven't been able to afford $400 US per month for "insurance" for my family (an accurate quote from my sister living in Arkansas for HMO coverage or what every you call your for profit medical system).
Sometimes pure capitalism and pure socialism(communism) is NOT the answer...there is a "third way" and we practice it. As does Norway, Sweden and a great many other countries in the world....just because it's not the "make as much profit as you can and people be damned" American way doesn't mean it's wrong.
Give up Aurthur, the Facist Alliance Party of Canada is not going to win. Most Canadians don't hold your Ultra-libertarian, Ayn Rand-esque views. I guess most of us ARE "socialists" (which explains why the NDP has formed sooo many national governments!!). I also sumise this is whu Canada has been voted "the best country in the world to live in" for about 7 of the last 10 years.
If you don't like it, don't live here. Stay in the States. We don't want you anyway!!
Comapre sapples with apples my American friend...that's $50 Canadian. That's about $33 US.
My Rogers@home costs me $36 Canadian (about $24 US) because I also happened to be one of their cable subscribers. The average price for DSL/cable internet is around $35-40 Canadian (as advertised in most of the local computer newspapers here in Ottawa).
Sounds pretty cheap to me.
Actually the French are #3 tied with Britain in the nuke power race - behind USA and Russia (former USSR) and they seem to have no qualms about "testing" in the south pacific so be careful, yank....
"Too much time on my hands....
I've got too much time on my hands...."
Sheesh.
wtf?
I think if if you weere one of the people on the "road of death" you may beg to differ with that "exceptionally low casualties" comment....
Gee Ron, do you think you may have just found your man?
Yes the ICON...actually I used it in high school back in 83 so it's closewr to 20 years old. And your also right about the whole 3com thing...my buddy is one of there head engineers in Kanata and he would be very surprised to find out that 3dom owns them...
I agree. but those days of really broadband networks may be a little closer. Nortel has a new optical switch which is 100X faster than the fastest currently available. Jason Lanier (sp?) spoke at the unvieling of the "fridge" and said it could be a big help in web enabled 3d and real-time virtually reality.
But that big switch is probably 4-5 years away from common usage.
BTW, I know about it because my brother-in-law hold a wack of patents on it.
I think we need more than just marketing to drive the need for web based 3d - how about some really usefull applications of a 3d UI?
I'm using the Java plugin 1.3 and Java on build 2000080712 under NT 4.0 right now and it works just fine....I haven't tried it under Linux so I don't know if its a porting issue.
I'm running the same thing on an NT 4.0 box with a footprint of 34300k. Perhaps you should re-examine your machine....
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Of course you mean:
..just being a nit picker - it's still a humerous post)
glColor3f( 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 );
and not
glColor3f( 0, 0, 0 );
After all the 'f' does stand for float... (he he he
As long as they doi quietly...no poetry...please, no Vogon poetry...
We each pick a book and memorize it. Then, we recite it to anyone who wants the information. As we grow older, we teach our children our book(s) and they teach their children...and so on. The information is always available and free, since even the government can't "password protect" your memory (short of using a bullet).
I have a friend named Sontag who is very interested in this...he works for those who put the DMCA into action and now he's having second thoughts...
Once I thought Ray Bradbury was a little out of touch...not so much now.
BTW, just what is the ignition point of an e-book file?
Wow, what a lot of whining here by the "java is too slow" crowd.
The right tool for the job. Look at what you need to do. Look into ways to do it. Choose the way that is right for your situation. If that means using Java on Linux great! If it means ASP on NT, fine (insert anti-MS statement here).
I'm currently using the 1.3 Java 2 SDK on an NT box for some development we are doing. The data access(JDBC) and networking (Servlets) works great - quite zippy, at least for our needs. The client (a custom applet) renders a little slow but we accept some slow rendering speed in order to get the peculiar UI our client wants (a round component with buttons that are pie wedges a la Trivial Pursuit pieces each one of which pops up a dynamically created menu with database data in it). We choose java because it was one of the few languages which allowed us to do all these disparate programming chores and keep the code clean and maintainable. We went from zero to prototype in 5 days.
Now I'm sure we could have done this in a number of different ways (although we couldn't figure any others).
The story was about how much the IBM JDK for Linux has improved in terms of speed, how it's almost ready to do graphic intensive stuff like desktop apps and such. If you really need that couple of extra milliseconds, use something else. Just stop whining about it.
I personally don't like perl (my own opinion) but I don't go around slagging it - for some things its probably the best tool for the job.
Let me see If I got this right...don't use Java (pure OO), use Pascal (Delphi by any other name...). And you're telling ME to grow up?
Try going below to read some of the other, more well thought out comments before you spout idiotic nonsense.
Would I use java to create a graphic-intensive, Windows only exe? No that's not what the tool is for. Would I use it to create a thread-safe, cross-platform networked servlet? Now your talking.
About 10-15 years ago many people were saying the same thing about some upstart, slow, bloated language called C++. I guess we know what happened to that.
I agree with a lot of your points but your Ralph Nader analogy needs some clarification. Nader did what he did because of a genuine concern for safety. His entire purpose was to get these things fixed. Script Kiddies do not do it for this reason...they do it because they can, because they can impress their friends with their cut-and-paste
coding abilities (see this site for what I mean).
But the reason they CAN do it is because of shoddy design or implementation of software by designers and sysadmins. I would rather have everyone know about a buffer overflow problem in sendmail or a DNS exploit than only the black hats. Sometimes sysadmins and designers aren't aware of problems and a "grey hat" who creates a cut-and-paste exploit program makes them aware rather quick. This give impetous to fix it.
For instance, if I found out that every 3rd key in my town could open my back door, I would be concerned. I might have to fix that someday, in case anyone finds out. If I found out that someone published this information in the local paper and was giving away a machine to cut those keys, I would have my locks changed NOW.
And I would test my lock better.
And I would demand a new lock design so this could not happen again.
And I would make sure, possibly by lawsuit, that the lock maker doesn't continue selling that particular lock.
How long do you think MS or some engineer that worked for them knew something like Melissa or ILOVEYOU was possible but didn't bother to fix it until it happened. How long were the other holes around and used by black hats before they were uncoved and "published" by the grey hats?
Makes you wonder...
Qt is native C++. For those of us who want a good C++ toolkit, this is much better than some terrible C++ wrapper of a C toolkit (and faster as well). Personally I don't like C programming and much prefer C++/Java. Thus I use Qt. If you want to use C, use GTK+.
Down on the farm, we call that having a choice and that is a good thing.
Hey man, I can troll too....hehe
Human eye - random series of mutations where by NATURAL SELECTION, those creatures with bad or no eysight were eaten by creatures with it, thus leaving only sighted creatures to reproduce (more sighted creaures)
Human soul - I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt that it exists. Electromagnetic energy stored in our brains and nervous systems. These are the the 3D representations (shadows if you will) of our multi-dimensional bodies from 4th-7th dimensions existing only 1 mm away (see string and M-theory).
My ideas are just about as provable as yours. The eye thing is absolutly proveable.
As for observing evloution, try microbes. I generation of human life can be millions for a bacteria - plenty of time to observe evolution.
BTW can you suck your testicles up into your body cavity at will? The ancient Romans could. But since it no longer serves a purpose, the ability has been "bred out" of humans (as is the ability to wiggle you ears) so that today, almost no one can do it.
That sound suspiciously like evolution to me.
I'd rather be decended from a Bonobo or Chimp than be created by a God which says its ok to kill someone who doesn't believe in him/her the "right way" - see Northern Ireland, Isreal, Iran, the Crusades, the Inquisition etc all done in the name of God.
Well, read it or not, this reporter, or you or I cannot be compelled to testify to the truth of anything. As a former Journalism student, I am quite aware that, in Canada at least, there is a presumption that the news is true. It is only false when it is proved false. This is just like the presumption of innocence - I don't have to do or say anything on my own behalf, since it is up to my accusors to prove my guilt.
What is the point? If this story is true, getting the report to testify that it is true will be redundant and not prove anything. If it is false, he will testify that it is true to save his job and possibly his bottom line(you can have your arse sued off for knowingly reporting false news - ask that Washington Post Reporter who won the Pulitzer prize for a story about a drug addicted 9 year old that she just made up).
The only reason they want him in to testify about anything is to try to get him to reveal his sources. In that case, he is doing absolutely the right thing.
If this guy has to reveal who "Slut Puppy" et al are then Woodward and Berstien would have to reveal who Deep Throat is...
Toronto is hardly freezing, even in January.
And when you go for that MRI you'd better hope that the hospital recognizes your insurance, or that you have enough insurance, or that going to the hospital won't raise your premiums or that the MRI is even covered by your insurance...because you know they will take care of business before you get treated. I'd rather wait a little longer and be able to get medical procedures just by showing my little green and white card (OHIP). And get treatment because I need it not because I can afford it.
I once paid $1000(Can - about $600 US) for 5 stitches in Boston. In Toronto I may have had to wait an extra hour but it would have cost $0(Can - about $0 US).
BTW MRI patients in Toronto are being sent to Buffalo on OHIP and are getting treament.
If you don't like Canada, move...no one will miss you.