That's not offtopic! (Not within this thread atleast!) He is damn right. We'd rather have the UK out of it. Denmark and Sweden are others that I'd like to see kicked (they spit on the Euro), but the UK is the one that always makes trouble within the EU.
And all modern, democratized nations that aren't named Luxembourg have sucky economies compared to the US
Funny that you mention Luxembourg in a thread essentially about broadband services. Yeah, our economy is good, but don't kid you, it isn't as good as 2 years ago.
Anyways, about broadband in Luxembourg:
DSL: One company: P&T Luxembourg (majorly state owned), but multiple ISP's. DSL started appearing about 2 years ago and we (my family) were one of the first to jump on it. Having over 100Euro/month phonecalls on our ISDN line for internet made the decision not hard at all. However it costs as much as 90Euro/month for a measily 256kbps downstream and 64kbps upstream. Variation in price can only be archieved by switching ISP, and that's in the range of max 5 to 10 euro per month. For all fairness, in the total 90Euro/month is your phone subscription included.
Noteworthy details: ports under 1024 are not blocked and running NAT is encouraged. Linux not officially supported, but a howto and drivers are provided. Also the 64kbps upstream limit doesn't seem to be enforced.
Cable: I don't have internet over cable, but what I know is that we have two cable companies. One that controls the North and one that controls the South (yeah, I know, very strange to talk about north and sound if the country is only 87km accross). I've started to see ads for the cable-internet service, for about the last 2 months. Just looking at the website covering the north of the country ( Eltrona ) Oh, jolly, only 256kbps/64kbps too! And it also goes over the P&T! 62Euro/month...
Compared to the neighbouring countries, Luxembourg only gets the low end of the "broadband". (Heck I was happy for 5 years with ISDN). The only reason to go ADSL for me is that I can run my own server. That rocks, and that's something that's not possible in the neighbouring countries (post lower than 1024 are usually blocked), unless you pay for a business DSL.
Apart from the expense of living in Luxembourg, it is indeed a great country!
The whole trouble is that I tried to recompile the kernel on Slackware 8.1. It still didn't detect my setup. The Tyan Typer MPX motherboard might just not be supported...
How's the SMP support in Gentoo nowadays? I just can't seem to get SMP running on my Dual Atlon MP box on anything else than Windows 2000 (to my greater shame)
I understand what he means. I've been trying to do what he describes with the bare bones distributions like Debian and Slackware. I didn't succeed by now.
This is probably linked to my own incompetence and not to the fact that it isn't feasible.
It's called colonialism.
Back in the day, the colonists "brought a new religion and civilization to the heathens in Africa"... and exploited the natural resources.
Now The United Corporations of America goes and "liberates the Iraqi from despotism in order to instore a democracy"... and exploit the natural resources.
Nothing changed, just the name and the countries doing it.
Tried the link with my Mac. IE shows the broken pic image, Moz just an error. I looked at the VB script that the AC posted. Uhm, I dunno...but that sounds like a rather annoying security hole for IE.
Not going to try with my Win machine, thank you very much...
You're funny. Yes, indeed... He's a marketer, not one of us. He still is a nice guy. Contrary to common thought around here, not everyone is tech-inclined. He thinks that flash is nifty and that's about his level of tech-knowlegde.
I once had to explain to him what a database was. He thought of it just as an excel file. I'm pretty sure you have encountered such users.
I once worked for a bank where I had to write an ebanking application. Of course, you get marketers on your back then. (The ebanking thing is after all something a client will get to see) I think I had to explain her about 20 times that the colour on a computer screen is not fixed and that everyone will have a different redition of it. Still she insisted on changing the colour of and image by 2 values of red (you know, from red:245 to red:243...)
I only get spams for Norton Antivirus, and I'm pretty sure it's not Norton behind it. Why would any company associate with spam? It makes them look bad.
Sure you didn't opt in while buying on of their products? Opt-in is not spam, annoying, but not spam.
SPAM makes Marketers look bad. I know people around here have no love for marketers at all, but I'm going to show you they are not all bad. My best friend *is* a marketer and I'm an IT guy. (He works for Panda Software , just to advertise a bit for them)
Anyways, when I told him about practices that spammers use like reselling email lists, scavenging webpages for emails, etc... He was outraged. Yes, you read that right. It just went completely against ethics for him, because that is not what they teached him at the business school.
He even got more outraged when I explained him what spyware is, but that is another can of worms.
Essentially, SPAM and Spyware is what the "real" marketers look bad. They're just the scum of the industry.
POP3 is good enough for me, don't worry. Are you by any chance an ISP? I mean, if you are, you don't fit in my description of "internal business network".
How do you backup you email? All clients configged with "don't delete on server"? (That's what I do)
Good you mention that one... I run my own small email server on a nice little obsolete Pentium 166 for my family. I wanted to centralize where the email is stored (easier to backup), so I opted for IMAP.
I did that for about one day, then I switched back to POP3. Why? My server couldn't handle it. I think the main bottleneck was the network, but CPU usage was higher too if I recall correctly. Well, my internal network was 10Mbps back then (now 100Mbps).
So, I still use POP3... Apart from that, most companies I know use IMAP. Never seen any company that used POP3 internally. (What does Lotus Notes use? That one is widely deployed too)
According to my girlfriend, I quote, "a girl always needs a new pair of black schoes". So, as far as I can analyze that statement: a girl needs a infinite pair of black schoes.
Nope, don't understand it.... but then she laughs at my poor fashion sense.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. Yet, I still think I am mistaken about the ID card. It probably is not standardized and I probably just assumed because the ones I saw look so similar.
So the ID card is not common or standardized, yet you still need one to travel around the schengen zone. As said before, I'd wish we kick the UK out of the EU anyway. Denmark and Sweden are next on my list of undesirable countries in the EU... guess why?
My debet card has had a chip for years. My VISA is still magnetic only and I got a new one last month.
The problem is that VISA has to work worldwide, so it has to work in the US, so it cannot be based on smartcard technology.
Besides, ever gone to the US? They look weird at you if you tell them you only have one credit card. I've never needed more than one, and I've never had credit card debt. I've heard stories of people that went to the US with one creditcard, checked into the hotel and the hotel blocked the card in order to be sure to get payment. After that, your credit card was useless, so you needed more than one. Never happened to me, luckily.
I mostly agree, if you mean "personal data" == "documents you produced yourself" like spreadsheets, word processor files etc. However, give a digicam to any modern user and your diskspace is *gone*. Same with MP3, and luckily DivX isn't mainstream yet. (mainstream as in "non-geeks use is dayly").
However, there is a need in 2G-4G drives. Mainly in the corporate market. I've got this nice new Dell workstation at work for development and to my suprise I noticed it had a 8Gig harddisk. We're supposed to store our stuff on the network so, basically it only has apps and the OS on it. My question was: where the *cencored* did they get these small disks. Well, I just launched the disk administration and fair enough: 40Gig disk, with 8Gig partition. A complete waste.
If more UK citizens were like you, I'd like to revoke my statement at once. Unfortunatly, most UK citizens don't think so positively about Europe as you do.
It depends... I have been stopped by the police in Belgium because a 21 year old in a luxury car with foreign license plate is suspicious.
I understand that, especially since the license plate I have is often misused for tax-evasion in Belgium.
Anyways, I just had to show my drivers license and the car papers. After that the friendly police officer just gave me my stuff back and wished me a nice day.
These guys are doing their job... it is understandable. Belgium is *not* a police state as many people around here seem to think.
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That's not offtopic! (Not within this thread atleast!) He is damn right. We'd rather have the UK out of it. Denmark and Sweden are others that I'd like to see kicked (they spit on the Euro), but the UK is the one that always makes trouble within the EU.
Funny that you mention Luxembourg in a thread essentially about broadband services. Yeah, our economy is good, but don't kid you, it isn't as good as 2 years ago.
Anyways, about broadband in Luxembourg:
- DSL: One company: P&T Luxembourg (majorly state owned), but multiple ISP's. DSL started appearing about 2 years ago and we (my family) were one of the first to jump on it. Having over 100Euro/month phonecalls on our ISDN line for internet made the decision not hard at all. However it costs as much as 90Euro/month for a measily 256kbps downstream and 64kbps upstream. Variation in price can only be archieved by switching ISP, and that's in the range of max 5 to 10 euro per month. For all fairness, in the total 90Euro/month is your phone subscription included.
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Cable: I don't have internet over cable, but what I know is that we have two cable companies. One that controls the North and one that controls the South (yeah, I know, very strange to talk about north and sound if the country is only 87km accross). I've started to see ads for the cable-internet service, for about the last 2 months. Just looking at the website covering the north of the country ( Eltrona ) Oh, jolly, only 256kbps/64kbps too! And it also goes over the P&T! 62Euro/month...
Compared to the neighbouring countries, Luxembourg only gets the low end of the "broadband". (Heck I was happy for 5 years with ISDN). The only reason to go ADSL for me is that I can run my own server. That rocks, and that's something that's not possible in the neighbouring countries (post lower than 1024 are usually blocked), unless you pay for a business DSL.Noteworthy details: ports under 1024 are not blocked and running NAT is encouraged. Linux not officially supported, but a howto and drivers are provided. Also the 64kbps upstream limit doesn't seem to be enforced.
Apart from the expense of living in Luxembourg, it is indeed a great country!
I know... I told my kernel to be SMP... Yet, after compile and boot, my /proc/cpuinfo still gives one CPU. :-(((
The whole trouble is that I tried to recompile the kernel on Slackware 8.1. It still didn't detect my setup. The Tyan Typer MPX motherboard might just not be supported...
How's the SMP support in Gentoo nowadays? I just can't seem to get SMP running on my Dual Atlon MP box on anything else than Windows 2000 (to my greater shame)
This is probably linked to my own incompetence and not to the fact that it isn't feasible.
Back in the day, the colonists "brought a new religion and civilization to the heathens in Africa"... and exploited the natural resources.
Now The United Corporations of America goes and "liberates the Iraqi from despotism in order to instore a democracy"... and exploit the natural resources.
Nothing changed, just the name and the countries doing it.
Sorry.... I didn't know who Johnny Canuck was. Thanks god there is google for such things.
Did I already mention that you americans are in deep shit ;-)
Nice babe by the way. Wouldn't try to mess with her though....
Neal Stephenson might just get a Cease and Desist Order from Sierra or Ken Williams ;-)
Tried the link with my Mac. IE shows the broken pic image, Moz just an error. I looked at the VB script that the AC posted. Uhm, I dunno...but that sounds like a rather annoying security hole for IE.
Not going to try with my Win machine, thank you very much...
I once had to explain to him what a database was. He thought of it just as an excel file. I'm pretty sure you have encountered such users.
I once worked for a bank where I had to write an ebanking application. Of course, you get marketers on your back then. (The ebanking thing is after all something a client will get to see) I think I had to explain her about 20 times that the colour on a computer screen is not fixed and that everyone will have a different redition of it. Still she insisted on changing the colour of and image by 2 values of red (you know, from red:245 to red:243...)
I only get spams for Norton Antivirus, and I'm pretty sure it's not Norton behind it. Why would any company associate with spam? It makes them look bad.
Sure you didn't opt in while buying on of their products? Opt-in is not spam, annoying, but not spam.
Anyways, when I told him about practices that spammers use like reselling email lists, scavenging webpages for emails, etc... He was outraged. Yes, you read that right. It just went completely against ethics for him, because that is not what they teached him at the business school.
He even got more outraged when I explained him what spyware is, but that is another can of worms.
Essentially, SPAM and Spyware is what the "real" marketers look bad. They're just the scum of the industry.
How do you backup you email? All clients configged with "don't delete on server"? (That's what I do)
I did that for about one day, then I switched back to POP3. Why? My server couldn't handle it. I think the main bottleneck was the network, but CPU usage was higher too if I recall correctly. Well, my internal network was 10Mbps back then (now 100Mbps).
So, I still use POP3... Apart from that, most companies I know use IMAP. Never seen any company that used POP3 internally. (What does Lotus Notes use? That one is widely deployed too)
Nope, don't understand it.... but then she laughs at my poor fashion sense.
So the ID card is not common or standardized, yet you still need one to travel around the schengen zone. As said before, I'd wish we kick the UK out of the EU anyway. Denmark and Sweden are next on my list of undesirable countries in the EU... guess why?
The problem is that VISA has to work worldwide, so it has to work in the US, so it cannot be based on smartcard technology.
Besides, ever gone to the US? They look weird at you if you tell them you only have one credit card. I've never needed more than one, and I've never had credit card debt. I've heard stories of people that went to the US with one creditcard, checked into the hotel and the hotel blocked the card in order to be sure to get payment. After that, your credit card was useless, so you needed more than one. Never happened to me, luckily.
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(Luxembourg)
However, there is a need in 2G-4G drives. Mainly in the corporate market. I've got this nice new Dell workstation at work for development and to my suprise I noticed it had a 8Gig harddisk. We're supposed to store our stuff on the network so, basically it only has apps and the OS on it. My question was: where the *cencored* did they get these small disks. Well, I just launched the disk administration and fair enough: 40Gig disk, with 8Gig partition. A complete waste.
If more UK citizens were like you, I'd like to revoke my statement at once. Unfortunatly, most UK citizens don't think so positively about Europe as you do.
Some americans should be reminded of this famous belgian . Many people think it's an american invention...
Anyways, I just had to show my drivers license and the car papers. After that the friendly police officer just gave me my stuff back and wished me a nice day.
These guys are doing their job... it is understandable. Belgium is *not* a police state as many people around here seem to think.
Well said! (not only that sentence, but it's your summary). I wish I had modpoints, you'd get them at once!