Hey, that's funny. I know personally at the computer store I frequent, there is a big line of people waiting to use Linux.
Right.
The article is about the idiot-proof software that comes with digital cameras. How many people do you think using the idiot software are capable of using Linux. None.
I think you would have a hard time convincing my Japanese friends that they are the same race as the Chinese.
How do you define race? common facial features, distinguishing characteristics, common genetic themes (example, sickle cell...). They are not the same.
And software... there is hardly any out for the Mac
Ah yes, let's beat that dead horse some more. You must mean stuff like Microsoft Office, the Adobe and Macromedia suites, development tools, Corel Draw, Canvas, Word Perfect, Strata 3d, Netscape, etc. Oh wait, all those DO exist on the Mac.
Are there programs that exist on PC but not Mac? Yes. But please don't pretend you can't get work done on a Mac.
we embargoed Iraq, and the Iraq civillians are the ones who really suffer
Hey, fuck Iraq too. I'm tired of paying $2 a gallon so some Oil kingpin can have another hooker and a line of coke.
You are right, Afghanistan is completely fucked up too. But that's a religion based thing, right? China for the most part doesn't value human life because they choose not to, not because God tells them not to. In my mind, that's WORSE.
If you read the article, the problem with the Kodak software / Win XP is almost a year old. It's not some fluke that just "popped up". Kodak is spending millions on this venture - belive me, their engineers would have fixed it if they could.
I suspect Kodak wants to grab this market as badly as Microsoft: they simply want to make sure that as many people as possible are automatically sent to their partner companies, rather than Microsoft's
Kodak is not saying every digital print must flow through Kodak. They are only saying that after you install a Kodak camera + software, and plug it in, the Kodak software you just installed should come up, and I agree.
Kodak is BETTING THE COMPANY on digital cameras/film/prints. Do you really think their team of engineers couldn't solve a 'minor technical issue' over the course of a year? Of course they could. Microsoft is making it hard for them.
Read the article, it's actually WORSE than it seems at first glance! Microsoft wants their software to popup when the camera is plugged in, because they plan to charge the.com photo print sites PER PHOTO that passes through their OS.
Example: Joe Sixpack plugs in his Kodak camera, MS's software pops up, along with a button that says "order a 5x7 of this picture". He clicks it, orders, and Photoprinter.com or whatever owes Microsoft a nickel. Jesus.
It's not the "bundling" of IE with the OS that bothers me most about Microsoft, it's this kind of behaviour - making it hard to use any alternatives - that really burns me.
If I was Kodak, I'd be furious. They're big, but are they big enough to take on Microsoft?
It won't really affect geeks, though. No one i know with a digital camera uses the manufacturers software, they just copy the pics from the card to the hard drive and then go to Photoshop.
I can't work out how they managed to lose out - their service rocks, and I'm perfectly happy paying $79.95 a month for it... never seen an unhappy customer, including the 7 people I signed up for their service myself.
I know one problem - no one knew about the service! When they launched in Los Angeles, DSL was starting to have many problems... it would have been an ideal alternative. They should have been pitching it to people who lost their Zyan DSL - but if you asked, most people, even techies, had never heard of it.
For what it's worth, I have a Verizon DSL line and I've talked to their tech support several times. Not once have I ever been asked what OS I was running, and there is definitely no proprietary driver needed (at least in my area).
Ricochet also uses some flavor of PPP dialup I believe, so they are also based on some sort of standard at least.
What killed them was the pricing. They have $44.95 pricing/month in San Diego and San Francisco right now for 128kb access.
I wrote, called, and begged them to bring that pricing to the Los Angeles and Orange County market. They just won't do it.
There are people here, waiting to sign up, but not at $70 a month when most of us are already paying for DSL. At $44.95 it could replace DSL for everyone I know, not to mention it's portable! I don't know why they never lowered their prices.
This is very similar to the dispute over the "GAIM" instant messenger program, and I'll say the same thing I did back then:
Why not name your program "Whiz Bang 3.0: The best page layout program for Linux" and avoid all these problems. I agree that it's ridiculous for Adobe to sue, but why invite trouble?
There needs to be a website that posts names, home phone numbers, addresses, license plates, children's names, etc. of known spammers.
No, I'm not joking, and yes, I agree that spam is not as serious as rape or murder.
But if everyone knew who these guys were, instead of them hiding behind a bogus return address, we'd be able to "convince" them to stop, I'm sure of it.
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Making the decision to block IP addresses used by known spammers, or making a decision to choose an ISP that does so is not "censorship".
Who the hell modded the parent post up to "+5, insightful"?
Any spammer can avoid being "censored", as you call it, by purchasing their own harware, software, and connectivity, and running a legitimate operation instead of stealing bandwidth and storage from others.
Do you think PS2 will also be $199 by that time to match it in price? I think I read something about them chopping the price in Japan... maybe a PS2 is in my future!
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Right.
The article is about the idiot-proof software that comes with digital cameras. How many people do you think using the idiot software are capable of using Linux. None.
No one is disputing that there is more software for the PC. We are disputing: there is hardly any out for the Mac
How do you define race? common facial features, distinguishing characteristics, common genetic themes (example, sickle cell...). They are not the same.
Ah yes, let's beat that dead horse some more. You must mean stuff like Microsoft Office, the Adobe and Macromedia suites, development tools, Corel Draw, Canvas, Word Perfect, Strata 3d, Netscape, etc. Oh wait, all those DO exist on the Mac.
Are there programs that exist on PC but not Mac? Yes. But please don't pretend you can't get work done on a Mac.
And this is different from Wintel hardware in what way? Every PC laptop suffers from the same problem.
It isn't? Explain.
Hey, fuck Iraq too. I'm tired of paying $2 a gallon so some Oil kingpin can have another hooker and a line of coke.
You are right, Afghanistan is completely fucked up too. But that's a religion based thing, right? China for the most part doesn't value human life because they choose not to, not because God tells them not to. In my mind, that's WORSE.
Can you even read Slashdot from inside China?
If you read the article, the problem with the Kodak software / Win XP is almost a year old. It's not some fluke that just "popped up". Kodak is spending millions on this venture - belive me, their engineers would have fixed it if they could.
Kodak is not saying every digital print must flow through Kodak. They are only saying that after you install a Kodak camera + software, and plug it in, the Kodak software you just installed should come up, and I agree.
Kodak is BETTING THE COMPANY on digital cameras/film/prints. Do you really think their team of engineers couldn't solve a 'minor technical issue' over the course of a year? Of course they could. Microsoft is making it hard for them.
Example: Joe Sixpack plugs in his Kodak camera, MS's software pops up, along with a button that says "order a 5x7 of this picture". He clicks it, orders, and Photoprinter.com or whatever owes Microsoft a nickel. Jesus.
If I was Kodak, I'd be furious. They're big, but are they big enough to take on Microsoft?
It won't really affect geeks, though. No one i know with a digital camera uses the manufacturers software, they just copy the pics from the card to the hard drive and then go to Photoshop.
check ricochet.com and look for promotional pricing in San Diego - $44.95 for 128kbps access.
Is there a point in your post somewhere? None of the technologies you listed is anything close to what Ricochet provides.
I know one problem - no one knew about the service! When they launched in Los Angeles, DSL was starting to have many problems... it would have been an ideal alternative. They should have been pitching it to people who lost their Zyan DSL - but if you asked, most people, even techies, had never heard of it.
$40, now you're talking... but they won't lower their prices.
Ricochet also uses some flavor of PPP dialup I believe, so they are also based on some sort of standard at least.
I wrote, called, and begged them to bring that pricing to the Los Angeles and Orange County market. They just won't do it.
There are people here, waiting to sign up, but not at $70 a month when most of us are already paying for DSL. At $44.95 it could replace DSL for everyone I know, not to mention it's portable! I don't know why they never lowered their prices.
Why not name your program "Whiz Bang 3.0: The best page layout program for Linux" and avoid all these problems. I agree that it's ridiculous for Adobe to sue, but why invite trouble?
No, I'm not joking, and yes, I agree that spam is not as serious as rape or murder.
But if everyone knew who these guys were, instead of them hiding behind a bogus return address, we'd be able to "convince" them to stop, I'm sure of it.
Who the hell modded the parent post up to "+5, insightful"?
Any spammer can avoid being "censored", as you call it, by purchasing their own harware, software, and connectivity, and running a legitimate operation instead of stealing bandwidth and storage from others.
Whereas everything else you read on Slashdot is accepted as fact?
Do you think PS2 will also be $199 by that time to match it in price? I think I read something about them chopping the price in Japan... maybe a PS2 is in my future!
Audio Galaxy. http://www.audiogalaxy.com
how did this not get modded up - sorry everyone missed it! Try posting it again closer to the top of another article :)