What if you are married and have children and they would like to work, too?
What if you'd *gasp* actually like to LIVE in the USA? (Remember, Chretien said *hiff yew doan like dem tax dat hi put on hevvryone den you can go to da Hyewnited States!*)
What if you'd like to work somewhere more than 11 months?
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RE: The great thing about democracy is you get to pick and choose.
If I was still living in Canada, would I still have the right to decide whether or not to be taxed more than 50% to pay for that leftie enclave? No. Thanks for playing. Nice try on the "you get to pick" thing.
RE: Have you heard of Sturgeon's Law.
Damn right - that's the one that says Bruno and Boots had better watch it.
RE: Yes, I recognize some of those shows as week. (Although I don't think Bruno Gerussi's show has been on for over ten years. And this link I dug up makes it look like it would be more correct to characterize the Littlest Hobo as a CTV production.)
I'll correct two typo's. You meant to say "weak" rather than "week" - and you meant to say "all" rather than "some".
RE: As for the subtle digs at right wingers? You know what, if you talk to those on the lunatic fringe of the left they will tell you the CBC has a right wing bias.
I think calling President Bush a "retard-executin' moron" or whatever that fat cow on This Hour Has 22 Minutes called him was overt. Ditto on the Stockwell Day quote unquote humour.
RE: They will point out that between them CBC and CBC Newsworld has something like a dozen hours a week of business oriented programming -- but not one labour oriented show.
And what would they discuss on this labour oriented show? "Work and how to avoid it?" "More pay for less work?" "French - how it can get you promotions you aren't entitled to?"
My wife had her computer stolen - and her old ICQ popped up. Someone traced the computer to an IP and an ISP, and we called the cops.
Did they act on this? No way.
The thief was basically handed to the OTTAWA POLICE on a silver platter, but apparently donut eating and beating defenceless women's heads against cars was more important.
I'd say send Radek, that is if the ISP will tell you who it is...
Some people used to tuck money in there too, to see if the officer will take the "bribe".
After some misunderstandings both ways, it's now common police procedure to insist on the license, only the license, no accusation possible either way.
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No, I wouldn't. Giving tax money to companies doesn't make them competitive. It makes them bloated. Companies that work for what they want to achieve tend to make it. And note: if I tax company A to give money to company B in an effort to make it "more competitive", I bankrupt A, don't help B in any way whatsoever (it papers over its internal problems and has no incentive to improve), and end up screwing up the economy.
Especially if said companies are given grants based on where they are located and the political connections they have.
If I was "in charge" I would neither help the Ontarian nor the Quebecois business. It's up to the ECONOMY to decide. Whichever one is more competitive and the better company will win.
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Reasons?
Let's take the CBC. Ever watched any of its broadcasting? "CANADA: A History - long boring monologues featuring people in period costume ranting at the camera.". The Littlest Hobo. Katts and Dog. Yet Another Anne Murray/Bachman Turner Overdrive/Burton Cummings special. Cooking With Bruno Gerussi. How about some entertainment? Sorry, gotta reflect Canadian values. Right.
And its reporting? "Coming up next: Stockwell Day: How this Christian will Ruin Canada. And after that: Our beloved PM, the tough little guy from Shawinigan, decisively crushed some upstarts. And after that, a panel phone-in show, where we'll subtly dig at right wingers the entire time and then slander everyone we feel like as unCanadian and the spawn of Satan. Coming up next season: Four doumentaries on the SAVIOUR OF CANADA Pierre Trudeau, and a rebroadcast of all 14 days coverage of his funeral."
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Oh, right, sorry. I forgot (consults Red Book) subsidies other countries make to their industries is UNFAIR, but those Canada makes to selected (read: vote the right way, in the right province) companies is just good public policy, levelling the playing field, right thing to do, no, I never owned no shares in no golf course, etc.
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Actually they ship their most talented people out to try and earn a real living in other countries. It's called the brain drain. Which officially doesn't exist. Mind you, 67% of every graduated Comp Sci class going IMMEDIATELY to the US of A would have some people worrying. That is, those who don't vote themselves a 42% pay raise in one year...
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RE: It's remarks like that that undermine the success of Canada as a world leader in industry and commerce.
Yeah, that Canada. A huge juggernaut economically, whoo-ee. But with an economy smaller than Indonesia's. By the way.
RE: It is also a false statement. You would have readers believing that Canada does not subsidize (through investments)
You meant to say TAXES. When's tax freedom day? July 15th? Work hard, young Canadian. We've got Quebecois and Atlantic Canadians to subsidise and tons and tons of HDRC and other Liberal slush funds to feed, never mind the shady loans to golf courses the PM part-owned.
RE: other industries outside of Quebec. What about the oil and gas exploration industries (offshore and in the west),
Ask Albertans how much they ended up seeing of that money once the NEP kicked into effect, coincidentally so Quebec and Ontario wouldn't be TOO overburdened paying market rates, and so Westerners wouldn't get any stupid ideas about being anything other than those that make the money so that Sucking Central can spend it.
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You assume I'm Canadian living in Canada and voting in Canada. Wrong.
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RE: Bombardier have survived and flourished as a major player in multiple engineering and design fields despite the reluctance of the Canadian government to infuse monies into a winning international corporation.
What business does the government have subsidising businesses anyway? Seems to me that another potential Bombardier that was English speaking and didn't have the right Quebecois connections was probably taxed into the Canadian equivalent of Chapter 11 so that said cash could be handed in grants, gifts and golf-course style kick-backs to the company that was in the correct riding, speaking the correct language.
And Canada wonders why its businesses don't do well. Perhaps cause you tax them to death to bestow handouts on uncompetitive businesses run by your friends. Oh, and by the way it also explains why the CBC sucks, the National Film Board sucks, national politics suck, the brain drain is accelerating and noone in Canada save the immigrants have any drive to do anything anymore.
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Yeah, I can think of a few reasons too...
Headquartered in la belle province
Maintains factories in important ridings
Gives money to the right party
Let's face it, if it was a Calgary based corporation called "Snowmobengineering, Inc." they wouldn't have seen a dime (4.2 cents in American money)
Hack into Tom Wappel's database on all Canadians and how they vote and who they support (which the government uses to decide who gets things like pensions and veterans' benefits, among other things) and see how Bombardier stacks up.
Didn't they just hire Lucien Bouchard as some kind of mouthpiece? That's gotta be worth a few billion in kickbacks.
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The government would have bailed them out with a couple of billion dollar grants *cough BOMBARDIER cough*
Whoever decided that that particular waste of pigment should be purchased for millions of dollars wants taking out, hanging by his thumbs, and then eviscerating with a palette knife.
And to me, the argument "well, we were paying more to rent it" doesn't hold water. There has, at some level, to be SOME degree of skill or inspiration in the piece for it to be art. Three stripes in a row is graphic design, not art.
Vermeer and other artists used a "camera obscura" to get the draftsmanship on the drawings they used for their paintings as perfect as possible. In fact, Durer and others used grids of strings between themselves and subject, and a gridded canvas, to simplify the drawing and make it work better. (Easier to trace a little square of a little square, rather than draft the entire thing). I've heard, but am not sure who so won't name names, that some very famous realist artists of the modern day project slides onto their canvases, and "fill in the paint by numbers". Is this cheating? Yes or no?
I'd say that given that artists used grey scale value tabs, drawing tools (plumb lines/straight edges), grids, controlled palettes and any other technology they could get their hands on to either get the draftsmanship better or work easier (consider that oil surpassed egg tempera - new technology overtaking old - just as alkyd may supercede oils...) anyone who says that technology X can't be used for art is deluded and ignorant of art history.
Art is what it is, most often than not in the eye of the beholder. The viewer isn't a passive consumer but must, as in any other media, inflict some kind of mental transform on blotches of paint and arrangements of tone and line, or whatever. If a slash of white acrylic across a black canvas evokes more from me than a Flemish painting of fruit in a silver bowl, then hey. To ME, that's art. If I can't stand Jackson Pollock and gaze with wonderment on Caravaggio, Delacroix or Courbet, that's my perogative.
If people in MS can't understand why a computer screen isn't art - or anywhere else, to hell with em. And ditto for the sarcastic remarks about 80s hairdos and bull sperm. Dilletantism and posing exists in every scene - witness any open source posedown either here or real life.
I'll state my biases right off the bat: I'm a C++ programmer, and like it because I can do Object Oriented programming, Generic programming, and procedural programming within the same language set. Java does not support templates or generic programming as the term has come to be known, and delving down from OO is pretty tricky.
The question arises though: what are we trying to teach here? If it's a course in computer hardware, teach BASIC (10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 GOTO 10), then assembly. If it's an algorithms course, teach it in Python, then Java, sure.
But if you're looking for a catch-all language to teach any and all kinds of programming tricks, you can't go wrong with C/C++. Java? Without pointers, it's pretty tricky to teach em as a concept or teach classical linked list programming. I don't think you can embed assembly in it either.
Throwing OTHER languages in as well isn't a bad idea, so that at the end of it you can come out with knowledge of Java, Python, etc. etc. etc. But for a firm grasp of the basics you'd have to go with a C or C++. Any good program worth its salt will teach procedures, object orientation, memory considerations, architectural considerations, generic programming, templatised programming, etc etc etc... I can't see other languages coming close, which could explain C++'s popularity.
Yup. Gruber's cameo was done right. (He was Nyder, right?)
Richard Briers' wasn't. "Oh, look at me, haw haw, I'm the baddie. Look at my hitler moustache oh haw haw, just doing it for the grandkids you know, oh haw haw... wouldn't Felicity Kendall have made a good companion..."
RE: The only problem with American Money is that the people with the money will want a say in the final product and we'll just get the same old shit.
Fish called Wanda? That was American money without the interference... besides, you can hold up the ratings and the finished product of Fox's first attempt... and then talk about the ratings of the series.
RE: BTW You're right about Brain of Morbius - that's the best Dr Who ever. All those Gothic ones are pretty good, but Brain of Morbius is by far and away the best.
Genesis of the Daleks was by far the best... creepy as hell, with allusions to warnings about fascism, blindly trusting scientists with an agenda, eugenics etc. but the Goth ones have the most special place in my heart. When I saw Gallifrey for the first time in the Deadly Assassin, a cross between a church, university convocation and a parliament, I was blown away - they'd come up with exactly the kind of environment gung-ho academics hate and try to leave.
I would, if I could get the financing, like to find out exactly who has the licensing deal to do "Who" (or find out how much Ma Beeb wants for it) - and cull some of the brightest writers out there for a new series.
WANTED: Scripts for 30+ year old Sci-Fi franchise. Pluses: engaging drama, relevant issues being discussed in the episodes, a flair for reducing scientific principles to comprehensible statements, excellent characterisation. No reliance on deus-ex-machina technology, complex sets and/or expensive special effects or the use of violence/gunplay to solve problems (apart from defensive strategies). If you are potato-shaped and balding and can and do sing "The Lumberjack song" at great volumes at inappropriate times, please disregard this notice. Folks wearing Hawaiian shirts to the interview will be shot.
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She doesn't have any of those, though. Just bulgy eyes and funny teeth.
Well, given that the Newton platform is deader than ---- shouldn't Apple Open Source the Newton development system?
Who knows, with more software out there, maybe the Newton might become en vogue again.
You're on your own, there. That bulgy eyed creature ain't fan material in my book.
What if you are married and have children and they would like to work, too?
What if you'd *gasp* actually like to LIVE in the USA? (Remember, Chretien said *hiff yew doan like dem tax dat hi put on hevvryone den you can go to da Hyewnited States!*)
What if you'd like to work somewhere more than 11 months?
RE: The great thing about democracy is you get to pick and choose.
If I was still living in Canada, would I still have the right to decide whether or not to be taxed more than 50% to pay for that leftie enclave? No. Thanks for playing. Nice try on the "you get to pick" thing.
RE: Have you heard of Sturgeon's Law.
Damn right - that's the one that says Bruno and Boots had better watch it.
RE: Yes, I recognize some of those shows as week. (Although I don't think Bruno Gerussi's show has been on for over ten years. And this link I dug up makes it look like it would be more correct to characterize the Littlest Hobo as a CTV production.)
I'll correct two typo's. You meant to say "weak" rather than "week" - and you meant to say "all" rather than "some".
RE: As for the subtle digs at right wingers? You know what, if you talk to those on the lunatic fringe of the left they will tell you the CBC has a right wing bias.
I think calling President Bush a "retard-executin' moron" or whatever that fat cow on This Hour Has 22 Minutes called him was overt. Ditto on the Stockwell Day quote unquote humour.
RE: They will point out that between them CBC and CBC Newsworld has something like a dozen hours a week of business oriented programming -- but not one labour oriented show.
And what would they discuss on this labour oriented show? "Work and how to avoid it?" "More pay for less work?" "French - how it can get you promotions you aren't entitled to?"
My wife had her computer stolen - and her old ICQ popped up. Someone traced the computer to an IP and an ISP, and we called the cops.
Did they act on this? No way.
The thief was basically handed to the OTTAWA POLICE on a silver platter, but apparently donut eating and beating defenceless women's heads against cars was more important.
I'd say send Radek, that is if the ISP will tell you who it is...
Of course it makes sense! You're "kick starting" the system to turn on!
That makes more sense than a big assed "K" any day.
There's a good reason for it.
Some people used to tuck money in there too, to see if the officer will take the "bribe".
After some misunderstandings both ways, it's now common police procedure to insist on the license, only the license, no accusation possible either way.
No, I wouldn't. Giving tax money to companies doesn't make them competitive. It makes them bloated. Companies that work for what they want to achieve tend to make it. And note: if I tax company A to give money to company B in an effort to make it "more competitive", I bankrupt A, don't help B in any way whatsoever (it papers over its internal problems and has no incentive to improve), and end up screwing up the economy.
Especially if said companies are given grants based on where they are located and the political connections they have.
If I was "in charge" I would neither help the Ontarian nor the Quebecois business. It's up to the ECONOMY to decide. Whichever one is more competitive and the better company will win.
Reasons?
Let's take the CBC. Ever watched any of its broadcasting? "CANADA: A History - long boring monologues featuring people in period costume ranting at the camera.". The Littlest Hobo. Katts and Dog. Yet Another Anne Murray/Bachman Turner Overdrive/Burton Cummings special. Cooking With Bruno Gerussi. How about some entertainment? Sorry, gotta reflect Canadian values. Right.
And its reporting? "Coming up next: Stockwell Day: How this Christian will Ruin Canada. And after that: Our beloved PM, the tough little guy from Shawinigan, decisively crushed some upstarts. And after that, a panel phone-in show, where we'll subtly dig at right wingers the entire time and then slander everyone we feel like as unCanadian and the spawn of Satan. Coming up next season: Four doumentaries on the SAVIOUR OF CANADA Pierre Trudeau, and a rebroadcast of all 14 days coverage of his funeral."
Oh, right, sorry. I forgot (consults Red Book) subsidies other countries make to their industries is UNFAIR, but those Canada makes to selected (read: vote the right way, in the right province) companies is just good public policy, levelling the playing field, right thing to do, no, I never owned no shares in no golf course, etc.
Actually they ship their most talented people out to try and earn a real living in other countries. It's called the brain drain. Which officially doesn't exist. Mind you, 67% of every graduated Comp Sci class going IMMEDIATELY to the US of A would have some people worrying. That is, those who don't vote themselves a 42% pay raise in one year...
RE: It's remarks like that that undermine the success of Canada as a world leader in industry and commerce.
Yeah, that Canada. A huge juggernaut economically, whoo-ee. But with an economy smaller than Indonesia's. By the way.
RE: It is also a false statement. You would have readers believing that Canada does not subsidize (through investments)
You meant to say TAXES. When's tax freedom day? July 15th? Work hard, young Canadian. We've got Quebecois and Atlantic Canadians to subsidise and tons and tons of HDRC and other Liberal slush funds to feed, never mind the shady loans to golf courses the PM part-owned.
RE: other industries outside of Quebec. What about the oil and gas exploration industries (offshore and in the west),
Ask Albertans how much they ended up seeing of that money once the NEP kicked into effect, coincidentally so Quebec and Ontario wouldn't be TOO overburdened paying market rates, and so Westerners wouldn't get any stupid ideas about being anything other than those that make the money so that Sucking Central can spend it.
You assume I'm Canadian living in Canada and voting in Canada. Wrong.
RE: Bombardier have survived and flourished as a major player in multiple engineering and design fields despite the reluctance of the Canadian government to infuse monies into a winning international corporation.
What business does the government have subsidising businesses anyway? Seems to me that another potential Bombardier that was English speaking and didn't have the right Quebecois connections was probably taxed into the Canadian equivalent of Chapter 11 so that said cash could be handed in grants, gifts and golf-course style kick-backs to the company that was in the correct riding, speaking the correct language.
And Canada wonders why its businesses don't do well. Perhaps cause you tax them to death to bestow handouts on uncompetitive businesses run by your friends. Oh, and by the way it also explains why the CBC sucks, the National Film Board sucks, national politics suck, the brain drain is accelerating and noone in Canada save the immigrants have any drive to do anything anymore.
Yeah, I can think of a few reasons too...
Headquartered in la belle province
Maintains factories in important ridings
Gives money to the right party
Let's face it, if it was a Calgary based corporation called "Snowmobengineering, Inc." they wouldn't have seen a dime (4.2 cents in American money)
Hack into Tom Wappel's database on all Canadians and how they vote and who they support (which the government uses to decide who gets things like pensions and veterans' benefits, among other things) and see how Bombardier stacks up.
Didn't they just hire Lucien Bouchard as some kind of mouthpiece? That's gotta be worth a few billion in kickbacks.
The government would have bailed them out with a couple of billion dollar grants *cough BOMBARDIER cough*
Whoever decided that that particular waste of pigment should be purchased for millions of dollars wants taking out, hanging by his thumbs, and then eviscerating with a palette knife.
And to me, the argument "well, we were paying more to rent it" doesn't hold water. There has, at some level, to be SOME degree of skill or inspiration in the piece for it to be art. Three stripes in a row is graphic design, not art.
Let me just put in my $0.02
Vermeer and other artists used a "camera obscura" to get the draftsmanship on the drawings they used for their paintings as perfect as possible. In fact, Durer and others used grids of strings between themselves and subject, and a gridded canvas, to simplify the drawing and make it work better. (Easier to trace a little square of a little square, rather than draft the entire thing). I've heard, but am not sure who so won't name names, that some very famous realist artists of the modern day project slides onto their canvases, and "fill in the paint by numbers". Is this cheating? Yes or no?
I'd say that given that artists used grey scale value tabs, drawing tools (plumb lines/straight edges), grids, controlled palettes and any other technology they could get their hands on to either get the draftsmanship better or work easier (consider that oil surpassed egg tempera - new technology overtaking old - just as alkyd may supercede oils...) anyone who says that technology X can't be used for art is deluded and ignorant of art history.
Art is what it is, most often than not in the eye of the beholder. The viewer isn't a passive consumer but must, as in any other media, inflict some kind of mental transform on blotches of paint and arrangements of tone and line, or whatever. If a slash of white acrylic across a black canvas evokes more from me than a Flemish painting of fruit in a silver bowl, then hey. To ME, that's art. If I can't stand Jackson Pollock and gaze with wonderment on Caravaggio, Delacroix or Courbet, that's my perogative.
If people in MS can't understand why a computer screen isn't art - or anywhere else, to hell with em. And ditto for the sarcastic remarks about 80s hairdos and bull sperm. Dilletantism and posing exists in every scene - witness any open source posedown either here or real life.
That by the way is "Liberty Bell" by Sousa.
I'll state my biases right off the bat: I'm a C++ programmer, and like it because I can do Object Oriented programming, Generic programming, and procedural programming within the same language set. Java does not support templates or generic programming as the term has come to be known, and delving down from OO is pretty tricky.
The question arises though: what are we trying to teach here? If it's a course in computer hardware, teach BASIC (10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 GOTO 10), then assembly. If it's an algorithms course, teach it in Python, then Java, sure.
But if you're looking for a catch-all language to teach any and all kinds of programming tricks, you can't go wrong with C/C++. Java? Without pointers, it's pretty tricky to teach em as a concept or teach classical linked list programming. I don't think you can embed assembly in it either.
Throwing OTHER languages in as well isn't a bad idea, so that at the end of it you can come out with knowledge of Java, Python, etc. etc. etc. But for a firm grasp of the basics you'd have to go with a C or C++. Any good program worth its salt will teach procedures, object orientation, memory considerations, architectural considerations, generic programming, templatised programming, etc etc etc... I can't see other languages coming close, which could explain C++'s popularity.
Yup. Gruber's cameo was done right. (He was Nyder, right?)
Richard Briers' wasn't. "Oh, look at me, haw haw, I'm the baddie. Look at my hitler moustache oh haw haw, just doing it for the grandkids you know, oh haw haw... wouldn't Felicity Kendall have made a good companion..."
RE: The only problem with American Money is that the people with the money will want a say in the final product and we'll just get the same old shit.
Fish called Wanda? That was American money without the interference... besides, you can hold up the ratings and the finished product of Fox's first attempt... and then talk about the ratings of the series.
RE: BTW You're right about Brain of Morbius - that's the best Dr Who ever. All those Gothic ones are pretty good, but Brain of Morbius is by far and away the best.
Genesis of the Daleks was by far the best... creepy as hell, with allusions to warnings about fascism, blindly trusting scientists with an agenda, eugenics etc. but the Goth ones have the most special place in my heart. When I saw Gallifrey for the first time in the Deadly Assassin, a cross between a church, university convocation and a parliament, I was blown away - they'd come up with exactly the kind of environment gung-ho academics hate and try to leave.
I would, if I could get the financing, like to find out exactly who has the licensing deal to do "Who" (or find out how much Ma Beeb wants for it) - and cull some of the brightest writers out there for a new series.
WANTED: Scripts for 30+ year old Sci-Fi franchise. Pluses: engaging drama, relevant issues being discussed in the episodes, a flair for reducing scientific principles to comprehensible statements, excellent characterisation. No reliance on deus-ex-machina technology, complex sets and/or expensive special effects or the use of violence/gunplay to solve problems (apart from defensive strategies). If you are potato-shaped and balding and can and do sing "The Lumberjack song" at great volumes at inappropriate times, please disregard this notice. Folks wearing Hawaiian shirts to the interview will be shot.
Too bad - I'd love to know where.