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Return of The Holy Grail to the Silver Screen

Adam writes: "That's right - the Grail will soon be back in theaters (or theatres), with 24 seconds of previously unreleased footage!"

222 comments

  1. You stupid slashdot git... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...I've soiled my armor, I'm so excited. ;)

  2. Re:Which regional encoding? African or European? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "!.....I..I don't know -
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......"

  3. Damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I thought the most successful trolls were the subtle ones, not the obvious ones. Good job.

  4. this has to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    ...the gayest troll ever.

  5. IN A.D. 952 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    IN A.D. 952
    QUEST WAS BEGINNING

    ARTHUR: What happen?
    LANCELOT: Somebody set up us the grail
    BORS: We get signal
    ARTHUR: What !
    BORS: Main screen turn on
    ARTHUR: It's you !!
    FRENCHMAN: How are you Englishmen ??
    FRENCHMAN: ALL YOUR GRAIL ARE BELONG TO US
    FRENCHMAN: You are on the way to taunting
    ARTHUR: What you say !!
    FRENCHMAN: You have no chance to survive make your time
    FRENCHMAN: HA HA HA HA ...
    ARTHUR: Take off every 'TROJAN RABBIT'
    ARTHUR: You know what you doing
    ARTHUR: Move 'RABBIT'
    ARTHUR: For great Camelot!

    1. Re:IN A.D. 952 by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      If he were a troll he'd be asking you your favorite color. :-)


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    2. Re:IN A.D. 952 by adalger · · Score: 1

      Nonononono.
      Somebody set up us the bunny.
      Approximate meter counts more heavily than anything else, except maybe initial consonant or similar sound.

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  6. SHIT!!! by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 1
    Now I have to re-memorize it from scratch!

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  7. Re:Parody warning: by phil+reed · · Score: 2

    The extra footage has been on the laserdisk edition for ages.


    ...phil

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  8. Call me tasteless by volkris · · Score: 1

    Call me tasteless, but I just don't fine Holy Grail all that funny... Worth watching once, sure, but... it's just not that good a movie.

  9. Re:New hof category by Stormie · · Score: 2

    Rob needs a new hof category: most moderated posting.

    That would be excellent. But this post wouldn't be in it - it's only got 27 moderations so far, I've seen trolls score in the 80's.. :-)

  10. What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by alewando · · Score: 3

    Thirty years ago, sure. Back in the late sixties and early seventies, the civilized world plus Yorkshire was a bleak and desolate place devoid of joy and humor. But why do people still find Monty Python funny today?

    There's been a whole lot of progress in the last thirty years. Monty Python may have been pioneers of a sort, and they sure made the BBC cringe like no one had before. But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? No.

    It says a lot more about geek culture than about the quality of Monty Python's work that they've persisted as long as they have. Geeks, though they pretend to be iconoclasts on the cutting edge of technological and cultural revolutions, are really as conservative and scared of change as the people they deride. They cling to Monty Python, because they can feel rest assured that their adulation is justified, that Monty Python is officially and canonically funny. The fact that millions of scraggly geeks with crunchy socks have memorized the exact same jokes and the exact same non sequitors doesn't detract from Monty Python's appeal. Indeed, it only reinforces its appeal, since it gives geeks the sense of community and brotherhood they crave so much for not having it in the real world.

    Monty Python's back in the theatres, eh? Well, I think I'll sit this one by. I've already seen the Holy Grail once or twice on my trips to the middle east, so why would I want to see it again in the theatres? If you ask me, Monty Python's sun has already set.

  11. Re:24 missing seconds... by Chaostrophy · · Score: 3

    well, they published a script, looks like they took the marked up shooting script, stuck in some stills, and sent it to the printers. I bought it in a English edition 20 or so years ago. That has not just the script for the sceen (with a big slash through each page in what looks like marker or crayon) but also stills for the King Brian The Wild sceen, so footage was shot.

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  12. DVD Re-Release? by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 2
    OK, I just got done getting the DVD release, and now they're talking about a fall release of the DVD? What gives? Also, what of the talk about Life of Brian or The Meaning of Life? They're already on DVD now... are they re-releaseing those as well?

    A little confused...

    1. Re:DVD Re-Release? by woggo · · Score: 2
      No kidding. It's really lame how some studios have slapped together shoddy DVD releases (I actually didn't think the _Holy Grail_ DVD was that bad, but I'm not an MP connoiseur) just so they can re-release the all-singing, all-dancing super edition within a year.

      For an even more egregious example, examine the shoddy, non-anamorphic, "old" Kubrick DVD set as compared to the marginally flashier (but DD 5.1 and anamorphic) one which came out this week. "Uh, wouldn't you mind spending $200 for the DVDs we should have sold you in the first place?" Movie execs that authorize non-anamorphic DVDs, knowing full well how worthless they'll be come 2006, should be castrated and strung up by DVI cable. (I didn't buy the "old" Kubrick set, but I know people who did.)

      I guess that the Randroids will all tell me that it's OK because the market will bear it, but I still think it's pretty dirty to throw together a half-assed product so that you can sell twice as many to fans when you release an acceptable version. The market will bear anything when you have consumers by the balls. In this respect (and only in this respect), Lucas isn't being an ass by not releasing the Star Wars films on DVD.


      ~wog

    2. Re:DVD Re-Release? by woggo · · Score: 2
      Legally, the movie studios can release whatever the hell they want. If you don't like it, start making your own damn movies.... You can thank George Lucas and his Star Wars "re-releases" for the re-release line of thinking.
      I made no complaints about the legality of DVD re-releasing, nor would I wish for such a practice to be illegal. I fully agree that the proper response to these activities is to boycott the products, and that's the stance I've taken. However, it's especially egregious for a studio to release a DVD and then re-release within 24 months it with baseline, de-facto-required DVD features like 5.1 sound and anamorphic video. Lucas' re-releases (whether you like them or not -- I am ambivalent) at least changed the actual movie, rather than merely mastering it properly for a given format. (Lucas also remastered the series to his THX standards, but he had not yet developed those at the time of the original films' release on VHS -- unlike anamorphic video and Dolby Digital 5.1, which have been with us pretty much as long as the DVD format itself.)
    3. Re:DVD Re-Release? by woggo · · Score: 2

      At the end of 2006 (or 2005?) the US Federal Communications Comission will drop all licenses for analog broadcasters and digital, widescreen TV will be your only option. At that time, any non-anamorphic DVDs will be playable only by using the "zoom" feature of most DVD players, resulting in a grainy mess.

    4. Re:DVD Re-Release? by woggo · · Score: 2
      Actually, Kubrick shot on 35 milimeter in a 4:3 aspect ratio.
      Mea culpa. I wasn't aware of this. (I know James Cameron prefers 4:3 as well.) The point remains, though, that an anamorphic transfer would allow the viewer to choose an appropriate aspect ratio for her TV and viewing preferences, and would do so in the most elegant way possible, without wasting precious resolution for hardcoded letterboxes.

      (I read a review of the old _2001_ DVD -- I think it was from Widescreen Review -- that said that the letterboxes weren't even black.)

    5. Re:DVD Re-Release? by EvilJohn · · Score: 2

      "For an even more egregious example, examine the shoddy, non-anamorphic, "old" Kubrick DVD set as compared to the marginally flashier (but DD 5.1 and anamorphic) one which came out this week. "Uh, wouldn't you mind spending $200 for the DVDs we should have sold you in the first place?" Movie execs that authorize non-anamorphic DVDs, knowing full well how worthless they'll be come 2006, should be castrated and strung up by DVI cable. (I didn't buy the "old" Kubrick set, but I know people who did.) "

      Actually, Kubrick shot on 35 milimeter in a 4:3 aspect ratio. His films where actually cropped for showing in theaters. This is one of those rare cases where you actually see more _more_ in a 4:3 format then you do in a 16:9. There was a good write about this on www.thedigitalbits.com a few years ago.

      // EvilJohn
      // Java Geek

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    6. Re:DVD Re-Release? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I'm not a Randriod, but I play one on slashdot.

      Legally, the movie studios can release whatever the hell they want. If you don't like it, start making your own damn movies. Sure, there's a profit potential there in rereleases, and while, to the consumer it seems rather dirty handed, the studios have figured out that our stupid asses will buy both sets. If you're so pissed off, quit buying DVD's, write letters to the studios, etc. You can thank George Lucas and his Star Wars "re-releases" for the re-release line of thinking.

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    7. Re:DVD Re-Release? by C.+Tengo+Hambre · · Score: 1
      knowing full well how worthless they'll be come 2006

      What happens in 2006?

    8. Re:DVD Re-Release? by C.+Tengo+Hambre · · Score: 1

      Thanks. So there's no way the DVD player can convert on the fly?

  13. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by osu-neko · · Score: 1
    This is my theory, my theory alone, beloning to me...

    Heh! I just now noticed how much the speech patterns of Anne Elk resemble Mojo Jojo!

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  14. Re:What has happened to the cast? by slothdog · · Score: 1

    Terry Jones also wrote the (IMHO-not-so-funny) novelization of Douglas Adams' Starship Titanic a couple years back.

  15. Re:thank goodness.. the current dvd SUCKS. by stripes · · Score: 2
    Now if only we could get the Godfather trilogy on DVD, I'd never have to leave the house again.

    The Godfather DVD Collection scheduled for reales October 9th 2001. Pre-order at will :-)

  16. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Chris+Hiner · · Score: 2

    There's alot of comedy out there that requires a lot of knowledge of current events to see what's funny about it (SNL, most of the late night shows). This kind of humor doesn't age well. How many people nowadays would be able to laugh at jokes about WWII or even WWI era events?
    Imagine how much time it'd take to explain a joke about FDR's "New Deal"...

    Then there is comedy that is still funny many years after it was done. (IMHO, Marx Brothers, Sid Caesar, Monty Python, Mel Brooks...)

    A lot of comedy is aimed towards the general public. The stuff that stays funny over the years seems to me to be stuff that was aimed at a more sophisticated audience. Humor that requires a bit of thinking seems to age better... (Mostly--there are exceptions, like slapstick, that can still be funny...)

  17. Re:Parody warning: by ewhac · · Score: 5

    (Apologies for the discombobulation, this is the only part of the Holy Grail I have not memorized. It's just too convoluted...)

    Wuss. The following, though not scrupulously perfect, is from memory.

    KING: Make sure the prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get him.
    GUARD: Not to leave the room, even if you come and get him.
    KING: No no, until I come and get him.
    GUARD: Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.
    KING: No no. You stay in the room, and make sure he doesn't leave.
    GUARD: And you'll come and get him.
    KING: Right.
    GUARD: We're not to do anything apart from just stop him entering the room.
    KING: No no, leaving the room.
    GUARD: Leaving the room, yes.
    KING: Got it?
    GUARD: Oh! Oh, if we... er, if he... Uh...
    KING: Look, it's quite simple.
    GUARD: Er...
    KING: You two just stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave. Got it?
    GUARD: Oh, I remember. Er, can he leave the room with us?
    KING: No, I want you to keep him in here, and make sure...
    GUARD: Oh, we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had to leave, and we were with him...
    KING: No, just keep him in here...
    GUARD: Until you or anyone else...
    KING: No, not anyone else, just me...
    GUARD: Just you...
    KING: Get back.
    GUARD: Get back.
    KING: ...Right?
    GUARD: Right, we'll stay here until you get back.
    KING: And make sure he doesn't leave.
    GUARD: Hmm?
    KING: Make sure he doesn't leave.
    GUARD: The prince?
    KING: Yes! Make sure he...
    GUARD: Oh! I'm sorry, I thought you meant him. (indicates other guard) Y'know it seemed a bit daft me having to guard him when he's a guard.
    KING: Is that clear?
    GUARD: Oh, quite clear, no problems.

    [ KING turns to leave; GUARDS move to follow. ]

    KING: Where are you going?
    GUARD: We're coming with you.
    KING: No, I want you to stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave!
    GUARD: Oh, I see. Right.

    Schwab
    Shameless show-off

  18. 24 more seconds by ocie · · Score: 1

    Hopefully it isn't 24 more seconds of that annoying intermission music that is played at the end. Do do do do do do de. du ta du du de de de do...

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    1. Re:24 more seconds by ocie · · Score: 1

      No, you're thinking of the theme music from the TV show. I was talking about the organ music that is played durring the intermission and at the very end when the screen is black.

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    2. Re:24 more seconds by BluedemonX · · Score: 2

      That by the way is "Liberty Bell" by Sousa.

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  19. Re:What has happened to the cast? by sacherjj · · Score: 1

    John Cleese made many industrial training films as well.

    As well as one about business ethics that was hilarious. They showed it in one of our Engineering Business classes. Gets the points across but with great humor.

  20. Re:Which regional encoding? African or European? by Zombie · · Score: 1

    Are you suggesting DVD's migrate?

  21. It's not dead... by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

    ...its resting!

  22. Re:thank goodness.. the current dvd SUCKS. by Phexro · · Score: 2

    the Grail laserdisc was packed with extras. they had at least one (and it may be more - it's been many years since i've seen the ld) commentary tracks, many language tracks & subtitles, and some extra footage.

    my favorite was the french taunter scene, where they had subtitles with the english translation of the japanese translation (that's english -> japanese -> english) of the dialog. it was hysterical seeing how badly the frenchman's insults were translated.

    i sure hope they do a completely new transfer from the original film for this re-release. 'cos the one on the current dvd sucks rocks. picture is way too dark, and there are tons of compression artifacts.
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  23. Re:Some random 411 by bughunter · · Score: 2
    More Info:

    The historic landmark Rialto in South Pasadena, CA will also be screening MP&THG starting Friday June 22, with three shows a day on weekdays and five on weekends.

    (I've been given a free guest pass by the manager! I can't wait!)

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  24. I wonder if this time they've FINALLY sacked those responsible for all the Mooses appearing in the opening titles.

  25. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by OWJones · · Score: 1

    Apparently the trolls are not only posting, but moderating, as well. Feeding time, I guess (I'm bored).

    But why do people still find Monty Python funny today?

    Because many of the themes that Python used back then are still valid targets of parody, mockery, and general silliness. The sheer range of targets over the four years of TV episodes guarantee that almost everyone can, on some level, relate to and find humor in the situations of the television show.

    Yes, people (mis)quoting the movie(s) gets old after a while, but how many people have actually seen the TV shows? The Python-a-thon was probably the coolest thing Comedy Central ever did (for New Year's 94-95), and I absolutely loved the German TV shows.

    The show operates on two levels; not only is it filled with one-liners and sight gags, but the intelligence of the creators comes through in the simple concepts of the skits. C'mon, do you really see shows nowadays making skits about German and Greek philosophers playing soccer? Do you really see most of America getting the humor in such a skit?

    So, yes, the Holy Grail in theaters may be something to pass on. Just don't assume the movies are the sole (noticeable) creation by Python. And if you still don't accept this, please remove the pole from your arse before you consider posting anymore flamebait like this.

    -jdm

  26. Parody warning: by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 5

    Patron to movie employee: Right! You stay here and make certain that the movie does not leave the cinema!

    Employee: Right, we will stay here until the movie leaves the theater.

    Patron: No, you stay here, and make certain the movie does not leave.

    Employee: Right, we wont let people enter the theater.

    Patron: No you STAY here until...

    (Continue until Lancelot appears)

    (Apologies for the discombobulation, this is the only part of the Holy Grail I have not memorized. It's just too convoluted...)

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    1. Re:Parody warning: by ywwg · · Score: 2

      what about

      KING (tho he can't be a king, no?): Oh, go get a glass of water

    2. Re:Parody warning: by grovertime · · Score: 2
      Nice! This is the greatest news ever, but I can't believe they've actually managed to keep the extra footage a secret this long. Now if Cleese and co. could could just explain the Meaning of Life, I could rest soundly.

      1. is this.....is this for REAL?
  27. You either get it, or you don't. by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 5

    ...so why would I want to see it again in the theatres? If you ask me, Monty Python's sun has already set.

    Why would someone want to watch a movie twice? Heck, I have seen Star Wars, I don't need to buy it again. I don't need the merchandising. Oh, I have read the Lord of the Rings once a year for the last 14 years, and I guess I won't have to go see the movie either because I know what happens!

    ...Errr.... No.

    A few years back, the Meaning of Life appeared at a theater, here. I own the movie. I went to see it anyways. It was great watching this movie on the big screen (no cropping!) and, the best bonus, being there with a bunch of my friends, and a theater full of rabid Python fans.

    The only thing about Monty Python and popular culture (read, Star Wars, Matrix, etc...) that is different, is that the Pythons were very talented and an extremely well educated bunch. Their sort of humor appeals more to the intellectual type (geeks) than average sit-com crap. A large proportion of their comedy is intellectual. If you get the jokes, you are suddenly part of a club. How many people would find the "Bruces Philosphers Song" (sp) outrageously funny? Not everyone I would wager. The reason I would say this is that Joe Average probably has no idea who Immanual Kant, Heidgger, David Hume et al were!

    So, if you believe that the sun is setting on Python, then it must be setting on other big phenomena too. The only difference is the level of intellect required to get the subtle jokes and allusions.

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    1. Re:You either get it, or you don't. by G-funk · · Score: 1

      If you get the jokes, you are suddenly part of a club.

      I think you just made his point :)


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    2. Re:You either get it, or you don't. by MrNixon · · Score: 1

      Well, in any sufficiently large group, there are bound to be some individuals that are more intelligent than the average....

    3. Re:You either get it, or you don't. by Gyver · · Score: 1

      That's "taunt you a second time."

    4. Re:You either get it, or you don't. by schlam · · Score: 1
      your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!!

      now go away before I taunt u some more

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  28. Re:way to get my hopes up by generic · · Score: 1

    Uh, I own the DVD. Its been released already.

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  29. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by generic · · Score: 1

    I think this was meant as a joke. Full house vs python is apples and oranges. Full house is for 8 year olds and python is for people who have a sharp wit. I can stare blank faced at a segemnt of full house and not even grin at the jokes because they are for children.

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  30. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Jethro · · Score: 5

    Come on, Drew Barrimore's not as pretty as people seem to think she is, but calling her a cow is a bit uncalled for.


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  31. Re:DVD has been around for some time now by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the new DVD of HG will have the Japanese soundtrack with the re-translated English sub-titles like the Criterion laser disk did. Pee-in-the-pants funny.

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  32. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Amanset · · Score: 1

    But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? No.

    I'm sorry I have to disagree there. Monty Python managed to gain appeal throughout many different cultures, not just in their native homeland. I would hazard a guess that "Pee Wee" and "Full House" have not managed to gather anywhere near the same level of international appeal. Take this as an example, I am a child of the 70s and 80s (born in 1974). I have only heard of Pee Wee because of what happened in that cinema - I haven't seen a single one of his shows - and I had to look up "Full House" on IMDB to find out what it was.

    Can you imagine anyone having to do that for Monty Python? Monty Python was innovative and it still has international appeal, long after lesser shows have been forgotten.

  33. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 2

    I find some Shakespeare very funny. When we were reading Romeo and Juliet in English class in highschool, I chuckled out loud a few times. The kids in my class just looked at me funny.

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  34. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

    "But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed?"

    Now that is a damn good troll. You really should have picked better or at least existent shows. Pee Wee's BIG Adventure is what you were trying for.

    -B

  35. Re:24 missing seconds... by noims · · Score: 1

    This sketch was actually filmed as an animation and used in the game 'monty python and the quest for the holy grail', released in 1996.

    It's quite good, but it actually reads better.

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  36. Re:I hope they will include the trailer as well by noims · · Score: 1

    This is one of the things included in the game as well (see another post of mine). It is excellent.

    I didn't know the mandarin was correct tho'. Cool. Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Noims.

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  37. I do actually know what the 24 seconds will be. by noims · · Score: 2

    It's actually quite famous. It's an added 'meta'-scene in the castle Anthrax between where Galahad meets Dingo and where they walk together into the room to talk about spankings.

    I won't post the entire text of the scene ,but it starts off with Dingo saying how she does like this scene, and goes on (for 24 seconds) about whether or not they should include the scene in the film, ending finally with "Get on with it" shouted by all the soldiers from the near battle at the end.

    It's been shown on Channel 4 in England a couple of times, and is on a recent-ish (ie ~6 years old) VHS release.

    In gernal, it's quite good.

    Cheers,
    Noims.

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  38. Where to get extra grail footage, etc. by noims · · Score: 2

    I think part of the problem with getting extra footage for the DVD is that it's already used elsewhere.

    First off, there's the laserdisc that has additional commentaries and the like.

    The real gem, however, is the game 'monty python and the quest for the holy grail' released by 7th level in 1996 available for Windows only, afaik. Not only does it have an animated version of the King Brian the Wild sketch, but also several hilarious cinema ads. No real extra footage though.It features voice acting by several Pythons (Michael's stuff is what I remember most), but this is general bizarreness aot anythin to do with the movie (eg Micheal just saying "don't tempt me, Betty" when you click on a curtain in a tent in one of the scenes).

    If you're into all this kind of bizarreness, there's also a Meaning of Life game by 7th level with a lot of similar stuff. An excellent buy. Otherwise there's "Monty Python's Complete Waste of Time" which is based on the series.

    That should keep y'all busy.

    Cheers,
    Noims.

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  39. Re:What has happened to the cast? by twoflower · · Score: 1

    John Cleese made many industrial training films as well. Terry Gilliam has directed and produced quite a few. Michael Palin has worked lots for the BBC in various television series.

    Graham Chapman did several non-Python movies before he died.
    Eric Idle has worked almost continuously in movies, television, and radio.
    Terry Jones does a lot of production and direction.

    Really, this isn't hard to find out -- you just haven't kept up.


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  40. Re:What has happened to the cast? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

    Terry Gilliam wrote/produced/directed/whatever the following (feel free to add more if you know of others). Most of the movies below also uncannily are in my top 20 movies of all time list.. :)

    The Fisher King
    12 Monkeys
    Time Bandits
    The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
    Brazil
    Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

    Eric Idle plays lots of smaller "roles", such as in Mom and Dad Save The Planet.

    John Cleese, see Fish Called Wanda and Fierce Creatures.

    Those are the only three I've seen on the screen in awhile, so hope this helps some.

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  41. Re:I know what the 24 seconds will be SPOILER WARN by raffe · · Score: 1

    No, the missing 24 seconds are that lancelot is standing in mud on his knees. He is moving forward slowlly. Thats it.

  42. thank goodness.. the current dvd SUCKS. by uncleFester · · Score: 2

    I've yet to buy it.. the main reason; I know the LD (yes, the big shiny record-size thingies [yes, records, the big black plastic-like thingies]) had an audio track with commentary of the making of the film. Something I actually heard once when Grail was shown on Comedy Central. Something I was pissed being left off. Something I hope to hell makes it on this re-release.

    Now if only we could get the Godfather trilogy on DVD, I'd never have to leave the house again.

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    1. Re:thank goodness.. the current dvd SUCKS. by halbritt · · Score: 1

      Really?!? Wow!?! It's about fucking time.

    2. Re:thank goodness.. the current dvd SUCKS. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

      Knock, knock, knock.

      Me: Sorry, is this /. ?
      /.er: y35, why?

      Me: I mean is this the place where stupid, anticompetitive technologies like DVD are debunked in a daily basis and where the geekactivists assemble to suggest how to combat them with all their might?

      /.er: N4h! It i5 411 p0stur1ng. H4v3 U g0t 50m3 pr0n in DVD btw?

      Me: ? :-(

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  43. Re:Lemon Curry? by Stalky · · Score: 1

    Indeed. Would the Pythons ever have come about without the Goons to show them the way?

    Ying-tong-iddle-i-po!

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  44. And the extra 24 seconds are: (spoilers ahead!) by barryblack · · Score: 2

    The 24s will probably be the extra 24 s found on the special edition laser disk. I haven't seen it in years, but as I recall it has something to do with different characters talking about what is the best scene in the movie. I believe they are debating the merrits of the vergins in the castle, with some characters thinking it is no more than a sad attempt to make some "pusy" jokes. Not really all that funny.
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    1. Re:And the extra 24 seconds are: (spoilers ahead!) by Eil · · Score: 2


      This is not the extra 24 seconds, but in my official Montry Python and The Holy Grail scriptbook (not an original, but a retail book released after the movie, complete with behind-the-scenes notes) there is an entire scene X'ed out. I'd gladly reproduce it here while we're in the whole Python spirit, but alas, I left the book back home. I seem to remember it had something to do with Arthur and Team going to another kingdom and talking to another king. It didn't seem very funny.

    2. Re:And the extra 24 seconds are: (spoilers ahead!) by Jbrecken · · Score: 1

      I would have guessed it was the cartoon that was your prize at the end of the computer game.

    3. Re:And the extra 24 seconds are: (spoilers ahead!) by waterlogged · · Score: 1

      The extra 24 seconds are contained within the walls of aaaarrrrrraaaaa.......

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  45. The missing 24 seconds, laserdisc commentary, etc by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 5
    I think it's great they're re-releasing Holy Grail. Easily the most innovative, creative, and funny film of the Monty Python series (though I have the others and they are quite good by themselves).

    I thought I would share that the missing 24 seconds, if you weren't aware, are from Castle Anthrax, ("I can face the peril!") featuring a few quick cuts of girls doing generally bad things that you wouldn't discuss over a cup of tea with your grandmother.

    Anyway.

    One other story I'd like to share is from the Criterion Collection's laserdisc release of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. A fabulous edition that you can now, thanks to the death of laserdisc, get super cheap on ebay (I found it for less than $20, including shipping). On it is a fantastic commentary with Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones. Here is a comment from Terry Gilliam on the first American screening. I'm paraphrasing here, but the gist is the same:

    "On our first screening, in New York, I couldn't believe the response. People were lined up around the block. I was nervous as hell, not believing what I was seeing. Saturday Night Live had yet to hit TV's across the country, and sketch comedy was generally something thought as avant garde at the time. After the screening, a couple came up to me and told me how much they respected Monty Python and loved my work. I thanked them and told them I appreciated the support.

    The two were Gilda Radner and John Belushi."
    - Terry Gilliam

  46. New hof category by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2

    Rob needs a new hof category: most moderated posting.
    -russ

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  47. The Slashdot remake by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2

    The Slashdot remake would star Natalie Portman as one of the virgins.
    -russ

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  48. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by slickwillie · · Score: 2

    Maybe it's just that there hasn't been anything as funny since. I mean Tom Green sucking cow tit just isn't funny.

  49. Re:What has happened to the cast? by slickwillie · · Score: 3

    Good riddance to him, the freeloading bastard.

  50. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by tadas · · Score: 1

    In quoting from the Pirhana Brothers sketch, you inadvertantly support the timelessness of the comedy.

    How many Americans are aware that the "Pirhana Brothers" are actually based on the real-life British criminals the Cray brothers? I didn't when I first saw the sketch on a PBS broadcast in the '70s, but several years later I was reading a book about famous British criminals & almost did a spit take when reading about the Crays...

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  51. Coming out on DVD? by (startx) · · Score: 1

    I've allready got it on DVD, and VHS, and laserdisc, and Divx, and MPEG, and VCD, and asf....... what are they talking about? a re-release maybe? it's like $17 at bestbuy.com

  52. Re:Kick ass. by infodragon · · Score: 2

    And there was much rejoycing.

    YEAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

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  53. I dunno... by wiredog · · Score: 2

    sound of screaming while falling off bridge

  54. unreleased? by Anopheles · · Score: 1
    I remember having a LaserDisc with "24 Seconds of unreleased footage".. On the laserdisc, the extra footage was an introduction- auditions to find the right person to lead into the greatest story ever told, going through several people, and firing them before they get 10 seconds into their lines. My favorite was a Japanese take of the lines...

    It wasn't too bad, but is probably more appropriate to be a trailer, I think. Maybe this movie will have a different 24 seconds of unreleased footage?

    1. Re:unreleased? by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      I don't have a link just at the moment but there is a trailer with that in it. *Very* funny of course. I have always agreed with David Drake that the credits are just great. I wonder if this is the unrelease footage that Comedy Central was going on about a few years ago.

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  55. Fantastic! by nakaduct · · Score: 2

    A whole new generation of irritating fans! It looked, for a while, like their numbers would taper off as they succumbed to acne-medicine overdoses and lynchings. I now know I'll be long dead before the last nonsensical "Ni!" is injected into an otherwise-enjoyable conversation.

    cheers,
    mike

  56. Re:What has happened to the cast? by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
    And don't forget John Cleese as 'The Bomb' and Terry Jones as the Parrot in Douglas Adams' computer game Starship Titanic.

    John Cleese is also set to take over HMSS' Q division, having appeared in The World Is Not Enough as R. (How long will it be before he's admonishing 007 to grow up? :-) )

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  57. X'd out scene. (probably not a spoiler) by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    One of the scripts that I saw I don't think was ever shot --

    After crossing the Bridge of Fate, Arthur and Bedevere come across a boat on the edge of a late. And the old man appears again, and says something to the effect of:

    'Those who wish to cross the sea of fate must answer me these questions twenty eight'

    The knights grab the old man, throw him in the water, and take his boat.

    [But the news article made it sound like the a Holy Grail DVD is new...it was among the first four I ever bought -- Holy Grail; Labyrinth; Dark Crystal; Army of Darkness]

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  58. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Desert+Raven · · Score: 2

    >>It says a lot more about geek culture than about the quality of Monty Python's work that they've persisted as long as they have. <<

    My my, what big egos we have here. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not just geeks who are die-hard Monty Python fans. Better than half the employees at the ambulance company my wife works for spontaneously recite Python quotes at appropriate/inappropriate moments. "It's just a flesh wound!" Most of them aren't even old enough to have seen ANY episodes while they were still being produced.

    Python is still popular because it's that good. No political correctness, no over-sensitivity, just pure timeless fun. (and fanatical devotion to the pope)

  59. Lemon Curry? by grytpype · · Score: 1

    o
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    ohh ohhh
    ohhhh!

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    1. Re:Lemon Curry? by tb3 · · Score: 1

      Shut! Up! Eccles!

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  60. hype up what? by CrayDrygu · · Score: 2
    "it's only being shown in certain cities on certain days to hype up the release of the movie on DVD"

    Say what? I've had the Holy Grail on DVD for months now, and I know it was out for quite some time before *I* bought it...

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  61. Re:you are stupid by Enoch+Root · · Score: 2

    Of course, if you had an ounce of pop culture, you wouldn't live in your parents' basement.

  62. Re:Why?! by radja · · Score: 2

    >A good joke is timeless. If you don't find the joke humoruous, that's your loss, not mine...

    indeed, and calling full house better than monty python is a classic ;)

    //rdj

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  63. All I can say to this is: by Johan+Veenstra · · Score: 1

    I bow to the master, I bow deeply. Thank you for reviving a very pleasant memory, I'm already searching for my hole grail vhs-tape.

    Johan V.

  64. Re:I know what the 24 seconds will be by sconeu · · Score: 2

    The LA Daily News claimed that the extra 24 seconds are with Galahad in Castle Anthrax.

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  65. Already on DVD by StrawberryFrog · · Score: 1
    The theatrical release is part of a promotion for the fall release of a DVD version (of Holy Grail). ... Palin said DVD packages for "Life of Brian" ... might follow.

    This is disinformation at best.

    I have owned both of these on DVD for over a year. Maybe he means that it is coming out in the European zone on DVD soon (this DVD zone is where I live, like that would stop me). Another reason not to play anong with this DVD zone nonsense.

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    1. Re:Already on DVD by ckd · · Score: 2
      This is disinformation at best.

      Not necessarily. The rumors I've been hearing on one or another of my usual DVD news/rumor sites say that the upcoming DVD release will be a special edition with a commentary track, the 24 seconds of extra footage (which I suspect is the same extra footage found on the old Criterion laserdisc), and other spiffy new features.

      And this would be a Region 1 disc.

    2. Re:Already on DVD by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is on DVD - with shamefully little in terms of extras ("Special Features: Interactive Menus, Dolby, Dead Parrot Feather"). I've been waiting for a DVD rerelease patiently. Now, with this news, the "Platoon" DVD rerelease out, and the news of the Godfather trilogy coming in October...I'm just orgasmic. I do suggest, btw, that for "Life of Brian" you should look no further than the Criterion Collection version. It's a little pricey, but it has commentary from everyone (with the exception of Chapman, of course)!

  66. Why?! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3

    A good joke is timeless. If you don't find the joke humoruous, that's your loss, not mine...

  67. 24 More Seconds! by blazerw11 · · Score: 1

    Now go ayway or I will taunt you a secohnt time!

    Repeated six extra times would give you the extra 24 secohnts and the movie would only be better!

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  68. Re:DVD has been around for some time now by mike_markley · · Score: 1

    Hmm... from what I hear, though, the new HG DVD is gonna be on The Criterion Collection.

    Totally worth it. (Besides, I don't own the older release :). Which reminds me, I need to order the Criterion "Life of Brian"...

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  69. Re:I hate to break it to you by mike_markley · · Score: 1

    I know you're joking, but the strike is over :)

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  70. Re:I hate to break it to you by mike_markley · · Score: 1

    Er, shoulda said "the threat of strike is over"...

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  71. I know what the 24 seconds will be by Jailbrekr · · Score: 5

    It will be 24 seconds of them discussing about the previously unseen 24 seconds of footage..... and it'll prolly go on for at least 5 minutes.....

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    1. Re:I know what the 24 seconds will be by dex-Z · · Score: 1

      You are right about that but it will probably last about 10 minutes and then get in to something else about the 24 second thing and so on so in reality it will not end for awhile!!! Watch out Titanic and Peral Harbor we got a long movie coming!!!!

  72. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by selectspec · · Score: 1
    I have a theory about Monty Python.

    The theory is mine. I came up with the theory in its entirely, and only I should take credit for its creation. The theory is not GPL'd so don't fuck with my theory.

    The theory is this:

    Monty Python according to my theory, an idea that occured to me, and no one else, can be best understood in the following way:

    The theory is as follows:

    Taking them as a whole, the perspective of my approach, one can clearly see, although only I have noted this observation, the point of view and prinicples outlined within my theory, a theory belonging to me, and to no one else.

    The theory:

    Monty Python is not a snake.

    This is my theory, my theory along, beloning to me...

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  73. Holy Grail Script by selectspec · · Score: 3
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    1. Re:Holy Grail Script by broken77 · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that I don't have every line of the movie memorized... I know I'm not the only one who visits this site that can say that :-)

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  74. Re:Which regional encoding? African or European? by wcb4 · · Score: 1

    it can't be region 1. The article says The theatrical release is part of a promotion for the fall release of a DVD version. the region 1 dvd is already released. I already have it and have converted it to video cd so that I can take it anywhere I want and play it on any machine. (I prefer vcd to divx because it also plays on most dvd players as well

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  75. Re:What has happened to the cast? by jheinen · · Score: 2

    Eric Idle also plays the owner of the magazine on the series "Suddenly Susan." -Jeff
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  76. Re:What has happened to the cast? by ArtDent · · Score: 1

    Terry Jones wrote a novel, published in 1997, based on Douglas Adams' computer game Starship Titanic. He tries to immitate Adams' writing style, but comes up short.

  77. chuck out cartoon network than by epeus · · Score: 1

    All the classic cartoons (tom & jerry, chuck jones & tex avery) are full fo references to old cultrual concepts. The wartime ones can be particularly cryptic. My kids still find them funny though.

  78. Bloody vikings by epeus · · Score: 1

    ...

  79. Terry Gilliam's first net experience by epeus · · Score: 5

    That reminds me. Long ago in 1992, when the net was younger than it is now, I was working in London for the MultiMedia Corporation on a CD-Rom with Douglas Adams. He was friends with the various pythons, and he suggested that Terry Gilliam dropped in to see what we were doing with our computers.

    We showed him our CD-ROM titles, and an early version of QuickTime, and mentioned Usenet in passing. he expressed interest, so we sat him down in front of the Mac that had the modem (in our cable cupboard) and showed him alt.fan.monty-python.

    He was fascinated, and sat there reading it for at least 40 minutes. I remember him seeing someone ask for the script to Holy Grail and him posting his production company address for them to get a copy (of course somone else posted the entire script the next day, and no-one ever believed that Terry Gilliam was posting from our address).

    1. Re:Terry Gilliam's first net experience by sunhou · · Score: 1

      (Story about Terry Gilliam finding his Usenet newsgroup, reading it, posting to it, and people not believing it was him...)

      The very same thing happened with Douglas Adams. He visited the Santa Fe Institute when I was there (I think it was around 1993 or 1994). We showed him his newsgroup, which he got a kick out of. He posted replies to a couple of questions. Nobody believed it was him. (Adams was a really interesting guy in person, too.)

  80. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by phunhippy · · Score: 1

    Kinda wish i had moderator status right now.. not sure if i would rate this as flamebait or Funny... still debating hehe.. NIIIII!

  81. Re:Extra footage by inquisitor · · Score: 1

    Yip... I remember seeing that on a version of "Grail" I taped off BBC1 (UK), and not on a rented CBS/FOX (late 80s) videotape of it. Seemed about 24 seconds to me. This lost 24 seconds apparently appears in the "Holy Grail" video game and all UK releases since about 1995.

    The Castle Anthrax scene is lovely, though, even without it. And I wish they'd put in the King Brian the Wild scene...but I believe the Pythons ran out of cash (the reason that ending is in there). What a pity...

  82. ex-Python Chapman by kindbud · · Score: 1

    Graham Chapman is stone cold dead. He is an ex-Python. If his feet weren't nailed to the... oh never mind.

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  83. You who are so wise in the ways of science. by wharfrat · · Score: 1

    What is the flight volocity of an unlaiden swollow?

    European or African?

    1. Re:You who are so wise in the ways of science. by CACSlave · · Score: 1
      I'd rather be known as "Line From That Movie" guy than "I hide behind the Post Anonymously button" guy.

      The only important label is the one you put on yourself.

  84. way to get my hopes up by cheezus · · Score: 2
    we're not talking a star wars type re-release here. it's only being shown in certain cities on certain days to hype up the release of the movie on DVD. there's fat chance it will ever make it to anywhere within a few hours driving distance of where i live.

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    1. Re:way to get my hopes up by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'd say the chances of Grand Forks getting this is quite low...Winnipeg might be a closer possibility than Minneapolis if it's shown in Canada as well.

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  85. Re:What has happened to the cast? by Borogove · · Score: 1

    I'm sure everyone noticed that Dr. Vosknocker in South Park: BL&U was played by Eric Idle. And don't forget John Cleese as 'The Bomb' and Terry Jones as the Parrot in Douglas Adams' computer game Starship Titanic.
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  86. I hope they will include the trailer as well by brinkie · · Score: 2

    I won't post the entire text of the scene ,but it starts off with Dingo saying how she does like this scene, and goes on (for 24 seconds) about whether or not they should include the scene in the film, ending finally with "Get on with it" shouted by all the soldiers from the near battle at the end.

    My parents have long ago videotaped The Holy Grail from Dutch public television, I copied the tape to VHS (it was recorded on the now obsolete Video2000 system) and have seen the movie many, many times :) This version had some differences compared to the versions I have seen fairly recently on Net5 (Dutch commercial station) and the BBC. The scene with Zoot's worrying twin sister and "Get on with it!!!" is included in the old show, for sure. But I don't know if that scene has been left out in the newer shows, I should check the other two tapes.

    Apart from that, the old show is in letterbox format (widescreen) and it has a trailer in which the Monty Python team apparently tries to hire an announcer. You see Arthur and a knight (Bedevere? I recall this from memory), with Arthur "knighting" (correct my English pse) the other with his sword. You hear a candidate saying "Once upon a time..." but the first candidates are lousy speakers ("Un-ce aa-pon aa ti-me..."), and they are replaced, "Next!" (I think that's Eric Idle). The scene starts over time and time again. Then you see the castle in the background collapse (it's only a model :)) and Arthur apparently gets bored, so he stabs the knight. Then a Chinese speaker turns up. It looks like this is the perfect announcer (with English subtitles), but it turns out to be a Chinese restaurant commercial ("Only 5 minutes from this theatre!"). I have a Mandarin speaking girlfriend and she confirmed that the Chinese is genuine.
    After that, the movie starts, with the fake Swedish subtitles and so on. (Is this the reason the Muppets' Swedish Chef becoming so popular among geeks?)

    -brinkie

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  87. Re:What has happened to the cast? by eu4ik · · Score: 1

    Eric Idle also provided voices for the CDROM Discworld game. I'm surprised you didn't mention that, twoflower.

  88. Re:What has happened to the cast? by tokengeekgrrl · · Score: 1
    Really, this isn't hard to find out -- you just haven't kept up.

    Hence, why I'm asking. Thanks for the information.

    - tokengeekgrrl

  89. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by tokengeekgrrl · · Score: 1
    I stand corrected. My extremely conservative, Catholic parents, however, weren't offended and allowed me to watch them so that's my frame of reference.

    - tokengeekgrrl

  90. What has happened to the cast? by tokengeekgrrl · · Score: 2
    John Cleese has made a few movies. Terry Gilliam has directed a few. Michael Palin I believe has landed some TV sitcom roles. What about Graham Chapman, Eric Idle and Terry Jones? Where did they go? They all are so whacked and talented which is desperately needed given the mindless mediocre drivel that is put out by the major studios.

    - tokengeekgrrl

    1. Re:What has happened to the cast? by jedwards · · Score: 1

      Graham Chapman got a permanent position pushing up the daisies :-(

    2. Re:What has happened to the cast? by Smuffe · · Score: 1

      Graham Chapman unfortunately died of cancer. Eric Idle has directed a movie or two and I'm not sure, but I think he's landed a couple of theater gigs. Terry Jones seems to be around the directors chair as well.

    3. Re:What has happened to the cast? by geomcbay · · Score: 1
      Eric Idle has been a slew of movies, usually in bit parts, and has done a lot of voice work as well.

      Graham Chapman is, well, dead, so he isn't doing much these days.

      IMDB (www.imdb.com) is a pretty great resource for looking things like this up, btw.

    4. Re:What has happened to the cast? by Regolith · · Score: 1

      I know I've seen Eric Idle in at least a couple of the Chevy Chase Vacation movies. Has he moved more into directing now?

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  91. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by tokengeekgrrl · · Score: 2
    It says a lot more about geek culture than about the quality of Monty Python's work that they've persisted as long as they have.

    Except that some of us started watching Monty Python's Flying Circus and various movies before we were ever geeks. Monty Python is unique in that they make fun of conservative cultural values and religion in such a way that they don't piss anyone off. Why? Because they're funny. Because there is something about the social properness that is conveyed by the British accent accompanied with insanity and nonsense that evokes humor. Canadian comedians like Kids in the Hall have the same quality about them as well; however, it is a quality, I think, that most American comedians have not and may never master and a timeless one that can appeal to anyone of any generation, in my opinion. Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl, for example, is brilliantly funny.

    - tokengeekgrrl

  92. Re:Check out BBC.co.uk by tokengeekgrrl · · Score: 2
    Thank you so much for the information. I've already seen all the movies you have listed. Brazil is one of my favorites. I was thinking in terms of within the past decade up until today.

    Regards,
    tokengeekgrrl

  93. Some random 411 by mshomphe · · Score: 1

    The first showing, in Los Angeles, has already sold out (not surprisingly). John Cleese and Eric Idle will be making personal appearences there, at the NuArt Theater.

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  94. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Lucretius · · Score: 2

    Perhaps I should have taken a little bit of a different angle on this one. So, I'll take it here. Comedy is much like literature (in fact, its pretty much is literature). Now, literature, for the most part, never goes bad. Its not wine, its not going to turn into vinegar. However, this is not to say that it is always as relevant as it once was. Certain genres of literature age better than others, and in many cases the literature of comedy doesn't age well because it takes into account a much greater amount of social norms and social situations of the time in which it was written. This means that the comedy in it is subject to the knowledge of what was going on at the time... there is a pre-requisite to finding this stuff humorous.

    Now, certain forms of comedy were able to get by this as they appealed to certain subjects (such as sexuality) that pretty much just stayed relevatn throughout the ages. If George Carlin tried to do his "Seven Words You Can't Say on Television" skit in a place that didn't have TV, they wouldn't find it funny at all since they had absolutely no background knowledge which was required for the joke.

    So, the point of this long winded diatribe is simply that the jokes can still be funny, the do not go obsolete so long as the requisite knowledge is maintained. Python will remain funny so long as people know the background information which makes them funny.

    As someone else pointed out here, sophisticated humor seems to last longer than others. That is mostly because the requisite knowledge for sophisication has not changed all that much through different time periods. I know that there are some differences, saying that would just be dumb. However, this gets back to the cannon... there are certain books that people are supposed to read, and rather than replacing books in the cannon, books are just added to it. So, if you make jokes that refer back to stuff like that, then people are going to be getting them for a much longer time period than commenting on something much more ephemeral.

    So, to pull of this back together. Comedy does not become obsolete like technology in the sense that so long as people have some sort of knowledge of what made it funny in the first place, it will still be considered funny. Since most humorists work with a common base (else people wouldn't find them funny), and this common base is passed on throughout the ages, the comedy is passed as well.

    OK, so this argument isn't perfect, but its not bad for having about 5 minutes to think about it before writing it down.

  95. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Lucretius · · Score: 3

    Well, I will say one thing for this post, it definitely has attracted quite a bit of attention and quite a bit of responses, so I figure its time for me to do my part and have part in this lovely little response fest as well. Afterall, what is life without mob mentality (She's a witch!!!).

    There's been a whole lot of progress in the last thirty years. Monty Python may have been pioneers of a sort, and they sure made the BBC cringe like no one had before. But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? No.

    Well, there has been a whole lot of progress in all sorts of things. But does it make those things which made the foundation upon which the other stuff stands obsolete? Not at all... comedy is not technology, it does not become obsolete . When one thinks about it, why would comedy become obsolete? We could really get into the theory of comedy (I know many a person who has taken the class), but that's just going to be wasting our time. A good deal of Python's comedy was done in such a way that it was rather universal, which is why they succeeded in many different cultures rather than just ours.

    Saying that comedy becomes obsolete like technology is like saying that literature becomes obsolete like technology. Thus, we should not go back and read anything that was prodcued before 1995 as it has all been said more recently and more relevant to our times. This is hardly ever the case. Quite often, the newer material is stuff that was pretty much ripped off from the original and done in the manner of a cheap hack, which would then give me less pleasure than the pure original. Why then would I bother with something that is modern and not purely original when I could have the pure sources? Well, that is simple as well... they new people have something new to offer above and beyond what the original source did.

    What conclusions have we come to in this posting. Basically that saying anything old is categorically better than something new is wrong, and vice versa. Python continues to exist and be popular because people enjoy it, and other stuff isn't as appealing to them. It will continue to be so as long as these conditions exist.

    By the way, I'll try to ignore the fact that you even brought up Full House in comparison to Holy Grail and Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

  96. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by NearlyHeadless · · Score: 1
    Did anybody look at the moderation totals for this post:

    Moderation Totals:Flamebait=4, Troll=3, Insightful=5, Interesting=1, Informative=3, Funny=2, Overrated=6, Total=24.

  97. you are stupid by Khopesh · · Score: 1

    no.
    You are stupid. Your grammar (or your french impersonation) sucks.
    Demonstrating knowledge of the movie in such a manner is not funny (except the allyourgrail line).
    Perhaps if your lines actually sounded like the came from the movie rather than some offlander's partial recollection, I'd have laughed. I guess that just goes to show that posting as fast as possible has its downsides (preview? what does that mean?).

    You don't frighten me, anonymous pig-dog!
    this should be Score: 3, Funny. not FIVE. ...and from zero! I feel violated.

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  98. Re:The missing 24 seconds, laserdisc commentary, e by Khopesh · · Score: 3

    oh, you mean the stuff about bunnies? (right after Zoot mentions knitting exciting underwear and in similar scenes with her in Anthrax)

    that's in the director's cut. ...and should NOT be part of the extra 24seconds. hopefully that will be on the DVD's cut scenes; it's too silly to be funny in the same nature as the rest of the film, even given the film's zaniness.

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  99. Re:I hate to break it to you by MajroMax · · Score: 1
    Yes, we all love it, but do you really want to be a pawn for the studios, watching this scab movie while underpaid screen writers strike in solidarity?

    If it means that they're going to re-release Monty Python, then yes.

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  100. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by nobody69 · · Score: 1

    I wish I had mod points to give you, sir.

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  101. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by malfunct · · Score: 1
    I disagree with your premise. How "good" a song is can be measured many different ways. Its obvious that the qualities that the song had when it was popular are still present today, I mean the music did not change. The value that people assign to those qualities however has changed.

    In the end people that have real quality music will have a certain amount of popularity for the rest of time like Elvis. The same thing goes for quality humor like Month Python.

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  102. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by malfunct · · Score: 1

    What I was trying to state and did so so poorly is that "goodness" is not measured by his opinion or my opinion but by something else. Moreover I was saying that if a song is truely good (or humor for that matter) then it won't matter what the popular opinion of the times is, that song or humor will have a following and will also still be good.

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  103. Holy Grail Action Figures by cruelshoes · · Score: 1

    Here's a link to the Holy Grail Action Figures sideshowtoy.
    They come as a set and will be shipping in October.

    As stated on Fark 'What, no shrubbery?'.

  104. Re:I bet there's nudity by tim_uk · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't you?

  105. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Dlugar · · Score: 1

    Apparently somebody chose "Insightful".

    Moderators--sheesh!


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  106. Eric idle... by pallex · · Score: 1

    ...Has been in a lot of crap since, and refuses to attend just about any Monty Python related event.

    A friend attended one such gathering and heard the announcement:

    "Due to an attack of bitterness, Eric Idle will not be attending this evenings event!"

    I`ve often seen him talking via satellite link from the States, while the others are all gathered together in a studio.

  107. Re:Kick ass. by CleverNickName · · Score: 3
    And there was much rejoycing. YEAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

    Actually, it was "Yaaay." Without enthusiasm. Now you try it.

    Better, better, but "Yaaay." From the back of the throat.

    That's it!

    Oh, you wanted an interesting comment? It's karma whoring in here.

    "Karma whoring? What a stupid concept!"

  108. Re:DVD has been around for some time now by coastcat · · Score: 1

    I read an article some months ago that mentioned how the residents of a small village were highly amused at two rather confused visitors - Michael Palin and Terry Jones. They were there, complete with camera crew, attempting to film at one of the sites used in Holy Grail (cave of the killer rabbit, I think). Problem was, they couldn't remember where it was.

    The article did mention this was for a new DVD release of Holy Grail, so expect some good "making of" commentary!

  109. Why? by thridur · · Score: 1

    A couple years ago, a local theater showed the Holy Grail as part of a midnight movie series on Saturday nights. Let's just say it was somewhat frustrating. Do you really want to sit in a theater full of people who all think they know the lines and insist on speaking along with the people on screen? It's much more enjoyable just to watch it on video at home and recite the lines with a few of your buddies. :)

    1. Re:Why? by stinkydog · · Score: 2


      Have you ever heard of the Rocky Horror picture Show?

      Who knows where this qoute is from (besides myself)?

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    2. Re:Why? by Alatar · · Score: 1
      Dammit, Janet, you're a slut.

      Hey, Kool-aid!

  110. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by plorqk · · Score: 1

    Who do you think you are Anne Elk? Aaaaaah!!!

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  111. Re:Why Holy Grail Rocks by enneff · · Score: 1

    "expensive actors"

    Umm, somehow I don't think that even if they COULD afford 'expensive actors' that they'd replace themselves in their own movie...

    Besides, who could possibly be better at being rediculous but the Monty Python guys?


  112. and then ... spank me by Rev.LoveJoy · · Score: 1

    Oh ... well perhaps I could stay for a little while.

    1. Re:and then ... spank me by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

      and me!

  113. DVD's by jbischof · · Score: 1

    You know I thought the whole point of a DVD was that it could hold "oh so much more information than a cd or tape" but ever notice how you never get multiple movies on a dvd. Freaking big businesses are still milking us for every penny. Why can't I buy a simple DVD of all Monty Python movies, or at least of Holy Grail, Life of Brian, and Meaning of LIfe. Its because those punks want to charge you $15 per dvd, per movie.

  114. Why Holy Grail Rocks by jbischof · · Score: 5
    I will tell you what made holy grail funny.

    Its the fact that they were too cheap for expensive actors, or props, or special effects, and all they had was their wit and natural funniness. I mean the fact that they use coconut shells for horses isnt really all that funny unless you realize that they couldn't afford horses, and they realize that too, and they just make fun of it.

    Some of the newer stuff where they had money, and didn't make fun of themselves as much, isn't nearly as funny.

  115. Just cause of the NEE! by Nards · · Score: 1
    Too many NEEs here.

    So : Ecky-ecky-ecky- ecky-pikang-zoom-boing-mumble-mumble

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  116. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

    "World-wide fame does not equal goodness" No kidding. Baywatch anyone? Course, that could be a case of tits = goodness

  117. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by startled · · Score: 2

    So, I was reading this post, thinking, "wow! All those Flamebait mods-- what's up with that? He's got some good-- er, wait, what's that? But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed?"

    Well, congrats on a good troll. Surprisingly well-written. But if it was your intention to have me fooled, you should've left out Full House.

  118. Re:Kick ass. by panhead · · Score: 1

    aaaaaaaahhhhh and i hold a ticket to the june 15'th show at the nuart here in la btw eric idle and john cleese will be there :)

  119. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by connorbd · · Score: 2

    Add underrated +1... What a horrific waste of human life, er, mod points.

    /Brian

  120. Dreams do come true! by Smuffe · · Score: 1

    Wow! This is one of my favourite movies of all time! Only catch is, I didn't think the Python gang wanted this to be re-released?
    Anyway, its nice to get a chance to relive all the classic moments (Its just a flesh wound!) on the big screen. Anybody know if there is a DVD release of this film?
    /Smuffe

    1. Re:Dreams do come true! by anon757 · · Score: 1

      Yes, there is. I own it.

    2. Re:Dreams do come true! by mikehasnoluck · · Score: 1

      Yes there is, although I got my copy as a gift, so I don't know where it came from. I'd say you could probably get it on Amazon, but you know how we all feel about Amazon. ;)

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    3. Re:Dreams do come true! by Nos9 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they will offer it in a whole slew of languages, I have a bad (copy of a copy of a copy) copy of MP&HG in Japanese, adn well it is funny as hell just listening to your favorite punch lines being naught in the translaters sight blown to bits. FYI apparently 'ni' in Japanese is still 'ni'

  121. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Smuffe · · Score: 1

    But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? Seriously, do you really think Full House is better than Python? Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but come on!
    I agree however, that nostalgia is a powerful force, although I think you're stretching the conclusion a bit. ;D

  122. Re:Maybe in the future..... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
    We can have spam on DVD.

    You can, but it's not very tasty. I suggest spam on toast instead, or for something one might actually want to consume, perhaps you could also substitute something else for the spam.


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  123. this could be interesting by adpowers · · Score: 1

    I have only seen this movie once and it wasn't as good as I expected. Maybe I would have a different experience if I saw it in the theatre. Theatres always have different atmoshpheres then watching at home.
    Andrew

  124. Re:Which regional encoding? African or European? by signingis · · Score: 1

    It hit me about 2 seconds after I moved on to another website.

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  125. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by dr.g · · Score: 1

    And you know what's REEELY funny about that is that virtually every human being in this country doesn't think she's as good looking as they think "everybody" thinks she is.

    I think the pudgy-faced little cow is getting over.

    Besides, Tom Greens' comedic genius has evolved far from sucking teat...

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  126. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by dr.g · · Score: 1

    Bongo, Seanb, get over yourselves. Do you know how lame it is to allow your response to something be dictated by that of others, positive or negative?

    I'm kind of the same way, if too many people like something, I'm definitely leery of it. But that didn't stop me from liking "kid stuff" like SouthPark and Beavis and Butthead, and totally accepted stuff like the Simpsons.

    Maybe it's just more fun for ya to keep track of what uncool people like so you can set your sights carefully on properly cool stuff. Just doesn't seem worth it. MP is freakin' genius, man, and if you can afford to dislike genius comedy because people less tuned-in than yourselves enjoy it...good luck.

    Brad

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  127. Re:Which regional encoding? African or European? by dr.g · · Score: 2

    thank you, gentlemen...
    "A six-ounce swallow can't break 56-bit encryption."
    ...made my morning. Well, I'm off to surf the ol' Web now...

    "Wait, a minnit, that's not a web browser, you're usin' cocoanuts!"

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  128. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    World-wide fame does not equal goodness. I disagree that Full House is more funny than Monty Python but it's obscurity does not diminish its quality. How many Elvis songs do geeks still like today? Go back thirty years and I guarantee many more geeks liked Elvis. He was a star the world over, but his popularity does not make his songs as good today as they were then.

  129. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    Okay so Elvis and Monty Python will have staying power for eons because of the underlying quality of it. The original post was saying that times have changed and there is now programming more funny than Monty Python based on subjective values. Some of what people find funny is subjective, though there seem to be some world-wide constants. Are you claiming that goodness can be measured by popularity? Goodness is subjective. Star Trek was good but not popular when it was broadcast...

  130. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    Funny! Terribly harsh, but funny.

  131. FOR ALL YOU MODERATORS WHO CALLED THIS FLAMEBAIT by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    Flamebait is a "posting" or note on a bulletin board, a Usenet newsgroup, a Web site, or other public forum that is intended to elicit the extremely strong responses characteristic of flaming and active public discussions. To be effective, flamebait should be a bit subtle (but not too subtle) so that potential flamers will "take the bait." This term is similar to troll, which is an effort to get a reaction from readers but not necessarily for the purpose of eliciting flames.

  132. That's funny, I wasn't expecting a release of by taliver · · Score: 2

    The Holy grail, but then, maybe

    NOBODY EXPECTS THE RE-RELEASE



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  133. In response to your sig by InsaneGeek · · Score: 2

    Nice tuxedo, nice tuxedo to DIE in.

  134. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

    I don't know if this is a troll or not, but I mostly agree with this, except for one thing: I never found it funny.

    Now, I can appreciate most forms of humor. I love the humor of Blazing Saddles. I love the Simpsons. I liked A Fish Called Wanda. I love black humor. I even love the stupid humor of Airplane.

    But Monty Python has always caused me to shake my head and say "what is funny about this"? The formula seems to be "substitute random element in scene with a random object, and call it funny". For me, there has to be some modicum of cleverness, and I've just never seen any sort of cleverness in Monty Python.


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  135. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

    comedy is not technology, it does not become obsolete

    I don't think that is true. Ever watched any Keystone Cops? Or Laurel and Hardy? Or -- dare I say it -- I love lucy? These were considered hysterical in their time, but by today's standards, they seem quaint and unsophisticated. A lot of humor is timeless (Shakespeare), but a lot of it really requires living in the times and seeing it when it was innovative.


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  136. Is it the "Sea of Fate" bit? by mbourgon · · Score: 1

    I remember reading/hearing somewhere about a missing scene from the movie. I wonder if this is the extra bit. Timing-wise, it sounds right:

    (near the end, when they're about to get on the boat)

    "It's the bridgekeeper from scene 13!"
    "shhhh!"
    Bridgekeeper: "All ye who must cross the see of fate, must answer me these questions twenty-eight."

    the two knights look at each other

    together: RIGHT!
    the two knights pick up the bridgekeeper and throw him into the lake, then climb into the boat

    I really hope they add the commentary from the Criterion Laserdisc; that was easily as funny as the movie, and I loved the way that the two Terrys (the two Pythons who did the commentary) would wander off to talking about python, Graham showing up drunk, etc, etc, for minutes at a time, blindly ignoring the movie. It's priceless. If you have the chance, do get it.

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  137. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2
    Well, congrats on a good troll. Surprisingly well-written. But if it was your intention to have me fooled, you should've left out Full House.
    That's the beauty of it. Controversial but reasonable arguments and then something completely off. I've seen a few good trolls around here lately, and this is one of the better ones.
  138. Best thing about Monty Python: GREAT writers by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

    I think the BEST reason why Monty Python is so fondly remembered is the fact the writing for the show was so amazingly great much of the time.

    Remember the legendary Killer Joke sketch? I have really serious doubts that today's sitcom writers could have plotted out that long and wickedly funny sequence.

  139. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Ranalou · · Score: 3

    He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks- dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire. He was vicious.

    (Monty Python, Episode 14)

    --rana, who almost fell for this as serious until he read the "Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure" bit...

  140. Kick ass. by 68030 · · Score: 1

    All that needs to be said. (:

  141. Which regional encoding? African or European? by JohnTheFisherman · · Score: 5

    ;)

  142. Check out BBC.co.uk by jdev · · Score: 3
    There is an excellent summary of the Monty Python cast's careers on BBC's site. There's also a bunch of other good info in their special report on the show.

    They have really been too busy to put a thorough response here, but my personal fave's of their post-Monty Python work have been Brazil, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, and A Fish Called Wanda.

  143. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Alatar · · Score: 1
    Oh.
    My.
    God.

    People actually laugh at Shakespeare's jokes? Save me.

    No, shoot me.

  144. Re:I bet there's nudity by TheMightyZog · · Score: 1

    Ah, so then Sir Galahad does stay around for the spanking...

  145. Cut film's audio? by sheetsda · · Score: 1
    I'm not sure if this is the part of the scene they're adding back in, but some time ago I came across a short piece of audio cut from the Castle Anthrax scene of the movie. In case anyone wants to hear it, I just uploaded it to some of my webspace here

    "// this is the most hacked, evil, bastardized thing I've ever seen. kjb"

  146. Or it might be... by sheetsda · · Score: 2
    this. Found it a long time ago when I was surfing for the lyrics for the Kinghts of the Round Table song.

    "// this is the most hacked, evil, bastardized thing I've ever seen. kjb"

  147. The Not Noel Coward Song by saru78 · · Score: 1

    I'm really sorry about this, but while we're playing the monty python memory game, a classic for the ages

    Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis
    Isn't it frightfuly good to have a dong
    It's swell to have a stiffy
    It's divine to own a dick
    From the tiniest little tadger
    To the world's biggest prick

    So, three cheers for your Willy or John Thomas
    Hooray for your one-eyed trouser snake
    Your piece of meat your wife's best friend
    Your Percy or your cock
    You can wrap it up in ribbons
    You can slip it in your sock
    But don't take it out in public
    Or they will stick you in the dock
    And you won't ah come ah back

    thank you!

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  148. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by TheBongo · · Score: 1

    Well, I think during all time periods there was crap. I mean, have you seen some of the comedy movies/shows of the 60's? It's basically white kids running around doing naughty things and getting caught by mr. well to do daddy. Ha ha ha, big laugh storm after beaver left his bat at the field and now there is a funny scene at the field! Ha ha ha!

    Either that or they're being saved by their good for nothing border colly. Fucking lassie ruines everything.

  149. Holy Grail Audio Remastering by Mr.+Fusion · · Score: 2
    In the May 2001 issue of Film & Video Magazine, they interviewed André Jacquemin, who worked on remastering and transforming the audio tracks on the Holy Grail from mono to stereo. The article is available online at filmandvideomagazine.com, but here's part of it that I found interesting:

    "Basically, because modern sound equipment can handle so much more in the way of dynamics, we were able to get away with a lot more than we had before. With things like the explosion scenes at the end of Holy Grail, we could make them much more powerful...From the moment the first new music came up we realized we had something much better. Terry kept referencing back to the original and saying, 'I can't remember doing that!' We would bring it up and he'd say, 'Maybe we did do it like that."

    The article also mentions the re-release of Jabberwocky on DVD with a remastered 5.1 soundtrack, as well as the programs the dude used for remastering.

    -Mr. Fusion

  150. Re:Holy Grail Extended Edition by Mr.+Fusion · · Score: 2
    The only big difference is that Michael Palin came back to redo his narration for the re-release. The original audio tracks sounded very "boxy" and unclean, so they called him up to imitate himself from 30 something years ago. They also cleaned up all the sound effects and explosions to give it a stronger, more current feel. More info at filmandvideomagazine.com.

    -Mr. Fusion

  151. Re:Extra footage by sbest · · Score: 1

    I recall the laserdisk version of the Grail actually has the scenes leading up to the "Get On with it!" yell. It has Zuet's twin sister Nina worrying if doing this scene at all was a good idea, with multiple flashes to other cast members (Tim, Old Man from scene 24, etc) all encouraging her, with increasing emphasis, to "Get on with it". She finally gets on with it when the crowd yells at her...

  152. Dude... by thelexx · · Score: 1

    You're reading way too much into this. People still watch Chaplin and the Stooges for the love o'Pete. If something is really well done, almost no matter what it may be, it will generally have a fairly long shelf-life.

    BTW, who do you think will be remembered more 100 years from now? The Python players or PeeWee? Nuff said.

    LEXX

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  153. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by lyapunov · · Score: 2

    I disagree, the reason that the humor of Monty Python has persisted is that it appeals to all levels of a persons sense of humor, e.g. intellectual and physical gags. Most of the crap that is being produced now is simply done for shock value and not because it is really all that funny.

    I seriously doubt that the reason that Monty Python has survived the last few decades has little to do with the geek culture. But if that is the line of thinking that you need to rationalize your behaviour or deal with insecurity, then be my guest.

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  154. Nice URL by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1

    That Python URL (which for obvious reasons I'm not repeating) is one of the ones that pops up a hidden ad box. Nice. I was wondering if I'd ever get to see one. I hope you negotiated a good price.

  155. Maybe in the future..... by jarodss · · Score: 1

    We can have spam on DVD.
    Then we can show everyone that we are not Hommel eating freaks, we're just your average Python fans.

  156. hurrah! by Art_XIV · · Score: 1

    This is just too Neeeeeeeeeet!

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  157. Knights who Say Ni by Art_XIV · · Score: 1

    Hopefully the seating will be nice, but not too expensive.

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  158. Unseen footage: by spellcheckur · · Score: 1
    The easiest way to identify the new footage:

    Go see it in Boston (one of the 'lucky' cities getting the early release) and wait until you can actually hear the film.

    With a couple hundred MIT übergeeks reciting every line, they're gonna drown out the original soundtrack.

  159. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by rohar · · Score: 1

    Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs
    huh?


    Whatcha doooo with those rollin' papers?
    Make doooooobieees?

  160. Wow.. Fortran & Monty Python by rohar · · Score: 3

    Great to see that we are right on the bleeding edge today.


    Whatcha doooo with those rollin' papers?
    Make doooooobieees?

  161. Something as plainly timeless as this... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

    ...and you STILL mod up a pathetic posting like this.

    Did the moderators not notice that not ONE response to this posting agreed with it?

    Boy, is /. ever fucked up, whoda ever guessed that Monty Python would be one day slammed by the very geeks that patroned it!

    For shame!

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  162. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by geomcbay · · Score: 1
    I don't understand where Full House came from. Troll perhaps? Or is there some other Full House I'm not aware of (thinking of that terrible show with john stamos).

    However, Pee Wee's Big Adventure is actually a great movie/comedy. Still one of Tim Burton's finest films. The sequel was...not so good, IMO.

  163. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by geomcbay · · Score: 1
    I pretty much agree.

    Its clear some of the participants in Monty Python were talented -- As you said, A Fish Called Wanda was very funny (as was the psuedo-sequel, er, Dangerous Creatures I think?). They were, of course, (co)written by John Cleese, who was a member of Monty Python. And Terry Gilliam is a brilliant director.

    But when I watch the old Python stuff, TV series or movie, I just find myself not finding it very funny. Not because I don't 'get' it, because I do get the references, I just don't see much funny going on.

    OTOH, I've never cared much for a lot of the 'BBC stuff', the comedies or the sci-fi series or the offshoots of such....The big exception being Douglas Adams, whose work I liked very much.

  164. geeks don't go to theatres by wroot · · Score: 1

    geeks d/l mpegs and watch them.

  165. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by dossen · · Score: 1

    Fierce Creatures.

  166. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by deathscythe257 · · Score: 1

    But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? No.

    I hope that this is a satire

  167. Holy Grail Extended Edition by cosmo7 · · Score: 1
    I expect there will be a slew of CGI special effects spliced in just like those Star Wars reissues. I'm expecting:

    "real" horses - or possibly dinosaurs - to be inserted under the cast

    killer rabbit attack scene to feature stomach-churningly realistic dismemberment effects

    holy hand grenade explosion to be awesome Armageddon-style blast

    camelot to be surrounded by little alien creatures and disobedient banthas

    black knight scene to feature lightsabres

    chapman scenes to be digitally completed using archive footage of chapman from this movie

  168. 24 by loydcc · · Score: 2

    All they could dig up was 24 seconds? Are they saving 2 seconds for the DVD release at Christmas?

  169. 24 Whole seconds? by alexmogil · · Score: 1

    I'm really ambivalent about this. I seriously love the movie, but having seen the film billions of times, owning it on DVD, seeing the extra footage (if it's the extra footage I'm thinking of it's the 'Get on with it!!!' scenes)... I dunno. Stereo sound? Mmkay. There something more attractive about seeing this film at home where you can guffaw and sing along to a TV screen versus being in a theater with a bunch of people constantly correcting your dictation of little-known lines, or screaming NI! at every possible interval. Maybe that's just me. Stuff in theaters today isn't 1/10th as good as this film.Alex

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  170. I hate to break it to you by sllort · · Score: 2

    ...but this is just a natural consequence of the Hollywood Writer's Strike. Studios are saving what good scripts they have, hedging their bets with old cult classics and stuff like Monty Python. Yes, we all love it, but do you really want to be a pawn for the studios, watching this scab movie while underpaid screen writers strike in solidarity?

    The longer the studios can pull stuff like this, the more time they have to organize a flood of illegal Mexican writers to take the place of hard working American script writers. If we continue to allow the studios to recycle old movies while the Writers Guild withers, the lower the chances that the sequel to Battlefield Earth will ever be made.

    Don't pawn our future for a few cheap laughs. Rent it on video instead.

  171. I bet there's nudity by 6EQUJ5 · · Score: 2

    24 seconds -- just the right time for a geek to get off if it's some kind of sex scene...

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    1. Re:I bet there's nudity by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

      I know *I* would.

  172. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by bartle · · Score: 1

    Thirty years ago, sure. Back in the late sixties and early seventies, the civilized world plus Yorkshire was a bleak and desolate place devoid of joy and humor. But why do people still find Monty Python funny today? There's been a whole lot of progress in the last thirty years. Monty Python may have been pioneers of a sort, and they sure made the BBC cringe like no one had before. But do they really hold a candle to Full House or Pee Wee's Great Adventure or any of the other brilliant programs that have followed? No.

    No, you're wrong, people love it because it's funny. Perhaps you never got anything out of it, but a lot of other people have. As to why is it funny... one might as well ask why anything is funny. It's absurd and rediculous, yet all of it's humor is seeded with that all important grain of truth. Though it was meant to lampoon Morte D'Arthur, it's humor was a good deal more general than the subject matter. Not to mention the Python players, they played the whole thing through like actors rather than comedians.

    I saw Holy Grail for the first time nearly 10 years ago, I had to pause halfway through the opening credits because I was laughing so hard. In the years hence I've come across people from various backgrounds and with various interests that enjoyed the movie. I suspect far from dying out, the movie will remain popular for at least this next generation.

  173. ROCK ON!!! :) by TheGreatLeper · · Score: 1

    We can only hope that they continue this with the life of brian! :) I can't wait.. when can i order tickets again!?

  174. My thought: by ColGraff · · Score: 1

    Run away! Run away!

    Why are you making horse noises with coconut shells?

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  175. The thing that makes Monty Python special by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    The thing that makes Monty Python special isn't the way it spoofs everyday life and intellectuals all at the same time. It isn't the knights who say "nee" or the killer bunny or the nymphomaniacal nuns or even "Run away! Run Away!"

    What makes Monty Python truly a treasure is the sum of all of these, the simple fact that I am laughing as I write this, and yes, I did laugh when I read the oher posts quoting python. Not because of the quotes, but because of the scenes and movies they remind me of. Yes, you can take the knights who say "nee" and the killer bunner, and perhaps even the nuns, and say "this isn't funny." But put it all together with the complete sincerity of the actors, the unashamed cheesiness of the sets, and somehow the whole is funnier than any of the parts.

    The way that the characters react to their situations also increases the funniness factor. Those knights were truly terrified of a small bunny rabbit.

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  176. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

    "Anne Elk, Mrs." thank you very much! ;-)

  177. Only ~ $.29/sec by A+Commentor · · Score: 1

    So if the tickets cost $7, you will be paying about $0.29 per sec for the extra 24 secs...

    Since everyone has already seen the rest of the movie enough times to recite by memory, you can't associate any of the $7 to original film.

    Do you need buy.com coupons

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  178. 24 missing seconds... by Anomynous+Cowand · · Score: 3
    ...is just not enough.

    I was hoping they would include the "King Brian the Wild" segment from the original script. That was a seriously funny bit.

    For those who haven't at least read it, King Brian is a bit "authoritarian." All of his subjects were missing one of their arms, presumably because an arm offended the king one day. (Except for the archers, who are missing one leg, but that's a different gag.) Anyway. King Brian doesn't like close harmony groups. Well, he has auditions for close harmony groups, and for every group that auditions he has the aforementioned archers execute when they've finished! The king enjoys this immensely.

    King Arthur and his men pass through his land, and are "pressed" into auditioning, even though they consider themselves more of a "chorus" than a "close harmony group." Not too many close harmony groups are auditioning these days, so they're always trying to get new talent in the door for the king's amusement.

    Anyway, it's a great bit, too bad they didn't have it on film. After reading the script, I was hoping that it was simply cut from the final release, rather than never having been filmed at all.

  179. Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more? by dex-Z · · Score: 1

    Drew Barrimore looked pretty nice to me in the recent films she was in. But i agree she has lost her touch!!!