Now all we need is for Sarek of Vulcan to be flying nearby and detect his warp trace. Then the Vulcans will know that we are not primitive for them.
(For the Treck illiterate: Xephran Cochran was an amature rocketeer who invented the warp drive. On his first flight Sarek of Vulcan detected his warp train and the rest is history...well maybe not history exactly...)
I'm not sure that anyone has the right to down load porn whereever they want. No one can stop them if they want it but no one has to allow it either--there is nothing to compell a library to allow porn on thier computers.
Would you claim that a Library must carry Pornographic magazines in order to not violate a 19 yr. olds right to see them as well?
I do have some reservations though, over time some books have been called pornographic, who makes those standards etc... is never a pretty topic. The point is that there is a slippery slope once we start banning where do we stop.
On the other hand I've seen first hand how the library in my university was turned into a virtual red light distirct.
Whereas this move seems to run against the ethos that many in this forum hold dear (namely, that the internet is to be about freedom i.e. exchange of ideas yada yada yada), there really is very little that we could od about it.
I suppose that we (the larger internet community) could choose to boycott them. I mean literally not send anything to them, request anything from them, rout around them all together etc... But that seems pointless in that it would run counter to our own ethos and probably not bother them at all.
We could also try to e-mail bomb them with freedom of expression stuff, but I as fun as that sounds I doubt highschool type pranks would accomplish much of anything.
In the end though, when you think about it this is not a major rights infringement considering what other countries in that region do to thier own citizens.
Assuming that the bill does go through and does do exactly what it says it will do I am still left with one question--so what? No one reads those long statements, I know I certainly won't spend my time on the web reading borring privacy statements, and therefore, they could easily contain elastic clauses that would permitt them to give your information to others.
What it boils down to is that if you agree to a site's privacy policy then they can do what you agreed to let them do-just like anyother contract.
The only thing that I see as keeping companies in line is the ability to sue, but not just on an individual level. The threat of a Class action suit from litterally tens of thousands of users should be enough to keep just about everyone in line.
I think that the big problem with having a large scale/. type of moderating system is that it will require people to visit or at the very least reveiw the very sites they are trying to avoid.
This will be good for some people who will see it as being able to have thier cake and eat it too, because they will be able to visit those sites but only for "moderation" purposes. The rest will simply not do it, leaving less than a random, shall we say, population doing the moderating.
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I won't listen."
To call using bacteria for microchips or other human uses, slavery, is silly at best. We harness microbes for our purposes all the time--yogurt, penicillin, the ecoli bacterium in your lower digestive system (yes we use them and need them).
Slavery would imply that they were free to begin with--as though they had a free will. The truth is a microbe living in an environment that it was designed to live in will be as free as you or I living in the environments that we were designed to live in. So what if humans happen to derive benefit from it?
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I won't listen."
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Now all we need is for Sarek of Vulcan to be flying nearby and detect his warp trace. Then the Vulcans will know that we are not primitive for them. (For the Treck illiterate: Xephran Cochran was an amature rocketeer who invented the warp drive. On his first flight Sarek of Vulcan detected his warp train and the rest is history...well maybe not history exactly...)
I'm not sure that anyone has the right to down load porn whereever they want. No one can stop them if they want it but no one has to allow it either--there is nothing to compell a library to allow porn on thier computers.
Would you claim that a Library must carry Pornographic magazines in order to not violate a 19 yr. olds right to see them as well?
I do have some reservations though, over time some books have been called pornographic, who makes those standards etc... is never a pretty topic. The point is that there is a slippery slope once we start banning where do we stop.
On the other hand I've seen first hand how the library in my university was turned into a virtual red light distirct.
This system would seem to have a fatal flaw: Jam the signal from the controlers and suddenly the US airforce is useless.
I see these as possibly useful for a quick surprise attack, perhaps special forces may use them, but nothing more.
Otherwise, these are really cool looking planes!
Whereas this move seems to run against the ethos that many in this forum hold dear (namely, that the internet is to be about freedom i.e. exchange of ideas yada yada yada), there really is very little that we could od about it.
I suppose that we (the larger internet community) could choose to boycott them. I mean literally not send anything to them, request anything from them, rout around them all together etc... But that seems pointless in that it would run counter to our own ethos and probably not bother them at all.
We could also try to e-mail bomb them with freedom of expression stuff, but I as fun as that sounds I doubt highschool type pranks would accomplish much of anything.
In the end though, when you think about it this is not a major rights infringement considering what other countries in that region do to thier own citizens.
Assuming that the bill does go through and does do exactly what it says it will do I am still left with one question--so what? No one reads those long statements, I know I certainly won't spend my time on the web reading borring privacy statements, and therefore, they could easily contain elastic clauses that would permitt them to give your information to others.
What it boils down to is that if you agree to a site's privacy policy then they can do what you agreed to let them do-just like anyother contract.
The only thing that I see as keeping companies in line is the ability to sue, but not just on an individual level. The threat of a Class action suit from litterally tens of thousands of users should be enough to keep just about everyone in line.
I think that the big problem with having a large scale /. type of moderating system is that it will require people to visit or at the very least reveiw the very sites they are trying to avoid.
This will be good for some people who will see it as being able to have thier cake and eat it too, because they will be able to visit those sites but only for "moderation" purposes. The rest will simply not do it, leaving less than a random, shall we say, population doing the moderating.
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I won't listen."
To call using bacteria for microchips or other human uses, slavery, is silly at best. We harness microbes for our purposes all the time--yogurt, penicillin, the ecoli bacterium in your lower digestive system (yes we use them and need them).
Slavery would imply that they were free to begin with--as though they had a free will. The truth is a microbe living in an environment that it was designed to live in will be as free as you or I living in the environments that we were designed to live in. So what if humans happen to derive benefit from it?
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I won't listen."