It doesn't come out and say "replicate user lists" but rather states the admin must identify hosts/users/etc. that should have use of the secondary MX.
How is my secondary or tertiary MX host supposed to know which addresses I will accept? Mind reading? If it's not accepting *@mydomain.com, then there's a problem. That would be broken.
I'm talking about external, off-site backup MX hosting here. I don't see how they'd have access to a user list, especially if the primary server is down or unreachable. It's the admin's job to replicate local user addresses to all exchangers in the domain, per the RFC.
This is to be expected from free mail providers. If you want quality service, including people that police spammers and watch their systems, then you obviously pay for the higher-quality email service.
It's refreshing to read about police who aren't trying to taser everything that fails to conform. It's Flint. They have better things to do besides worry about some tank blowing things up.
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The builder is from my alma mater.
If you've never been to Flint before, that tank is pretty much what you need to make it down some parts of Dort highway.
I debated whether to reply to this or not - but I'm wrapping up lunch so...
I have tried it. Google Apps is a joke when compared to MS Office.
That's fine that Google Docs meets the needs of many people - I think it's great when any software is useful. Just have the sense to not put it in the same division, league, or even planet as MS Office. For all the anti-MS arguments there are, they have some solid productivity software.
In a knife-fight between (MS office+sharepoint+exchange) and (Google Apps beta v0.5) I would take the MS option every single time until someone shows me something better. And you know what? I'll be more productive, have more control over my data, and not rely on a multiple 3rd-parties for my spreadsheet to work.
Again - right tool for the right job. Other then small teams that are not mission-critical and don't need the advanced features MS Office has I cannot think of a situation where Google Apps meets that challenge.
You clipped from the article but you didn't read it, did you.
They were just granted the patent on Tuesday. Would you have rather they filed suit before the USPTO finished the paperwork? The patent was applied for years ago. Yes, it takes years to get a patent.
The truth is we DO have a language to tell the difference - people just use the nomenclature incorrectly.
CS = Theory and algorithm development
Software Engineering = System design and development
You know what a person that writes code is called? A Developer. Good luck getting the accreditation boards to ever accept that however. If the college you went to referred to the CS majors as people who programmed and learned web development, your college is wrong and likely unaccredited.
I'm implying that voting for Nader didn't get them a Nader presidency, it got them a Bush presidency. Given the (IMHO reasonable) assumption that the average Nader voter is left-leaning, and would therefore have preferred a Gore presidency to a Bush presidency, their sincere voting worked against their own interest. I'm not saying that's a good thing -- I think the system completely sucks -- but sticking your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't work that way doesn't help anything. I'm sorry, IMO, that's assenine logic. You shouldn't vote one way because you don't like the other. If you don't like any particular candidate you shouldn't vote at all. So what if it didn't get them a Nader presidency, they voted for the message that resonated with them as citizens. I guarantee this time around strategists looked at Nader's voters, figured out what attracted them to Nader, and are attempting to appeal to them. That's what their vote for Nader got them: consideration this time around. The candidates are talking about more Green things in this campaign than ever before, and some of that is thanks to Nader because both parties want those votes.
That's also good advice, and I believe the Democrats have done just that. However, it doesn't change the fact that in a plurality voting system, two viable similar candidates will often split the vote and allow a lone dissimilar candidate to win the election despite his being the least popular choice. That's fine - if that happens then the Democratic candidate did not run a platform that appealed to enough people. Why are you not complaining that the republican party was split? Even if you are a democrat, why does this not happen in the republican party? Could it be that more "republicans" in that election were like-minded, where as the democrats were more inconsistent with their party's policies? That's the particular party's fault, be it the policy differences, what each candidate liked on hir/her pizza, or the delivery of their message. The democrats did not lose because the party was split - they lost because the democratic party did not have enough consistency to be on the other side of a few thousand vote swing. If Nader's supporters liked enough of what the dems were saying, they wouldn't have voted for Nader.
You are aware that a large portion of Nader's funding comes from wealthy Republicans who disagree with everything he stands for, but still send him money because they correctly understand that he helps draw votes away from the Democratic candidate and therefore helps the Republican candidate win? That's an insipid strategy and in a reasonable electoral system (again, check out Range Voting or Condorcet) it would not be a workable one. But we use plurality, and so that strategy works. Moan and wail all you like, but that's how it is. That's all well-and-good, but why does he "draw them away"? Do those people have guns to their heads? Obviously not - they agree with more of Nader's message then they do with the Democratic candidate's message.
What do you mean:
Asking the voters to willingly ignore that fact and shoot themselves in the foot is asking too much, ???
Are you implying they are throwing away their votes by voting for a losing candidate? So what if Nader took votes away from the leading Democrat - there's a reason he did.
Jesus Christ people, what's wrong with you..?
If democrats are pissed because Nader took "their" votes they need to change their panties. Nader didn't take anyone's votes - he took the votes of people that agreed with his platform and policies more then the next candidate's. If the dems wanted those votes they should have changed their policies to attract those voters.
Forget about Florida - it's in the past and only occurred because the popular vote was so close. If there had been 10 million+ popular votes difference between the main candidates you wouldn't have "Florida" to point at in your rear-view mirror as a trite example. You don't want another Florida? Have your party produce a better message. Change your platform to appeal to more people; that's how you get votes. That's how you get elected, by removing any chance of the other side to question whether you deserve to be there.
Please, for the love of whatever God you believe in, don't vote for a candidate because you want to be with the "winner". Stop being Sheeple. Make a difference or the next plague will remove you from the gene pool.
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It doesn't come out and say "replicate user lists" but rather states the admin must identify hosts/users/etc. that should have use of the secondary MX.
I'm talking about external, off-site backup MX hosting here. I don't see how they'd have access to a user list, especially if the primary server is down or unreachable. It's the admin's job to replicate local user addresses to all exchangers in the domain, per the RFC.
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MOD PARENT UP.
GP is senile and telling old war stories again....
A better idea: charge for the service. Let the spammers pay $1 for each account they have.
Sorry to the other grammer nazi. I will do better...
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I'm forced to use Notes every day.
Exchange is -years- ahead of notes.
Q: How do you keep the majority of the spammers away?
A: Attach a price-tag.
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Commercial?! Psft - it was a viral-green-eco-friendly-lovein message, man!
Then you haven't used Exchange, etc.
Exchange trumps Gmail easily. No Contest.
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This is to be expected from free mail providers. If you want quality service, including people that police spammers and watch their systems, then you obviously pay for the higher-quality email service.
Regards,
The builder is from my alma mater.
If you've never been to Flint before, that tank is pretty much what you need to make it down some parts of Dort highway.
I debated whether to reply to this or not - but I'm wrapping up lunch so...
I have tried it. Google Apps is a joke when compared to MS Office.
That's fine that Google Docs meets the needs of many people - I think it's great when any software is useful. Just have the sense to not put it in the same division, league, or even planet as MS Office. For all the anti-MS arguments there are, they have some solid productivity software.
In a knife-fight between (MS office+sharepoint+exchange) and (Google Apps beta v0.5) I would take the MS option every single time until someone shows me something better. And you know what? I'll be more productive, have more control over my data, and not rely on a multiple 3rd-parties for my spreadsheet to work.
Again - right tool for the right job. Other then small teams that are not mission-critical and don't need the advanced features MS Office has I cannot think of a situation where Google Apps meets that challenge.
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Where the other 99.99999% of the business world just emails the Word doc to the people that need it.
You're right, there is no rivalry. OpenOffice is the only thing within striking distance of MS Office. Google Apps is a joke.
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You clipped from the article but you didn't read it, did you.
They were just granted the patent on Tuesday. Would you have rather they filed suit before the USPTO finished the paperwork? The patent was applied for years ago. Yes, it takes years to get a patent.
Your fact-based statement and modicum of common sense has no business in this discussion!
Godaddy is not the largest webhost. Please check your facts.
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computer science is the study of the theory. It has almost nothing to do with programming as you know it. CS is closer to math than engineering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science
The truth is we DO have a language to tell the difference - people just use the nomenclature incorrectly.
CS = Theory and algorithm development
Software Engineering = System design and development
You know what a person that writes code is called? A Developer. Good luck getting the accreditation boards to ever accept that however. If the college you went to referred to the CS majors as people who programmed and learned web development, your college is wrong and likely unaccredited.
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CS != Programming ..that's part of your HR departments problem.
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Fuck off. :)
Forget the flamewars, from the looks of things you can roast marshmallows over the CPU the scheduler is running on.....
Are you implying they are throwing away their votes by voting for a losing candidate? So what if Nader took votes away from the leading Democrat - there's a reason he did.
Jesus Christ people, what's wrong with you..?
If democrats are pissed because Nader took "their" votes they need to change their panties. Nader didn't take anyone's votes - he took the votes of people that agreed with his platform and policies more then the next candidate's. If the dems wanted those votes they should have changed their policies to attract those voters.
Forget about Florida - it's in the past and only occurred because the popular vote was so close. If there had been 10 million+ popular votes difference between the main candidates you wouldn't have "Florida" to point at in your rear-view mirror as a trite example. You don't want another Florida? Have your party produce a better message. Change your platform to appeal to more people; that's how you get votes. That's how you get elected, by removing any chance of the other side to question whether you deserve to be there.
Please, for the love of whatever God you believe in, don't vote for a candidate because you want to be with the "winner". Stop being Sheeple. Make a difference or the next plague will remove you from the gene pool.
Regards,