I'll admit I might be out to lunch or overlooking something, but that's just total nonsense - ISPs, far and wide "oversell" as you call it.
That's the whole POINT of packet switching.
The reality is, we, as customers, only care when the ISP fails to manage things correctly, and our service levels drop well below what we expected, regardless of what's in the contract.
Certainly, dedicated bandwidth through a network is available on most, if not all, carriers, at a large premium.. but in that case, you might as well be purchasing a leased line to a big connectoin point.
I think we could all agree, more or less what is right and wrong in most filtering situations - the problem is when we try to put it down on paper as a law - it's dangerous and open to severe abuse.
Your ISP *should* be able to offer latency gaurantees to voip (or any other traffic) as an added benefit to using their network - absolutely!
They should not be able to selectively delay competing provider traffic in order to force you to pay extra or use their services.
The problem is, at some point, when you start managing lots of traffic, these two areas overlap.
Whether I'm delaying other traffic, or just failing to prioritize it really depends on your point of view.
Providers should be able to enhance my service by managing their network and traffic flows. They should not be able to make my experience WORSE by cherry-picking services they don't like me using and interfering with it.
Even when mp3 came out, it was just another neat tool. THe files were still relatively big, and we didn't have huge disks to store stuff on. The internet was in it's infancy.
Now, we swap them like gumdrops. We trade them by the thousands, and we have applications to analyze and do all kinds of neat stuff with them.
When it took an air-cooled pentium with a 100 watt power supply to play mp3s, portables were out of the question.
The parent is right - faster processors will lead to doing things that today we don't even see as interesting, as they aren't in scope. Think, perhaps, analysis and search - processes could be doing analysis on every key you type, every application you use, filtering your rss feeds for you and mapping all your actions into finding new interesting stuff for you online, all without getting in your way. Right now, the algorthms for doing that are in their infancy, nad they eat up a lot of computing resources.
Really.. what does everyone think - that retailers are somehow obliged to give you the cheapest price in the world on everything?
They aren't locking you in to their upgrades, for the most part. They don't void your warranty if you buy your own (within certain reasonable limits) and they don't go after people who sell "compatable" ram and whatnot.
Buying ram from apple is more expensive for the same reason that buying car parts and having them installed at the dealership is more expensive...because they can.
No - he means that generally, when you buy a mac, you don't upgrade it, ever. You use it for several years and buy a new one.
It's not like we keep going out and buying more ram all the time...
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I think everyone is mixing terms here...
taking a system, and instead of single drives, using raid, is not a backup solution in any way. It's a performance and redundancy solution.
Using a separate system to copy files to (whether tape, another raid array on another system, or whatever) is a perfectly valid backup solution depending on what you want.
Tape is in no way better than a dedicated backup server - it's just different.
You know.. it's not like the old days when usenet was this big-little thing that ISPs usually provided in some fashion for free to their customers. the amount of traffic on usenet is absurdly large these days.. and if 99% of my customers didn't care, I wouldn't run it either. There are excellent, affordable, top-quality usenet providers out there.. it's something big enough that a dedicated provider that can focus on doing *just that* makes good sense.
He would have to be reporting on some issue of public safety, or outright illegal acts, or something like that.
But although weak passwords and poor internal security certainly violate some standards that the company is supposed to comply with (PCI, etc...).. that doesn't make it illegal.
Running a searchable, well maintained database of links to primarily infringing material with the sole purpose of helping more people find and take it illegally faster, while collecting ad revenue from the traffic that generates for your site. that might be a little different.
They didn't "merely" link to these sites. Google "Merely" links to the sites.
These guys appear to have run sites who's sole de-facto purpose was to make finding infringing material easier. They can't claim they didn't know good and well what was going on.
Launching DDOS attacks against a business on a projected multi-million dollar profit weekend and demanding $50,000 to "permit" the site to go back online is not an innocent hacker prank.
Some of these are fairly innocent hacker pranks.. the kinds of things you do because you can. Like stuffing votes for a fake candidate.
But those russian guys.. sure, they had a botnet.. but the DDoS extortion they did was straight-up extortion, and it had a huge price-tag on the online gambling industry. We aren't talking about a few 10's of thousands here.. they extorted a great deal of money out of the industry, and aside from that COST many companies a great deal in lost profits by shutting them down over key business days.
Real property is taxed because you choose to live in a community that provides services to landowners. Sewer, garbage collection, by-law enforcement, street lights, sidewalks....
IF you want to go live up north or somewhere really really rural with no supporting services - you generally don't pay property tax.
The same could be said of phone companies.... the lines are there, why charge per call?
A byte might not have a direct cost... but the ISP has a limited capacity and an operating cost.. what other method should the use to figure out who gets what parts of their bandwidth?
Insider Trading regulations are about the company and it's executives, and how they behave with regards to the market. It's to keep the market fair and balanced.
It doesn't mean it's illegal to trade based on some knowledge others don't have.. it means it's illegal for company insiders to selectively use their unique knowledge of company operations to benefit themselves or others on the stock market.
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Do people actually consider running anything the least bit important without a UPS?
Is it common for anyone to run production equipment in the US without power protection?
Then what happens when people start abusing the QoS facilities to download stuff faster?
I'll admit I might be out to lunch or overlooking something, but that's just total nonsense - ISPs, far and wide "oversell" as you call it.
That's the whole POINT of packet switching.
The reality is, we, as customers, only care when the ISP fails to manage things correctly, and our service levels drop well below what we expected, regardless of what's in the contract.
Certainly, dedicated bandwidth through a network is available on most, if not all, carriers, at a large premium.. but in that case, you might as well be purchasing a leased line to a big connectoin point.
I think we could all agree, more or less what is right and wrong in most filtering situations - the problem is when we try to put it down on paper as a law - it's dangerous and open to severe abuse.
Your ISP *should* be able to offer latency gaurantees to voip (or any other traffic) as an added benefit to using their network - absolutely!
They should not be able to selectively delay competing provider traffic in order to force you to pay extra or use their services.
The problem is, at some point, when you start managing lots of traffic, these two areas overlap.
Whether I'm delaying other traffic, or just failing to prioritize it really depends on your point of view.
Providers should be able to enhance my service by managing their network and traffic flows.
They should not be able to make my experience WORSE by cherry-picking services they don't like me using and interfering with it.
But they didn't have every right.. they didn't just delay or drop some packets, which would seem more or less okay.
They actively forged packets in order to make your software believe the other end had hung up.
Then they lied about it. Publicly.
Even when mp3 came out, it was just another neat tool. THe files were still relatively big, and we didn't have huge disks to store stuff on. The internet was in it's infancy.
Now, we swap them like gumdrops. We trade them by the thousands, and we have applications to analyze and do all kinds of neat stuff with them.
When it took an air-cooled pentium with a 100 watt power supply to play mp3s, portables were out of the question.
The parent is right - faster processors will lead to doing things that today we don't even see as interesting, as they aren't in scope.
Think, perhaps, analysis and search - processes could be doing analysis on every key you type, every application you use, filtering your rss feeds for you and mapping all your actions into finding new interesting stuff for you online, all without getting in your way. Right now, the algorthms for doing that are in their infancy, nad they eat up a lot of computing resources.
Really.. what does everyone think - that retailers are somehow obliged to give you the cheapest price in the world on everything?
They aren't locking you in to their upgrades, for the most part. They don't void your warranty if you buy your own (within certain reasonable limits) and they don't go after people who sell "compatable" ram and whatnot.
Buying ram from apple is more expensive for the same reason that buying car parts and having them installed at the dealership is more expensive.. .because they can.
No - he means that generally, when you buy a mac, you don't upgrade it, ever. You use it for several years and buy a new one.
It's not like we keep going out and buying more ram all the time...
I think everyone is mixing terms here...
taking a system, and instead of single drives, using raid, is not a backup solution in any way. It's a performance and redundancy solution.
Using a separate system to copy files to (whether tape, another raid array on another system, or whatever) is a perfectly valid backup solution depending on what you want.
Tape is in no way better than a dedicated backup server - it's just different.
You know.. it's not like the old days when usenet was this big-little thing that ISPs usually provided in some fashion for free to their customers. the amount of traffic on usenet is absurdly large these days.. and if 99% of my customers didn't care, I wouldn't run it either.
There are excellent, affordable, top-quality usenet providers out there.. it's something big enough that a dedicated provider that can focus on doing *just that* makes good sense.
He would have to be reporting on some issue of public safety, or outright illegal acts, or something like that.
But although weak passwords and poor internal security certainly violate some standards that the company is supposed to comply with (PCI, etc...).. that doesn't make it illegal.
What obligation is your ISP under to not share information about you? Was it written into your contract with them?
It's not automatic...
Yup.. linking shouldn't be.
Running a searchable, well maintained database of links to primarily infringing material with the sole purpose of helping more people find and take it illegally faster, while collecting ad revenue from the traffic that generates for your site. that might be a little different.
They didn't "merely" link to these sites. Google "Merely" links to the sites.
These guys appear to have run sites who's sole de-facto purpose was to make finding infringing material easier. They can't claim they didn't know good and well what was going on.
Berkely DB?
Launching DDOS attacks against a business on a projected multi-million dollar profit weekend and demanding $50,000 to "permit" the site to go back online is not an innocent hacker prank.
Some of these are fairly innocent hacker pranks.. the kinds of things you do because you can. Like stuffing votes for a fake candidate.
But those russian guys.. sure, they had a botnet.. but the DDoS extortion they did was straight-up extortion, and it had a huge price-tag on the online gambling industry. We aren't talking about a few 10's of thousands here.. they extorted a great deal of money out of the industry, and aside from that COST many companies a great deal in lost profits by shutting them down over key business days.
Thank goodness I have a browser that doesn't have to phone home and track what I do in the name of "protecting" me.
Don't click on stuff in emails...
Real property is taxed because you choose to live in a community that provides services to landowners. Sewer, garbage collection, by-law enforcement, street lights, sidewalks....
IF you want to go live up north or somewhere really really rural with no supporting services - you generally don't pay property tax.
The same could be said of phone companies.... the lines are there, why charge per call?
A byte might not have a direct cost... but the ISP has a limited capacity and an operating cost.. what other method should the use to figure out who gets what parts of their bandwidth?
It's absolutely true... as the field of programming itself is vastly larger now.
As the grandparent said - nobody was doing web programming in 70s.
Cool... sonar operator?
Lots of interesting explanations here..
This could also equally be normal, every-day traffic shaping.
Even simple shaping algorithms let you set some level of overflow before you start dropping packets.. it smooths things out.
Insider Trading regulations are about the company and it's executives, and how they behave with regards to the market. It's to keep the market fair and balanced.
It doesn't mean it's illegal to trade based on some knowledge others don't have.. it means it's illegal for company insiders to selectively use their unique knowledge of company operations to benefit themselves or others on the stock market.
Wow - thanks for that.
I've been using opendns for years - It's faster, reliable, and an easy choice.
I had no IDEA they were returning fake queries for google...... that's just nasty, and maybe even illegal.