Axum on Linux isn't ready for prime time, yet. However, Axum is powerful enough that you should probably change your platform to permit its use, so if you have a new app being developed, I'd force your engineers to use Axum and develop it on windows.
I agree. I'm uninstalling Linux as we speak.
I expect 15% of the software to be written in Axum within 4 year, with the rest being split between Ruby on Rails, Silverlight and Adobe Flash Player (tm).
Java more likely (since it's built on Hadoop, which uses Java).
Slighty embarrassing for microsoft, perhaps? But remember, this comes from a group that microsoft acquired, not something that has always been a part of microsoft.
It's interesting to follow Novell's moves regarding SUSE; first, they lay off lots of SUSE developers, now they are just "skipping" it in favor of Moblin. I'd be surprised if there was no hard feelings regarding the decision among the SUSE team.
You'll find the same things if you play online games - little dweebs acting out who think it's shocking to say n*g*er over and over.
Just don't be shocked by it. Problem solved.
I don't get shocked by it, but such behaviour done just for lulz should have some repercussions. Showing the stuff to the troublemakers parents so they could be duly chastized could be a good start.
Freedom of the internet used to be this exciting thing in the nineties - you could acquire all kind of questionable material, pictures of scantly clothed women and crack smoking instructions if you wanted. And that was just fine, since back then there was some selection of who got to the internet in the first place. These days everybody has internet, and some control of what you can do there would not be entirely out of place.
OTOH, I wouldn't mind controlling the freedom of sleazy tabloids either.
It kind of is your constitutional right to be an asshole pretty much anywhere, for nonviolent, non-frauding, non-libel/slander, non-likely-to-cause-imminent-violence values of asshole.
How about 4chan kind of assholes? Or all the blatantly racist AC trolls that are currently spamming slashdot?
A lot of the time scumbags are not productive at all, really. Requirement of civil behaviour should be universal, whether electronic or not.
So you think being an asshole should become a criminal offense?
Pretty much, yes.
If I call you a mealy-mouthed anti-intellectual pompous turd-brained gutter rat with a Terry Schiavo-like IQ and all the sense one would expect from a decayed chunk of dog vomit, you think I should be fined or go to jail?
Depends on the context. Here, you are just making a point, which doesn't quite qualify you as being an asshole. But the fact that you like assholes (and probably all the assorted "moral relativism" that usually goes with your kind) so much just might.
This is just a clarification of "harassment" as it already exists. It's not an attempt to shut down blogs. If someone is obviously and intentionally harassing someone else, I have no problem with them having legal recourse.
Yeah, it seem a part of the internet subculture feels it their constitutional right to be a total asshole on the internet, and god fordib if someone complains about it.
Since slashdot doesn't allow editing your previous message - perhaps there is a bit of bad blood w/ IBM and the failed buyout attempt. In that case, this makes perfect sense.
Sun may not the friendliest company around (CDDL and all that), but still, this seems like a cheap trick from IBM's side. What with all the generous contributions by Sun to open source movement (OpenOffice comes to mind)...
Who knows - maybe the devs thought it's more important to drive the technology forward instead of implementing yet another lightweight desktop environment.
Most probably, though, it's just about different parts of the stack evolving separately from each other (Qt, KDE, X, drivers), and it's taking some time for everything to get optimized.
Er, really? I still seeing people complaining about using KDE with nvidia driver on nvnews forum. I am using an nvidia card and planning to switch to KDE 4.3 when it is out so I need to know if it will work properly or not.
Yes, my nvidia chip works fine on Jaunty (stock nvidia driver, not self-built one), unlike the intel chip I have at work. Resizing is still not perfect, but it's pretty much a smooth ride now.
I tried the latest KDE on a 2.4 GHz, 512MB RAM system with an on board graphics card and I must say I was underwhelmed.
Buy some RAM, they are practically giving it away for free. KDE4 is not really meant for low end machines (yet).
KDE4 is also very quick to expose bad video drivers. A while ago nvidia sucked, now it rocks (mostly) - whereas the Intel driver is in bad interim state.
Then when I start a task, the helpful animated dog pops up, but instead of the vanilla "looks like you're writing a letter," some random jerk from the low end of the internet gene pool pops up and says something in between "Nice letter, fag!"
So when are they going to make it desirable for the non-tech literate to use?
It's there already.
The part about Ubuntu UI my wife uses is the Firefox icon. As the OS is increasingly becoming a trivial commodity, Linux will continue to gain share with accelerating rate.
I've been told by several friends that they bought netbooks and then installed Windows on them because 'Linux is old and isn't compatible with anything.'
If we are talking about Xandros that came with EEE, that sounds about right.
Qt vs GTK: Who is going to capitulate to let the other win?
One thing is certain - it sure as hell won't be Qt.
It survived under QPL and GPL - it's basically unstoppable under LGPL (and relavite "financial independence" under the Nokia umbrella).
1) replace Qt memory management with TR1::shared_ptr (or boost).
2) replace Qt collections with STL collections.
3) replace Qt threads with boost::threads.
4) replace Qt signals and slots with boost::signals.
In other words, make Qt play nice with STL and boost, which are the foundations for developing C++ code these days.
So it doesn't play nice with them right now?
You'll be waiting for Qt5 for that kind of stuff.
I think this will be about the time C++0x gets mainstream. Breaking Qt source compatibility before that is just not worth it.
Axum on Linux isn't ready for prime time, yet. However, Axum is powerful enough that you should probably change your platform to permit its use, so if you have a new app being developed, I'd force your engineers to use Axum and develop it on windows.
I agree. I'm uninstalling Linux as we speak.
I expect 15% of the software to be written in Axum within 4 year, with the rest being split between Ruby on Rails, Silverlight and Adobe Flash Player (tm).
Will be it attached to .Net? Probably, right?
Java more likely (since it's built on Hadoop, which uses Java).
Slighty embarrassing for microsoft, perhaps? But remember, this comes from a group that microsoft acquired, not something that has always been a part of microsoft.
Nevermind my earlier comment - Infoworld article states:
Novell began assigning its Linux developers to work on Moblin several months ago
So basically, we will be seeing some SUSE-ization of Moblin. Which is good, because IIRC Moblin has pretty immature/shallow userspace so far.
It's interesting to follow Novell's moves regarding SUSE; first, they lay off lots of SUSE developers, now they are just "skipping" it in favor of Moblin. I'd be surprised if there was no hard feelings regarding the decision among the SUSE team.
You'll find the same things if you play online games - little dweebs acting out who think it's shocking to say n*g*er over and over.
Just don't be shocked by it. Problem solved.
I don't get shocked by it, but such behaviour done just for lulz should have some repercussions. Showing the stuff to the troublemakers parents so they could be duly chastized could be a good start.
Freedom of the internet used to be this exciting thing in the nineties - you could acquire all kind of questionable material, pictures of scantly clothed women and crack smoking instructions if you wanted. And that was just fine, since back then there was some selection of who got to the internet in the first place. These days everybody has internet, and some control of what you can do there would not be entirely out of place.
OTOH, I wouldn't mind controlling the freedom of sleazy tabloids either.
Yeah, you certainly have a right to be both of those kinds of assholes. What you're advocating is called "fascism".
Godwin => seems we are pretty much done with this thread.
It kind of is your constitutional right to be an asshole pretty much anywhere, for nonviolent, non-frauding, non-libel/slander, non-likely-to-cause-imminent-violence values of asshole.
How about 4chan kind of assholes? Or all the blatantly racist AC trolls that are currently spamming slashdot?
A lot of the time scumbags are not productive at all, really. Requirement of civil behaviour should be universal, whether electronic or not.
So you think being an asshole should become a criminal offense?
Pretty much, yes.
If I call you a mealy-mouthed anti-intellectual pompous turd-brained gutter rat with a Terry Schiavo-like IQ and all the sense one would expect from a decayed chunk of dog vomit, you think I should be fined or go to jail?
Depends on the context. Here, you are just making a point, which doesn't quite qualify you as being an asshole. But the fact that you like assholes (and probably all the assorted "moral relativism" that usually goes with your kind) so much just might.
Wait, you're complaining about Java being an albatross and then trot out Rails? WTH, Ruby has been the business world joke/flash in a pan, not Java.
I don't disagree about Ruby. I agree that it's all hype with little substance.
Still, it's bold to declare taking over all of the business world without clearly trumping OSS competition first.
This is just a clarification of "harassment" as it already exists. It's not an attempt to shut down blogs. If someone is obviously and intentionally harassing someone else, I have no problem with them having legal recourse.
Yeah, it seem a part of the internet subculture feels it their constitutional right to be a total asshole on the internet, and god fordib if someone complains about it.
I'd like to see how well they compete with open source solutions first (Django, Rails), before getting excited about conquering the whole industry.
It seem they are still dragging that Albatross "Java" in their nets, hopefully it can do a few more tricks,
I must be able to expect at least multi-year uptimes and rock solid sailing that proper microkernel architectures provide.
I'll stay old school Unix, tested and true.
See the contradiction? It's hard to tell whether this is a well-crafted troll, or sheer ignorance.
Since slashdot doesn't allow editing your previous message - perhaps there is a bit of bad blood w/ IBM and the failed buyout attempt. In that case, this makes perfect sense.
Sun may not the friendliest company around (CDDL and all that), but still, this seems like a cheap trick from IBM's side. What with all the generous contributions by Sun to open source movement (OpenOffice comes to mind)...
Why? kde3+compiz ran fine on less than that.
Who knows - maybe the devs thought it's more important to drive the technology forward instead of implementing yet another lightweight desktop environment.
Most probably, though, it's just about different parts of the stack evolving separately from each other (Qt, KDE, X, drivers), and it's taking some time for everything to get optimized.
Er, really? I still seeing people complaining about using KDE with nvidia driver on nvnews forum. I am using an nvidia card and planning to switch to KDE 4.3 when it is out so I need to know if it will work properly or not.
Yes, my nvidia chip works fine on Jaunty (stock nvidia driver, not self-built one), unlike the intel chip I have at work. Resizing is still not perfect, but it's pretty much a smooth ride now.
I tried the latest KDE on a 2.4 GHz, 512MB RAM system with an on board graphics card and I must say I was underwhelmed.
Buy some RAM, they are practically giving it away for free. KDE4 is not really meant for low end machines (yet).
KDE4 is also very quick to expose bad video drivers. A while ago nvidia sucked, now it rocks (mostly) - whereas the Intel driver is in bad interim state.
Then when I start a task, the helpful animated dog pops up, but instead of the vanilla "looks like you're writing a letter," some random jerk from the low end of the internet gene pool pops up and says something in between "Nice letter, fag!"
Mods, not flamebait, +1 funny
Decentralization is not necessarily a good thing. It spreads possibly valuable information to isolated cells (private chats?) with no googleability.
Also, do you really want to be interrupted even more than you used to, by some newbie that can't be bothered to google around?
I understand Linux. I'm even an RHCE (from a few versions back).
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That is where they really screwed up IMHO. It really should be the defacto x86 UNIX. Linux is, I'm sorry, a joke.
It appears you don't really understand Linux at all.
So when are they going to make it desirable for the non-tech literate to use?
It's there already.
The part about Ubuntu UI my wife uses is the Firefox icon. As the OS is increasingly becoming a trivial commodity, Linux will continue to gain share with accelerating rate.
I've been told by several friends that they bought netbooks and then installed Windows on them because 'Linux is old and isn't compatible with anything.'
If we are talking about Xandros that came with EEE, that sounds about right.
I've wasted half a year trying to get a fscking keyboard to work and got nowhere.
It might have been faster if you tried plugging in a normal keyboard while doing the configuration.
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