I like to know the state that my keyboard is in. I like to know that the power to my monitor is on when blanked. I like to be able to see the activity of my switch so that if there is a problem I might get a preliminary diagnosis. You know, ALL of those blinky LEDs that I have do have a purpose. Like some have said, get out the electrical tape or the black marker pen and go for it if they so offend you. However, just because someone is bothered does not mean that everyone else is. This person is not the almighty, omnipotent, lord that he wants to be. Can it and go back in your hole in the ground.
You write all around it but do not get to the point of MS Vista. IT IS NOT YOUR COMPUTER. It is a platform for THEIR software. It is all about running their software and not your computer. It is similar to the situation in some housing sub-divisions/estates with Home Owner Associations (HOA). You buy the property but the HOA tells you how it will be used and managed. Vista's EULA takes it a step further and makes it as if the HOA can come into the house and tell you how to live.
Sorry wrongo to you! These companies think they are entitled to a two tiered internet by law since the marketplace would probably not support it. They need legislation to force this scheme onto the public. They are more than entitled to institute it otherwise and let the marketplace decide, they just cannot use the law to extort money from individuals and companies for their private purposes.
You are another that is side stepping the issue with Microsoft. You can spout your version of capatalist/free-market retoric that grounds itself in the theories of capatalist/free-market economics and ignores the need for certain restraints to make those theories work. Your brand of economics endorses bullying and lawlessness as admirable qualities. Microsoft's success is rooted in immoral, unethical, and even illegal practices. Just because they are "successful" does not justify them being allowed to do what they please. Following your line of reasoning to its ultimate conclusion, organized crime should be lauded for their "success".
This is in reference to your point a) which has been expressed elsewhere.
The USPTO has been under considerable pressure from both the U.S. Congress and Executive branch to reject the NTP patents. So much of the U.S, Government is dependent on the RIM Blackberry that it is frighting. Having worked in the U.S, government, some people do things that are wrong because they are told in a round about manner to do them without a direct order being given. There is only anecdoctal evidence for this; however the situation is very plausable.
Capatalism should not include strongarming your customers. That is the point of the article. M$ may be a successful company based on dollars but they are treading close to the line of being an organized criminal conspiracy (Arrrhh! I see piracy in that thar word) and may on occasion step over the line. They have their shill(Business Software Alliance - BSA)going around being their protection racketeers. This is not Capatalism where one creates a product and sells it at a price based on cost+ that is a price point set by the market place. This is an artificial market created through threats and bullying.
You my dear poster are definitley a TROLL. RIAA employee?
The problem with the brodcast flag and other DRM (Digital Restictions Management) is that they WILL eventually be used to manipulate the media to ensure that the message is only what the powers that be want it to be whether it is in the music or the image.
The flip side to this legislation is the bill that was being floated to force, by law, a multi-tier charging system. The bandwidth providers need a law that forces all bandwidth providers to use multi-tier charges because if they don't some one will break with the crowd, get more customers, and hurt everyone elses income. If the bandwidth providers don't have the law they would have to form what would probably be an illegal cartel to prevent some company from charging solely by bandwidth used.
You, like many, missed a point in this and some other articles. Mr. Campana actually tried to implement these ideas but his company failed. Mr. Campana's payout from the bankruptcy of the company was some if not all of it's IP. He and Mr. Stout got it pantented (I believe that was the order that the article put it in) and tried to pursue licensing. This isn't just some bunch of lawyers getting hold of patents purely for the sake of sueing.
I guess that after a bunch of research if you were to invent something and your company fail, you wouldn't patent it (to make sure nobody steals your ideas);rather, you would just hand the ideas over to somebody else for them to profit from.
It is hard to trust MS after all that they have done. The anology of a wolf in sheep's clothing or the parable of the boy who cried wolf, come to mind when putting trust and Microsoft into the same thought happens. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "Trust with verification".
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--Sarcasm Warning-- The ONLY industries in this country worthy of existing are the movie/television and music industries. Everything else is just a waste of time. Just ask the people at the top in those industries and they will tell you just that. The electronics industry is just a waste of USA time and space; it should be moved to the Far East.
I live out in the country about 60 miles from Fort Worth, Texas, USA. There is dial-up at about 24K bps. It is all very MS Windows oriented; period! Satellite will cost about $400-500 to set-up and another $60 a month. There are caps on speed and amount. I can pay about twice the monthly rate for some more speed and more flow per hour. There is some wi-fi in the area but I happen to be in an area not served. It is about the same price as satellite. Maybe we will get 802.16 out here in the wilderness. DSL, FTTP, or cable are so far out in the future as to be unimaginable. At about 50 years old, I may well be dead before these last services appear at my abode.
Then by your view, if I go to the kitchen or some other place in my residence while the TV is on and advertisements are being shown, I should be punished. What a load of horse pucky you are pushing.
Mr Connely's problem is that he does not have exclusive use of a feature added to Mambo OS after that feature was added to his version of Mambo OS. From what I have read, it appears that the person, a Mambo developer, that coded it for Furthermore went back and re-coded it for the general Mambo OS but did it differently. While Mr. Matzan may miss a point on the GPL his analysis otherwise is good. Mr. Connely on the otherhand appears to be another Darell McBride (TSG) with his demand for the whole of the Mambo OS codebase.
NO! The GPL expressly prohibits distributing code that is encumbered with a patent. If GPL code is released with something under a software patent, then the use of that patent must be allowed where ever that code goes.
Microsoft is the inventor of the personal computer. As a matter of fact they are probably the inventor of the computer. We just don't know and understand. Therfore all knowledge belongs to Microsoft. The United States has been unable to recognize this because the system tries to prevent the true rulers of all humanity to rise to their rightful place. Microsoft is forced to use the existing system to obtain their natural rights to all knowledged and eventually become the rightful place over all of humanity. None of the preceding aguments against Microsoft are of any value as they are inane and specious.
Well it is the property of the Movie/Televison studios and the Recording Compnaies as far as they are concerned. It is only loaned to the individuals to be used specifically as the corporations see fit. So I would see the Libertarians siding with the big corporations like they always do.
I also live out in the sticks/wilderness. We have telephone, electricity, and water. We don't have any broadband except satellite. In 10 years we will probably have the same. There will be no cable TV. There will be no DSL. There will be no fiber. DVDs will still be around unless Bill Gates buys the legislation to outlaw them.
In the intrest of keeping various intellectual property safe, I propose the following. Put blindfolds on everyone so they cannot see to communicate as being able to see may induce copyright infringment. Gag everyone so they cannot speak and insure that childern are not taught to speak. Verbal communications can violate copyright. To back this up, plug everyones ears so that they cannot hear.
Senator Hatch has popped his hatch on this legislation. He is just being a pawn of certain coporate powers that do have a FAILED BUSINESS MODEL with respect to ideas and data. The music industry thinks of music as if it were something that can be put in a bottle and only let out when a payment is made. They feel hurt that they cannot get a royalty payment every time a piece of music is played or heard. They would love to have your CD/MP3/etc player enabled, by legislation, to send them notice for every play so that you may be billed for it. They would love to have legislation to have everyone equiped with a micorphone and detection equipment that would bill you for everytime that you heard, sang, or whistled a tune. NOTHING in the music industry's opinion should be in any sort of public or open domain since they cannot profit from it if it is.
Coporate leaders have one goal, to control as many people as possible. It is not evil to make money. It is not evil to have power. But these people have an unquenchable thirst to increase their power over others. Using the US Government to do this is legitimate in their view. As a matter of fact, anything to increase their power is legitimate if they are not punished for it.
I think one problem with the USPTO is that they have started to patent the obvious. From other information given on this and other websites, about all the USPTO does is a patent search. As one skilled in the art (of electronics), this is such an obvious solution of synchronizing clocks that it should not have been patented.
I disagree. If an invention is published and someone files a patent on the same in less than a year after it is published they can get a patent on it. Very often scientific researchers get the patent applied for before their papers are published just for this reason.
My conclusion therefore is that OSS developers should be applying for patents. These patents could be used in a defensive manner if challenged by a proprietary, closed source developer (company).
The fact that they have bad patents is still a "good thing" for Microsoft as once patents are granted they have to be fought and that can consume great quantities of money. Money is one resource that Microsoft has more than enough of to grind most everyone else into the ground.
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I like to know the state that my keyboard is in. I like to know that the power to my monitor is on when blanked. I like to be able to see the activity of my switch so that if there is a problem I might get a preliminary diagnosis. You know, ALL of those blinky LEDs that I have do have a purpose. Like some have said, get out the electrical tape or the black marker pen and go for it if they so offend you. However, just because someone is bothered does not mean that everyone else is. This person is not the almighty, omnipotent, lord that he wants to be. Can it and go back in your hole in the ground.
You write all around it but do not get to the point of MS Vista. IT IS NOT YOUR COMPUTER. It is a platform for THEIR software. It is all about running their software and not your computer. It is similar to the situation in some housing sub-divisions/estates with Home Owner Associations (HOA). You buy the property but the HOA tells you how it will be used and managed. Vista's EULA takes it a step further and makes it as if the HOA can come into the house and tell you how to live.
Sorry wrongo to you! These companies think they are entitled to a two tiered internet by law since the marketplace would probably not support it. They need legislation to force this scheme onto the public. They are more than entitled to institute it otherwise and let the marketplace decide, they just cannot use the law to extort money from individuals and companies for their private purposes.
You are another that is side stepping the issue with Microsoft. You can spout your version of capatalist/free-market retoric that grounds itself in the theories of capatalist/free-market economics and ignores the need for certain restraints to make those theories work. Your brand of economics endorses bullying and lawlessness as admirable qualities. Microsoft's success is rooted in immoral, unethical, and even illegal practices. Just because they are "successful" does not justify them being allowed to do what they please. Following your line of reasoning to its ultimate conclusion, organized crime should be lauded for their "success".
This is in reference to your point a) which has been expressed elsewhere.
The USPTO has been under considerable pressure from both the U.S. Congress and Executive branch to reject the NTP patents. So much of the U.S, Government is dependent on the RIM Blackberry that it is frighting. Having worked in the U.S, government, some people do things that are wrong because they are told in a round about manner to do them without a direct order being given. There is only anecdoctal evidence for this; however the situation is very plausable.
Capatalism should not include strongarming your customers. That is the point of the article. M$ may be a successful company based on dollars but they are treading close to the line of being an organized criminal conspiracy (Arrrhh! I see piracy in that thar word) and may on occasion step over the line. They have their shill(Business Software Alliance - BSA)going around being their protection racketeers. This is not Capatalism where one creates a product and sells it at a price based on cost+ that is a price point set by the market place. This is an artificial market created through threats and bullying.
You my dear poster are definitley a TROLL. RIAA employee?
The problem with the brodcast flag and other DRM (Digital Restictions Management) is that they WILL eventually be used to manipulate the media to ensure that the message is only what the powers that be want it to be whether it is in the music or the image.
The flip side to this legislation is the bill that was being floated to force, by law, a multi-tier charging system. The bandwidth providers need a law that forces all bandwidth providers to use multi-tier charges because if they don't some one will break with the crowd, get more customers, and hurt everyone elses income. If the bandwidth providers don't have the law they would have to form what would probably be an illegal cartel to prevent some company from charging solely by bandwidth used.
You, like many, missed a point in this and some other articles. Mr. Campana actually tried to implement these ideas but his company failed. Mr. Campana's payout from the bankruptcy of the company was some if not all of it's IP. He and Mr. Stout got it pantented (I believe that was the order that the article put it in) and tried to pursue licensing. This isn't just some bunch of lawyers getting hold of patents purely for the sake of sueing.
I guess that after a bunch of research if you were to invent something and your company fail, you wouldn't patent it (to make sure nobody steals your ideas);rather, you would just hand the ideas over to somebody else for them to profit from.
It is hard to trust MS after all that they have done. The anology of a wolf in sheep's clothing or the parable of the boy who cried wolf, come to mind when putting trust and Microsoft into the same thought happens. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "Trust with verification".
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The ONLY industries in this country worthy of existing are the movie/television and music industries. Everything else is just a waste of time. Just ask the people at the top in those industries and they will tell you just that. The electronics industry is just a waste of USA time and space; it should be moved to the Far East.
I live out in the country about 60 miles from Fort Worth, Texas, USA. There is dial-up at about 24K bps. It is all very MS Windows oriented; period! Satellite will cost about $400-500 to set-up and another $60 a month. There are caps on speed and amount. I can pay about twice the monthly rate for some more speed and more flow per hour. There is some wi-fi in the area but I happen to be in an area not served. It is about the same price as satellite. Maybe we will get 802.16 out here in the wilderness. DSL, FTTP, or cable are so far out in the future as to be unimaginable. At about 50 years old, I may well be dead before these last services appear at my abode.
Then by your view, if I go to the kitchen or some other place in my residence while the TV is on and advertisements are being shown, I should be punished. What a load of horse pucky you are pushing.
Mr Connely's problem is that he does not have exclusive use of a feature added to Mambo OS after that feature was added to his version of Mambo OS. From what I have read, it appears that the person, a Mambo developer, that coded it for Furthermore went back and re-coded it for the general Mambo OS but did it differently. While Mr. Matzan may miss a point on the GPL his analysis otherwise is good. Mr. Connely on the otherhand appears to be another Darell McBride (TSG) with his demand for the whole of the Mambo OS codebase.
NO! The GPL expressly prohibits distributing code that is encumbered with a patent. If GPL code is released with something under a software patent, then the use of that patent must be allowed where ever that code goes.
Shure sounds like a paid shill.
My rant!
Microsoft is the inventor of the personal computer. As a matter of fact they are probably the inventor of the computer. We just don't know and understand. Therfore all knowledge belongs to Microsoft. The United States has been unable to recognize this because the system tries to prevent the true rulers of all humanity to rise to their rightful place. Microsoft is forced to use the existing system to obtain their natural rights to all knowledged and eventually become the rightful place over all of humanity. None of the preceding aguments against Microsoft are of any value as they are inane and specious.
Well it is the property of the Movie/Televison studios and the Recording Compnaies as far as they are concerned. It is only loaned to the individuals to be used specifically as the corporations see fit. So I would see the Libertarians siding with the big corporations like they always do.
I also live out in the sticks/wilderness. We have telephone, electricity, and water. We don't have any broadband except satellite. In 10 years we will probably have the same. There will be no cable TV. There will be no DSL. There will be no fiber. DVDs will still be around unless Bill Gates buys the legislation to outlaw them.
You must be of the group of people that belive that if you put your hand in a bucket of water and pull it out there will be a hole left behind.
NOT!
Take up the opinion that you are only loyal as the paycheck is long.
In the intrest of keeping various intellectual property safe, I propose the following. Put blindfolds on everyone so they cannot see to communicate as being able to see may induce copyright infringment. Gag everyone so they cannot speak and insure that childern are not taught to speak. Verbal communications can violate copyright. To back this up, plug everyones ears so that they cannot hear.
Senator Hatch has popped his hatch on this legislation. He is just being a pawn of certain coporate powers that do have a FAILED BUSINESS MODEL with respect to ideas and data. The music industry thinks of music as if it were something that can be put in a bottle and only let out when a payment is made. They feel hurt that they cannot get a royalty payment every time a piece of music is played or heard. They would love to have your CD/MP3/etc player enabled, by legislation, to send them notice for every play so that you may be billed for it. They would love to have legislation to have everyone equiped with a micorphone and detection equipment that would bill you for everytime that you heard, sang, or whistled a tune. NOTHING in the music industry's opinion should be in any sort of public or open domain since they cannot profit from it if it is.
Coporate leaders have one goal, to control as many people as possible. It is not evil to make money. It is not evil to have power. But these people have an unquenchable thirst to increase their power over others. Using the US Government to do this is legitimate in their view. As a matter of fact, anything to increase their power is legitimate if they are not punished for it.
I think one problem with the USPTO is that they have started to patent the obvious. From other information given on this and other websites, about all the USPTO does is a patent search. As one skilled in the art (of electronics), this is such an obvious solution of synchronizing clocks that it should not have been patented.
I disagree. If an invention is published and someone files a patent on the same in less than a year after it is published they can get a patent on it. Very often scientific researchers get the patent applied for before their papers are published just for this reason.
My conclusion therefore is that OSS developers should be applying for patents. These patents could be used in a defensive manner if challenged by a proprietary, closed source developer (company).
The fact that they have bad patents is still a "good thing" for Microsoft as once patents are granted they have to be fought and that can consume great quantities of money. Money is one resource that Microsoft has more than enough of to grind most everyone else into the ground.
10 PRINT "Concived: 1963"
20 PRINT "Born: 1964"
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