True, though it doesn't do much for the existing problems. Also what happens when your downstream wants to multihome? Does he get his own/64 (heh heh) or whatever or does he announce a subset of your space? I'd vote for the former, but I haven't seen, which way their leaning.
Because it's so damn silly it does not require anything more then a "You're a nutcase. How'd you get in here." If you don't know that already I'm not going to explain it. Second backbone routers provider TRANSIT, so it generally needs to know all routes to all places, hence the problem. Neither this nor IPv6 does anything to relieve this. If anything releasing more space ie IPv6 will make the problem worse.
Unfortunately these guys didn't actually inspect the entire Internet. So they have no idea about the faliover circuits, routers, paths, etc. Take my network. Normally you route through an one of two OC-3 to get one site. If one router/circuit fails OSPF changes to use the DS-3 on another router. You can't see this route while the OC-3 is up.
Fortunately your average attacker could only kill one larger router/access point at a time. Even the last DDOS was only beating on Yahoo, ebay, etc individually IIRC. Not to mention that network infrastructure is quite a bit harder to take down then a web cluster.
ALL smurf attacks can be stopped by properly configured routers. Of course there are always clueless bastards out there making the rest of our live difficult.
Actually you have to have journeymanned for two
years and get state certified before you can be a
professional plumber. At least that's the way it
works in Illinois.
No no no you've got it all wrong.
Users are stupid.
Managers are stupid.
Good so far?
If someone hires you as their consultant then
that should mean they are not stupid since they
hired YOU to do their thinking for them. This
is completely counter to idiot users and managers
who tell you the admin/engineer how to do your
job. Of course if said client refuses to listen to
you... well that's another story.
Except that most of us who take running a network fairly seriously knew about it on 1/26 and upgraded immediately. 16 total servers. If we can manage that, most of the guys with 1 and 2 servers can patch theirs.
While true I myself (a non coder) can say Linus is God, you'll find that the other Linux gods (AC, TT, AA, etc) are quick to argue if they don't like the way things are done.
Their opinions matter, fucking BIG COMPANIES can go screw. If you can understand kernel internals you get an opinion that Linus will respect even if he choses not too implement. "Interested parties" is another word for groupies more concerned with buzzwords then code.
The patent says: "pop up windows, ouside the browser" All the web sites pop ads via the browser, not seperate software like the various ad banners the free ISP's use.
A war room seems to be a common room where you don't have to walk down the hall to find the answer to something. We do it at the ISP I work for. I fix several things a day just by overhearing what the Jr guys are planning. If I was in my own seperate office, I'd have to fix it after the fact. It's about better communication and "ambient learning" (or whatever you wan to call it) then penis power. Sheesh.
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Not to mention the study link doesn't mention war situations at all.
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This got 3?!? Moderators suck.
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kashani
Of course I never worked for "the man". But even indie ISP's have this stuff. It's a little more friendly and you can actually have 15 minute breaks.
The rules of tech support
1. Always assume the customer is lying.
2. Always assume your company lies to you.
3. Never test for more then one variable at a time.
4. Learn to smoke. The deeper and raspier your voice is the better. Nobody fucks with you when they think you're 35 and 6'4".
5. Never show fear.
6. The customers is stupid. If he knew anything he wouldn't need to talk to you. Never deviate from this stance.
7. MCSE ALWAYS need to be smacked.
8. Some people want help, some want to abuse you. Don't take it personally.
9. You won't last more then 18 months. Keep the resume updated.
Did they have to cut every single scene that did any sort of character development to little pieces? I got so annoyed after that farce of a dinner party I turned it off. Princess Irulan? What the hell!?! I actually started to like the movie after sitting through an hour and a half of that crap. And the Gurney/Paul fight scene. Could that have been butchered any more then it was.
The writers probably sat down and said, "Hmmmm, too much character developement happens hear, as well as some really good dialog. Let's cut it down to 10 secs of crap, so we can have Paul call House Harkonnen pigs later on."
Losers!
Looks like you never actually read the book. THe Lynch movie was a piece of shit. The only reason anyone watched it is... well it was Dune. Now we'll see what it should have looked like.
hahahahhaahha this is sooooo dumb.
Why? Because most of the time the money you are going to get is huge. Most companies refuse to do large pay increases to employees they have already hired. Why should they pay me 25k more then the 40k they hired me for just because I moved up from routing dude to routing diety? Of course I can go somewhere else and get 80k easily. So I'd get charged 2k for training. I'm STILL laughing all the way to the bank. Not to mention I'd be in posisition to neogitate more vacation, flex time, training, and a signing bonus. Businesses like you are asking to get taking to the cleaners.
1. They already route traffic in whatever manner they feel like.
2. Hot potato routing
3. Private peering has been replacing public peering for years now.
Yes most load balancers break traceroute as they rewrite packets esp when you trace to the virtual IP. Go get yourself a cookie for being so clueless.
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True, though it doesn't do much for the existing problems. Also what happens when your downstream wants to multihome? Does he get his own /64 (heh heh) or whatever or does he announce a subset of your space? I'd vote for the former, but I haven't seen, which way their leaning.
kashani
Yeah in the 2501 which was EOL'ed in 96 I believe. It was replaced by the 26xx series
sho ver
cisco 2620 (MPC860) processor
kashani
Because it's so damn silly it does not require anything more then a "You're a nutcase. How'd you get in here." If you don't know that already I'm not going to explain it. Second backbone routers provider TRANSIT, so it generally needs to know all routes to all places, hence the problem. Neither this nor IPv6 does anything to relieve this. If anything releasing more space ie IPv6 will make the problem worse.
kashani
And this will decrease the number of routes in the average backbone router... how?
kashani
Unfortunately these guys didn't actually inspect the entire Internet. So they have no idea about the faliover circuits, routers, paths, etc. Take my network. Normally you route through an one of two OC-3 to get one site. If one router/circuit fails OSPF changes to use the DS-3 on another router. You can't see this route while the OC-3 is up.
Fortunately your average attacker could only kill one larger router/access point at a time. Even the last DDOS was only beating on Yahoo, ebay, etc individually IIRC. Not to mention that network infrastructure is quite a bit harder to take down then a web cluster.
kashani
ALL smurf attacks can be stopped by properly configured routers. Of course there are always clueless bastards out there making the rest of our live difficult.
kashani
Real men run production networks. Sissies code the crap we have to put up with.
Mod -1 Motherfucking Flamebait, but that don't mean it's not true
kashani
the equation is Ke = 1/2 Mass x Velocity^2
.4 oz bullet and a 4 oz projectile
for a
Bullet Ke = 8 x 10^5
Railgun Ke = 8 x 10^4
Kashani
Actually you have to have journeymanned for two
years and get state certified before you can be a
professional plumber. At least that's the way it
works in Illinois.
Kashani
No no no you've got it all wrong.
Users are stupid.
Managers are stupid.
Good so far?
If someone hires you as their consultant then
that should mean they are not stupid since they
hired YOU to do their thinking for them. This
is completely counter to idiot users and managers
who tell you the admin/engineer how to do your
job. Of course if said client refuses to listen to
you... well that's another story.
Kashani
Except that most of us who take running a network fairly seriously knew about it on 1/26 and upgraded immediately. 16 total servers. If we can manage that, most of the guys with 1 and 2 servers can patch theirs.
Does Dark Angel suck? Yes.
Does Dark Angel suck even more then that lame Soilder movie while still using most of the tired formulas? Yes.
Did you need to post it twice? No.
-kashani
You don't read Kernel Traffic very often do you?
While true I myself (a non coder) can say Linus is God, you'll find that the other Linux gods (AC, TT, AA, etc) are quick to argue if they don't like the way things are done.
Their opinions matter, fucking BIG COMPANIES can go screw. If you can understand kernel internals you get an opinion that Linus will respect even if he choses not too implement. "Interested parties" is another word for groupies more concerned with buzzwords then code.
Aren't I all piss and vinegar tonight?
kashani
The patent says: "pop up windows, ouside the browser" All the web sites pop ads via the browser, not seperate software like the various ad banners the free ISP's use.
kashani
Pixies? Modest Mouse?
You rule!
-kashani
Did you actually read the article before posting?
A war room seems to be a common room where you don't have to walk down the hall to find the answer to something. We do it at the ISP I work for. I fix several things a day just by overhearing what the Jr guys are planning. If I was in my own seperate office, I'd have to fix it after the fact. It's about better communication and "ambient learning" (or whatever you wan to call it) then penis power. Sheesh.
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Not to mention the study link doesn't mention war situations at all.
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This got 3?!? Moderators suck.
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kashani
My favorite was MacOS 7.2.3 I think. .2 worked, .4 worked, .3 is what came default, which did not work. How about Eudora 1.2, egad!
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kashani
Of course I never worked for "the man". But even indie ISP's have this stuff. It's a little more friendly and you can actually have 15 minute breaks.
The rules of tech support
1. Always assume the customer is lying.
2. Always assume your company lies to you.
3. Never test for more then one variable at a time.
4. Learn to smoke. The deeper and raspier your voice is the better. Nobody fucks with you when they think you're 35 and 6'4".
5. Never show fear.
6. The customers is stupid. If he knew anything he wouldn't need to talk to you. Never deviate from this stance.
7. MCSE ALWAYS need to be smacked.
8. Some people want help, some want to abuse you. Don't take it personally.
9. You won't last more then 18 months. Keep the resume updated.
Did they have to cut every single scene that did any sort of character development to little pieces? I got so annoyed after that farce of a dinner party I turned it off. Princess Irulan? What the hell!?! I actually started to like the movie after sitting through an hour and a half of that crap. And the Gurney/Paul fight scene. Could that have been butchered any more then it was.
The writers probably sat down and said, "Hmmmm, too much character developement happens hear, as well as some really good dialog. Let's cut it down to 10 secs of crap, so we can have Paul call House Harkonnen pigs later on."
Losers!
kashani
Looks like you never actually read the book. THe Lynch movie was a piece of shit. The only reason anyone watched it is... well it was Dune. Now we'll see what it should have looked like.
hahahahhaahha this is sooooo dumb. Why? Because most of the time the money you are going to get is huge. Most companies refuse to do large pay increases to employees they have already hired. Why should they pay me 25k more then the 40k they hired me for just because I moved up from routing dude to routing diety? Of course I can go somewhere else and get 80k easily. So I'd get charged 2k for training. I'm STILL laughing all the way to the bank. Not to mention I'd be in posisition to neogitate more vacation, flex time, training, and a signing bonus. Businesses like you are asking to get taking to the cleaners.
Nah, you've got it backwards. Linux is doing the "radiating" not absorbing radiation.
kashani
1. They already route traffic in whatever manner they feel like.
2. Hot potato routing
3. Private peering has been replacing public peering for years now.
kashani
COnsidering this was published in 1974-6ish it would still be way ahead of it's time.
and the book fucking rocks.
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kashani
Yes most load balancers break traceroute as they rewrite packets esp when you trace to the virtual IP. Go get yourself a cookie for being so clueless.
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router midget