Best possible service is it? So, London cabs will be picking me up in an aircar and whisking me from spot to spot, all the while shining my shoes & offering me a complementary beverage? No? Well then it isn't the best possible service.
None of which addresses my point that London cabbies cannot justify the exclusion of a competing service for illegal reasons either.
Snort, I live in Paris & have heard french snobs use that exact argument to say attempt to justify refusing an operating license to a MacDo*. Can't let the plebes get what they want you know...
Nothing in your post justifies the Black cabs exclusion of a competing service for illegal reasons.
If people judge that the cabbies added value (knowledge of road closures, etc) suits them, they will use them. If people judge that Uber's added value (lower prices) suits them, they will use Uber.
What is this extra-legal right that Black cab drivers have that justifies their excluding competition?
The objective is reusable launchers (or at least 1st stages). Space-X has a 1st stage that was designed to have the margins necessary for fly back & that is gradually implementing this through tests.
It's not an apple/oranges problem. Space-X has apples (a proven launcher) & is working on making applesauce (1st stage fly back).
If a showstopper becomes evident, F9R won't become a commercial reality, but between Grasshopper's successes & the soft splashdown achieved on the last F9 flight, I'm nowhere near as pessimistic you are.
Naysayers have said: Merlin can't be throttled low enough to make soft landings a possibility Merlin can't be restarted in the flight regimes necessary Merlin/Falcon don't have the performance margin necessary for both launching the second stage & flying back Stability issues will prevent soft landings
The last flight proved that none of these are obligatory showstoppers. What else is there?
Perhaps you can explain why the static testing Space-X has performed isn't applicable?
Had I said it wasn't applicable, you'd have a point. But the applicability of the static testing is sharply limited because the test stand isn't flight - the environments are radically different.
You have performed tests that show that the applicability of Space-X's static tests is sharply limited? Please, Derek I'm not being an ass. Why are you right & the engineers that conceived, manufactured & flew Falcon & Merlin wrong?
So why are you so pessimistic?
Because I've studied and am actually familiar with the engineering, issues, and challenges.
And yet Space-X's engineers who are also somewhat familiar with the engineering, issues, and challenges and are currently flying hardware to validate their position do not share your pessimism.
I don't presume anything. I look at the traditional launcher companies who refused to re-examine their processes in order to diminish launch costs & then at Space-X. Space-X has a launcher & a capsule with proven abilities for a cost far below that which "engineers, those working in the industry" were able to do. Indeed, if you'll take off your blinkers & look at the people working for Space-X, you'll notice that they are also "engineers, those working in the industry".
Now between "engineers, those working in the industry" that have been incapable of reducing launch costs & Space-X's "engineers, those working in the industry" who have done so, repeatedly, I believe the latter.
Note that I wasn't the one saying that Space-X would fail because they don't farm out Falcon construction to 40+ congressional districts. I was the one saying that Space-X refused to play this pork game through vertical integration which is a large part in why Falcon-9 is cheaper than anything "Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, BAE, et al" can propose for a similar payload. By being significantly cheaper, Space-X doesn't need the support other launchers have.
... with the limited number of launches to date, it's far too early to be reasonably analyze if they've truly been successful.
Perhaps you can explain why the static testing Space-X has performed isn't applicable? Yes, some unforeseen problems like the rotation issue are bound to appear, but Merlin HAS been exhaustively tested in the durations Space-X has announced ther hope to achieve for the 9R. So why are you so pessimistic?
Space-X was rapidly closing on having flight qualified hardware but the fixed launcher contract was expedited so that it could be awarded just before SpaceX qualified.
The Block buy by ULA was explicitly under competitive rules. You don't setup & award a long term contract like that just before a competitor qualifies without people (and the judiciary) realizing it was an abuse of the system. That is just what happened
The traditional launcher companies (Boeing Lockmart ATK etc) have all considered the Nasa budget to be a captive market with Nasa having no choice but to use one of them. Their MO was to raise prices as high as possible to maximize profits & then subcontract most of the fabrication out so that it could be farmed out widely in order to play the pork game.
SpaceX doesn't play by the same rules. They are very heavily vertically integrated & prefer fabricating in-house to farming it out. Yes there will be less support from the porcine section of Congress, but SpaceX is now pretty much the only short term game in town, they are cheaper than the traditional launchers and if recovery keeps going as well as it has so far, will be much cheaper within 2-3 years. Nasa is much more than just a govt subsidy for launchers and congress isn't going to defund Nasa.
SpaceX would be hurt by a nasa slowdown but they are on the cusp of being able to go on even without them.
Have you paused to consider that this inability of yours to research useful information by yourself, other than through the kindness of strangers here on/. is part of the problem? Your google-foo is deficient & you visibly lack access and/or ambition to use the resources known as libraries. Try working on these points and knowledge & wisdom will come in time.
I don't value lazyness, I just pointed out that you were too lazy to perform a 10 second search. Piqued by my comment you then took a few seconds to read the wiki article. Bravo! It's the first step that's the hardest. Now dig deeper!
Indeed. There hasn't been a single death attributable to the Fukashima meltdown, and thousands were killed by the Tsunami, yet somehow some people still think that the reactor is the big problem...
How do the Strontium and Cesium go away with reprocessing?
10 seconds of your time would have taken you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N... where you would have discovered that methods have been devised to separate them out and thus in large part detoxify the remaining waste (given that we should already be recovering the other useful elements).
Timothy works for Fox news during the week? It would explain why he reacts by publishing wildly biased articles the weekend ( with a radical leftist bias to make up for the right wing bias he'd need to work at FN)...
It only "goers" over my head if you're a patronizing dweeb. Dropbox's user base is completely mainstream & not just concentrated on basement libertarian/anarchist dwellers. Dropbox is not git you self deluding twit.
It is not I that is wrapped up in politics, it is the fringe of "I'm not anonymous but I wish I had the balls to be one" activists such as yourself that views life through these distorting glasses. Do I know what corporate boards Condi Rice or to pull someone off the opposite side of the spectrum, George Stephanopoulos is on? No. It's not news for nerds & it doesn't matter.
Does it matter to you? Visibly, yes. but other than for a fringe like Timothy it does NOT interest the rest of us who are nerds but are not left wing fringe activists.
Try using an ipad. You'll find that Beta is being forced upon all ipad users. I've moved to the iPad for most of my web browsing but the/. beta badness means that I don't read/. on it any more. How are you going to react when Beta is forced upon everyone? Will you still be making snide comments about the people that beta has been forced upon? Will you abandon/. like I have on the ipad? Will you explain why you are leaving/. and then abandon it as many are doing?
Or will you appreciate the top notch work that Timothy is doing bringing/. down to a level worthy of digg?
Now it's whipping up mobs and abandoning it's historic readership by forcing beta on us. I've already removed/. from my rotation of news sites on my iPad due to beta being forced upon me there. Looks like I'll need to abandon/. on weekends when Timothy is active.
This map had purpose: to try and shame the countries with a free press that perform mass surveillance, but in particular the US & UK. The map had a form similar to that of the London tube & DC subway.
That the data used to create the map is based on incomplete and false data is more important to most than that you think the form is inaccurate.
Had the map been labeled in chinese or spanish or some other language on a non-english website, you might actually have a comprehensible point. Given that it is labeled in english where the tube map is a recognizable cultural reference point for a significant part of of the population, all that comes across is your distaste of london or the london tube map.
I've never lived in England yet even growing up in the US I recognized the tube map style as distinctive. Your metaphors may be clear to you, but not to others so labeling them as ignorant when it is you that is being obscure is just ego stroking.
The data used to create it is from Reporteurs sans Frontières. France's DGSE performs the same mass surveillance of the internet & telephone data as the US & UK but nobody talks about it because: A: It's legal here for the government to snoop on anyone they want. Foreign nationals, French citizens, whatever... B: The government has a level of control over the press not present in the US/UK and discourages reporters here from talking about it.
RSF knows that this is the case but somehow France is conveniently left off the list of surveillance states? Suuurrree...
On a side note: I have moved much of my home browsing over to a tablet. Beta is now being foist upon me even when logged in and the/?nobeta=1 URL trick no longer functions. Way to go slashdot, I've been a regular for close to 2 decades but now only visit when sitting down in front of a PC/Mac. Still losing readership? I'm an example.
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Best possible service is it? So, London cabs will be picking me up in an aircar and whisking me from spot to spot, all the while shining my shoes & offering me a complementary beverage? No? Well then it isn't the best possible service.
None of which addresses my point that London cabbies cannot justify the exclusion of a competing service for illegal reasons either.
Snort, I live in Paris & have heard french snobs use that exact argument to say attempt to justify refusing an operating license to a MacDo*. Can't let the plebes get what they want you know...
* As they are called here.
Nothing in your post justifies the Black cabs exclusion of a competing service for illegal reasons.
If people judge that the cabbies added value (knowledge of road closures, etc) suits them, they will use them. If people judge that Uber's added value (lower prices) suits them, they will use Uber.
What is this extra-legal right that Black cab drivers have that justifies their excluding competition?
The objective is reusable launchers (or at least 1st stages). Space-X has a 1st stage that was designed to have the margins necessary for fly back & that is gradually implementing this through tests.
It's not an apple/oranges problem. Space-X has apples (a proven launcher) & is working on making applesauce (1st stage fly back).
If a showstopper becomes evident, F9R won't become a commercial reality, but between Grasshopper's successes & the soft splashdown achieved on the last F9 flight, I'm nowhere near as pessimistic you are.
Naysayers have said:
Merlin can't be throttled low enough to make soft landings a possibility
Merlin can't be restarted in the flight regimes necessary
Merlin/Falcon don't have the performance margin necessary for both launching the second stage & flying back
Stability issues will prevent soft landings
The last flight proved that none of these are obligatory showstoppers. What else is there?
Had I said it wasn't applicable, you'd have a point. But the applicability of the static testing is sharply limited because the test stand isn't flight - the environments are radically different.
You have performed tests that show that the applicability of Space-X's static tests is sharply limited? Please, Derek I'm not being an ass. Why are you right & the engineers that conceived, manufactured & flew Falcon & Merlin wrong?
Because I've studied and am actually familiar with the engineering, issues, and challenges.
And yet Space-X's engineers who are also somewhat familiar with the engineering, issues, and challenges and are currently flying hardware to validate their position do not share your pessimism.
I don't presume anything. I look at the traditional launcher companies who refused to re-examine their processes in order to diminish launch costs & then at Space-X.
Space-X has a launcher & a capsule with proven abilities for a cost far below that which "engineers, those working in the industry" were able to do. Indeed, if you'll take off your blinkers & look at the people working for Space-X, you'll notice that they are also "engineers, those working in the industry".
Now between "engineers, those working in the industry" that have been incapable of reducing launch costs & Space-X's "engineers, those working in the industry" who have done so, repeatedly, I believe the latter.
Note that I wasn't the one saying that Space-X would fail because they don't farm out Falcon construction to 40+ congressional districts. I was the one saying that Space-X refused to play this pork game through vertical integration which is a large part in why Falcon-9 is cheaper than anything "Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, BAE, et al" can propose for a similar payload. By being significantly cheaper, Space-X doesn't need the support other launchers have.
... with the limited number of launches to date, it's far too early to be reasonably analyze if they've truly been successful.
Perhaps you can explain why the static testing Space-X has performed isn't applicable? Yes, some unforeseen problems like the rotation issue are bound to appear, but Merlin HAS been exhaustively tested in the durations Space-X has announced ther hope to achieve for the 9R. So why are you so pessimistic?
Demonstrating that you can produce apples does tend to lend credence to the notion that you can produce applesauce however.
Space-X was rapidly closing on having flight qualified hardware but the fixed launcher contract was expedited so that it could be awarded just before SpaceX qualified.
The Block buy by ULA was explicitly under competitive rules. You don't setup & award a long term contract like that just before a competitor qualifies without people (and the judiciary) realizing it was an abuse of the system. That is just what happened
The traditional launcher companies (Boeing Lockmart ATK etc) have all considered the Nasa budget to be a captive market with Nasa having no choice but to use one of them. Their MO was to raise prices as high as possible to maximize profits & then subcontract most of the fabrication out so that it could be farmed out widely in order to play the pork game.
SpaceX doesn't play by the same rules. They are very heavily vertically integrated & prefer fabricating in-house to farming it out. Yes there will be less support from the porcine section of Congress, but SpaceX is now pretty much the only short term game in town, they are cheaper than the traditional launchers and if recovery keeps going as well as it has so far, will be much cheaper within 2-3 years. Nasa is much more than just a govt subsidy for launchers and congress isn't going to defund Nasa.
SpaceX would be hurt by a nasa slowdown but they are on the cusp of being able to go on even without them.
Have you paused to consider that this inability of yours to research useful information by yourself, other than through the kindness of strangers here on /. is part of the problem? Your google-foo is deficient & you visibly lack access and/or ambition to use the resources known as libraries. Try working on these points and knowledge & wisdom will come in time.
I don't value lazyness, I just pointed out that you were too lazy to perform a 10 second search. Piqued by my comment you then took a few seconds to read the wiki article. Bravo! It's the first step that's the hardest. Now dig deeper!
Indeed. There hasn't been a single death attributable to the Fukashima meltdown, and thousands were killed by the Tsunami, yet somehow some people still think that the reactor is the big problem...
How do the Strontium and Cesium go away with reprocessing?
10 seconds of your time would have taken you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N... where you would have discovered that methods have been devised to separate them out and thus in large part detoxify the remaining waste (given that we should already be recovering the other useful elements).
Timothy works for Fox news during the week? It would explain why he reacts by publishing wildly biased articles the weekend ( with a radical leftist bias to make up for the right wing bias he'd need to work at FN)...
It only "goers" over my head if you're a patronizing dweeb. Dropbox's user base is completely mainstream & not just concentrated on basement libertarian/anarchist dwellers. Dropbox is not git you self deluding twit.
It is not I that is wrapped up in politics, it is the fringe of "I'm not anonymous but I wish I had the balls to be one" activists such as yourself that views life through these distorting glasses. Do I know what corporate boards Condi Rice or to pull someone off the opposite side of the spectrum, George Stephanopoulos is on? No. It's not news for nerds & it doesn't matter.
Does it matter to you? Visibly, yes. but other than for a fringe like Timothy it does NOT interest the rest of us who are nerds but are not left wing fringe activists.
Try using an ipad. You'll find that Beta is being forced upon all ipad users. I've moved to the iPad for most of my web browsing but the /. beta badness means that I don't read /. on it any more. How are you going to react when Beta is forced upon everyone? Will you still be making snide comments about the people that beta has been forced upon? Will you abandon /. like I have on the ipad? Will you explain why you are leaving /. and then abandon it as many are doing?
Or will you appreciate the top notch work that Timothy is doing bringing /. down to a level worthy of digg?
Not on the ipad at present, so happy to oblige. Now, because you appear to like it so much, why don't you tell us all how great /. beta is?
Nerd != left wing.
Ex secretary of state != Matters.
Now if you're a leftist with unrealised dreams of punishing GWB, you might persuade yourself otherwise.
News for nerds, stuff that matters... RIP.
Now it's whipping up mobs and abandoning it's historic readership by forcing beta on us. I've already removed /. from my rotation of news sites on my iPad due to beta being forced upon me there. Looks like I'll need to abandon /. on weekends when Timothy is active.
This map had purpose: to try and shame the countries with a free press that perform mass surveillance, but in particular the US & UK.
The map had a form similar to that of the London tube & DC subway.
That the data used to create the map is based on incomplete and false data is more important to most than that you think the form is inaccurate.
Had the map been labeled in chinese or spanish or some other language on a non-english website, you might actually have a comprehensible point. Given that it is labeled in english where the tube map is a recognizable cultural reference point for a significant part of of the population, all that comes across is your distaste of london or the london tube map.
I've never lived in England yet even growing up in the US I recognized the tube map style as distinctive. Your metaphors may be clear to you, but not to others so labeling them as ignorant when it is you that is being obscure is just ego stroking.
I have never seen an unintended buffer overflow problem in C# or Java.
So you've seen intended ones?
Yup, exploit code is full of em...
The data used to create it is from Reporteurs sans Frontières. France's DGSE performs the same mass surveillance of the internet & telephone data as the US & UK but nobody talks about it because:
A: It's legal here for the government to snoop on anyone they want. Foreign nationals, French citizens, whatever...
B: The government has a level of control over the press not present in the US/UK and discourages reporters here from talking about it.
RSF knows that this is the case but somehow France is conveniently left off the list of surveillance states? Suuurrree...
On a side note: /?nobeta=1 URL trick no longer functions. Way to go slashdot, I've been a regular for close to 2 decades but now only visit when sitting down in front of a PC/Mac. Still losing readership? I'm an example.
I have moved much of my home browsing over to a tablet. Beta is now being foist upon me even when logged in and the
Idiot. Musk has had nothing to do with Paypal for over a decade.