If you're going to continue posting impossible deductions from insufficient data, I'm going to continue replying telling you that you that you are wrong.
When reading "Anonymous sources say that someone living on JoeyRox's street has been condemned as a sex offender", one cannot deduce that JoeyRox is the pervert. You, JoeyRox, may well be a perv but that is not the point, nor is it that it came from an anonymous source, it is that here is insufficient data to identify which individual is the perv that was condemned.
A source saying that an Apple supplier has reduced production != Apple has reduced production on the iPhone X.
Anonymous sources say that you enjoy torturing puppies & kittens.
No major "journalistic outfit" [sic] uses anonymous sources without any proven reliability to determine the relative sales of iPhones nor cal thay as I already pointed out.
Anonymous sources say that you have been seen sexually abusing small children.
There is a reason why anonymous sources are not used when one wants to have any semblance of reliability - something that continues to fly way over your head
Do you actually have a point or do you think that your overwork snark is funny?
Snark for snark: The ghost of Michael Dell says that Apple should just shut down _years_ ago and redistributed what little value they had left to their shareholders.
Woosh. Absent any detail on _which_ suppliers and _which_ parts are seeing lower orders (which is NOT public knowledge it is not possible to determine which iPhone model is impacted.
The habitual Apple doomsayers are claiming with zero proof that iPhone X sales are below expectation. Even if that iPhone sales are down, nobody but Apple knows how it is spread over their (currently uncharacteristically large) number of iPhone models. Apple currently sells the X, the 8+ the 8, the 7+, the 7, the 6+, the 6 and the SE. So who's to say which model production is below expectations?
Oh, so they're "hiding" them are they, so, when in 02/17 Apple said [techcrunch.com] that maximum power draws were causing shutdowns and that they were using power management to avoid them, that was their way of "hiding" this.
Did they tell the users they were negatively impacting their phone? No
Snort, yeah because Apple uses pixie dust to magically avoid shutdowns. No, Virginia, it's not.
When Apple says "sudden spikes of activity to the maximum power draw could cause older batteries, which had some mileage on them, to deliver power in an uneven manner, which would cause an emergency shutdown" the _only_ way to do so is to throttle the CPU during periods of low battery. That _you_ are unable to see that 1+1=2 does not mean that others are unable to do so.
Naaah, this is you going to your grocer whining that the new chocolate milk recipe you bought 4 months ago has gone bad, that he only came out with the new recipe to hide your ability to determine that it had gone bad and that you deserve to get all the free milk you want. In fact it you never even bought any of that brand's milk you're just arguing that everyone deserves free milk -- because milk goes bad.
No its more like the milk goes sour before the expiration date because the store failed to refrigerate it, or the store changes the expiration on meat (which is illegal).
So now you are claiming that Apple ages it's batteries before selling them?!?! And you have proof of this extraordinary claim? You've clearly started on the eggnog already.
Apple already replaces batteries that are out of spec but within warranty for free. So you _are_ whining that you deserve free milk by brandishing months old spoiled milk cartons saying that "Apple made the milk spoil" without any proof.
Oh, so they're "hiding" them are they, so, when in 02/17 Apple said that maximum power draws were causing shutdowns and that they were using power management to avoid them, that was their way of "hiding" this.
Now what to do about older out of spec batteries? Apple's patch avoids spontaneous shutdowns.
Again, this is not normal for smart phones, its happening to a handful of manufacturers including Apple who should step up and accept responsibility. Apple is not accepting responsibility, they're fucking over users
And AGAIN, I never said that out of spec batteries are "normal", but as anyone with a brain realizes, they DO occur more and more as the battery ages. And AGAIN, if you have an out of spec battery within warranty period, Apple ALREADY replaces the battery for free.
Tell us, do you also go whining to your gas station complaining that they "should" give you free gas because you've used up what you bought? To your grocer for free milk? Toothpaste? Toilet paper?
Again, straw man argument. If those companies start selling you a defective product then yes they should replace it,
Naaah, this is you going to your grocer whining that the new chocolate milk recipe you bought 4 months ago has gone bad, that he only came out with the new recipe to hide your ability to determine that it had gone bad and that you deserve to get all the free milk you want. In fact it you never even bought any of that brand's milk you're just arguing that everyone deserves free milk -- because milk goes bad.
It has been estimated that the earth is naturally bombarded by 37000-78000 _tons_ of meteorites a year. a few hundreds/thousands of sats will not make a noticeable difference.
You keep baselessly opining that that "Nobody cares how much thinner the new iphone X is" when thicker phones keep tanking in the marketplace.
One of the top selling phones worldwide, the Moto X is 0.44mm thick, only 0.02mm thinner than the original iphone. Hardly tanking. But that's not really the point either.
The last time Motorola figured in the top 10 mobile phone manufacturers was in 2012 with 1.2% and they have since sunk beneath notice, so that clearly is the point. Kindly give your references for this "top selling phones worldwide" -- and not just Moto promotional stuff either, they're happy just selling a few million phones a year nowadays so +50% is meaningless without comparisons to the real best sellers.
While I said the original iphone was fine, I am not suggesting that everyone wants a 0.44mm slab; even the original iphone wasn't a 0.44mm slab. The design made it feel like less.
I am suggesting that, the progression of thin has long since reached the point of no real additional benefit -- by the time we'd reached the iphone 4 at 0.37 there really wasn't much point to going thinner.
And I'm not suggesting the new iphone X be 0.44mm thick. I am arguing that had it been 0.35 with more battery etc it would have sold just as well. Nobody really cares about those 5/100ths of an inch.
Do you know what would take actual courage?
You're whining that Apple, the company that has perfected design elegance and supply chain optimization on their way to becoming the largest IT company in the world by narrowing it's offer down to just a few well designed, clearly differentiated models should change their corporate DNA to make a tiny fraction of the market happier. You've got market studies that prove you're justified? Ah, no, _Apple_ has market studies and real life results that have proven accurate, you just have your own contrary unsupported opinion.
Not trying to perpetually one up themselves and samsung each generation to be thinnest at any cost.
The pixel 2 is thinner than the S8+ and as thin as the iphone. IF the market just wanted the thinnest phone, the pixel 2 would be usurping the S8's position at the top of the android hierarchy, but its not. Its still in distant 2nd because consumers care far more about brand than thickness.
Apple could make a 0.35" thick phone and it would still sell brilliantly because it's still an Apple.
While Apple has been known to take some inspiration from Samsung (larger phones in particular) Apple's reference is not other makers but themselves. Thus Apple's one upmanship of it's successive phones must be judged by whether each successive iPhone sells better than the last one. Sorry, Apple has been right for 10 years...
That subsequently Samsung's reference is Apple has been proven in court but if you want to complain that Samsung is wrong to ape Apple, you're going to have to do so elsewhere or in any case with someone else.
Newsflash: Apple already replaces defective batteries for free.
Apple guarantees their iPhone batteries to 80% of charge after 500 charges or 1-2 years (depending on the country) and replaces them for free when they do not. When Apple has discovered that the battery supplier has not met the required level of performance for a batch of batteries they replace them for free as they did for the 6s recall.
Now what to do about older out of spec batteries? Apple's patch avoids spontaneous shutdowns.
Tell us, do you also go whining to your gas station complaining that they "should" give you free gas because you've used up what you bought? To your grocer for free milk? Toothpaste? Toilet paper?
Look at the benchmarks, they go from clustering at 2500 to clusters at 2200, 1700, 1400 and 1000. Do you really consider a 60% performance penalty a fix? The users on the bottom end of that spectrum will feel the difference.
This is not Apple doing something wonderful for the customer, this is Apple deciding to protect their bottom line and not replacing batteries or be subject a class action suit for the flawed design or manufacturing process.
I read the benchmarks before I began posting to this subject. Had you been less lazy you would not have asked that question because I answered it in the very first post of this thread: "It is preferable to have a slower iPhone than it is to have it rebooting. If the slowdown is an issue, replace the battery for $75 and the performance will be back to normal."
This is Apple giving their clients a slower but better experience by NOT allowing the devices to reboot when the battery is unable to deliver enough and the alternative is spontaneously rebooting.
Lawyers attempting to cash in on a payday file class actions against deep pocketed targets actions all the time but most fizzle.
Given that the degradation over time is present on _all_ LI-ION phones you're claiming that spontaneous reboots/shutdowns are preferable.
While battery degradation is normal, spontaneous reboots are not and have only been occurring on a couple devices. And no, I'm claiming that manufacturers need to engineer them properly or they need to supply free battery replacements for the lifetime of the devices.
Pray google for spontaneous shutdown battery or reboot plus samsung or android or HTC or huawei or nexus or... Then explain how the problems are that are present on non-apple devices is apple's fault.
Apple is merely the first to implement a fix.
All the haters and their followers that are so quick to criticize apple whether or not it is a major issue are yet again attempting to make mountains out of molehills.
Bigger also makes making launchers reusable much easier. Even with FH, the weight penalties for making the second falcon stage reusable were determined to be difficult to overcome.
Which is why Space-X has decided to develop and migrate all their launches from F9 to BFR much as they abandoned F1 once it had served it's purpose. BFR will be much larger than F9 but also 100% reusable.
"More than five million cubic kilometers of ice have been identified at or near the surface of modern Mars, enough to cover the whole planet to a depth of 35 meters"
Given that the degradation over time is present on _all_ LI-ION phones you're claiming that spontaneous reboots/shutdowns are preferable.
Sure bat-viilain, sure,
Again I'd rather have a slightly slower phone when performing intensive CPU tasks than one that reboots. People trained my Microsoft to find spontaneous reboots a normal part of life are free to feel otherwise.
They're not the same tech. FaceID uses active scanning to construct a 3D map. Windows Hello matches flat pictures - mostly in IR but can add regular camera info to make it harder to spoof. The problem is that it fails back to the easily spoofable IR if the other camera is blocked. I've also read that Windows hello can use 3D cameras but other than for fewer and fewer Xbox-1s people don't have them on their Windows Hello devices.
As for the claim that Windows Hello is able to distinguish between identical twins (subtext FaceID doesn't), six samples do not a rule make. FaceID distinguishes between identical twins even better but exceptions _have_ been found (also with children of registered adults). Until someone takes the time to test FaceID and Windows Hello on a _Large_ sample size all we have is conjecture.
Then you get the version you uploaded, same as the Amazon service. Upgrading poorly ripped 128kbit MP3s to clean 256kbit AAC isn't part of the service, it's a side effect of Apple optimizing the amount data they need to store everyone's music on iTunes Match. It's a nice freebie for those with lots of old poorly ripped music but is not guaranteed to work, even with lossless rips.
Unmatched songs are uploaded to iCloud as-is, Amazon MP3 locker didn't perform _any_ way to upgrade your old songs to higher versions, nor did you propose a service that does so better than iTunes Match.
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If you're going to continue posting impossible deductions from insufficient data, I'm going to continue replying telling you that you that you are wrong.
When reading "Anonymous sources say that someone living on JoeyRox's street has been condemned as a sex offender", one cannot deduce that JoeyRox is the pervert. You, JoeyRox, may well be a perv but that is not the point, nor is it that it came from an anonymous source, it is that here is insufficient data to identify which individual is the perv that was condemned.
A source saying that an Apple supplier has reduced production != Apple has reduced production on the iPhone X.
Anonymous sources say that you enjoy torturing puppies & kittens.
No major "journalistic outfit" [sic] uses anonymous sources without any proven reliability to determine the relative sales of iPhones nor cal thay as I already pointed out.
Anonymous sources say that you have been seen sexually abusing small children.
There is a reason why anonymous sources are not used when one wants to have any semblance of reliability - something that continues to fly way over your head
Do you actually have a point or do you think that your overwork snark is funny?
Snark for snark: The ghost of Michael Dell says that Apple should just shut down _years_ ago and redistributed what little value they had left to their shareholders.
Woosh. Absent any detail on _which_ suppliers and _which_ parts are seeing lower orders (which is NOT public knowledge it is not possible to determine which iPhone model is impacted.
The habitual Apple doomsayers are claiming with zero proof that iPhone X sales are below expectation. Even if that iPhone sales are down, nobody but Apple knows how it is spread over their (currently uncharacteristically large) number of iPhone models. Apple currently sells the X, the 8+ the 8, the 7+, the 7, the 6+, the 6 and the SE. So who's to say which model production is below expectations?
http://bgr.com/2017/12/26/ipho...
Oh, so they're "hiding" them are they, so, when in 02/17 Apple said [techcrunch.com] that maximum power draws were causing shutdowns and that they were using power management to avoid them, that was their way of "hiding" this.
Did they tell the users they were negatively impacting their phone? No
Snort, yeah because Apple uses pixie dust to magically avoid shutdowns. No, Virginia, it's not.
When Apple says "sudden spikes of activity to the maximum power draw could cause older batteries, which had some mileage on them, to deliver power in an uneven manner, which would cause an emergency shutdown" the _only_ way to do so is to throttle the CPU during periods of low battery. That _you_ are unable to see that 1+1=2 does not mean that others are unable to do so.
Naaah, this is you going to your grocer whining that the new chocolate milk recipe you bought 4 months ago has gone bad, that he only came out with the new recipe to hide your ability to determine that it had gone bad and that you deserve to get all the free milk you want. In fact it you never even bought any of that brand's milk you're just arguing that everyone deserves free milk -- because milk goes bad.
No its more like the milk goes sour before the expiration date because the store failed to refrigerate it, or the store changes the expiration on meat (which is illegal).
So now you are claiming that Apple ages it's batteries before selling them?!?! And you have proof of this extraordinary claim? You've clearly started on the eggnog already.
Apple already replaces batteries that are out of spec but within warranty for free. So you _are_ whining that you deserve free milk by brandishing months old spoiled milk cartons saying that "Apple made the milk spoil" without any proof.
Oh, so they're "hiding" them are they, so, when in 02/17 Apple said that maximum power draws were causing shutdowns and that they were using power management to avoid them, that was their way of "hiding" this.
Now what to do about older out of spec batteries? Apple's patch avoids spontaneous shutdowns.
Again, this is not normal for smart phones, its happening to a handful of manufacturers including Apple who should step up and accept responsibility. Apple is not accepting responsibility, they're fucking over users
And AGAIN, I never said that out of spec batteries are "normal", but as anyone with a brain realizes, they DO occur more and more as the battery ages. And AGAIN, if you have an out of spec battery within warranty period, Apple ALREADY replaces the battery for free.
Tell us, do you also go whining to your gas station complaining that they "should" give you free gas because you've used up what you bought? To your grocer for free milk? Toothpaste? Toilet paper?
Again, straw man argument. If those companies start selling you a defective product then yes they should replace it,
Naaah, this is you going to your grocer whining that the new chocolate milk recipe you bought 4 months ago has gone bad, that he only came out with the new recipe to hide your ability to determine that it had gone bad and that you deserve to get all the free milk you want. In fact it you never even bought any of that brand's milk you're just arguing that everyone deserves free milk -- because milk goes bad.
It has been estimated that the earth is naturally bombarded by 37000-78000 _tons_ of meteorites a year. a few hundreds/thousands of sats will not make a noticeable difference.
http://curious.astro.cornell.e...
You keep baselessly opining that that "Nobody cares how much thinner the new iphone X is" when thicker phones keep tanking in the marketplace.
One of the top selling phones worldwide, the Moto X is 0.44mm thick, only 0.02mm thinner than the original iphone. Hardly tanking. But that's not really the point either.
The last time Motorola figured in the top 10 mobile phone manufacturers was in 2012 with 1.2% and they have since sunk beneath notice, so that clearly is the point. Kindly give your references for this "top selling phones worldwide" -- and not just Moto promotional stuff either, they're happy just selling a few million phones a year nowadays so +50% is meaningless without comparisons to the real best sellers.
While I said the original iphone was fine, I am not suggesting that everyone wants a 0.44mm slab; even the original iphone wasn't a 0.44mm slab. The design made it feel like less.
I am suggesting that, the progression of thin has long since reached the point of no real additional benefit -- by the time we'd reached the iphone 4 at 0.37 there really wasn't much point to going thinner.
And I'm not suggesting the new iphone X be 0.44mm thick. I am arguing that had it been 0.35 with more battery etc it would have sold just as well. Nobody really cares about those 5/100ths of an inch.
Do you know what would take actual courage?
You're whining that Apple, the company that has perfected design elegance and supply chain optimization on their way to becoming the largest IT company in the world by narrowing it's offer down to just a few well designed, clearly differentiated models should change their corporate DNA to make a tiny fraction of the market happier. You've got market studies that prove you're justified? Ah, no, _Apple_ has market studies and real life results that have proven accurate, you just have your own contrary unsupported opinion.
Not trying to perpetually one up themselves and samsung each generation to be thinnest at any cost.
The pixel 2 is thinner than the S8+ and as thin as the iphone. IF the market just wanted the thinnest phone, the pixel 2 would be usurping the S8's position at the top of the android hierarchy, but its not. Its still in distant 2nd because consumers care far more about brand than thickness.
Apple could make a 0.35" thick phone and it would still sell brilliantly because it's still an Apple.
While Apple has been known to take some inspiration from Samsung (larger phones in particular) Apple's reference is not other makers but themselves. Thus Apple's one upmanship of it's successive phones must be judged by whether each successive iPhone sells better than the last one. Sorry, Apple has been right for 10 years...
That subsequently Samsung's reference is Apple has been proven in court but if you want to complain that Samsung is wrong to ape Apple, you're going to have to do so elsewhere or in any case with someone else.
Newsflash: Apple already replaces defective batteries for free.
Apple guarantees their iPhone batteries to 80% of charge after 500 charges or 1-2 years (depending on the country) and replaces them for free when they do not. When Apple has discovered that the battery supplier has not met the required level of performance for a batch of batteries they replace them for free as they did for the 6s recall.
Now what to do about older out of spec batteries? Apple's patch avoids spontaneous shutdowns.
Tell us, do you also go whining to your gas station complaining that they "should" give you free gas because you've used up what you bought? To your grocer for free milk? Toothpaste? Toilet paper?
Look at the benchmarks, they go from clustering at 2500 to clusters at 2200, 1700, 1400 and 1000. Do you really consider a 60% performance penalty a fix? The users on the bottom end of that spectrum will feel the difference.
This is not Apple doing something wonderful for the customer, this is Apple deciding to protect their bottom line and not replacing batteries or be subject a class action suit for the flawed design or manufacturing process.
I read the benchmarks before I began posting to this subject. Had you been less lazy you would not have asked that question because I answered it in the very first post of this thread: "It is preferable to have a slower iPhone than it is to have it rebooting. If the slowdown is an issue, replace the battery for $75 and the performance will be back to normal."
This is Apple giving their clients a slower but better experience by NOT allowing the devices to reboot when the battery is unable to deliver enough and the alternative is spontaneously rebooting.
Lawyers attempting to cash in on a payday file class actions against deep pocketed targets actions all the time but most fizzle.
Ooooh... a wordpress theme! Wow! Knowing that really makes me think he could code a secure application on Android without screwing it up!
Isn't HERO FOR ALL PEOPLES == Hero of the Soviet Union?
If you install this, the bad guys already have control of your phone and your laptop
No! It cannot be! The app is signed by Snowden's benevolent host: Putin!
Given that the degradation over time is present on _all_ LI-ION phones you're claiming that spontaneous reboots/shutdowns are preferable.
While battery degradation is normal, spontaneous reboots are not and have only been occurring on a couple devices. And no, I'm claiming that manufacturers need to engineer them properly or they need to supply free battery replacements for the lifetime of the devices.
Pray google for spontaneous shutdown battery or reboot plus samsung or android or HTC or huawei or nexus or ...
Then explain how the problems are that are present on non-apple devices is apple's fault.
Apple is merely the first to implement a fix.
All the haters and their followers that are so quick to criticize apple whether or not it is a major issue are yet again attempting to make mountains out of molehills.
That was my attempt at British humour through understatement...
It's on desktops that iTunes is pitiful though. On mobile devices it's just poor.
Bigger also makes making launchers reusable much easier. Even with FH, the weight penalties for making the second falcon stage reusable were determined to be difficult to overcome.
Which is why Space-X has decided to develop and migrate all their launches from F9 to BFR much as they abandoned F1 once it had served it's purpose. BFR will be much larger than F9 but also 100% reusable.
Is that why no-one ever built a canal in Egypt or Panama? Cause I always thought that they'd be a good idea...
What water issue?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"More than five million cubic kilometers of ice have been identified at or near the surface of modern Mars, enough to cover the whole planet to a depth of 35 meters"
Just for you: http://bfy.tw/FhXb
Given that the degradation over time is present on _all_ LI-ION phones you're claiming that spontaneous reboots/shutdowns are preferable.
Sure bat-viilain, sure,
Again I'd rather have a slightly slower phone when performing intensive CPU tasks than one that reboots. People trained my Microsoft to find spontaneous reboots a normal part of life are free to feel otherwise.
They're not the same tech. FaceID uses active scanning to construct a 3D map. Windows Hello matches flat pictures - mostly in IR but can add regular camera info to make it harder to spoof. The problem is that it fails back to the easily spoofable IR if the other camera is blocked. I've also read that Windows hello can use 3D cameras but other than for fewer and fewer Xbox-1s people don't have them on their Windows Hello devices.
As for the claim that Windows Hello is able to distinguish between identical twins (subtext FaceID doesn't), six samples do not a rule make. FaceID distinguishes between identical twins even better but exceptions _have_ been found (also with children of registered adults). Until someone takes the time to test FaceID and Windows Hello on a _Large_ sample size all we have is conjecture.
Then you get the version you uploaded, same as the Amazon service. Upgrading poorly ripped 128kbit MP3s to clean 256kbit AAC isn't part of the service, it's a side effect of Apple optimizing the amount data they need to store everyone's music on iTunes Match. It's a nice freebie for those with lots of old poorly ripped music but is not guaranteed to work, even with lossless rips.
Unmatched songs are uploaded to iCloud as-is, Amazon MP3 locker didn't perform _any_ way to upgrade your old songs to higher versions, nor did you propose a service that does so better than iTunes Match.
What"s your point?