You're just displaying your ignorance of the law. That entrapment is a legal defense does not magically make what happened to these idiots entrapment. By the definition used by the courts (and the issue was addressed, these idiots were not entrapped. I get the point that you feel the legal definition of entrapment should cover their cases but we the majority do not agree.
No. You do not get to redefine words like entrapment to make them fit whatever your position is. By the definition used by the courts, they were not entrapped so you have no point.
At which point the FBI collects it's money & looks deep into your life to find something illegal you did but which would generally be ignored. You first...
At no point did the idiot attempt to report this illicit activity to anyone to attempt to save lives. This attempted whitewash does not get far enough to blame anyone else for his situation.
Had the groups of people decided to not attempt to harm others, there would have been no crime. Yes, the FBI presented them with an opportunity but the idiots in question chose to attempt to harm others. That is why the majority believes that they deserve prison.
Being a Patsy does not necessarily imply being an idiot, just that the target was outwitted & not necessarily because the patsy is dumber. Unless you have always been able to figure out a magician's tricks, you too have been a patsy yet I'm sure you do not consider yourself to be dumber than those magicians....
As long as these idiots stay within the limits of the law there's no problem. Once they take the decision to harm others it makes no difference whether they were approached by AQ or the FBI or any other alphabet soup: Deciding to harm others damns them in my & in large part societies eyes. Yes, they are the low hanging fruit but by catching them, I & most of the USA believe that makes AQ's task in recruiting local manpower harder & is thus a "good" thing.
Nothing sends a clearer message to those contemplating extreme acts that it is unacceptable than catching them & putting them in prison. You may not agree, but you are in a small minority.
You're certainly right & that will mean that there will still be a good reason to use NoScript. However that doesn't mean that what Mozilla is planning still won't be a good thing for the less security consious.
Not the guy I was referring to. Horst is not using a flying wing & is not piloting his plane using real-time video sent back over a radio link to a head-mounted display like the guy I was referring to. There was some problem with the Head mounted display as he won them in a competition but the guy giving out prizes refused to give him his prize for some time
The guy I was referring to had flight times over 40 min, speeds approaching 100km & could pilot somewhat out of line of sight.using the radiop video link. His videos were closer to those done by basejumpers that what I saw of Horst's.
There was a discussion that came up on/. about a year ago when a guy from Switzerland took his flying wing that sent back a "pilot's eye view" back. He had some very impressive videos that showed his wing flying nap of the earth around the Alps & even a trip to NYC buzzing around the Statue of Liberty (& NOT getting hassled for it which surprised many).
One thing that came up is that there are indeed limitations on Line of Sight just about everywhere & France even outlaws piloting using pilot's eye view without a pilot's license (no surprise there - In France, you pretty much need a license to do anything).
s/obviously/obscurely/ When the tongue is so far up the cheek that one wonders just which cheek is closest you cannot assume that you will be understood...
I dont have a reading comprehension problem but you visibly have a problem making your point without falling into contradictions. The financial meltdown has tought those of us that were paying attention that the FDIC will not save you when a bank robosigns your home into foreclosure nor will it save you from a governmental abuse of power.
Oh so, you think it's laws that make a difference? Well then, when your bank is held responsible for breaking the laws of another country like say divulging information that says MY information is not to be divulged to people outside the EU, the EU will by your standards be justified in seizing your bank's (& by extension your) assets.
Mega* says it was behaving by NZ's laws. Either the seizures are illegal or your assets are liable for crimes committed by bank officers in other countries. Other positions are ether hypocritical or that you believe that bullying is justified.
By the same yardstick, if the bank holding your mortgage has been used to transfer drug money the USG can seize all it's accounts & kick you out of your home while proceedings are undergoing against the bank officers that were abetting the drug runners?
No. Hell NO!
I never used Mega* directly (got some stuff from friends who did though) as I always assumed that something would come along to squash it However, locking the legit users out amounts to illegal seizure in my book.
Not when the system is only functional to missiles coming from the southeast & the russians already have enough assets to the northeast to bake most of Europe/North America.
Middle-eastern dictators yell "death to Israel, death to America" so much so that it's the most tired, worn-out cliche in the world. The Iranian people don't even believe it any more.
The Iranian population as a whole doesn't believe it anymore. The minority that controls their government & by extension most of their armed forces does. This is what makes a nuclear armed Iran a danger to most of the countries in the middle east.
No, he's implying that Russia is against a minor ABM shield defending against Iran because Iran buys lots of russian armament, much like Russia is currently blocking UN resolutions against Syria because they buy Russian as well. The only one misreading that into generic "small nations" is you.
Kent State?!?! Why not use Jericho in the old testament as an example? They're roughly as relevant to how todays troops would react to orders telling them to level a US city to eliminate insurgents.
Articles have always have had some on/. it's why many of us set our preferences to avoid seeing articles authorized by certain editors. What we are regretting is that Taco enjoyed technology & brought a positive outlook which we appreciated & his departure has made/. much less fun.
You're just displaying your ignorance of the law. That entrapment is a legal defense does not magically make what happened to these idiots entrapment. By the definition used by the courts (and the issue was addressed, these idiots were not entrapped. I get the point that you feel the legal definition of entrapment should cover their cases but we the majority do not agree.
No. You do not get to redefine words like entrapment to make them fit whatever your position is. By the definition used by the courts, they were not entrapped so you have no point.
At which point the FBI collects it's money & looks deep into your life to find something illegal you did but which would generally be ignored. You first...
At no point did the idiot attempt to report this illicit activity to anyone to attempt to save lives. This attempted whitewash does not get far enough to blame anyone else for his situation.
Had the groups of people decided to not attempt to harm others, there would have been no crime. Yes, the FBI presented them with an opportunity but the idiots in question chose to attempt to harm others. That is why the majority believes that they deserve prison.
Being a Patsy does not necessarily imply being an idiot, just that the target was outwitted & not necessarily because the patsy is dumber. Unless you have always been able to figure out a magician's tricks, you too have been a patsy yet I'm sure you do not consider yourself to be dumber than those magicians....
As long as these idiots stay within the limits of the law there's no problem. Once they take the decision to harm others it makes no difference whether they were approached by AQ or the FBI or any other alphabet soup: Deciding to harm others damns them in my & in large part societies eyes. Yes, they are the low hanging fruit but by catching them, I & most of the USA believe that makes AQ's task in recruiting local manpower harder & is thus a "good" thing.
Nothing sends a clearer message to those contemplating extreme acts that it is unacceptable than catching them & putting them in prison. You may not agree, but you are in a small minority.
As the sanding goes: there are lies, damn lies & statistics.
Your vaunted numbers are a lie as others have pointed out and are thus meaningless
You're certainly right & that will mean that there will still be a good reason to use NoScript. However that doesn't mean that what Mozilla is planning still won't be a good thing for the less security consious.
Yeah those of us who care about security have been using NoScript for years but this will push the ignorant masses into better security.
I've been using NoScript for years. You whitelist the trusted sites where you need it & the others are just an occasional click.
Heh, the riteweave flying wings approach 200Km/h not the measly 100 I said...
Not the guy I was referring to. Horst is not using a flying wing & is not piloting his plane using real-time video sent back over a radio link to a head-mounted display like the guy I was referring to. There was some problem with the Head mounted display as he won them in a competition but the guy giving out prizes refused to give him his prize for some time
The guy I was referring to had flight times over 40 min, speeds approaching 100km & could pilot somewhat out of line of sight.using the radiop video link. His videos were closer to those done by basejumpers that what I saw of Horst's.
I bookmarked a page way back & IIRC the guy doing all this was Trappy from Austria, not Switzerland. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1279141&page=11
There was a discussion that came up on /. about a year ago when a guy from Switzerland took his flying wing that sent back a "pilot's eye view" back. He had some very impressive videos that showed his wing flying nap of the earth around the Alps & even a trip to NYC buzzing around the Statue of Liberty (& NOT getting hassled for it which surprised many).
One thing that came up is that there are indeed limitations on Line of Sight just about everywhere & France even outlaws piloting using pilot's eye view without a pilot's license (no surprise there - In France, you pretty much need a license to do anything).
s/obviously/obscurely/
When the tongue is so far up the cheek that one wonders just which cheek is closest you cannot assume that you will be understood...
Thanks for the LOL, only someone completely ignorant of the history of cryptology could state that pen/paper have never been broken.
I dont have a reading comprehension problem but you visibly have a problem making your point without falling into contradictions. The financial meltdown has tought those of us that were paying attention that the FDIC will not save you when a bank robosigns your home into foreclosure nor will it save you from a governmental abuse of power.
Oh so, you think it's laws that make a difference? Well then, when your bank is held responsible for breaking the laws of another country like say divulging information that says MY information is not to be divulged to people outside the EU, the EU will by your standards be justified in seizing your bank's (& by extension your) assets.
Mega* says it was behaving by NZ's laws. Either the seizures are illegal or your assets are liable for crimes committed by bank officers in other countries. Other positions are ether hypocritical or that you believe that bullying is justified.
By the same yardstick, if the bank holding your mortgage has been used to transfer drug money the USG can seize all it's accounts & kick you out of your home while proceedings are undergoing against the bank officers that were abetting the drug runners?
No. Hell NO!
I never used Mega* directly (got some stuff from friends who did though) as I always assumed that something would come along to squash it However, locking the legit users out amounts to illegal seizure in my book.
Not when the system is only functional to missiles coming from the southeast & the russians already have enough assets to the northeast to bake most of Europe/North America.
Middle-eastern dictators yell "death to Israel, death to America" so much so that it's the most tired, worn-out cliche in the world. The Iranian people don't even believe it any more.
The Iranian population as a whole doesn't believe it anymore. The minority that controls their government & by extension most of their armed forces does. This is what makes a nuclear armed Iran a danger to most of the countries in the middle east.
No, he's implying that Russia is against a minor ABM shield defending against Iran because Iran buys lots of russian armament, much like Russia is currently blocking UN resolutions against Syria because they buy Russian as well. The only one misreading that into generic "small nations" is you.
Kent State?!?! Why not use Jericho in the old testament as an example? They're roughly as relevant to how todays troops would react to orders telling them to level a US city to eliminate insurgents.
You cannot accuse only one side as you did without appearing biased. Maybe you're not, but it's how you made yourself appear.
Articles have always have had some on /. it's why many of us set our preferences to avoid seeing articles authorized by certain editors. What we are regretting is that Taco enjoyed technology & brought a positive outlook which we appreciated & his departure has made /. much less fun.