Don't understand. Are MS-DOS machines considered computers or not?
If you are interested in talking about "mother may I" computers, are windows computers in a domain, managed by GPO and software management services, considered computers?
Thank you for giving us the Netflix perspective. Counter arguments:
1) Residential broadband networks were never engineered as video delivery systems.
Please stop talking out of your ass. With Comcast, it has been demonstrated that Comcast Residential account has plenty of bandwidth. The choke point was the interconnect between comcast and level 3. Level 3 was willing to pay for the capital improvements - in fact, in the peering hotel, they could see the other side had open slots in the chassis.
2) Related to the last point above, moving bits doesn't directly cost the ISP money but sustained higher bitrates do require a larger CapEx investment. Caps are a blunt force instrument that should be done away with in favor of demand or 95th percentile billing, IMHO.
And Level 3, Cogent, etc are willing to foot that cost. Which isn't Comcast, etc taking them up on that offer?
4) Settlement free peering (which is essentially what Netflix is demanding) has historically only been offered in instances where the traffic to be exchanged is roughly equal. If you're relying on me to deliver your traffic for you then you pay me. It has been this way since the beginning of the commercial internet. This ecosystem literally built the internet as we know it. If you want to blow it up the onus is on you to explain why your system is better.
Netflix isn't an ISP. They shouldn't be in the peering business. Their ISP is an ISP *AND* is in the peering business. Keeping that straight would be useful in any discussion.
You are right, I misspoke - Debian uses Gnome as default. Which changes nothing about the discussion - systemd is becoming mandatory, in essence, even if, in theory, it is possible to use other inits.
Unfortunately, systemd has become mandatory because of Gnome. Since Debian is based on Gnome - guess what, systemd is now default, and because of the way systemd is written, it basically kills anything else that it tries to replace.
Since when does init needs things like a web server bundled in?!?!
*NO* You were paying $20/month for the phone line. As modems increased in speed, from 300 baud, to 2400 baud to 14.4k to 56k, *YOU DID NOT PAY MORE FOR THE PHONE LINE*
Most ISPs also did not charge a differential between a 56k modem and a 14.4k modem or a 2400 baud modem.
Since it's typically the kernel developers who write these device drivers, I'm not sure why you would be so worried for them. I mean, it's the kernel developers who are ripping this out.
What nonsense. Name me one kernel module you have loaded. OpenBSD discourages rolling your own kernels and I'm unaware of 3rd party modules. If you are a true fan, you should know that. Why would you claim to be a fan, when you obviously don't use it?
Apple only offers a limited set of configuration, and if it meets what your needs are, they are price competitive. However, there're a bunch of morons out there who keep comparing a low end netbook to a macbook pro or macbook air, and claiming it's the same.
It is really hard to take these people seriously...
It is amortized over the large number of iPhones and iPads sold. Lets say they have 1,000 people dedicated solely to the ARM cpu/gpu. At $200,000 per person per year. They sell 150 million iPhones + iPads a year (more, but I rounded over for easier calculation).
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Is that like how GNOME got started, because people didn't like the qt license? Bleh.
And iwj's original comparison of systemd and upstart:
https://lists.debian.org/debia...
iwj's rebuttal to rra's write up:
https://lists.debian.org/debia...
Don't understand. Are MS-DOS machines considered computers or not?
If you are interested in talking about "mother may I" computers, are windows computers in a domain, managed by GPO and software management services, considered computers?
Therefore all those old MS-DOS machines aren't computers, because they don't have split screen multi tasking, right?
Are tablets and smartphones considered computers?
Uh, do you not read slashdot?
http://tech.slashdot.org/story...
Thank you for giving us the Netflix perspective. Counter arguments:
1) Residential broadband networks were never engineered as video delivery systems.
Please stop talking out of your ass. With Comcast, it has been demonstrated that Comcast Residential account has plenty of bandwidth.
The choke point was the interconnect between comcast and level 3. Level 3 was willing to pay for the capital improvements - in fact, in the peering hotel, they could see the other side had open slots in the chassis.
2) Related to the last point above, moving bits doesn't directly cost the ISP money but sustained higher bitrates do require a larger CapEx investment. Caps are a blunt force instrument that should be done away with in favor of demand or 95th percentile billing, IMHO.
And Level 3, Cogent, etc are willing to foot that cost. Which isn't Comcast, etc taking them up on that offer?
4) Settlement free peering (which is essentially what Netflix is demanding) has historically only been offered in instances where the traffic to be exchanged is roughly equal. If you're relying on me to deliver your traffic for you then you pay me. It has been this way since the beginning of the commercial internet. This ecosystem literally built the internet as we know it. If you want to blow it up the onus is on you to explain why your system is better.
Netflix isn't an ISP. They shouldn't be in the peering business. Their ISP is an ISP *AND* is in the peering business. Keeping that straight would be useful in any discussion.
You are right, I misspoke - Debian uses Gnome as default. Which changes nothing about the discussion - systemd is becoming mandatory, in essence, even if, in theory, it is possible to use other inits.
Unfortunately, systemd has become mandatory because of Gnome. Since Debian is based on Gnome - guess what, systemd is now default, and because of the way systemd is written, it basically kills anything else that it tries to replace.
Since when does init needs things like a web server bundled in?!?!
You are missing OP's point, which is type II diabetes is typically a lifestyle/choice disease. Moderation as in, moderate eating, exercise, etc.
However, OP missed something from the article, this isn't type II, but type I diabetes!
A government small enough to be a Libertarian wet dream
Both of you say "regulation" and yet, both of you mean different things. Isn't ideas and language a wonderful thing?
*NO* You were paying $20/month for the phone line. As modems increased in speed, from 300 baud, to 2400 baud to 14.4k to 56k, *YOU DID NOT PAY MORE FOR THE PHONE LINE*
Most ISPs also did not charge a differential between a 56k modem and a 14.4k modem or a 2400 baud modem.
For someone who doesn't care about OpenBSD, you sure sound off a lot on it.
Are you shitting me? You think the various hardware vendors actually write drivers for OpenBSD? *ARE YOU SHITTING ME?*
Seriously?
Since it's typically the kernel developers who write these device drivers, I'm not sure why you would be so worried for them. I mean, it's the kernel developers who are ripping this out.
Am I missing something here?
What nonsense. Name me one kernel module you have loaded. OpenBSD discourages rolling your own kernels and I'm unaware of 3rd party modules. If you are a true fan, you should know that. Why would you claim to be a fan, when you obviously don't use it?
bloody nonsense. I've been using OpenBSD for nearly 20 years and never had to recompile the kernel to use anything in ports.
You don't know how to call a script from inside a script? Also - my openbsd box seems to have an interesting number of rc.d scripts.
$ uname -sr /etc/rc.d ....
OpenBSD 5.2
$ ls
amd apmd bgpd bootparamd cron ddclient dhcpd dhcrelay dnsmasq
76 scripts in total.
Why is it that the individual words seem to make sense, but when reading them together, it's all nonsense?
Do you normally just ramble on all over the place in real life as well?
They had in the past, but they really really didn't like it. So I guess they finally fixe it.
Apple only offers a limited set of configuration, and if it meets what your needs are, they are price competitive. However, there're a bunch of morons out there who keep comparing a low end netbook to a macbook pro or macbook air, and claiming it's the same.
It is really hard to take these people seriously...
Don't use it. Very simple, and no angst involved. For those of us who do want to use it, why does it matter to you?
It is amortized over the large number of iPhones and iPads sold. Lets say they have 1,000 people dedicated solely to the ARM cpu/gpu. At $200,000 per person per year. They sell 150 million iPhones + iPads a year (more, but I rounded over for easier calculation).
1,000 * 200,000 / 150,000,000 = $1.33
So, $21.33.