So funny that Mac and iOS users are so much happier with their systems (even in Korea, where iPhone and iPad took first place in customer satisfaction away from Samsung), but the haters who don't use it, my god, it's like a jealous ex-lover. They cannot stop telling you how much your current lover sucks, even though you're happy with it.
Get over it. Be happy with your choice, and move on, rather than keeping on and harping and bitching about other people's choices.
The fact that he is only abusive to stupid ideas, and very rarely, stupid people, is a good thing. Not suffering fools or stupidity is a good way to move the quality of the kernel forward.
What is this "spare pixels"? You mean they actually make camera sensors where you don't get to use all the elements so that you can have some hot spare pixels?
"first amazon.com price off a duck duck go search" is cherry picking? Actually it was the first contract free price, but who cares.
Your original claim was, "The Iphone 5 is older and will never drop in price."
And when I show that you are wrong, you now claim it does drop in price but is a stock dump. Changing both your arguments and your stance. Very very shrewd debating methods. So, are you now rebutting your own claims as well then? Do you like to look in the mirror and debate yourself every morning too?
As for your claim "In 5 years, the price of a current generation Iphone has never dropped." - AND YOUR POINT IS? You *DO* realize that the price of the current generation of a Samsung Galaxy series phone has gone up and up and up during introduction? So SAMSUNG SUCKS NOW? What kind of a fucking moron are you?
Since Apple has very tight inventory controls, they don't need to dump stock. The fact that people willingly buy a one year old phone for $100 off the price it came out at shows that people value that phone.
And I do have a Nexus 4. I tried it out. It's a decent phone. I much prefer the iPhone.
Another person who cannot tell the difference between TOTAL NET PROFIT that company A makes is overwhelmingly larger than the TOTAL NET PROFIT that company S makes.
very good point, though it makes it harder to write the app. And god help you if you need permissions that are not in v1.5. I'm not sure if there's a way around that.
So, me using the first amazon link off a duckduck go search for samsung s4 full price is fanboyism, and you picking up some random aussie link is not. Got it.
And of course, your unsubstantiated claim that Apple will never drop the price on the iPhone 5 is full of shit, and anyone with half a brain can see that the price does drop, just as it did for the iPhone 4S, the iPhone 4, the iPhone 3GS, etc.
But go on, tell me more about how correct you are.
There are websites that keep archives of older versions of software. One of them may be of some use, but you'll have to learn how to install it from your computer (delete the actual file from your hard drive, replace it with the older archived version, let iTunes sync and install the older archived version to your iPod, done).
Pain in the ass, but possible, if you had already owned that app.
You don't understand what is fragmentation. In context of the Android discussion, it's not about what kind of bloatware was installed or not installed, required, or not required. It's about the different versions of Android in use. If you want to target your app at 1/3 of the Android market, you can write towards Android v4.0.
If you want to target your app towards 3/4 of the market, you write towards Android v2.2. If you want to hit higher percentages of the market, you have to go down to earlier versions of Android.
Obviously later versions of Android have features and functionalities you can leverage, improved security, etc. Earlier versions of Android means you have to write those yourself, or just not use that feature.
Compare this to iOS. If you want to hit 99% of the iPhones on the market, you write towards iOS 6.0.
What in the world are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing? Also, do you understand that the Nexus phones are sold without profit, and even support costs built in? Google themselves have said that multiple times. It's the cost of hardware, and that is it. Have a think about it. Why would someone essentially do what an a "dump" of the Nexus hardware?
You are one of those who believed that those dotbomb companies were going to make shitloads of money, when they were losing money on a per unit basis, but was going to make it up on volume, right?
There is a difference between revenue and profit. Try not to let that make your brain explode.
I swear the android fanbois grow stupider by the minute.
Why do you think a developer would target 4.2 when he could get a bigger market if he targets 1.5?
So what are the main reasons he would *NOT* target 1.5? If all a developer has to do is target 1.5, then why are all the android fanbois getting a boner whenever a new version comes out?
Please sit and think for a while. There *IS* a fucking difference between 1.5 and 4.2. And the extra functionality is expressed by new APIs which make it simpler for the developer to write stuff, and interoperate with other stuff written to that set of APIs. What havoc would it be if everyone reimplemented their own SSL layer?
If you think really hard, you may finally understand why it's fragmentation.
You mean an Anonymous Coward pulled a number out of his ass? Well, a survey that appeared to pull numbers out of his ass anyway...
Say it ain't so :)
So funny that Mac and iOS users are so much happier with their systems (even in Korea, where iPhone and iPad took first place in customer satisfaction away from Samsung), but the haters who don't use it, my god, it's like a jealous ex-lover. They cannot stop telling you how much your current lover sucks, even though you're happy with it.
Get over it. Be happy with your choice, and move on, rather than keeping on and harping and bitching about other people's choices.
Not for *THIS* community. This is slashdot here we are talking about after all... :P
And isn't there a punishment for lying on DMCA? Someone should enforce that.
The fact that he is only abusive to stupid ideas, and very rarely, stupid people, is a good thing. Not suffering fools or stupidity is a good way to move the quality of the kernel forward.
And how the fuck is the fact that Jobs is dead is relevant to the point at hand? So, since Ballmer is alive, throwing chairs is now good?
I'm curious how your brain works. Or is it fun just to dig that knife in deeper?
What is this "spare pixels"? You mean they actually make camera sensors where you don't get to use all the elements so that you can have some hot spare pixels?
Jesus Christ.
"first amazon.com price off a duck duck go search" is cherry picking? Actually it was the first contract free price, but who cares.
Your original claim was, "The Iphone 5 is older and will never drop in price."
And when I show that you are wrong, you now claim it does drop in price but is a stock dump. Changing both your arguments and your stance. Very very shrewd debating methods. So, are you now rebutting your own claims as well then? Do you like to look in the mirror and debate yourself every morning too?
As for your claim "In 5 years, the price of a current generation Iphone has never dropped." - AND YOUR POINT IS? You *DO* realize that the price of the current generation of a Samsung Galaxy series phone has gone up and up and up during introduction? So SAMSUNG SUCKS NOW? What kind of a fucking moron are you?
Since Apple has very tight inventory controls, they don't need to dump stock. The fact that people willingly buy a one year old phone for $100 off the price it came out at shows that people value that phone.
And I do have a Nexus 4. I tried it out. It's a decent phone. I much prefer the iPhone.
Another person who cannot tell the difference between TOTAL NET PROFIT that company A makes is overwhelmingly larger than the TOTAL NET PROFIT that company S makes.
Not that S isn't catching up, mind you. They are.
Fanboism aside, you realize Samsung's stock price is 2-4 times that of APL? http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/ssnlf
Thank you for proving my point so eloquently.
You do realize that Google has massaged the numbers, right? Go google for it... :)
What did I tell you about using facts and logic on the Internet again?! Do we really have to have that talk again...? :P
very good point, though it makes it harder to write the app. And god help you if you need permissions that are not in v1.5. I'm not sure if there's a way around that.
So, me using the first amazon link off a duckduck go search for samsung s4 full price is fanboyism, and you picking up some random aussie link is not. Got it.
And of course, your unsubstantiated claim that Apple will never drop the price on the iPhone 5 is full of shit, and anyone with half a brain can see that the price does drop, just as it did for the iPhone 4S, the iPhone 4, the iPhone 3GS, etc.
But go on, tell me more about how correct you are.
There are websites that keep archives of older versions of software. One of them may be of some use, but you'll have to learn how to install it from your computer (delete the actual file from your hard drive, replace it with the older archived version, let iTunes sync and install the older archived version to your iPod, done).
Pain in the ass, but possible, if you had already owned that app.
As I understand it, there's over 15,000 Android versions you can target towards. Joy.
You don't understand what is fragmentation. In context of the Android discussion, it's not about what kind of bloatware was installed or not installed, required, or not required. It's about the different versions of Android in use. If you want to target your app at 1/3 of the Android market, you can write towards Android v4.0.
If you want to target your app towards 3/4 of the market, you write towards Android v2.2. If you want to hit higher percentages of the market, you have to go down to earlier versions of Android.
Obviously later versions of Android have features and functionalities you can leverage, improved security, etc. Earlier versions of Android means you have to write those yourself, or just not use that feature.
Compare this to iOS. If you want to hit 99% of the iPhones on the market, you write towards iOS 6.0.
Samsung S4, unlocked price: $699..
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-White-AT/dp/B00CDZU40Q%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-z-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00CDZU40Q
Apple iPhone 5, unlocked price: $649.
http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5
What in the world are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing? Also, do you understand that the Nexus phones are sold without profit, and even support costs built in? Google themselves have said that multiple times. It's the cost of hardware, and that is it. Have a think about it. Why would someone essentially do what an a "dump" of the Nexus hardware?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)
You are one of those who believed that those dotbomb companies were going to make shitloads of money, when they were losing money on a per unit basis, but was going to make it up on volume, right?
There is a difference between revenue and profit. Try not to let that make your brain explode.
I swear the android fanbois grow stupider by the minute.
So close, yet so far.
Why do you think a developer would target 4.2 when he could get a bigger market if he targets 1.5?
So what are the main reasons he would *NOT* target 1.5? If all a developer has to do is target 1.5, then why are all the android fanbois getting a boner whenever a new version comes out?
Please sit and think for a while. There *IS* a fucking difference between 1.5 and 4.2. And the extra functionality is expressed by new APIs which make it simpler for the developer to write stuff, and interoperate with other stuff written to that set of APIs. What havoc would it be if everyone reimplemented their own SSL layer?
If you think really hard, you may finally understand why it's fragmentation.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/5/prweb10703394.htm
Also I believe Samsung is looking at including them on their Windows Mobile phones.
Since Android can be hosted on a non-UNIX system (hello Bluestacks on Windows Phone), I would not consider Android a "Linux GUI".
Are we talking about UI or not? None of the Linux systems you mentioned have a UI, beyond a web interface, other than the Android stuff.
Actually, people are saying that iOS 6 is far better on the 3GS than iOS 5.
You said RedHat. Even redhat should have long term support where they backport security fixes. I know they do.
Or go with something like Debian. Far better. But I understand - "we need support".